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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:30am On Jul 05, 2024
budaatum:
Are you saying all muslims have a doctrine that does not tolerate people with opposing views?

If so, can you kindly explain how Muslims survive in UK where the majority are not Muslims?

Also explain why London would elect a Muslim as Mayor if he has a doctrine of intolerance please.

And explain your understanding of the text below, which is from the Muslim book.
there are other verses they follow. I think you should send them this verse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBGl6S1tWQk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM7fy-GNI6s
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:36am On Jul 05, 2024
budaatum:
More like what was I hoping for. That Farage's party win zero seats.

One of their 2 is a defecting Conservative who i expected to win. I was hoping Farage lost.
Why won't you vote for this guy?

Nigel Farage:
“I was asked the other day, what was I going to do for the black community.
Do you know what I said? Nothing, absolutely nothing.
I couldn’t give a damn if you’re black or white, gay or straight. I really don’t care. You’ll be judged by your character, by your ability by your contribution to society”

He is absolutely RIGHT. You should be judged on merit, not your identity.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:47am On Jul 05, 2024
bemeruca:
you only allow people who share your values.
"You only allow allow people who share your values" to what? Live? Speak? And what do you propose be done to those who don't share your values? Do you shoot them? Put them in gulags and burn them in ovens? Not let them speak?

Go on, tell me what you would do to those who don't share your values please.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:54am On Jul 05, 2024
budaatum:
"You only allow allow people who share your values" to what? Live? Speak? And what do you propose be done to those who don't share your values? Do you shoot them? Put them in gulags and burn them in ovens? Not let them speak?

Go on, tell me what you would do to those who don't share your values please.
people who allow you to express yourself without fear. Multiple examples has been shown to you.

Not let them in the country. Is it that hard?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:54am On Jul 05, 2024
bemeruca:
Why won't you vote for this guy?
First, I can't even if I wanted to, since he is not running in my constituency. I wouldn't vote for his party neither because he is antiimmigrants and I am pro-migration.

Besides, this guy left dump's campaign to come and run in UK elections. That, and what I've know of him since he was a Member of the European Parliament is enough to detest him.

Basically, his values do not represent mine so he does not get my vote.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:58am On Jul 05, 2024
bemeruca:
people who allow you to express yourself without fear. Multiple examples has been shown to you.

Not let them in the country. Is it that hard?
This is liberal UK where nobody stops us expressing ourselves if we want to. As you can see for yourself, we even allow those you claim are terrorists to come here and say whatever they want so long as they are not committing crimes. If they can say whatever they want without being afraid, I can say whatever I want too without fear.

What's good for the goose is equally good for the gander.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:00am On Jul 05, 2024
bemeruca:
there are other verses they follow. I think you should send them this verse
I thought you said you were not talking about all muslims.

Do all muslims follow what you posted?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:04am On Jul 05, 2024
budaatum:
First, I can't even if I wanted to, since he is not running in my constituency. I wouldn't vote for his party neither because he is antiimmigrants and I am pro-migration.

Besides, this guy left dump's campaign to come and run in UK elections. That, and what I've know of him since he was a Member of the European Parliament is enough to detest him.

Basically, his values do not represent mine so he does not get my vote.
he is not anti-immigrant, he is anti illegal migrant
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:06am On Jul 05, 2024
bemeruca:
he is not anti-immigrant, he is anti illegal migrant
He is a lot of things I can't stand. And there are far more better candidates and parties for me to consider before he becomes an option.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:06am On Jul 05, 2024
budaatum:
I thought you said you were not talking about all muslims.

Do all muslims follow what you posted?
Of course, I am not talking about all. You know this because I used Malaysia as an example of people you would want to migrate to your country. I talk about how Iran wants to spread Caliphate all over the world whereas Saudi-Arabia does not share the same idea
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:08am On Jul 05, 2024
budaatum:
He is a lot of things I can't stand. And there are far more better candidates and parties for me to consider before he becomes an option.
the ones killing the nation
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:14am On Jul 05, 2024
bemeruca:
Not let them in the country. Is it that hard?
Yes, it is that hard. We have people born here who share the values of those you posted and whom we can not stop from being in our country. And unless we know you are a terrorist when you apply for your visa, we can't exactly know that your values differ to ours now, can we? Or would you like them to provide us with a mind report along with their police report so we can see what their values are before we let them in?

We are more concerned with our laws than whatever values a person may have. If you break our laws after we let you in, we will imprison you. And after you've served your sentence we will deport you back to wherever you came from.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:19am On Jul 05, 2024
bemeruca:
the ones killing the nation
No one is killing our nation.

No, scrap that.

We just had elections where we have kicked out those the majority believe are killing our country. They are called the Conservative Party. And we have just now kicked them out democratically, as we do, and replaced them with the Labour Party. And when the Labour Party too start killing our country, we will democratically kick them out too.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:27am On Jul 05, 2024
bemeruca:
Of course, I am not talking about all. You know this because I used Malaysia as an example of people you would want to migrate to your country. I talk about how Iran wants to spread Caliphate all over the world whereas Saudi-Arabia does not share the same idea
Iran is not in UK. Iran is in Iran. And the Iranians that are in our country are not spreading caliphate here and do not disobey our laws or we would catch them and try them before a jury, and if found guilty we will imprison them, and after they have served their prison sentence we will deport them back to Iran.

Do note that some, and not the majority of Iranians in UK are active Jewish and Christians. Would you like us to blanket kick them out top or just the Muslim ones?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranians_in_the_United_Kingdom

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:28am On Jul 05, 2024
bemeruca:
the ones killing the nation
Name one please.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:42am On Jul 05, 2024
We are a nation that learns from our errors and mistakes so that we don't keep repeating them.

https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/cliffords-tower-york/history-and-stories/massacre-of-the-jews/

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:45am On Jul 05, 2024
Here's one you'd love. See how we've advanced in 500 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buggery_Act_1533

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:46am On Jul 05, 2024
budaatum:
Iran is not in UK. Iran is in Iran. And the Iranians that are in our country are not spreading caliphate here and do not disobey our laws or we would catch them and try them before a jury, and if found guilty we will imprison them, and after they have served their prison sentence we will deport them back to Iran.

Do note that some, and not the majority of Iranians in UK are active Jewish and Christians. Would you like us to blanket kick them out top or just the Muslim ones?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranians_in_the_United_Kingdom
Lmao. UK is changing so it's just a matter of time.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:49am On Jul 05, 2024
budaatum:
We have laws in UK. If you bomb people we will find you and arrest you and drag your bombing ass before a jury.

And as I have already pointed out to you but which you cover your eyes so you don't see, we drag anyone who inspires terrorists before a jury too.
The point being made is that there are people whose agenda is different from the British people. They are there to take over Europe in the end.
I'm.sure you have never heard of a country called Lebanon. It used to be a majority peaceful xtian dominated country.Now it has a national army that is not as equipped as hesbolla.
Same thing will happen to Europe eventually. Some enclaves with their own sharia laws.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:52am On Jul 05, 2024
basilico:
The point being made is that there are people whose agenda is different from the British people. They are there to take over Europe in the end.
I'm.sure you have never heard of a country called Lebanon. It used to be a majority peaceful xtian dominated country.
Same thing will happen to Europe eventually.
I think he is just playing dumb, he knows what we mean
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:54am On Jul 05, 2024
bemeruca:
I think he is just playing dumb, he knows what we mean
He knows. Can't explain what migrants who live off welfare from birth to death benefit UK with.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:55am On Jul 05, 2024
bemeruca:
Lmao. UK is changing so it's just a matter of time.
This is the sort of thing Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson would say that makes me detest them. They promote the fear of black people and Muslims, whom they claim do not share their values, are changing the country and should be kicked out.

We gave the world Darwin and evolution. Evolution means 'change over time', which we embrace because it means growth and signifies a capability to adapt to changing environments. And we just voted to kick out those who would conserve the status quo and have voted for change.

We are liberal like that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:02am On Jul 05, 2024
basilico:
The point being made is that there are people whose agenda is different from the British people. They are there to take over Europe in the end.
I'm.sure you have never heard of a country called Lebanon. It used to be a majority peaceful xtian dominated country.Now it has a national army that is not as equipped as hesbolla.
Same thing will happen to Europe eventually. Some enclaves with their own sharia laws.
UK was a pagan nation. Then a time came when we changed and became a Christian nation with churches in every parish. Then we changed again and have now become a secular nation and the churches are now mostly empty.

We are not afraid of change. You can't come here and make our country Lebanon because there are many others who would object by not electing you into our parliament where change is made.

We are resilient like that. If we can kill our own gods, your gods can not survive here.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:06am On Jul 05, 2024
basilico:
He knows. Can't explain what migrants who live off welfare from birth to death benefit UK with.
N he hates people who are worried
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:07am On Jul 05, 2024
basilico:
He knows. Can't explain what migrants who live off welfare from birth to death benefit UK with.
Migrants don't come here and live off welfare from birth to death.

Our welfare benefit is contributory. We collect your contribution through National Insurance when you work, and if you haven't contributed enough, you'd get paid so little welfare that you'd eventually starve and die young. So, there's nothing to fear about you since you'd lack the resource and energy to bother us.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:15am On Jul 05, 2024
budaatum:
Migrants don't come here and live off welfare from birth to death.

Our welfare benefit is contributory. We collect your contribution through National Insurance when you work, and if you haven't contributed enough, you'd get paid so little welfare that you'd eventually starve and die young. So, there's nothing to fear about you since you'd lack the resource and energy to bother us.
Most popular boys name in UK.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:16am On Jul 05, 2024
bemeruca:
N he hates people who are worried
Not true, bem. I don't hate people who are worried. The people I do dislike are ignorant people who refuse to learn, but even those I don't hate because they obviously hate themselves and are not worth the bother.

I do hate those who ignorantly hate others though, especially if those haters claim to be Christians. They are no different to those others who misread their god book and blow up innocent people.

Love one another! They that sayeth they are in the light and hateth another remaineth in darkness.
Human Rights
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:18am On Jul 05, 2024
basilico:
Most popular boys name in UK.
Show me where you see the Mohammeds claiming welfare benefits from birth to death.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:22am On Jul 05, 2024
basilico:
Most popular boys name in UK.
And p.s.

If you had paid attention in school, you'd know that most people naming their child Mohammed does not mean more Muslims are born here. It just means more people choose that name than many other chosen names, which is not a surprise since most Brits choose unique names.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:28am On Jul 05, 2024

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
budaatum:
And p.s.

If you had paid attention in school, you'd know that most people naming their child Mohammed does not mean more Muslims are born here. It just means more people choose that name than many other chosen names, which is not a surprise since most Brits choose unique names.
Yea sure, that's a common name . You are living in denial, truth stares at you.
A small fraction of the population dominating birth rates should tell you something..I'm willing to bet you that the mothers just stay at home getting benefits producing baby after baby after baby . While you work your arse off, others are rewarded for growing the population.

This preacher is not from the Islamic State. He is preaching on Jerusalem, site of Al Aqsa. You think he does not know what he is saying?
I listen to what these guys not to what smug elites in the west .

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:58am On Jul 05, 2024
basilico:
Yea sure, that's a common name . You are living on denial, truth stares at you.
A small fraction of the population dominating birth rates ....
What you posted does not indicate "A small fraction of the population dominating birth rates"! And even if they are dominating birth rates then good for us, as it means our population will keep on growing and tax will grow too, unlike some nations that are suffering from low births.

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2022/12/the-long-term-decline-in-fertility-and-what-it-means-for-state-budgets

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