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confusedlady:
😆 🤣 😂 😹 Lol......
This means you have no source or link for your allegation that the government prevented Ibo protagonists from penning their memoirs about the Nigeria/Biafra civil war....I think moving forward on this forum your subsequent allegations should be taken with a pinch of salt.....

Coldie:
I hv given u ur answer, u hv just made up ur mind to beleive what you want.

Government whether state, military or federal control information. Many non eastern states are anti Biafra, in the east you can publish Biafra memoirs or books, since you are surrounded with easterners and eastern government the consequences might be minimal, but outside the east. Just u talking about it can provoke attack from citizens, mk the state or local government sanction you. This here is a fact. It’s not every story that makes it to the internet as a result of the fact that the internet is just 2 decades old, the Biafran war happened almost 60years ago.

That apart I don’t really give a F what u think of my opinion, I hv asked u questions over 10times in different threads and u didn’t answer any, so i don’t owe u anything.

opamoses1:
[b]They thought the Hausa/Fulani were mumu. That was the thought of the ibos of that era. [/b]They would often mock them for not being able to speak English and see those ones as peasants that could be trampled upon. They forgot that many other tribes in the current Nigeria with the exception of the ibos themselves forged empires that extended beyond Nigeria's border. Empires are forged by blood and warring tribes. Well, they learnt that lesson quickly.

Coldie:
Foolishness is when u fail to say, as at the time ojukwu and the east seceded, ojukwu was military governor of the east, whether minorities were asking for their own region, the present situation as at then was ojukwu was military governor of the east and that’s a fact. So because he is military governor of the east, and his people are being massacred with nothing being done, he shouldn’t negotiate with other eastern minorities about their stake in the east or their stand but instead he should let his people which were not just Igbos but other eastern minorities, continue to get massacred, cause he doesn’t want it to seem like he wants their oil, do u know how foolish this sounds?
Ojukwu was after oil yet ojukwu was more interested in protecting his people than oil, yet people that were not after oil were more interested in protecting oil assets in the east than the people of both the minorities and Igbos.


World look at the mentality of people u guys are listening to all these while. That told you igbos want ur oil. 30years later didn’t it become clear on who really wanted Niger delta oil, it took 30years for there to be a realisation and a massive revolt against the Nigerian government by the SS.

If not for the fact that Nigeria as a whole learnt from what happened to Biafra, I bet u the Niger delta crisis of the early 2000’s would have been a battle for secession.



I put this to all of you who say igbos wanted Niger delta oil, to prove me wrong, if I see any single iota of lie in anything you say, I see the rest as lies?


From the Willink report. It's obvious why COR movement wouldn't have succeeded without a military fiat.

1. Eastern region was run on equity, justice and fairness. All minorities were given sense of belonging.
They could complain of Igbo domination, but there was no truth to it. Every single Eastern region appointment and projects, always reflected 1/3 population representation of the minorities.
They were never cheated.

2. NCNC had many minority heavy weights who were part and parcel of Zik inner cycle. They knew the party was never tribal. Mbu, Akpan, Imoke, Akpabio. They knew the truth and were always going to keep the East united.

3. In as much as the minorities were scared of Igbo domination, they were scared of Each other too.
The Ikwerre, Etches, Ogba, Abua, in Rivers province were weary of Ijaw domination if they joined Ijaws to form Rivers. They were lukewarm to the agitation.
Likewise the minorities in Ogoja (Northern Cross River) were scared of Efik/Ibibio domination.
It cancelled out their fear of Igbo domination and stagnated the COR movement.

Here is the thread on COR creation, to dispel all the lies about Igbos being scared because of oil, read and enlighten yourselves. Truth will always remain truth.

https://www.nairaland.com/5851640/eastern-region-series-cor-movement

confusedlady:
Guy,
Nice vulgar language shows I am hitting a sensitive spot .......
Below are a list of civil war memoirs by authors from the East ....

1) Sunset in Biafra by Elechi Amadi.
2) There was a country by Chinua Achebe.
3) Women and the Nigeria-Biafra was:Reframing gender and conflict in Africa by Gloria Chuku and Sussie Okoro.
4) Oil,politics and violence:Nigeria's military coup culture (1966-1976) by Max Siollun.
5) Surviving Biafra by Elizabeth Bird and Rosina Umelo.
6) The politics of Biafra by Chudi Offodile.
7) Surviving in Biafra by Alfred O. Uzokwe.
The struggle for secession.1966-1970 by Ntieyong U. Akpan.
9) The Untold Story of the Nigeria-Biafra war by Luke Nnaemeka Aneke.
10) Surviving a war by God's grace by Daniel N.Okoro
11) Once upon a time in Biafra 1967-1970 by Onianwa Oluchukwu Ignatus
12) The Nigerian Revolution and the Biafran war by Alexander Madiebo
13) Biafra Africa died: The diplomatic plot by Emefiena Ezeani
14) The Nigeria civil war by Phillips O. Okoro
15) Divided we stand by Cyprian Ekwensi
16) On a darkling plain by Ken Saro Wiwa
17) Fact and fiction in the Literature of Nigerian civil war by Akachi Ezeigbo
18) The economics of the Nigerian civil war by Reuben N. Ogbudinkpa
19) Because I am involved by Emeka Odumegwu Ojukwu
20) Reflections on the Nigerian civil war by Raph Uweche.

AntiMarxist:
And every single one of those books deserve only to be used as either door stoppers or to balance a rickety table.

Pure fiction and half truths.

The fact that they had to continue their Biafra propaganda shows that they needed to rehabilitate themselves before the world .

confusedlady:
Lol....
A few of them are actually good...I found Raph Uweche, Ken Saro Wiwa, Elechi Amadi and Max Siollun were a bit fair in their books. Most of the others in particular Achebe were biased,one sided books not worth the paper they were written on......I just listed them out because coldie was lying that the government did not allow Ibo writers to talk about the civil war. On the contrary the government did not disturb anyone who chose to write about the civil war,in fact as early as 1971,a year after the war Elechi Amadi wrote Sunset in Biafra.

gidgiddy:
The only thing that is funny about this thread is people who are digging up old history from 60 or 70 years ago, but have not learnt from the history they are digging up that we should not be together

We should have conducted a referendum long time ago and gone our different ways as history has only shown that the creation of Nigeria by the British was a huge mistake

In my opinion, the Northerners are perfectly entitled to consider whether or not they should secede from the indissoluble union which nature has formed between it and the South, but it would be calamitous to the corporate existence of the North should the clamour for secession prevail

gidgiddy:
The only thing that is funny about this thread is people who are digging up old history from 60 or 70 years ago, but have not learnt from the history they are digging up that we should not be together

We should have conducted a referendum long time ago and gone our different ways as history has only shown that the creation of Nigeria by the British was a huge mistake

Buccalcavity2:
Don't be confused and repeating same. The only way a referendum could have been conducted is if it was in the constitution- secession clause. Now your man opposed and criminalized it, how then can a referendum be conducted when it is alien to the constitution? All subsequent Constitution grew from previous ones. So how?

gidgiddy:
Referendum is already in the constitution of Nigeria. Before you can create a state, referendum must be held

But the funny thing is that those who are against referendum today to let Nigeria breakup, are the people who complain the lodest that Zik was against referendum

Buccalcavity2:
Why do you like mischief?
We are aware that referendum is required for state creation. The thread is about referendum for secession (secession clause) and that is the issue here.
Nigeria constitution today criminalises secession as initiated by the representatives of South Easterners ab initio . So how will a referendum hold for Biafra creation?
For me, the narratives of you and Coldie here attempt to insult the intelligence of others and the more you do it, the more irritating it becomes.

Yorubafather:
Who made the constitution? you sound like a educated illiterate who can’t survive without Nigeria as a country

Buccalcavity2:
Why do you like mischief?
We are aware that referendum is required for state creation. The thread is about referendum for secession (secession clause) and that is the issue here.
Nigeria constitution today criminalises secession as initiated by the representatives of South Easterners ab initio . So how will a referendum hold for Biafra creation?
For me, the narratives of you and Coldie here attempt to insult the intelligence of others and the more you do it, the more irritating it becomes.

confusedlady:
"In my personal opinion, there is no sense in the North breaking away or the East or the West breaking away; it would be better if all the regions would address themselves to the task of crystallizing common nationality, irrespective of the extraneous influences at work. What history has joined together let no man put asunder. But history is a strange mistress which can cause strange things to happen!"


If this statement by Azikiwe is not unity Begging, I wonder what unity Begging means.

Ttipsy:
He’s thought was for a better Nigeria where there is no tribalism and religious bigotry but unfortunately for him, he was joking

A big joker!

flokii:
This is one part of history Igbos wish could be erased but unfortunately for them, they can't erase it.

Adaka Boro declared Republic of Niger Delta for his own people to exit the union, Aguiyi Ironsi and Ojukwu especially went all out to crush Adaka Boro and his soldiers (they killed many of the soldiers from that part), only for him (Ojukwu) to declare biafra and commit the same crime Boro committed months later after Aguiyi Ironsi's dictatorship got toppled by the North.

We all know the story of how the minorities in the creeks backed the Federal troops to invade and crush biafra.. even Adaka Boro after his release fought on the Nigerian side against Ojukwu out of hunger for revenge over the inhumane treatment he got from the Igbos.

kedeojo:
They can't erase it. Biafra is dead. They must stay and suffered what others did when Ironsi and Ojukwu and his people were on top.

gidgiddy:
The one Nigerianists have arrived to analyse a speech of over 70 years ago, so as to protect their useless 'one Nigeria'

BabaRamota1980:
The were used fear tactics to cajole North against their desire for secession.

I thought Lugard formed this nigeria together, why is Zik lying against nature?

Shyyyt!

confusedlady:
A).


I have invited you to attend this caucus because I would like you to make clear our stand on the issue of secession. As a party, we would have preferred Nigeria to remain intact, but lest there be doubt as to our willingness to concede to any shade of political opinion the right to determine its policy, I am obliged to issue a solemn warning to those who are goading the North towards secession. If you agree with my views, then I hope that in course of our deliberations tonight, you will endorse them, to enable me to publicize them in the Press.

In my opinion, the Northerners are perfectly entitled to consider whether or not they should secede from the indissoluble union which nature has formed between it and the South, but it would be calamitous to the corporate existence of the North should the clamour for secession prevail. I, therefore, counsel Northern leaders to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of secession before embarking upon this dangerous course.

confusedlady:
INDISOLABLE UNION.(See grammar)
LOL....

flokii:
The real definition of "betrayer"

Fast forward to present day, his ignorant kiths and their offsprings are busy blaming Awolowo and Yorubas for not allowing them secede when Azikiwe and the Igbos in 60s' made the laws that criminalized secession.

They want to change rules of the game after match has started.. cunning bunch.