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Ayemileto:
All the women that came yesterday came from a big city, and their transportation cost (to and fro) should be at least N1,800 per person. If we factor in how much they'll get charged for load (to move from farm to express, and express to city), then the transport costs for each of them can go up to 7k or even more.

The issue here is that, this small scale buyers will need to buy extremely cheap themselves, for them to break even. Imagine the woman that buys only 16K spending 7k on transportation, already, her costs already shoots up to 23k (Almost 50% up).

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Exactly.

There's the direct cost of transportation - fueling costs and other vehicle related costs. And there's the other costs - official and unofficial taxes, levies, duties, extortion by police, extortion by NURTW, extortion by state and local government workers etc. Those in the latter group - the group of government parasites and government approved parasites who litter our roads, parks and garages are the biggest tax on productivity in this country.

A real pity that those who make policy in this country consider it beneath them to get in a farm vehicle with farmers/traders and monitor the movement of farm produce from farm to market in real time, real world conditions. When one follows the movement of goods by road in this country, one will understand first hand why stuff is expensive. It makes absolutely no sense for farmers margins to be squeezed to almost zero while leeches in NURTW, police, army and local government councils feed fat on their sweat. No country can make progress this way.

extol1:
I just planted my maize today, targeting dry one. Hope it is not too late

Not at all
It's not too late

You can intercrop beans by September after maize harvest your beans continue....

Good luck

Ayemileto:
I'm a first time maize farmer, and my maize farm is finally ready for Harvesting. Someone brought in some market women to harvest and buy today.

The rate at which this women purchased is so ridiculous that if I continue selling like this, I won't make what I spent on the project back, not to talk of profit.

It was actually painful because I didn't discuss price with them before they started harvesting, as I assumed the person who brought them already did the discussion, only for this women to come up with a ridiculous rate after harvesting. They claim there's now excess maize in the market.

Another buyer someone called for me offer even worse prices.

It appears they have a maize seller association, where they fix their buying prices.

I'm currently considering harvesting and taking to the market myself, because I'm sure I should be able to sell at X2 of their buying prices (their buying prices is currently between 40 - 55 Naira per Maize on Average, and I think I should be able to sell at 100 - 120 Naira per Maize at the market)

I can't leave the maize to dry because of the rate of rainfall we're currently experiencing.

Any Clue from experienced farmers?

it would have been your best option.
But if you could send it north maybe the price ll be higher b4 their harvest started. Check the cost of transport

Fujiyama:
^^^


Exactly.

There's the direct cost of transportation - fueling costs and other vehicle related costs. And there's the other costs - official and unofficial taxes, levies, duties, extortion by police, extortion by NURTW, extortion by local government workers etc. Those in the latter group - the group of government and government approved parasites who litter our roads, parks and garages are the biggest tax on productivity in this country.

A real pity that those who make policy in this country consider it beneath them to get in a farm vehicle with farmers/traders and monitor the movement of farm produce from farm to market in real time, real world conditions. When one follows the movement of goods by road in this country, one will understand first hand why stuff is expensive. It makes absolutely no sense for farmers margins to be squeezed to almost zero while leeches in NURTW, police, army and local government councils feed fat on their sweat. No country can make progress this way.

Believe me it's the wickedness of the common junior officers on the road. The big ogas no get hand for that one.

Ayemileto:
I'm a first time maize farmer, and my maize farm is finally ready for Harvesting. Someone brought in some market women to harvest and buy today.

The rate at which this women purchased is so ridiculous that if I continue selling like this, I won't make what I spent on the project back, not to talk of profit.

It was actually painful because I didn't discuss price with them before they started harvesting, as I assumed the person who brought them already did the discussion, only for this women to come up with a ridiculous rate after harvesting. They claim there's now excess maize in the market.

Another buyer someone called for me offer even worse prices.

It appears they have a maize seller association, where they fix their buying prices.

I'm currently considering harvesting and taking to the market myself, because I'm sure I should be able to sell at X2 of their buying prices (their buying prices is currently between 40 - 55 Naira per Maize on Average, and I think I should be able to sell at 100 - 120 Naira per Maize at the market)

I can't leave the maize to dry because of the rate of rainfall we're currently experiencing.

Any Clue from experienced farmers?

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Those women are a cheating crazy lot, stop selling to them take your corn to the market by yourself or you let it dry, shell the seed from the cubb and bagged them for off season sale.I am in Ogûn state too Owode Idiroko precisely

Silly mistake of not discussing the price before harvesting.
Place value on your product.

Leave them to dry.

epainos:
I don't know why you guys promote dried corn. The cost of production is even high. Lol. Propose drying in this rainy season? Plus...if you understand fresh corn sales, you will never dry again. It is always more profitable.

leaving corn to dry is the best option if you have a storage facility forget about boiling corn or roasting corn they have a very big disadvantages , how are you going to do the remaining corn after daily sales as everybody love fresh corn or you’re 100% sure you’ll sell off everything everyday. If you can’t allow the corn to dry market women is the next option. Here in ibadan where my farm is I’m currently selling my maize equivalent to #70 per porn buyers around the OP farm are greedy

stanvesco:
If you are in a good town

Whole not set up corn roasting hubs na

Five spots can finish Ur maize farm

You're smart

Maryam1234:
Not at all
It's not too late

You can intercrop beans by September after maize harvest your beans continue....

Good luck

Thank you so much

tellsblinks:
Please give examples of such stages? I'm interested to know

U can be a middleman...
Going to small-scale farmers...
Buying grain produce and selling to retailers or companies at a higher price for profit
U buy low and sell high ....with less risk and no production cost

Alamu5891:
leaving corn to dry is the best option if you have a storage facility forget about boiling corn or roasting corn they have a very big disadvantages , how are you going to do the remaining corn after daily sales as everybody love fresh corn or you’re 100% sure you’ll sell off everything everyday. If you can’t allow the corn to dry market women is the next option. Here in ibadan where my farm is I’m currently selling my maize equivalent to #70 per porn buyers around the OP farm are greedy

Don't talk about what you don't know. Fresh corn makes more profit than dried. Shikena. Be humble to learn more.

Good luck!

9jii:
Believe me it's the wickedness of the common junior officers on the road. The big ogas no get hand for that one.

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Sadly, the 'big ogas' get hand, big time.

It is a well oiled, smoothly functioning machine that has been around for decades. The junior ones do their thing on the road and remit to the ogas at the end of the day. Both 'common junior officer' and 'office big oga' fully understand their part in the game.

If the big ogas were to face consequences for all this nonsense, it would stop within 24 hours. I guarantee you that.

Ayemileto:
I'm a first time maize farmer, and my maize farm is finally ready for Harvesting. Someone brought in some market women to harvest and buy today.

The rate at which this women purchased is so ridiculous that if I continue selling like this, I won't make what I spent on the project back, not to talk of profit.

It was actually painful because I didn't discuss price with them before they started harvesting, as I assumed the person who brought them already did the discussion, only for this women to come up with a ridiculous rate after harvesting. They claim there's now excess maize in the market.

Another buyer someone called for me offer even worse prices.

It appears they have a maize seller association, where they fix their buying prices.

I'm currently considering harvesting and taking to the market myself, because I'm sure I should be able to sell at X2 of their buying prices (their buying prices is currently between 40 - 55 Naira per Maize on Average, and I think I should be able to sell at 100 - 120 Naira per Maize at the market)

I can't leave the maize to dry because of the rate of rainfall we're currently experiencing.

Any Clue from experienced farmers?

U have make a big mistake already, those market women made me say good bye to farming forever.
Those women are heartless people n if u want to buy from them u will hear what they will demand.

They make ×2 of what farmers invest n the only thing they spend money on is transportation. C u will notice the way your maize will start getting dry n won't be marketable in the next few days if u don't act fast. I wish u all the best

Many farners can't go to their arms anymore.

Ayemileto:
I'm a first time maize farmer, and my maize farm is finally ready for Harvesting. Someone brought in some market women to harvest and buy today.

The rate at which this women purchased is so ridiculous that if I continue selling like this, I won't make what I spent on the project back, not to talk of profit.

It was actually painful because I didn't discuss price with them before they started harvesting, as I assumed the person who brought them already did the discussion, only for this women to come up with a ridiculous rate after harvesting. They claim there's now excess maize in the market.

Another buyer someone called for me offer even worse prices.

It appears they have a maize seller association, where they fix their buying prices.

I'm currently considering harvesting and taking to the market myself, because I'm sure I should be able to sell at X2 of their buying prices (their buying prices is currently between 40 - 55 Naira per Maize on Average, and I think I should be able to sell at 100 - 120 Naira per Maize at the market)

I can't leave the maize to dry because of the rate of rainfall we're currently experiencing.

Any Clue from experienced farmers?

Maize they are selling 4/5 1000naira in Owerri.

Roasted 400naira.

You were supposed to harvest, dry it, trash it, bag it and store for a while before selling...

If u have a car, load your boot, look for a busy junction. Settle awon boys, open your boot and sell your maize at a price slightly cheaper than what's obtainable outside and give jara. Na you go tire. If you don't have a car. Hire wheel barrows. U can get some boys in your area to sell for you if u can't do it yourself but do your accounting properly.

Forget those women that claim union. They are evil thieves, going from farm to farm to reap where they didn't sow. May God help you.

It's better it's dry. So many will come for it. Even factories

Zwooks:
What does this one know. Swerve

10000 cobs at 200 each is N2m. A hectare holds 50,000 plants. Even 50% harvest will make this guy so much money.

Oyerinde16:
You were supposed to harvest, dry it, trash it, bag it and store for a while before selling...

Clearly you have never farmed maize commercially. We know the Internet farmers when we see them.

Selling Fresh corn at the farm can be profitable and less stressful. I'm a practicing farmer..I farmed an acre this year..I planted oba super6 gotten at 2400/2kg..if not some maize that I planted 2per hole that one only came out, I will have not less than 21k plants on an acre. My land is fertile and I only spent on tilling, seeds and chemicals at a maximum of 110k. If I sold at 50 per cob, I will make good money even if my plant population is 15k(which is even more)..I'm planning to plant in August for a 2nd time which I will dry..people saying you should dry dont consider having to get d machine for shelling and everything involved...it's cos its ur 1st time cos if i plant an hectare im definitely smiling even selling at #50per cob..get ur plant population right and watch those women or better still be the one to harvest for them and count...FRESH CORN IS PROFITABLE!!..some farmers dont evn get more than a tonne of dry maize on an acre..which is 850k now..if you have 20k plants on your acre at #50 per cob you still make good money without drying and shelling and you get to plant in August again

stagger:
Clearly you have never farmed maize commercially. We know the Internet farmers when we see them.

If I have manages 100 hectare of farm land, planting beans soya beans maize etc, if I have done deals with floor mills of Ibadan, Olam farm in Kaduna and countless food processing companies , and you say I am internet farmer, then I rest my case...
I have solicited and gotten countless farm partnership deals worth over 10 million even on this Nairaland in the past, and you call me internet farmer...
I gave his the best advice for even large scale farming, you farm, harvest, dry it, pack and bag it then store it...
During harvest, prices of commodities drop cos of excess commodities in the market, but after about 2-3-4 months the prices begin to go up, then and only then can you make good gain... If this op, said this is what he wanted to do, I would have bought everything on his farm.
How does he sell to agbado roasters and wants to sell one for 120, how much is roasted corn, they sometimes sell 100 or two 100...

Oga you need to apologize and retract that your statement abeg...

Oyerinde16:
If I have manages 100 hectare of farm land, planting beans soya beans maize etc, if I have done deals with floor mills of Ibadan, Olam farm in Kaduna and countless food processing companies , and you say I am internet farmer, then I rest my case...
I have solicited and gotten countless farm partnership deals worth over 10 million even on this Nairaland in the past, and you call me internet farmer...
I gave his the best advice for even large scale farming, you farm, harvest, dry it, pack and bag it then store it...
During harvest, prices of commodities drop cos of excess commodities in the market, but after about 2-3-4 months the prices begin to go up, then and only then can you make good gain... If this op, said this is what he wanted to do, I would have bought everything on his farm.
How does he sell to agbado roasters and wants to sell one for 120, how much is roasted corn, they sometimes sell 100 or two 100...

Oga you need to apologize and retract that your statement abeg...

Oga, i put it to you squarely that you don't know the economics of drying maize for sale. Roasted corn is N200 in Abuja. Some areas even sell N250 and N300 per cob for boiled and roasted corn.

You asked him to dry the corn. Do you know the economics from ploughing to harvest, the yield pee hectare, and cost of shelling, winnowing, drying, bagging and storage with regards to his location? If you do, prove it with figures.

Let's do the Maths.

Ayemileto:
I'm a first time maize farmer, and my maize farm is finally ready for Harvesting. Someone brought in some market women to harvest and buy today.

The rate at which this women purchased is so ridiculous that if I continue selling like this, I won't make what I spent on the project back, not to talk of profit.

It was actually painful because I didn't discuss price with them before they started harvesting, as I assumed the person who brought them already did the discussion, only for this women to come up with a ridiculous rate after harvesting. They claim there's now excess maize in the market.

Another buyer someone called for me offer even worse prices.

It appears they have a maize seller association, where they fix their buying prices.

I'm currently considering harvesting and taking to the market myself, because I'm sure I should be able to sell at X2 of their buying prices (their buying prices is currently between 40 - 55 Naira per Maize on Average, and I think I should be able to sell at 100 - 120 Naira per Maize at the market)

I can't leave the maize to dry because of the rate of rainfall we're currently experiencing.

Any Clue from experienced farmers?

The maize that was bought from you at 18k a bag sold for 60k bwtween may 24 and may 30 at owode... I peraonally sold maize for 37k a bag in the month of april.......

This is the period for fresh maize glut, use this to understand the nature of agriculture.......

Try to understand what made you obtain a good harvest and shift ur production date to xoinxide with period of high prices

Fresh maize will peak again around october but it will never be rainfed.............

This period u have to be harveating tomato and pepper to make good money but their skill level is extremely high

I believe u should sell and move on, most yellow opv maize varieties yield poorly in terms of dry weight. I pray you recover at least 50% of invested capital

Ayemileto:
Smoked maize goes for N200 per one here. It's if you price that they'll give you 3 for 500.

So, if cooking or smoking, you'll sell at N150 per cob at a minimum, and this place is even a local environment, not those big cities.

I do understand the economical aspects though, and thinking about it, I believe that's where the issue comes from.

All the women that came yesterday came from a big city, and their transportation cost (to and fro) should be at least N1,800 per person. If we factor in how much they'll get charged for load (to move from farm to express, and express to city), then the transport costs for each of them can go up to 7k or even more.

None of them bought up to 30K worth of products. In fact, one bought only 16k worth of products and she even had to borrow money to complete the payment.

The issue here is that, this small scale buyers will need to buy extremely cheap themselves, for them to break even. Imagine the woman that buys only 16K spending 7k on transportation, already, her costs already shoots up to 23k (Almost 50% up).

I think, going forward, if I want to sell from farm, then I will probably look out for those that can buy in huge quantities (as they will be able to buy at a better rate, since their transportation will be cheaper). But for now, I will be taking to the market on market days.

Sell at ur farm gate, the problem u have faced producing is already enough..... Instead learn how to produce and secure ur farm when prices are high.....

The heart ache u experience in the period of high glut is a fragment of the heart ache u might experience if ur farm produce are stolen in period of scarcity

stagger:
Oga, i put it to you squarely that you don't know the economics of drying maize for sale. Roasted corn is N200 in Abuja. Some areas even sell N250 and N300 per cob for boiled and roasted corn.

You asked him to dry the corn. Do you know the economics from ploughing to harvest, the yield pee hectare, and cost of shelling, winnowing, drying, bagging and storage with regards to his location? If you do, prove it with figures.

Let's do the Maths.

Oga rest, there is absolutely no economics in drying maize ok, at harvest you stack the maize standing for about a week or two on the farm, after than old women or kids she'll the maize in bags, if you can, you get a maize trashing machine that trash the maize, you then proceed to bagging, transportation to store or ware houses...

There is nothing difficult there...

I can't keep arguing with you abeg...
Do you know how many hectare is the farm in pictures attached... You cannot trek it...

Oyerinde16:
Oga rest, there is absolutely no economics in drying maize ok, at harvest you stack the maize standing for about a week or two on the farm, after than old women or kids she'll the maize in bags, if you can, you get a maize trashing machine that trash the maize, you then proceed to bagging, transportation to store or ware houses...

There is nothing difficult there...

I can't keep arguing with you abeg...
Do you know how many hectare is the farm in pictures attached... You cannot trek it...

If u try this in Ogun state , u are a goner,u are invariably leaving ur fate to chance as one sily 5 minute rain will spoil all ur produce

The climate of Ogun state does not support this except you farm maize with the late rain....

If you must dry better get a powered dryer

epainos:
Don't talk about what you don't know. Fresh corn makes more profit than dried. Shikena. Be humble to learn more.

Good luck!

you don’t know anything and you’re expecting to teach
Bro don’t forget that you can’t teach what you don’t know
Say It if you cannot afford to fund your Farm produce to finishing product
If you’re doubting show the picture of your farm and I will show mine

betabread:
If u try this in Ogun state , u are a goner,u are invariably leaving ur fate to chance as one sily 5 minute rain will spoil all ur produce

The climate of Ogun state does not support this except you farm maize with the late rain....

If you must dry better get a powered dryer

Dryer to dry maize, you don't like fryer...
You are funny...
If you know small or large scale farming, you will know that the way you stack maize, rain cannot spoil it...
Even inside rain you can still trash it and later dry it on big spread trampolines in open fields....
See, the farmer is a learner, he messed up his investment... He would have asked professional farmers like us...
But you say we are internet farmers .

Ayemileto:
Well, like I said in my opening post, this is my first time. So, I'm clueless on how much quantity to expect, and you don't expect me to be selling like I'm doing giveaways with this kind of uncertainty.

All the theoretical maths didn't actually work accurately too. For example, theoretically, A 3 acres land size should take 25KG of maize seeds. But when we planted, we didn't even finish the 20KG bag of seeds (we planted manually. I intend to use a machine to plant next time, so as to address this).

Also, I can see we discussed on another thread about the germination rate. I planted Seedco 510 seed variety, I believed pests removed a good portion of the seeds, even after replanting. you on the other hand suggested the germination rate was poor from your experience.

So, I have to make decisions in my best interests, with all these in mind.

You may be making alternate decisions from the one I'm making, based on the information and experience you have, and that's fine.

My dear sell at this price loss and use this as a lesson, you are gradually understanding maize, u have started speaking the language and are talking of the problems you will solve to make good money from maize

Dont just follow what you read hook line and sinker,
Many things will still need a little tweeking here and there......

There are many obstacles to cross but once you reach promise land maize is blood money