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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IMAliyu(m): 1:01am On Jul 26, 2024
kkins25:
Every thing's fair in Love and War!

What do you mean free speech absolutist?
Well to understand free speech absolutism it's easier to just point out what makes it different from the current views of free speech.

Both are the belief that an individual has the inalienable right to political free speech where the state cannot prosecute or infringe on that right.

The distinction is that absolutists "believe that restricting free speech in any way, including curbing insulting or factually incorrect speech, means assigning gatekeepers who decide what can and cannot be expressed in public." The necessitation of some kind of arbiter or moderator, is something they find problematic and are against. (A reason Elon had a problem with old Twitter)

The core of free speech absolutism is the idea that only through a free and unfiltered exchange of views and ideas can we reach the “truth”, otherwise dubbed "freemarket of ideas".

Liberal Free speech views recognizes a distraction in hate speech and political free speech.
Absolute free speech views do not recognize hate speech, and anything classified as political speech is protected.

My quick critique:
-This may sound rosey and ideal, but the end product is due to the fact that "this life no get balance (economically and socially etc)" the speech of some are louder than others and that means the inevitable suppression of other weaker voices.

-Another consequence is that this belief doesn't allow for the holding of people responsible if or when their speech results in real life violence, threats or harassment, because absolutism doesn't recognize the concept of hate speech.

-There is nothing inherent about this that will result in arrival at the "truth" it's like opening up a serious discussion on orbital mechanics, to a flat earth conspiracy theorist to contribute, all you will get is unnecessary noise, not the truth.

There are more critiques, but I'll keep it at this, now taking these critiques into accounts are why I'm not an absolutist, and I believe that censoring people that will use their speech in inciting harm and infringement on the rights of others as necessary to keeping the bear minimum of a functioning social fabric.
So Banning Nazis, Bigots, Islamofascists, Anti-Democratic personas etc... is fair game and necessary to me, but not necessarily to a self proclaimed absolutist like Musk.

For further reading: https://www.liberties.eu/en/stories/free-speech-absolutist/4421
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Amujale(m):
ijebosb:
She is born of a Jamaican dad and Indian mother who immigrated to the US. There is no pure African American if that is what you are thinking. Every African American is or is a descendent of someone who immigrated here or was forced here from another country.

As to the identity, a person of mixed ancestry can choose which one to identify with or both. It's simple. She can choose to identify with the culture of her Jamaican, Indian or because she was raised in American as an African American or all three. Her choice. Her joining a black sorority says it all.
Are you going to answer my question?

Yet, you continue to spout false assertions.

Since, you continue to claim that she is African American, then, why does she identify as being an East Indian descendant.

Frankly, you're not making much sense and are simply allowing your emotions to cloud your judgement.

Furthermore, you aren't disputing the fact that she's proven to be bad for Black America, you're silence on this can translate to mean that you could care less about the African American community so long as you get to fantasize about the possibility of what you deem to be the first Black woman to campaign for President of the US. Eventhough, this has already proven to be false.

Are you?

Assuming you aren't disputing these facts and yet, continue to spout these false assertions, regardless, then you have no argument here and are clearly pretending to be delusional.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:39am On Jul 26, 2024
@IMAliyu
When I say society is doomed.
They transitioned, they don't want to have kids, they are not happy, and they keep inventing things that make them unhappy.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:44am On Jul 26, 2024
@IMAliyu This is how they groom the kids, making them confused and start giving them chemical castration from a young age.

Kamala harris is at it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:00am On Jul 26, 2024
Amujale:
Are you going to answer my question?

Yet, you continue to spout false assertions.

Since, you continue to claim that she is African American, then, why does she identify as being an East Indian descendant.

Frankly, you're not making much sense and are simply allowing your emotions to cloud your judgement.

Furthermore, you aren't disputing the fact that she's proven to be bad for Black America, you're silence on this can translate to mean that you could care less about the African American community so long as you get to fantasy about the possibility of what you deem to be the first Black woman to campaign for President of the US. Eventhough, this has already proven to be false.

Are you?

Assuming you aren't disputing these facts and yet, continue to spout these false assertions, regardless, then you have no argument here and are clearly pretending to be delusional.
Ijebosb is suffering from cognitive dissonance. He was even arguing against his own position as he tries to ingest lies to confirm his bias.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 3:01am On Jul 26, 2024
bemeruca:
@IMAliyu
When I say society is doomed.
They transitioned, they don't want to have kids, they are not happy, and they keep inventing things that make them unhappy.
And wetin come concern you if they say they don't want kids? How is that your business?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Amujale(m):
ijebosb:
I did find this link
Seems more like someone was committing fraud.
Nina Simone is an African American treasure who passed away April 21st 2003, leaving a vast estate and charitable trust.

As of 2013, this was in the control of her only child, her daughter, Lisa Simone Kelly.

In light of what has occurred in plain sight under the current US legal system, one would have to question the methods used during the process of disposessing the only heir to Nina Simone so as to award her mother's most prized assets to a Recording Studio?

How is that fair?

When Black America is fighting tooth and nail in order to open legit avenues whereby one may be able to access "generational wealth" for good and ultimately create a somewhat level playing field, here comes Kamala who you claim is one of us, moving completely sideways so as to block any such effort.


I submit to the forum, that outside of the ordinary, such as 'beefing', there is no African American anywhere on planet Earth who would work to divert the assets of a national treasure such as Nina Simone; would make such a move against another African American, period.


Summary, Nina Simone spent all her positive energy, sweat and tears so as to create a future for her daughter and loved ones, only for the best part of the inheritance to then be unceremoniously snatched away from her by team Harris.

Ultimately, Lisa Simone is accused and convicted of defrauding her own inheritance, make that make sense.

Wait, theres more, while you're at it, (trying to make sense out of something that doesn't make any sense, that is), lets assume one might, could use any one legal argument in an attempt to make sense of the above observation (frankly, such arguments can and will be easily
rebuffed.) then, how about explaining the reasoning behind then awarding all those assets to a Recording Studio?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:38am On Jul 26, 2024
happney65:
And wetin come concern you if they say they don't want kids? How is that your business?
how does society survive if we don't perform our duty? A lioness looks for a male lion to mate with once it is ready, this will happen till they can mate no more, they tend to select the strongest male so their offspring is strong too. why? they want to preserve their species.


it is not my business but society is doomed. too bad people like you are unaware. thanks to TV and tiktok.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Amujale(m): 4:28am On Jul 26, 2024
bemeruca:
Ijebosb is suffering from cognitive dissonance. He was even arguing against his own position as he tries to ingest lies to confirm his bias.
Super Facts
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:35am On Jul 26, 2024
The media just can't stop lying. The her post Is still up but still dey lie.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:45am On Jul 26, 2024
bemeruca:
The media just can't stop lying. The her post Is still up but still dey lie.
Media has a pervasive control of at least 50% of the population. After COVID they realized that they could get away with any lie. They will deny video footage, audio and print evidence in broad daylight.
And fools will still believe them.
Obrigardo believes Biden is healthier than Trump for instance.
Our resident idiot, aah that one is beyond repair
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:01am On Jul 26, 2024
basilico:
Media has a pervasive control of at least 50% of the population. After COVID they realized that they could get away with any lie. They will deny video footage, audio and print evidence in broad daylight.
And fools will still believe them.
Obrigardo believes Biden is healthier than Trump for instance.
Our resident idiot, aah that one is beyond repair
This is election rigging
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 6:55am On Jul 26, 2024
bemeruca:
how does society survive if we don't perform our duty? A lioness looks for a male lion to mate with once it is ready, this will happen till they can mate no more, they tend to select the strongest male so their offspring is strong too. why? they want to preserve their species.


it is not my business but society is doomed. too bad people like you are unaware. thanks to TV and tiktok.
Walahi,baba werey ni e.. grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 7:08am On Jul 26, 2024
Have you guys heard about the White women zoom call where money was raised?

https://x.com/BlackKnight10k/status/1816648437904851114?s=19

https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1816665689861624008?s=19

Cc. 1stgenamerican, cococandy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 7:30am On Jul 26, 2024
basilico:
Media has a pervasive control of at least 50% of the population. After COVID they realized that they could get away with any lie. They will deny video footage, audio and print evidence in broad daylight.
And fools will still believe them.
Obrigardo believes Biden is healthier than Trump for instance.
Our resident idiot, aah that one is beyond repair
Fúck this shit

Convicted felon trump's loss this November will be child's play compared to 2020. The loss will cause the republican party to splinter just like the Whig party days.

Dumb maga cultists still think it's all a game

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 7:32am On Jul 26, 2024
AmazonTopaz:
Have you guys heard about the White women zoom call where money was raised?

https://x.com/BlackKnight10k/status/1816648437904851114?s=19

https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1816665689861624008?s=19

Cc. 1stgenamerican, cococandy.
Dumb magats are not ready.
Convicted felon trump has basically given up and ran away from the debates.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 7:48am On Jul 26, 2024
happney65:
And wetin come concern you if they say they don't want kids? How is that your business?
Let me tell you this basic truth, never trust your kids with these people. They hide under the christian pious banner to rape kids and violate little children.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by EnlightenedUFO: 8:14am On Jul 26, 2024
Fake pastor olaadegbu and basilico loco wants to talk about Kamala Harris's past sex life but turn their dirty cheek when they see pics like this.

Scumbags.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:31am On Jul 26, 2024
EnlightenedUFO:
Fake pastor olaadegbu and basilico loco wants to talk about Kamala Harris's past sex life but turn their dirty cheek when they see pics like this.

Scumbags.
Get this. Only Trump was willing to help the victims.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by EnlightenedUFO: 8:34am On Jul 26, 2024
basilico:
Get this. Only Trump was willing to help the victims.
Convicted felon trump is a liar and a gaslighter.
You should be ashamed to talk about Kamala's sexual history.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:47am On Jul 26, 2024
Hmmm voter registration is blowing off the roof.
Never seen an enthusiasm like this.
Not even in Obama's first time.

Dems are all united, some of convicted felon trump's staff have quit and endorsed Kamala, and anti-maga republicans are now united and fired up. White women are raising millions, and nikki Haley voters are calling her cease and desist bluff and going all in for Democrats up and down the ballot

Maga cult never expected this wave.

Felon trump is cooked.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:01am On Jul 26, 2024
Oh yes.


White women came out for Kamala. Let the dumb nairalanders quoting me yesterday about how white women will never support her eat dust.

AmazonTopaz:
Have you guys heard about the White women zoom call where money was raised?

https://x.com/BlackKnight10k/status/1816648437904851114?s=19

https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1816665689861624008?s=19

Cc. 1stgenamerican, cococandy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:02am On Jul 26, 2024
EnlightenedUFO:
Convicted felon trump is a liar and a gaslighter.
You should be ashamed to talk about Kamala's sexual history.
Conservatives live on hypocrisy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:03am On Jul 26, 2024
Obrigardo:
Dumb magats are not ready.
Convicted felon trump has basically given up and ran away from the debates.
He’s scared

As he should be.

Kamala said she’ll wipe the floor with him
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 9:07am On Jul 26, 2024
cococandy:
He’s scared

As he should be.

Kamala said she’ll wipe the floor with him
Kamala has wiped out convicted felon trump's black support gains. Now she has 90%! Black support.

90%!!!

Convicted felon trump is not ready.

😂

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:07am On Jul 26, 2024

NEW: Thomas Matthew Crooks made nine posts on Gab supporting President Biden, COVID lockdowns, and Biden's border policies, according to Gab Founder Andrew Torba @BasedTorba.


"Im sorry explain to me how trump was ever concerned with what the left wanted, or anybody in the GOP for that matter?"

"The reason all the deaths are down is because you are in stuck in your house."

"Actually the executive order allows an easier path to US citizenship therefore no longer making them illegals and allowing children to join their already legalized immigrant parents in the US."

"first of all Biden executive orders don't incentivize human trafficking as human traffickers aren't interested in citizenships, likewise the majority of illegal immigrants are not criminals and in fact some studies(such as the one linked below) show lower rates of crime committed by these individuals, it is also unclear if the extensive path to citizenship is in fact effective at routing out potential bad actors hence why there is a review of that system."

"Thats funny because the first order mandates a reuniting of any families separated at the border, the 2nd and 3rd orders a review of trumps immigration policies and other previous policies. However his order doesn't actually open borders or reduce the authority of border patrol, or anything that would substantially reduce BP effectiveness."


Someone shamelessly tells he is a Republican
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:13am On Jul 26, 2024
Obrigardo:
Kamala has wiped out convicted felon trump's black support gains. Now she has 90%! Black support.

90%!!!

Convicted felon trump is not ready.

😂
Has it occurred to you that Obama has not endorse Kamala yet?
He thinks she won't win.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:15am On Jul 26, 2024
EnlightenedUFO:
Convicted felon trump is a liar and a gaslighter.
You should be ashamed to talk about Kamala's sexual history.
He is running on his record as president.
Nobody cares what he does in his private life except for people like you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 9:16am On Jul 26, 2024
basilico:
Has it occurred to you that Obama has not endorse Kamala yet?
He thinks she won't win.
Obama will endorse her soon.
You are always on the losing side.

Or you still under a rock, coz you haven't felt this enthusiasm yet, though Obama's endorsement is yt to come. Lol

Rapist trump has no chance bro. Get with the times.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 9:18am On Jul 26, 2024
basilico:
He is running on his record as president.
Nobody cares what he does in his private life except for people like you.
Wait, let me laugh this out
😅😁🤣😂😅😂🤣😁😅😂🤣😂😅😂

You fúcking shameless, you magat.

So leave Kamala sexual history alone bro, why is her private life any of your concern?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 9:18am On Jul 26, 2024
cococandy:
Oh yes.


White women came out for Kamala. Let the dumb nairalanders quoting me yesterday about how white women will never support her eat dust.
She still hasn’t replied to my question why she thinks she can speak for all white women. cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by EnlightenedUFO: 9:22am On Jul 26, 2024
basilico:
He is running on his record as president.
Nobody cares what he does in his private life except for people like you.
basilico loco wants us to stop posting pics like this. Private life 🤣🤣

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