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drlateef:
I am not confused. You dont know anything about intersex and pathophysiology behind it. So keep quiet.

brain54:
Okay...

But what about the xy chromosomes present?

Botragelad:
You can be a pregnant woman and have XY chromosome. You know that right? So does it make them any less of a woman?
I can also tell you that sex chromosomes are not the sole determinant of a person's sex or gender. XY chromosomes don't automatically make someone "male". It's complex.

And what about individuals with variations like XXY, XYY, or Turner syndrome? Do they not fit into your "male" or "female" boxes? It's like you've never heard of intersex conditions or the nuances of human biology.

So please kindly explain to me how does not having XY chromosomes automatically disqualify someone from competing in women's sports. I await your response. Thanks!

Love800:
Xy chromosomes does not have the final say.
We have only three genders, which are male with usual reproductive organ, female with the usuall reproductive organ and the one that has both(have forgotten the name).

But the above is what i know.

pocohantas:
Lmao!

Has she been killed in the past by fellow women? She is not trans from this writeup. They say she no be woman. Wetin she come be?

pryme:
The most retarded comparison I have ever heard,
Pregnancy is not the gender.

Botragelad:
What's this human saying?
Mosaicism is the presence of two or more different cell populations within an individual, its not a mutation per se, call it a natural occurrence that can affect anyone. And, I might add, it's not necessarily a disorder, just tells you about the complexity of human biology.

I'm guessing, you're still stuck on hormones and visible sex organs, aren't you? I mentioned estrogen and progesterone to illustrate the nuances of sex determination, not to suggest they're the sole arbiters of gender. And, of course, testosterone is present in females, just as estrogen and progesterone are present in males. It's all about the delicate balance of these hormones.

As for other determinants of gender, I've mentioned chromosomal variations, hormonal influences, etc. But, I suppose, that's too much for you to grasp.
I don't know, but your argument, is a jumbled mess of nonsense!😂

Botragelad:
I've been noticing a load of misinformation floating about, and I think it even made it onto the front page at one point. So, I'm just going to lift this(explanation below) straight from a source, not my own work, mind you and give a brief rundown of the whole thing.




It's quite straightforward, really, for those who can be bothered to read and do their own research without blindly following the crowd of misinformation.

Below, you'll find photos of her from when she was a youngster, as well as her record. And, might I add, she's had a few fight and come out on the losing end, too.

GreatVocalist:
There seems to be a contradiction in your assertion. You said Mosaicism "can happen to anyone", yet it's not a disorder. If it's not a disorder, why isn't it common?

PJtech:
That doesn't change the fact that she has XY chromosomes which makes her 'male'

Males should not be allowed to take part in women games

Lawag3:
She has 9 career loss and only 11 wins by KO so the advantage doesn't even show too much did the other women that beat her have two heads?

PJtech:
Trans are not natural sir... they're man made😂

Botragelad:
You didn't understand it was an illustration!
Are you okay?

Omoawoke:
I’m not off topic bro!

Maybe you should go and live in her shoes and know where it is pinching her. It is easy to say but when you experience it yourself, you will know the pains people like her went through all their lives. They lose self confidence and morale to carry on with life.

Botragelad:
Yes, mosaicism can occur in anyone. It's a natural phenomenon resulting from errors during cell division. But, simply because it's not a disorder, doesn't mean it's a common occurrence.

Think of it like a typo in a script or something. it can happen to anyone, but that doesn't mean every book is full with errors. I would say the human body has mechanisms to correct such mistakes, ensuring they remain rare.

It's common, but its existence doesn't imply a disorder. Your confusion stems from conflating rarity with pathology.

etrange:
Did you even read my comment at all? I did not say anything about trans being natural. The lady in question is not trans. She was born a lady and you’re saying she’s a man cause of her chromosomes and, therefore, shouldn’t participate in women’s sports. If she transitioned her body into a man to match her chromosomes, you’d still say she’s not a man and will never be a man. So I ask, what do you want her to do? Stop existing?

Read the two expressions in bold and be courageous enough to pick a side.

pryme:
Your illustration is a definition.
We are talking DNA here, not some biological condition.
You should be asking yourself if you are Ok.

GreatVocalist:
Okay! But if there are errors during cell division, isn't that a disorder? What are the differences in the events of cell division between a person with mosaicism and a person without it?

If there were 100 entities in the same classification, naturally designed to have the same processes, but then 1 or 2 experience something different from their natural orientation, what would you call that?

etrange:
Did you even read my comment at all? I did not say anything about trans being natural. The lady in question is not trans. She was born a lady and you’re saying she’s a man cause of her chromosomes and, therefore, shouldn’t participate in women’s sports. If she transitioned her body into a man to match her chromosomes, you’d still say she’s not a man and will never be a man. So I ask, what do you want her to do? Stop existing?

Read the two expressions in bold and be courageous enough to pick a side.

Botragelad:
I've been noticing a load of misinformation floating about, and I think it even made it onto the front page at one point. So, I'm just going to lift this(explanation below) straight from a source, not my own work, mind you and give a brief rundown of the whole thing.




It's quite straightforward, really, for those who can be bothered to read and do their own research without blindly following the crowd of misinformation.

Below, you'll find photos of her from when she was a youngster, as well as her record. And, might I add, she's had a few fight and come out on the losing end, too.

Botragelad:
Errors during cell division don't necessarily mean disorder. Mosaicism is let's say a variation, not a deviation from the norm.

Now, pay attention. In normal cell division, genetic material is replicated and distributed evenly. In mosaicism, a random error occurs, resulting in a mixture of cells with different genetic makeup. It's like a slight detour from the usual roadmap, not a complete derailment!

As for your analogy, if 100 entities follow the same process, but 1 or 2 take a different path, I'd call that natural variation, not a disorder. It's like 100 birds flying in formation, but 1 or 2 taking a slight detour due to wind currents. Still flying, still birds, just a minor deviation! Correct?

Stop equating difference with disorder!

Botragelad:
I've been noticing a load of misinformation floating about, and I think it even made it onto the front page at one point. So, I'm just going to lift this(explanation below) straight from a source, not my own work, mind you and give a brief rundown of the whole thing.




It's quite straightforward, really, for those who can be bothered to read and do their own research without blindly following the crowd of misinformation.

Below, you'll find photos of her from when she was a youngster, as well as her record. And, might I add, she's had a few fight and come out on the losing end, too.

Botragelad:
I've been noticing a load of misinformation floating about, and I think it even made it onto the front page at one point. So, I'm just going to lift this(explanation below) straight from a source, not my own work, mind you and give a brief rundown of the whole thing.




It's quite straightforward, really, for those who can be bothered to read and do their own research without blindly following the crowd of misinformation.

Below, you'll find photos of her from when she was a youngster, as well as her record. And, might I add, she's had a few fight and come out on the losing end, too.

Jeboy:
I don't know why we are arguing.

The sports was created in binary like 0 and 1.

Like say 0 for women and 1 for men.

Now in the spirit of fairness, all athletes are classified under one of the above buckets.

The sports didn't envisage where one may be 0 (a woman) but have some traits of 1 (a man) because when this happens and the athlete is classified as a female (0), it becomes unfair to other athletes who are normal female (0).

It's a complex case where we cannot say she is 100% female (0) neither can we say she is 100% male (1).

The issue now is if even if you create a transgender group let's say group 1.5 , there will still be issues because some Trans will be more males than females or more females than males.

I think people with anormally for fairness sake (which is the most important here) should be exempted from physical sports.

Sadly it could be an unfair decision to them too (that is like discriminating their abnormally nature) but it is what it is.

Botragelad:
Look, putting our differences aside for a moment, I'm just trying to tackle this issue head-on. Some people are making a right fuss, saying she's not a woman or something, simply because she's got a masculine appearance, according to them, or had the audacity to punch her opponent hard in a fight. Are you one of these people? Lol

GreatVocalist:
What do you classify as a typical disorder?

DevilsEqual:
How can she be intersex when she doesnt have any male reproductive organ

She just has a hugh testosterone level