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StillDtruth:
Oh you mean you place skate boards and bicycles in the same category as trailers and containers? You just abuse and insalt yourself

Jws and catholics are the biggest bible carrying Liars (trailers and containers) and no reasonable compares a trailer to a bicycle or even a car.



Its like they born you yesterday.

Is attack the problem? No

or that an attack is valid as justified by the multitude of unbiased and reasonable people attacking? Yes.

Everyone is attackable but not every attack is valid.

gohf:
Jesus Christ is Lord!.... but he is not God, indeed he is king and divine but he isn't God.

The basis of true faith is to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and not that Jesus Christ is God.

Matt.16.15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
Matt.16.16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Matt.16.17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

Jesus himself said, John 14:28, "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I."

Demons did not call Jesus God, even though they are lying spirits whose accounts we shouldn't believe Luke.8.28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me!"


Then what about an angel, Gabriel who had visited Daniel who then visited Mary and said to her,
Luke.1.31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS.
Luke.1.32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.


There is the Lord Jesus and the Lord God... Ps.110.1 The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."

Some even say that the name of Jesus which is higher than every other name is higher than the name of the Father. Not even consider that a son bears his father's name.

Let me use an easier translation so we don't speak too many words, what did Paul say
1Cor.15.27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
1Cor.15.28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

This was Paul who Phil.2.9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,... Jesus did not give himself a name, it was God the Father that gave him a name.

When John writes about testing every spirit, prophecy to verify genuine prophets from false prophets he wrote
1John.4.2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
1John.4.3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.


The question now is what can you call a person or a spirit that says Jesus is God, for God is spirit revealed by Jesus himself but we are to believe that Jesus came in the flesh and is currently resurrected in his body at the right hand of the Father.

The devil is an author of confusion that is why those who are confused claim to be spiritual and that things of the spirit cannot be understood even when John, Jesus, Isaiah affirmed that the spirit gives understanding. How can Jesus be at the right-hand of himself.

You who believe such are the reason why the truth of God is held in contempt as the world views you as being to gullible to believe every nonsense you hear. And the true believers see you as a child tossed to and fro by strange doctrines born out of the imaginations of men.


I who have met the real Jesus testify to you that Jesus and the Father are not the same, yes they are one because they are united as a husband and wife are one in unity but not the same in personality or person.

Jesus is the word of God, and he is divine, the very manifestation of God's word full of grace and truth but he is not God the speaker. He himself testifies of God the Father, as the one who sent him, as the one who testifies of him the son, as the one who does the works.

If Jesus is God he would reveal himself as God and not have to humble himself to God who is above and above all, revealing God the father. Jesus is divine because he is like God, having the likeness of God but the in the image of man to bear our sins.

This post is to reveal who Jesus is, the real Jesus sent by the Father, that those who listen and obey him will be saved. This is the spirit of prophecy, the testimony of Jesus. Blessed is he who understands and sees him.

Ken4Christ:
Hebrews 1:8-9.
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. note

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

MaxInDHouse:
So you don't know that Jesus Christ is the one speaking @ Proverbs 8:22-30 because the Bible referred to him as WISDOM shey?

Well see the verse backing up Proverbs 8:22-30 that Jesus is the same person talking:

However, to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is....... the WISDOM of God. 1Corinthians 1:24

Tetraozonaitera:
Janoski I love your points I will respond when I have the time.

In the mean Time, explain what "The Word" means to our readers. You can see I replied at midnight so, I will respond properly to you later. Meanwhile again, explain what "The Word" means.
Shalom

Ken4Christ:
You are quoting scriptures that supports your opinions while ignoring many more others that speaks otherwise.

What about where God the Father called Jesus God?

Hebrews 1:8-9.
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. note

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Greek New testament of Hebrew 1:8-9 is a copy of Psalm 45:6-7.

Oga,read the Hebrew Psalm 45 & understand that verse.
"God is your throne"/ your throne is from God "
Psalm 45:6-7 the Message Bible. New Jerusalem Bible. The Hebrew Masoretic text. Screenshot evidences.
Pastor,Go & verify.

Your Trinitarian mentors doctored Hebrew 1:8 for a purpose: deception & distortion of the scriptures.

Ken4Christ:
God the Father is invisible. Jesus is the physical manifestation of the invisible God. So, if you want to see God, look at Jesus.

Greek New testament of Hebrew 1:8-9 is a copy of Psalm 45:6-7.


John 14:9-10 & John 14:24. John 17:8,21-23 is in your Bible. Please study & receive understanding.

The Trinitarian illusion that both are the same being is very deceptive.

MaxInDHouse:
The two verses are contradictory meaning the translators committed a blunder.

Verse 8 is wrong if God anointed the son the anointed can't be the same person anointing himself.
Anyway your god is mysterious so you can't expect right thinking individuals to agree with the thoughts of your MYSTERIOUS god.

Ken4Christ:
My God is only mysterious to carnal people like you. You don't have the capacity to receive spiritual truths because you don't have the Spirit of God.

Pastor posting GIBBERISH.

Spiritual truth of Psalm 45:6-7 distorted & CHANGED by your Trinitarian mentors @ Hebrew 1:8.

Spiritual truth of 1 Timothy 3:16 & 1 John 5:7 distorted & CHANGED by your Trinitarian mentors.


If you want more evidences, it's very much available.

sonmvayina:
It was Enki that was speaking....Not your fairy tale Jesus....
Enki is the god of wisdom
Inanna(Lucifer) is the goddess of wisdom.
They are both Orisha. ...they both represent law and principle.....within creation.
The universe is controlled by laws. Those laws are personified as orishas or god with a small g....
Jesus is a Greek/Roman myth. So stop mixing Babylonian and Greeco/ Roman myth together..

Ken4Christ:
My God is only mysterious to carnal people like you. You don't have the capacity to receive spiritual truths because you don't have the Spirit of God.

MaxInDHouse:
Good so your god is useless if outsiders can't understand it until they have it's spirit meaning it's the fault of your god if others don't believe it since it's it that determines who believes!

Janosky:
Greek New testament of Hebrew 1:8-9 is a copy of Psalm 45:6-7.

Oga,read the Hebrew Psalm 45 & understand that verse.
"God is your throne"/ your throne is from God "
Psalm 45:6-7 the Message Bible. New Jerusalem Bible. The Hebrew Masoretic text. Screenshot evidences.
Pastor,Go & verify.

Your Trinitarian mentors doctored Hebrew 1:8 for a purpose: deception & distortion of the scriptures.

Trinitarian deception of a pastor.
Greek New testament of Hebrew 1:8-9 is a copy of Psalm 45:6-7.


John 14:9-10 & John 14:24. John 17:8,21-23 is in your Bible. Please study & receive understanding.

The Trinitarian illusion that both are the same being is very deceptive.

Ken4Christ:
The first step is to receive eternal life. And this life is in Jesus. The invitation to receive eternal or everlasting life is not mysterious. It's as simple as learning ABC. Just believe in your heart that Jesus died for you and confess with your mouth that he is your Lord and Saviour. And you will be saved. You will receive eternal life. But you have rejected this simple message of the scripture. Instead you are following the false teachings of Russell and Rutherford. So, you have decided to abide in spiritual death. The end of people who reject us gospel of our Lord Jesus is hell and Lake of fire.

Ken4Christ:
The first step is to receive eternal life. And this life is in Jesus. The invitation to receive eternal or everlasting life is not mysterious. It's as simple as learning ABC. Just believe in your heart that Jesus died for you and confess with your mouth that he is your Lord and Saviour. And you will be saved. You will receive eternal life. But you have rejected this simple message of the scripture. Instead you are following the false teachings of Russell and Rutherford. So, you have decided to abide in spiritual death. The end of people who reject us gospel of our Lord Jesus is hell and Lake of fire.

MaxInDHouse:
You need to know what to say before someone is convinced about your Jesus first otherwise each person already has the god his or her parents worship.
That's why your god is lying to deceive you!

Ken4Christ:
John 3:15-18
15 That WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 6:28-29
28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, THIS IS THE WORK OF GOD, THAT YE BELIEVE ON HIM WHOM HE HATH SENT.

Ken4Christ:
John 3:15-18
15 That WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 6:28-29
28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, THIS IS THE WORK OF GOD, THAT YE BELIEVE ON HIM WHOM HE HATH SENT.

MaxInDHouse:
Don't be a zombie!

You can't use quotations found in a book to verify the authenticity of what is written in the same book.

So wake up from your stupidity the Bible talks about Jesus whom nobody has seen before so instead of quoting the same book think of how to strike a conversation that's meaningful!

Ken4Christ:
So, you don't believe the very words of Jesus? I can support my point from virtually every book in New Testament but even at then, you will still not believe. You have been so brainwashed never to recognize the truth when you see one. God has given you up to a reprobate mind because you willingly reject the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

MaxInDHouse:
If it's Jesus what he said in plain language is:

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life" John 3:16

If you get a million translationse all will reflect the same meaning "destruction" so Jesus never contradicted what God said in the beginning regarding life and death!

Ken4Christ:
Destruction is in hell and Lake of fire. It doesn't mean cessation of existence. Otherwise the beast and the false prophet cast into the Lake fire in Revelation 19;20 would have ceased to exist. But they were acknowledged to still be there after 1,000 years of Jesus reing. And Satan was also cast in there. I have cited these references to you before but you still held on to the lies established by Russell and Rutherford who are obviously both in hell.

Ken4Christ:
Destruction is in hell and Lake of fire. It doesn't mean cessation of existence. Otherwise the beast and the false prophet cast into the Lake fire in Revelation 19;20 would have ceased to exist. But they were acknowledged to still be there after 1,000 years of Jesus reing. And Satan was also cast in there. I have cited these references to you before but you still held on to the lies established by Russell and Rutherford who are obviously both in hell.

MaxInDHouse:
Nothing is alive in hell says God's word! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

So what you're quoting is an ILLUSTRATION!

Kingsempires:
wonder shall never end

Ken4Christ:
Which wonder?

Kingsempires:
People were call their self christians by does'nt believe that Jesuschrist is God.

Ken4Christ:
You reject the revelation of Jesus and uphold the word of a man spoken in ignorance. Who told you that everything you read in Ecclesiastes is divine revelation from God?

Ken4Christ:
The Jehovah Witness are not Christians. They are anti Christ. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light.

Ken4Christ:
You reject the revelation of Jesus and uphold the word of a man spoken in ignorance. Who told you that everything you read in Ecclesiastes is divine revelation from God?