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kkins25:
The one I seeonly TikTok and Aljazeera.. hahaha...

ObaIgwe1:
I think they all share similar position on Israel... It's just that Shapiro is a Jew and apart from some of his past comments that can be used against him in an election, Kamala is also married to another Jew. So you will have a Jew on Kamala's bed and another one beside him at work in the white house.

I believe Kamala would have reached out to Shapiro and get his understanding.

But I kinda also like the idea of sending Trump team back to square one. They have done a lot of research and were ready and prepare to attack Shapiro, thinking he would be picked... Now they are more shocked

AmazonTopaz:
Buda, has the Hamas ministry of Health in Gaza given you the death toll figures of Hamas fighters, can you answer why it is only women and children making the death toll?

budaatum:
Its not going to be easy for you to convince me that land that my great grandfather inherited from his father and that my father inherited from my grandfather and willed to me was never my land because I never called it Palestine.

We grew olives on the land in question. And if you knew anything about ancient olive trees you'd know it does not fruit in the generation that planted it.

But you are going to forgive me for not labouring the point with you. Bemeruca exhausted me already with the argument you are starting all over again here and I don't have the desire to repeat myself.

AmazonTopaz:
Aljazeera na Qatar propaganda wing.

Clowns.

IjeBos:
You are assuming the intent of people who are protesting. Instead why don't you listen to why they say they are protesting. Some of the people protesting were Jewish.

Our current support of Israel is no longer in the US best interest but we do it anyway. That is the reason the CIA, Pentagon and State Department employees were up in arms over what has been going on recently. They have a real fear of negative blowback.

Does it look like what is going on in Israel is in even Israel's best interests? Sometime friends have to be able to tell friends they are fuxing up

budaatum:
Shame on you Amazon for not bothering to check other news networks for whatever you hear on Aljazeera, or you might have found what was confirmed.

AmazonTopaz:
I am talking about the left's attack on him.

If you are active on Twitter you will see it.

budaatum:
It is not "only women and children making the death toll", and nor must I get my information from "the Hamas ministry of Health".

There's news being reported from Palestine for those who wish to be informed.

bemeruca:
Since when did you start talking something nice about Israel. I'd like to learn what chabged.

budaatum:
Shame on you Amazon for not bothering to check other news networks for whatever you hear on Aljazeera, or you might have found what was confirmed.

AmazonTopaz:
I was once Pro-Palestine years ago partly because I didn't read these things. I have always liked Israel though but called it an apartheid state.

When I started researching my notion changed and what Hamas did on October 7th and Palestinians celebrating it completely changed me.

There is no justification for it, neither is there one defending Hamas. I began to despise the far-left after that. What Israel is doing is what any other country will do.

It is only a problem because they are Jews.

IjeBos:
Huh?

bemeruca:
AmazonTopaz is yet another person schooling you on this.

The original Palestinians are the Jews and not the Arabs. This is a fact you cannot counter

kkins25:
Are you saying the high caliber professors from Harvard et al., are dumb because they are anti antisemitist?

kkins25:
Are you saying the high caliber professors from Harvard et al., are dumb because they are anti antisemitist?

kkins25:
Are there only jews in Isreal?

budaatum:
Its not going to be easy for you to convince me that land that my great grandfather inherited from his father and that my father inherited from my grandfather and willed to me was never my land because I never called it Palestine.

We grew olives on the land in question. And if you knew anything about ancient olive trees you'd know it does not fruit in the generation that planted it.

But you are going to forgive me for not labouring the point with you. Bemeruca exhausted me already with the argument you are starting all over again here and I don't have the desire to repeat myself.

AmazonTopaz:
Ok from your source what is the death toll of Hamas terrorists please direct me there I want to see it.

budaatum:
You should go ask the Israelis who claim they killed Hamas terrorists how many Hamas terrorists they have killed.

35,091 Palestinians have been killed, and 78,827 were injured, and I believe these figures are on the conservative end.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1422308/palestinian-territories-israel-number-fatalities-and-injuries-caused-by-the-israel-and-hamas-war/

kkins25:
Are there only jews in Isreal?

AmazonTopaz:
If we are to go by your first sentence then the Jews have more claim to the land then. Afterall History records that Jews lived in that land and the Romans drove them out and they fled.

AmazonTopaz:
Oh, I listen to what they are saying and I read their placards and that is why I cannot ally with them. Seeing them calling for the annihilation of Jews and justifying terrorism God forbid I cannot ally with a people who only hate bloodshed because they are losing but will see nothing wrong when it is done to Israelis.

It is in America's interest to support Israel.
It is in Israel's best interest just like any other country to defeat any terrorists organisation that threatens its sovereignty.
The Jewish state must exist it owes no nation how it defends its existence because no nation will stay silent and let terrorists kill its people.

No nation not even this yeye country they call Nigeria will allow it.

IjeBos:
Ok, can you point to a few examples of some of those college students with 'placards' that are "calling for the annihilation of Jews"?

And how do you define 'terrorist' that Israel should "defeat any terrorists organisation"?

Lastly, there was a report out from a respectable agency that the true toll of deaths in Palestine is 186,000 or more, not the 38,000 that is being reported. Are you comfortable with that? Why?

Question. Do you believe your views on Israel are impacted by your Christian views?

bemeruca:
Uninformed

budaatum:
Romans drove them out when exactly? And how long has that land been handed down in my own family that Jews Romans supposedly drove out can now come and claim it from me?

Its complex is my point. When I had this discussion with the stupid idiot, it began with native Americans claiming their land back from white settlers. After all, they, the native Americans, owned it first, and if the white settlers want to continue owning it they should at least pay todays going price, right?

IjeBos:
Ok, can you point to a few examples of some of those college students with 'placards' that are "calling for the annihilation of Jews"?

And how do you define 'terrorist' that Israel should "defeat any terrorists organisation"?

Lastly, there was a report out from a respectable agency that the true toll of deaths in Palestine is 186,000 or more, not the 38,000 that is being reported. Are you comfortable with that? Why?

Question. Do you believe your views on Israel are impacted by your Christian views?

AmazonTopaz:
I agree that Netanyahu doesn't want this war to end either way with Hamas in power the blood shed will always continue unfortunately.

They need to read a book to know that the Hamas controlled ministry of Health in Gaza inflates fatality counts and any info they give you must be very scrutinized.

It is in Gaza that we get to know that only women and children are dying from this war and not the terrorists. They conflate everything together to deceive folks like you. They have never released death toll of Hamas fighters yet we know that they are thousands of them, give me a fvcking break.
Only women and children cannot be dying in Gaza.

basilico:
My last born is wiser than this fool. She is 8 years old.

AmazonTopaz:
@bold, Israel literally compromised to give East Jerusalem under Ehud Barak that was a big compromise. Israel has mostly agreed to every peace plan that I know of the PLO under Arafat rejected every deal. Every of them, that is not a people that want peace they don't want Israel to exist and unless they embrace peace this unfortunate war will continue that is why Shapiro was right in that 1993 article.

Also, I stand by what I said those students I see on TV defending Hamas or being pro-Palestine are dumb and ill informed or those schools are not sending their best. They are getting their information on TikTok and SAT scores are not the only measure for intelligence. Ted Cruz, Hawley, Alito and Thomas even dumbo Kavanaugh went to those schools.

LordAdam16:
Right! You want to split hairs about the exact number of kids that have been blown up.
Thousands of kids in a stateless occupied territory have been murdered.
I don't think it is relevant to certify that the number is 5,000, 10,000, or 15,000.
Too many are dead. That is our macabre reality.

We both agree that Netanyahu does not want this carnage to end.
Virtually every government in the West, besides the likes of Germany, want a ceasefire.
There are near daily protests in Israel requesting a ceasefire tied to the release of hostages.

Under these conditions, I do not see why you are comfortable tarring anyone who opposes this homicidal orgy as holding extremist views or unknowledgeable.
There is nothing extremist about saying, stop killing children. It is really that simple for many of us.
Stop Netanyahu from sacrificing Palestinian children to prolong his doomed political career.

Israel has violently snatched its pound of flesh.
I and many others believe they have crossed a line.
You clearly do not think so. You think the ratio is still morally tenable.
Do not discount our position in a democracy.
I say this because you've used colorful language to describe or label those who have a lower tolerance threshold for Israel's barbarism.

-Lord