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Kobojunkieee:
1. The book was conjured in a human mind and written by a human being. It clearly indicates context and the fact that it belongs in fiction space. You, the reader are free to apply whatever particular delusion you please to its contents course, but that does not mean your interpretation should hold sway over the reality of things though for others.

2. Yes, as a matter of fact, the humans who authored each of the books contained in your Bible made clear the context and space to which their writings belonged. That much they made clear from thousands of years ago. The evidence is stated in the book by the authors. We may not know their actual names but we know their intentions as stated in their books. In the same way, the human author of the Harry Porter books made their intents clear, the authors of the books contained in the Bible also did.

1. Harry Potter is with certainty a fiction. So you can't also decide the right way to use it

2. What evidence was stated in the book by the authors?
Do you also know that the Bible has undergone hundreds.of translations where several meanings have been lost? Even some people also believe it's a fiction. And you cant even invalidate their belief
In summary what you believe the Bible said may have also been interpreted from the original manuscript. So again, can you prove with 100% certainly that what you know about the Bible is factual?

Zionmdde:
1. Did you hear the daddy GO mention any specific candidate? Answer that with a proof. Can you also mention with proof the will of the Daddy GO? With exact names mentioned?
2. I have asked before, in what way has the church been used to impede on people's happiness. Evidence here should be objective and If you want to go subjective then point me to where the validity and reliability of your assertions has been tested
3. False promises? If the man's promises were based on the Bible in any way then you can't call it fraud. If it's fraud many pastors should have be prosecuted for telling all their members that none of them will die this year and yet some died
↪As for the false labels, if it was labeled miracle water, you need to proof what a miracle is before you can say you are certain the water isn't. What are the primary ingredients of an original miracle water?

Anyone who knows them knows well their candidate of choice. That much has never been hidden. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

2. I have severally made myself clear on this so I don't know why you think feigning ignorance even at this point in the conversation will help your argument.

3. Your private delusions regarding what is written in the book called the Bible do not grant you the freedom to commit fraud against others. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

4. The reason wey you dey mouth off has to do with the fact that the Nigerian system— particularly the criminal justice system— remains fked up, thanks to the efforts of your religious gods of men in Nigeria.

Zionmdde:
1. Harry Potter is with certainty a fiction. So you can't also decide the right way to use it
2. What evidence was stated in the book by the authors? Do you also know that the Bible has undergone hundreds.of translations where several meanings have been lost? Even some people also believe it's a fiction. And you cant even invalidate their belief
In summary what you believe the Bible said may have also been interpreted from the original manuscript.
3. So again, can you prove with 100% certainly that what you know about the Bible is factual?

1. Again, the book, Harry Potter, was conjured in a human mind and written by a human being. It indicates context and the fact that it belongs in fiction space. You, the reader are free to apply whatever particular delusion you please to its contents course, but that does not mean your interpretation should hold sway over the reality of things though for others.

2. Again, the authors of each of the books contained in your bible, regardless of the many translations each book has undergone(some in over 2000 years), clearly detailed their intentions and the context of their writings. If you have never read each book from the view of the author for yourself, I suggest you do so.

3.

Quest7777:
Lets get this clear:

-Prophet Fufeyin manufactures soap,
-sends the soap to NAFDAC for certification,
-NAFDAC certifies the soap based on the listed ingredients, that it is safe for use by Nigerians,
-Fufeyin prays over the soap and presumably impacts healing powers into the soap,
-Fufeyin puts up the soap for sale,
-Nigerians who believe Fufeyin has impacted healing powers into the soap buy the soap.

-VDM calls out Fufeyin as a Scammer
-Fufeyin sues him to court for spoiling business for him, restraining him from further speaking against the miracle soap.

My opinion:
*Nafdac only certified the soap as ordinary soap not as miracle soap so Nafdac has nothing to answer

*Court can not convict Fufeyin as a Scammer. I have never seen any pastor jailed on account of failed religious belief or prophecy.
Also it will mean all these pastors who sell Olive Oil as Anointing Oil would have been convicted.

*VDM should be careful. He stands the risk of being convicted for Defamation, cyberbullying or some other criminal charges.

NAFDAC certify products based on QUALITY, SAFETY and EFFICACY.


You only consider ,one aspect of certification- SAFETY (which means the soap will not harm the users) but didn't consider the two other aspects.

The Prophet is misleading people by advertising a soap as Miracle soap that can cure diseases/health conditions

Kobojunkieee:
Anyone who knows them knows well their candidate of choice. That much has never been hidden. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

2. I have severally made myself clear on this so I don't know why you think feigning ignorance even at this point in the conversation will help your argument.

3. Your private delusions regarding what is written in the book called the Bible do not grant you the freedom to commit fraud against others. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

4. The reason wey you dey mouth off has to do with the fact that the Nigerian system— particularly the criminal justice system— remains fked up, thanks to the efforts of your religious gods of men in Nigeria.

1. Objective evidence bro Objective evidence. In the intellectual field we put objective facts in front. Facts that have no contrasting interpretations. Prove their candidates

2. Can you prove objectively that those are delusions? If you call a pastor a fraudster, you will likely lose in court. Because you will not be able to prove that the person he said "God bless you to, was not blessed". I think the court is in a better position to define what a fraud is. And up to date they haven't declared any promises made on the basis of the Bible a fraud. So you know better than the custodians of the law?
3. What is obtainable in churches here is obtainable in churches abroad. Pastors from here still go to USA, UK etc and claim miracles and they are not arrested . Am not one of those who like to claim thst everything is wrong with a black man
If my argument sound religious to you, then you have a long way to go with understanding objective arguments or you are just being myopic
I have not said the miracle water is authentic, neither have I said pastors are not fake. I have only asked you that claim you know with 100% certainty that they are fake to prove it

Ohh lest I forget, the Bible also said "ye are gods"

Quest7777:
Lets get this clear:
-Prophet Fufeyin manufactures soap,
-sends the soap to NAFDAC for certification,
-NAFDAC certifies the soap based on the listed ingredients, that it is safe for use by Nigerians,
-Fufeyin prays over the soap and presumably impacts healing powers into the soap,
-Fufeyin puts up the soap for sale,
-Nigerians who believe Fufeyin has impacted healing powers into the soap buy the soap.\
-VDM calls out Fufeyin as a Scammer
-Fufeyin sues him to court for spoiling business for him, restraining him from further speaking against the miracle soap.
My opinion:
*Nafdac only certified the soap as ordinary soap not as miracle soap so Nafdac has nothing to answer
*Court can not convict Fufeyin as a Scammer. I have never seen any pastor jailed on account of failed religious belief or prophecy.
Also it will mean all these pastors who sell Olive Oil as Anointing Oil would have been convicted.
*VDM should be careful. He stands the risk of being convicted for Defamation, cyberbullying or some other criminal charges.

The reason you have never seen this is because of the broken legal system in Nigeria.

Quest7777:
Lets get this clear:

-Prophet Fufeyin manufactures soap,
-sends the soap to NAFDAC for certification,
-NAFDAC certifies the soap based on the listed ingredients, that it is safe for use by Nigerians,
-Fufeyin prays over the soap and presumably impacts healing powers into the soap,
-Fufeyin puts up the soap for sale,
-Nigerians who believe Fufeyin has impacted healing powers into the soap buy the soap.

-VDM calls out Fufeyin as a Scammer
-Fufeyin sues him to court for spoiling business for him, restraining him from further speaking against the miracle soap.

My opinion:
*Nafdac only certified the soap as ordinary soap not as miracle soap so Nafdac has nothing to answer

*Court can not convict Fufeyin as a Scammer. I have never seen any pastor jailed on account of failed religious belief or prophecy.
Also it will mean all these pastors who sell Olive Oil as Anointing Oil would have been convicted.

*VDM should be careful. He stands the risk of being convicted for Defamation, cyberbullying or some other criminal charges.

You're just contradicting yourself

Sonnobax15:

Honestly, just take a look at the people VDM is risking his life fighting for trying to defend the obviously fake prophet above . This clearly speaks volume of how the mind of an average Nigerian has been brainwashed by these so-called MOG.......

I don't believe these people defending prophet Jeremiah are being emotional,even tho I don't wanna insult anyone but I think they aren't normal at all.

Who send am work?

We want him to be disgraced without repair

Same thing we want for all of them, fake miracle con artists

voicemail956:
Pastor Jeremiah will Be Disgraced and Rubbished in the Court Of Law if his Case Proceeds to the Court

"Pastor Jeremiah Omoto Fufeyin was very Wrong for suing Activist VeryDarkMan he Should Drop His N1 Billion Lawsuit against VDM I have consulted with 4 of My friends who are all Barristers and Lawyers and they confirmed to me that Pastor Jeremiah will Be Disgraced and Rubbished in the Court Of Law if his Case Proceeds to the Court, Because with The way VeryDarkMan is taking this Case and the Evidence he has Gathered, The Prophet will lose Woofully In Court" - Nigerian man reveals advises the Prophet to remove his Miracle water and soap from wherever he is selling it with immediate Effect

Watch video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vmcpJYSdQs

The lawyers you have consulted or spoken with are all roadside lawyers

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

So people selling fake or substandard products should be allowed to sell right?

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Lobe this maturity

SmartPolician:
Who send am work?

. Sane Nigerians nai send am .

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Do you know how many people have died from fake hope. Do you know it is same thing like offering someone a fake medicine for an ailment. Many people have died from not visiting hospital in the name of miracles

Quest7777:
Lets get this clear:

-Prophet Fufeyin manufactures soap,
-sends the soap to NAFDAC for certification,
-NAFDAC certifies the soap based on the listed ingredients, that it is safe for use by Nigerians,
-Fufeyin prays over the soap and presumably impacts healing powers into the soap,
-Fufeyin puts up the soap for sale,
-Nigerians who believe Fufeyin has impacted healing powers into the soap buy the soap.

-VDM calls out Fufeyin as a Scammer
-Fufeyin sues him to court for spoiling business for him, restraining him from further speaking against the miracle soap.

My opinion:
*Nafdac only certified the soap as ordinary soap not as miracle soap so Nafdac has nothing to answer

*Court can not convict Fufeyin as a Scammer. I have never seen any pastor jailed on account of failed religious belief or prophecy.
Also it will mean all these pastors who sell Olive Oil as Anointing Oil would have been convicted.

*VDM should be careful. He stands the risk of being convicted for Defamation, cyberbullying or some other criminal charges.

Exactly my point with some law students here ..
I am even seeing it as a marketing strategy to sell the soap and water to the masses ...

As he critize the soap and water the more it gets known

Timmi:
↪ The lawyers you have consulted or spoken with are all roadside lawyers

The kind of lawyers Nigeria needs to reboot the Nigerian legal system which has called into the blackhole of corruption and one-way thinking.

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Na wetin I dey talk oooo. D social media don bring see finish oooo. Jeremiah and VDM nor b mate ooo.
Everybody know how Ada JEsus end up. Everybody dey clap for VDM now. When ee go set, Dem nor go fit save am. I nor know who send VDm To fight dat battle. A battle for the lord

voicemail956:
Pastor Jeremiah will Be Disgraced and Rubbished in the Court Of Law if his Case Proceeds to the Court

"Pastor Jeremiah Omoto Fufeyin was very Wrong for suing Activist VeryDarkMan he Should Drop His N1 Billion Lawsuit against VDM I have consulted with 4 of My friends who are all Barristers and Lawyers and they confirmed to me that Pastor Jeremiah will Be Disgraced and Rubbished in the Court Of Law if his Case Proceeds to the Court, Because with The way VeryDarkMan is taking this Case and the Evidence he has Gathered, The Prophet will lose Woofully In Court" - Nigerian man reveals advises the Prophet to remove his Miracle water and soap from wherever he is selling it with immediate Effect

Watch video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vmcpJYSdQs

That's assumes that the vdm guy can also hire lawyers of equal calibre.

It is not about being right it is about do you have the resources to match the person suing you.

As an example Donald Trump is known for not paying contractors who worked for him fully. And they could do nothing because suing him would have cost money they did not have.

OJ Simpson hired a dream team and beat the rap. A regular guy would have seen prison

Unless those lawyers represent vdm pro Bono, his being in the right means nothing

Them change am for am

Quest7777:
Lets get this clear:

-Prophet Fufeyin manufactures soap,
-sends the soap to NAFDAC for certification,
-NAFDAC certifies the soap based on the listed ingredients, that it is safe for use by Nigerians,
-Fufeyin prays over the soap and presumably impacts healing powers into the soap,
-Fufeyin puts up the soap for sale,
-Nigerians who believe Fufeyin has impacted healing powers into the soap buy the soap.

-VDM calls out Fufeyin as a Scammer
-Fufeyin sues him to court for spoiling business for him, restraining him from further speaking against the miracle soap.

My opinion:
*Nafdac only certified the soap as ordinary soap not as miracle soap so Nafdac has nothing to answer

*Court can not convict Fufeyin as a Scammer. I have never seen any pastor jailed on account of failed religious belief or prophecy.
Also it will mean all these pastors who sell Olive Oil as Anointing Oil would have been convicted.

*VDM should be careful. He stands the risk of being convicted for Defamation, cyberbullying or some other criminal charges.

TossTos:
↪ Exactly my point with some law students here .. I am even seeing it as a marketing strategy to sell the soap and water to the masses ... As he critize the soap and water the more it gets known

Lying is not a marketing strategy but fraud, and yes, you can be sued for it! Nigerians do not sue because they do not even understand how to go about such things but if they did, most of these so-called marketing strategies would be no more!

Court no dey work with faith but physical evidence.....
Like you take person go court tell court say, the person use juju keeee your person.
JUJU is not known to law, like your faith is not known to law

Dem go tell prophet, make he come prove how him products dey do all weertin him talk say he dey do.
Na NAFDAC wey come enter the matter be another problem.

Prophet don go drag NAFDAC enter wertin Dem no fit explain.
Prophet go explain tire
EXPLANATION GO FINISH FOR HIM MOUTH

Kobojunkieee:
1. As long as they are employed by the political class to destroy the nation, a connection exists between the two groups. By the way, the vast majority of them are poor and illiterate. That there are some billionaires, and professors, caught in that net does not and cannot change this fact.

2. We have people who allow themselves to be used as tools against the progress of an entire nation. That is a problem. Any other life than one where they are tools in the hands of those who defraud them and generations after them of a decent future would suffice.

3. No one needs to know 100% of life to live a decent life. Making the right choices in one's life is all that is necessary. Steering clear of choices that would lead one into being used as a tool against the progress of others is not hard for the "Almajiri's/Sheeples of the South"

Learn something about life. Your opinion is not the only valid one. That you don't believe in it does not make it wrong. It is foolishness to believe you are right and millions of people that attend many of these churches are the foolish ones. Stop thinking that way. If you are that wise , you won't be faceless on this forum, hiding behind your phone to accuse millions of being defrauded by the pastors.
You don't need to believe in it. I also don't believe in some of the teachings. I am just not foolish enough to belive they are all fools and I am the wise one because I don't believe in what they believed in.

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in . Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Going by your skewed opinion, VDM is then right cause he bought the products and they didn't work

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

If he is a pastor?

Is he not claiming to be messenger of Jesus?

So, have you read where Jesus stated that freely ye receive and freely you give?

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

likewise to people selling drugs and all other fake goods that is not nafdac approved right

Kobojunkieee:
The kind of lawyers Nigeria needs to reboot the Nigerian legal system which has called into the blackhole of corruption and one-way thinking.

I pity you, so the charge-and-bail non-credentialed lawyers are what Nigeria need?

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

You be mumu!

Quest7777:
Lets get this clear:

-Prophet Fufeyin manufactures soap,
-sends the soap to NAFDAC for certification,
-NAFDAC certifies the soap based on the listed ingredients, that it is safe for use by Nigerians,
-Fufeyin prays over the soap and presumably impacts healing powers into the soap,
-Fufeyin puts up the soap for sale,
-Nigerians who believe Fufeyin has impacted healing powers into the soap buy the soap.

-VDM calls out Fufeyin as a Scammer
-Fufeyin sues him to court for spoiling business for him, restraining him from further speaking against the miracle soap.

My opinion:
*Nafdac only certified the soap as ordinary soap not as miracle soap so Nafdac has nothing to answer

*Court can not convict Fufeyin as a Scammer. I have never seen any pastor jailed on account of failed religious belief or prophecy.
Also it will mean all these pastors who sell Olive Oil as Anointing Oil would have been convicted.

*VDM should be careful. He stands the risk of being convicted for Defamation, cyberbullying or some other criminal charges.

Oga, just shut the fvck up!

You're a very dull and unexposed cretin!

Timmi:
↪ I pity you, so the charge-and-bail non/credentialed lawyers are what Nigeria need?

See this one! 😂😂😂😂😂

TossTos:
Exactly my point with some law students here ..
I am even seeing it as a marketing strategy to sell the soap and water to the masses ...

As he critize the soap and water the more it gets known

So VDM bought the products as seen in his videos based on what the prophet said the products will do and the products did not worked as expected.
CAN'T VDM SUE MR PROPHET FOR SCAMMING and SALES OF FAKE PRODUCTS BASED ON WHAT IT WAS ADVERTISED FOR......??
BECAUSE HE ALSO HAVE EVIDENCES.
WOOOOOOOOOOO
PROPHET DON BUY MARKET.
PROPHET DON REACH BUS STOP
VDM GET DEJI ADEYANJU AND OTHER OGBONGE HUMAN RIGHT LAWYERS FOR HIM BACK
UNA THINK SAY, HE JUST DEY TALK