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Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by StillDtruth: 7:13pm On Aug 12, 2024
Kingsempires:
don't be angry for my question; islam,Jw,etc are not enemies for God. So is it wrong for the way they believe God ?
If you do not know that islam jws are enemies of God then you don't know God and have never read the bible.
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Kingsempires(op): 7:17pm On Aug 12, 2024
StillDtruth:
If you do not know that islam jws are enemies of God then you don't know God and have never read the bible.
cool
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by StillDtruth: 7:20pm On Aug 12, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
@Kingsempires
You can see what i told you, where were they when you asked the question?)
See proof of jw, madness?
Christians would tell him to read the bible to see for himself and come to his own opinion but devils like you come to tell him what you want him to think.

And that is why we did not answer him;not to talk of the fact that he is catholic, the very people who raised up the idea of trinity.
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Kingsempires(op): 7:20pm On Aug 12, 2024
Kingsempires:
cool
Like i said idon't come here to fight anybody i only need explaination
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Michael547(m): 7:30pm On Aug 12, 2024
StillDtruth:
See proof of jw, madness?
Christians would tell him to read the bible to see for himself and come to his own opinion but devils like you come to tell him what you want him to think.

And that is why we did not answer him;not to talk of the fact that he is catholic, the very people who raised up the idea of trinity.
Is it wrong to direct someone who asks a question to a verse in the bible?
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:39pm On Aug 12, 2024
Kingsempires:
arh!! Arh!!, na wetin ?
Guy you need to know what is happening around you.

I have read your comments several times and discovered that you love to see all those claiming Christians relate like brothers and sisters but that's impossible because Jesus said there are two categories of domestics in the world regarding spiritual families, there are SHEEP and there are GOATS.

Both aren't meant for the same destination {Matthew 7:13-14; 25:34, 40, 46} so there is perpetual enmity between the camp of SHEEP and that of GOATS {Genesis 3:15} the GOATS belongs to their father and initiator of that camp {John 8:44} while the SHEEP belongs to their spiritual father who bought them with his blood {Isaiah 9:6} so while the GOATS don't know for real who their lord is {John 4:22} the SHEEP knows their owner! John 10:26-28

So don't be surprised there is ENMITY going on regarding spirituality even though our Master, Lord and King warned us not to use hurtful words against anyone {Matthew 10:16} we will never ever welcome those who are on the opposition camp! 2John 10-11

I want you to know that now! smiley
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by MightySparrow: 7:45pm On Aug 12, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You and who are together?

I have told you a thousand times that you and i aren't on the same page, have you seen Michael547 and i disagreeing with each other?
Well that shows Michael547 and i are together in the spirit but as for you i don't know you so next time don't quote me! smiley
Hahahaha. We are together, only that I don't subject myself to the teachings of JWs. I am a trinitarian. The God that does not go on holiday. Ever faithful, ever sure.
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:51pm On Aug 12, 2024
MightySparrow:
I don't subject myself to the teachings of JWs.
With this you and i aren't on the same page though i know how desperate you are to be on the same page with me but unfortunately you can never ever be except you subject yourself to all the teachings of JWs.

Do you see why you and i can never ever be together now?

So you must stand with your fellow scoffers who are against God's organization! Psalms 1:1smiley
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:56pm On Aug 12, 2024
Michael547:
Is it wrong to direct someone who asks a question to a verse in the bible?
That one is empty headed all he does is run into a meaningful conversation and start throwing tantrums with abusive speeches and curses claiming he is holy! cheesy
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by MightySparrow: 8:02pm On Aug 12, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
With this you and i aren't on the same page though i know how desperate you are to be on the same page with me but unfortunately you can never ever be except you subject yourself to all the teachings of JWs.

Do you see why you and i can never ever be together now?

So you must stand with your fellow scoffers who are against God's organization! Psalms 1:1smiley
All these years I have been reading JW's publications from the Book of My Bible Stories ( colours book full of baits to attract children to delusion) to the last one I can lay my hands on. I find all of them toxic.

So , no desperation at all.

Your teachings provokes laughter whenever I read them.
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:04pm On Aug 12, 2024
MightySparrow:
Your teachings provokes laughter whenever I read them.
Good!
So we can never ever be on the same page! smiley
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by BitterPost: 8:06pm On Aug 12, 2024
Kingsempires:
So this is were it confuses. Is it that the Bible is saying two different things. This is what the Muslims, atheist or some other religions will Said that the Bible is full of contradiction.
Learn how to eat meat and stop looking for milk.

You are the one confusing yourself.

Question :Does the bible have scriptures describing Jesus christ as a God (with capital G) ?
Answer : Yes

Question: Despite being a God, (with capital G) did Jesus ever equate himself with the father?
Answer : NO.

Proof :
"You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I." (John 14:28)
Question : Why is Jesus Described as a God, with capital G?
Answer :
"For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together." Colossians 1:16-17
Question : Why did Jesus say I and the father are ONE?
Answer : The context of John 10:30 is important for understanding the significance of Jesus’ words. In the preceding verses, Jesus speaks about His role as the Good Shepherd, who gives eternal life to His sheep and protects them. He says that no one can snatch His sheep out of His hand or the Father's hand.This leads to the declaration that He and the Father are one, reinforcing their joint sovereignty and care over believers.
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:31pm On Aug 12, 2024
BitterPost:
Learn how to eat meat and stop looking for milk.

You are the one confusing yourself.

Question :Does the bible have scriptures describing Jesus christ as a God (with capital G) ?
Answer : Yes

Question: Despite being a God, (with capital G) did Jesus ever equate himself with the father?
Answer : NO.

Proof :


Question : Why is Jesus Described as a God, with capital G?
Answer :


Question : Why did Jesus say I and the father are ONE?
Answer : The context of John 10:30 is important for understanding the significance of Jesus’ words. In the preceding verses, Jesus speaks about His role as the Good Shepherd, who gives eternal life to His sheep and protects them. He says that no one can snatch His sheep out of His hand or the Father's hand.This leads to the declaration that He and the Father are one, reinforcing their joint sovereignty and care over believers.
So in a nutshell are you for or against the Trinity?

And which of the churches taught you this?

I hope it's not JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES? cheesy
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by BitterPost: 8:36pm On Aug 12, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell are you for or against the Trinity?

And which of the churches taught you this?

I hope it's not JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES? cheesy
This JW slave stop quoting me please. Go and play with your apostate friends. grin
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:41pm On Aug 12, 2024
BitterPost:
This JW slave stop quoting me please. Go and play with your apostate friends. grin
You first mentioned JWs on this forum so why are you scared of being called out! cheesy
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by BitterPost: 8:41pm On Aug 12, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You first mentioned JWs on this forum so why are you scared of being called out! cheesy
grin
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:45pm On Aug 12, 2024
BitterPost:
grin
SILENCED! Isaiah 54:17 smiley
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by BitterPost: 8:47pm On Aug 12, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
SILENCED! Isaiah 54:17 smiley
grin
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky: 8:54pm On Aug 12, 2024
BitterPost:
Learn how to eat meat and stop looking for milk.

You are the one confusing yourself.

Question :Does the bible have scriptures describing Jesus christ as a God (with capital G) ?
Answer : Yes

Question: Despite being a God, (with capital G) did Jesus ever equate himself with the father?
Answer : NO.

Proof :


Question : Why is Jesus Described as a God, with capital G?
Answer :


Question : Why did Jesus say I and the father are ONE?
Answer : The context of John 10:30 is important for understanding the significance of Jesus’ words. In the preceding verses, Jesus speaks about His role as the Good Shepherd, who gives eternal life to His sheep and protects them. He says that no one can snatch His sheep out of His hand or the Father's hand.This leads to the declaration that He and the Father are one, reinforcing their joint sovereignty and care over believers.
MUMU Post.
You are TWISTING the holy scriptures

Chai !!!!!
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:56pm On Aug 12, 2024
Janosky:
MUMU Post.
You are TWISTING the holy scriptures
Chai !!!!!
He knows everything except the church that is practicing what Jesus taught! cheesy
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by BitterPost: 9:06pm On Aug 12, 2024
Janosky:
MUMU Post.
You are TWISTING the holy scriptures

Chai !!!!!
You didnt like the post. Its okay.

Its a bitterpost. Truth is bitter. grin

Its not meant for cowards. wink
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:09pm On Aug 12, 2024
When God promised:

Look! My servants (Jehovah's Witnesses) will shout joyfully because of the good condition of the heart, But you will cry out because of the pain of heart And you will wail because of a broken spirit. Isaiah 65:14

Then someone is always BITTER in his heart.

@Kingsempires take note! wink
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by StillDtruth: 9:10pm On Aug 12, 2024
Michael547:
Is it wrong to direct someone who asks a question to a verse in the bible?
In this case yes. He is catholic so he should know where and how and why it originated
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Michael547(m): 9:11pm On Aug 12, 2024
StillDtruth:
In this case yes. He is catholic so he should know where and how and why it originated
If you think he knows, then why is he asking questions?
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Janosky:
Steep:
It is not a contradiction. God is one in essence but three in person.
Allah in the Koran wants to be more than one person badly that he keeps using "we" everywhere. Again Muslims do not know the meaning of tawheed they say tawheed mean Allah is only one but tawheed actually means a unification of many things.
In the old testament God use the word "us" to describe himself.
.

Oga Steep, your own Bible did not say that the Most High Yahweh is "US." Not in Genesis.
"Himself" can't be 3 distinct persons you are worshipping, according to your doctrine.
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by StillDtruth: 9:16pm On Aug 12, 2024
Michael547:
If you think he knows, then why is he asking questions?
Ask him!
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:17pm On Aug 12, 2024
StillDtruth:
Ask him!
cheesy

Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Michael547(m): 9:18pm On Aug 12, 2024
StillDtruth:
Ask him!
I should ask you cause you seem to know more than the person who is asking and the person who is answering.
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by StillDtruth: 9:20pm On Aug 12, 2024
Michael547:
I should ask you cause you seem to know more than the person who is asking and the person who is answering.
My knowing is my own, so if you want to know what he knows, ask him.
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:21pm On Aug 12, 2024
Kingsempires:
In Christianity, they believe in the Trinity to be God divinity this is the proof from the bible that makes the belief of the Trinity


Isaiah 9;6,col 2:9,1 cor 8;16,2cor13:14, 2cor13;14,joh 10;30,luke1;35,mat 28;19,mat3;16-17,john14;16-17 e.t.c


These chapters and verses I quoted proofs the Trinity of God is Biblical.


But there is also places in the Bible that proof that Yahweh/Jehovah is the one and only God places like;


Isaiah 45;5-12,mark 10:17-18,john; 5:30,john 5;44 Exodus 20;3,deu 4;35, mark 12;29-34, Romans 3;30,1chron 17;20, Psalm 86;10 e.t.c


So this is were it confuses.Is it that the Bible is saying two different things.This is what the Muslims, atheist or some other religions will Said that the Bible is full of contradiction. So my fellow Christian can anyone fully explained the holy Trinity for does who those not really understand about Trinity and why is there difference explanation between this chapters I wrote above.


Please am not against anybody, anybody who have knowledge about this chapters should please explain the way others can understand it
Whether you are for or against in this discussion is not relevant. The most important thing is, do you have the mindset of Christ? You can be for the Trinity and not actually a believer in Jesus Christ. You can think you believe, but not actually believing.

Examine your belief today.
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:22pm On Aug 12, 2024
StillDtruth:
My knowing is my own, so if you want to know what he knows, ask him.
So you can't prove him wrong yet you jumped in to insult everyone, shey? cheesy
Re: How Holy Trinity Was Gotten From The Bible. Is The Bible Against The Trinity. by Michael547(m): 9:24pm On Aug 12, 2024
StillDtruth:
My knowing is my own, so if you want to know what he knows, ask him.
Since your knowing is your own, why do you have a problem with him who is asking a question and those answering him?
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