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Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:40am On Aug 14, 2024
Michael547:
If true knowledge is not in any book, why are are you referencing a quote from Isaiah chapter 2?
How do you know that Isaiah chapter 2 is not corrupted also?
Whenever he say the word "BRAINWASHED" he often thinks it's all he needs to convince others that he has something reasonable to say.
Just imagine asking a sane individual thought provoking questions and all he has to say is:

"You've been brainwashed so nothing i say can make sense to you"

Abeg who is deceiving who?

Is it not by clear and convincing explanation that misinformed (brainwashed) people become informed?cheesy

Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 12:22pm On Aug 14, 2024
Michael547:
If true knowledge is not in any book, why are are you referencing a quote from Isaiah chapter 2?

How do you know that Isaiah chapter 2 is not corrupted also?
I have told you that my teachings are not for brainwashed kids like you and your fellow cults. What I said and always say here is very simple for anyone to understand
The book you are talking about is not an European or Oyibo book. Your bible is African history rewritten to suit the minds of those who created your religion. I can teach you and the founder of your organization many things in that same Bible. As the ancient ppl whose ancestors wrote that book and they even told you to listen to (Isaiah 44:7), I know many lies and corruption in the book. Everything their is our history and stories. It has nothing to do with the Oyibos. So when we tell you that many things you teach or that are their have been corrupted, we know what we are telling you. But you that listen to ppl who just believe and not connected to the source are all in delusion. Only those who know can tell you when something is wrong. Many things in the book are within us and we know what is right and what has been corrupted.

To simplify it for your zapped mind, many things in your bible were written by ancient African scribes on scrolls but when the White men came they hijacked their stories cos they want to use it to control them. They interpreted the hard words their themselves and plagiarized their writings into bible. Brought it back to them and force them to read it. Many things you have their today are the corrupted version of what they wrote. The truth is in us not in the book. So when we see lies we know. When we see truth we know. But your zapped religious mind can never understand these things
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by Michael547(m): 12:28pm On Aug 14, 2024
bobestman:
Churchianity is a waste of time. Man was created to work with the divine light within him. Your Chi, Ori, personal angel was their in the beginning when it all began. Their is nothing you seek that your divine light don't know. Books were written by men who work with and listen to their divine light

Today you follow a religion that was founded on bloodshed. A religion that began by plagiarizing an ancient peoples Ways. 80% of things they teach you in those circus centres are all lies. They don't know the truth and never have it.

When the truth comes you all will abandon your religions and seek for it as written in Isaiah 2. Since it is in the future all you know today are all lies cos when it comes you all will go where God Almighty will put his presence and go their to seek and worship. His presence is not in any of your religions who can't even see their many errors. The thieves lying that they fulfill that verse are only deceiving themselves cos the verses alone shows you when all that will happen which they don't know or have. Their many errors and lies also expose them

The best you can do for yourself now is to try to know the true God yourself. He is a spirit and don't dwell in any house or church. As a spirit (secret), the best way to seek or worship him is in the secret not public place. You are wasting your time in those circus centers. Everything you also need to know about him is embedded in your Chi force/ Ori/Personal angel. When you learn how to communicate with your Chi, you get answers to everything you seek. Your bible is full of corruption. It was written by the wrong ppl. It is like a Yoruba man who went to translate an Igbo book. A language he knows nothing about. You all are in error and have been teaching errors. Work with the light within you and you are good. In the time of Restoration you shall know
bobestman:
I have told you that my teachings are not for brainwashed kids like you and your fellow cults. What I said and always say here is very simple for anyone to understand
The book you are talking about is not an European or Oyibo book. Your bible is African history rewritten to suit the minds of those who created your religion. I can teach you and the founder of your organization many things in that same Bible. As the ancient ppl whose ancestors wrote that book and they even told you to listen to (Isaiah 44:7), I know many lies and corruption in the book. Everything their is our history and stories. It has nothing to do with the Oyibos. So when we tell you that many things you teach or that are their have been corrupted, we know what we are telling you. But you that listen to ppl who just believe and not connected to the source are all in delusion. Only those who know can tell you when something is wrong. Many things in the book are within us and we know what is right and what has been corrupted.

To simplify it for your zapped mind, many things in your bible were written by ancient African scribes on scrolls but when the White men came they hijacked their stories cos they want to use it to control them. They interpreted the hard words their themselves and plagiarized their writings into bible. Brought it back to them and force them to read it. Many things you have their today are the corrupted version of what they wrote. The truth is in us not in the book. So when we see lies we know. When we see truth we know. But your zapped religious mind can never understand these things
So if the bible is all about African history and it has been corrupted, why are you still believing and quoting Isaiah chapter 2 from it?
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 12:39pm On Aug 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Whenever he say the word "BRAINWASHED" he often thinks it's all he needs to convince others that he has something reasonable to say.
Just imagine asking a sane individual thought provoking questions and all he has to say is:

"You've been brainwashed so nothing i say can make sense to you"

Abeg who is deceiving who?

Is it not by clear and convincing explanation that misinformed (brainwashed) people become informed?cheesy
Only a brainwashed clown is afraid to address or quote the right person directly
Do you know that the image you used is addressing your folly and stupidity of you and your ignorant organization?
The fool of the 21st century are those who can't unlearn the lies they are fed with. Your organization has fed you all with lies. Their are simple things you can understand yourself if you read. But fools like you will only follow how your organization explained it for you cos you can never use your God given brain again to understand simple things. You must only believe how they taught you. This is why we call ppl like you BRAINWASHED. You have donated the little sense in your brain to your ignorant and clueless organization
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 12:47pm On Aug 14, 2024
Michael547:
So if the bible is all about African history and it has been corrupted, why are you still believing and quoting Isaiah chapter 2 from it?
If your clueless and foolish organization had taught you well and have not filled your mind with so many lies and also lied to you that only what they taught you is supreme and truth, I wouldn't have wasted my time explaining these simple things again and again. They have taught you to use foolish questions to divert from whatever truth brought to you that is not from your organization. So I can never blame any of you but the foolish organization that brainwashed you all. Keep playing
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by Michael547(m): 12:49pm On Aug 14, 2024
bobestman:
If your clueless and foolish organization had taught you well and have not filled your mind with so many lies and also lied to you that only what they taught you is supreme and truth, I wouldn't have wasted my time explaining these simple things. They have taught you to use foolish questions to divert from whatever truth brought to you that is not from your organization. So I can never blame any of you bought the foolish organization that brainwashed you all. Keep playing
You said the bible is corrupt and you are still quoting from the same Bible as the word of truth, who exactly is being brainwashed here?
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 12:50pm On Aug 14, 2024
Michael547:
You said the bible is corrupt and you are still quoting from the same Bible, who exactly is being brainwashed here?
If you are not a brainwashed JW fool, you would have understand what I meant
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by Michael547(m): 12:54pm On Aug 14, 2024
bobestman:
If you are not a brainwashed JW fool, you would have understand what I meant
bobestman:
Churchianity is a waste of time. Man was created to work with the divine light within him. Your Chi, Ori, personal angel was their in the beginning when it all began. Their is nothing you seek that your divine light don't know. Books were written by men who work with and listen to their divine light

Today you follow a religion that was founded on bloodshed. A religion that began by plagiarizing an ancient peoples Ways. 80% of things they teach you in those circus centres are all lies. They don't know the truth and never have it.

When the truth comes you all will abandon your religions and seek for it as written in Isaiah 2. Since it is in the future all you know today are all lies cos when it comes you all will go where God Almighty will put his presence and go their to seek and worship. His presence is not in any of your religions who can't even see their many errors. The thieves lying that they fulfill that verse are only deceiving themselves cos the verses alone shows you when all that will happen which they don't know or have. Their many errors and lies also expose them

The best you can do for yourself now is to try to know the true God yourself. He is a spirit and don't dwell in any house or church. As a spirit (secret), the best way to seek or worship him is in the secret not public place. You are wasting your time in those circus centers. Everything you also need to know about him is embedded in your Chi force/ Ori/Personal angel. When you learn how to communicate with your Chi, you get answers to everything you seek. Your bible is full of corruption. It was written by the wrong ppl. It is like a Yoruba man who went to translate an Igbo book. A language he knows nothing about. You all are in error and have been teaching errors. Work with the light within you and you are good. In the time of Restoration you shall know
Oga what truth are we going to seek as written in Isaiah chapter 2?

Why don't you think that Isaiah chapter 2 is also a fraud by the white men?
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 1:02pm On Aug 14, 2024
Michael547:
Oga what truth are we going to seek as written in Isaiah chapter 2?

Why don't you think that Isaiah chapter 2 is also a fraud by the white men?
The day your dead organization will set you free, you will understand what I meant and what Isaiah 2 is all about. The person they write to you as Isaiah is an ancient African scribe. You religious clowns can never understand what is truth and what is lie their. You can never understand what is the truth and what the hijackers corrupted in his prophesies. That is your problem
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by Michael547(m): 1:04pm On Aug 14, 2024
bobestman:
The day your dead organization will set you free, you will understand what I meant and what Isaiah 2 is all about. The person they write to you as Isaiah is an ancient African scribe. You religious clowns can never understand what is truth and what is lie their. You can never understand what is the truth and what the hijackers corrupted in his prophesies. That is your problem
Can you kindly explain the truth from the lie in Isaiah chapter 2?
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 1:08pm On Aug 14, 2024
Michael547:
Can you kindly explain the truth from the lie in Isaiah chapter 2?
How can a man whose brains are infested with only what JW call truth understand whatever other ppl teach? Continue with lies they fed you with. My teachings are very hard to understand with a religious mindset. So stick with your brainwashed organization
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by Michael547(m): 1:15pm On Aug 14, 2024
bobestman:
How can a man whose brains are infested with only what JW call truth understand whatever other ppl teach? Continue with lies they fed you with. My teachings are very hard to understand with a religious mindset. So stick with your brainwashed organization
So your teachings are only for non religious people?

How come you are also interested in a religious book?
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 1:47pm On Aug 14, 2024
Michael547:
So your teachings are only for non religious people?

How come you are also interested in a religious book?
As usual, you only catch cruise with questions. Not willing to learn no matter what truth is presented to you. I have answered and keep answering your questions but you will never learn cos you are a JW bono. A brainwashed clone who is certified with his brainwash. You only want to catch cruise with questions when the answer to your questions keep starring in your face. Keep playing. Whether religious or not, as long as you aren't brainwashed, you will understand. But your brain has been washed and mind zapped to understand this simple things. Clone
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by Michael547(m): 1:53pm On Aug 14, 2024
bobestman:
As usual, you only catch cruise with questions. Not willing to learn no matter what truth is presented to you. I have answered and keep answering your questions but you will never learn cos you are a JW bono. A brainwashed clone who is certified with his brainwash. You only want to catch cruise with questions when the answer to your questions keep starring in your face. Keep playing. Whether religious or not, as long as you aren't brainwashed, you will understand. But your brain has been washed and mind zapped to understand this simple things. Clone
You said God cannot be known through any book.

I asked you why you made reference to a book in the bible.......you said the bible was written by Africans and was manipulated by white people.

Then how come you are still referring to a manipulated book.....why not know everything about God from within yourself without mentioning about any book?
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:58pm On Aug 14, 2024
bobestman:
This is why WE call ppl like you BRAINWASHED.
Please which group do you refer to with the highlighted "WE"?

Can you point to the achievements of this so called WE group to prove you and them aren't the confirmed BRAINWASHED ones?


Thanks in advance!undecided

Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 2:08pm On Aug 14, 2024
Michael547:
You said God cannot be known through a book.

I asked you why you made reference to a book in the bible.......you said the bible was written by Africans and was manipulated by white people.

Then how come you are still referring to a manipulated book.....why not know everything about God from within yourself without mentioning about any book?
I said God is within you and it is those who know how to interact with God from within that put what was revealed to them into books. So if you you know how to commune with God you can get direct answers to what you seek. Books can be manipulated and corrupted but what is revealed to you can't be. What our ancestors wrote was corrupted into books for you today by some ppl who want to control. So am only saying many things written to you in books were corrupted or written wrongly cos those who did want to control you. If you are not a fool you will not be asking me why I made reference to what my ancestors wrote that you ppl foolishly interpret wrongly. Is this not simple that even a kid will understand?

If you manipulate and twist this into another foolish question I will curse you
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 2:09pm On Aug 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Please which group do you refer to with the highlighted "WE"?

Can you point to the achievements of this so called WE group to prove you and them aren't the confirmed BRAINWASHED ones?


Thanks in advance!undecided
Am I the only one to call you a brainwashed JW bono? Stick with that
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:10pm On Aug 14, 2024
Michael547:
You said God cannot be known through any book.
I asked you why you made reference to a book in the bible.......you said the bible was written by Africans and was manipulated by white people. Then how come you are still referring to a manipulated book.....why not know everything about God from within yourself without mentioning about any book?
You're talking to a KNOWLEDGEABLE person who is not BRAINWASHED so allow him to do all the talking and stop asking him questions he could get provoked o! cheesy

Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:13pm On Aug 14, 2024
bobestman:
a brainwashed JW
OK it's only me that's brainwashed while all other JWs aren't brainwashed, right?

But why are you and those saying this aren't in agreement but keep insulting one another? smiley
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:14pm On Aug 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You're talking to a KNOWLEDGEABLE person who is not BRAINWASHED so allow him to do all the talking and stop asking him questions he could get provoked o! cheesy
bobestman:
If you manipulate and twist this into another foolish question I will curse you.
Michael run o!
He is about to bite you o!

Walahi talahi MaxInDhouse is a witch, i said it and before two minutes my prediction came through like say nah jazz i used! cheesycheesy
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 2:17pm On Aug 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
OK it's only me that's brainwashed while all other JWs aren't brainwashed, right?

But why are you and those saying this aren't in agreement but keep insulting one another? smiley
You are not the only JW I have engaged. You will be alright one day
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:21pm On Aug 14, 2024
bobestman:
You are not the only JW I have engaged. You will be alright one day
bobestman:
If you manipulate and twist this into another foolish question I will curse you.
Why is it that you're always thinking of how to curse people who question your stupidity opinion? smiley
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 2:24pm On Aug 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Michael run o!
He is about to bite you o!

Walahi talahi MaxInDhouse is a witch, i said it and before two minutes my prediction came through like say nah jazz i used! cheesycheesy
Your clueless organization taught him to use foolish questions to wear ppl out. No matter what truth is revealed to him he will keep asking foolish questions for cruise. Until he is cursed one day he will have sense. If you have nothing and can't engage ppl stay away. Stop asking foolish questions all for cruise. You better use chain hold him and carry him run away cos he no go hear
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:28pm On Aug 14, 2024
bobestman:
Your clueless organization taught him to use foolish questions to wear ppl out. No matter what truth is revealed to him he will keep asking foolish questions for cruise. Until he is cursed one day he will have sense. If you have nothing and can't engage ppl stay away. Stop asking foolish questions all for cruise. You better use chain hold him and carry him run away cos he no go hear
Walahi talahi you're a clown! cheesy

Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 2:30pm On Aug 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Why is it that you're always thinking of how to curse people who question your stupidity opinion? smiley
Have I cursed you before? If you lie curse go follow you. I either say you are brainwashed which is another word for ignorance. I don't curse. I engaged you well until I see what you are up to. I do insult your organization cos I know them from Adam and know all their lies they used to brainwash you. I rather insult them than insult you. I don't curse. But I can curse Michael today for always twisting what I said for foolish questions
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 2:32pm On Aug 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Walahi talahi you're a clown! cheesy
Just like the founder of you clueless JW. If he is not a clown you for get sense today
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:37pm On Aug 14, 2024
bobestman:
If you manipulate and twist this into another foolish question I will curse you.
bobestman:
I don't curse. But I can curse Michael today for always twisting what I said for foolish questions.
But if he brainwashed as you claim why curse him again?
Can't you use your WISDOM to help him out of his ignorance? smiley

Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:38pm On Aug 14, 2024
bobestman:
Just like the founder of you clueless JW. If he is not a clown you for get sense today
He is gone now but yours is so obvious as you are saying one thing:
bobestman:
Have I cursed you before? I don't curse. But I can curse Michael today for always twisting what I said for foolish questions
and doing another:

bobestman:
If you manipulate and twist this into another foolish question I will curse you.
cheesy
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by Michael547(m): 4:54pm On Aug 14, 2024
bobestman:
I said God is within you and it is those who know how to interact with God from within that put what was revealed to them into books. So if you you know how to commune with God you can get direct answers to what you seek. Books can be manipulated and corrupted but what is revealed to you can't be. What our ancestors wrote was corrupted into books for you today by some ppl who want to control. So am only saying many things written to you in books were corrupted or written wrongly cos those who did want to control you. If you are not a fool you will not be asking me why I made reference to what my ancestors wrote that you ppl foolishly interpret wrongly. Is this not simple that even a kid will understand?

If you manipulate and twist this into another foolish question I will curse you
Now that you know the right interpretation of the Bible, why not teach us the right interpretation in Isaiah chapter 2?

Do you know anyone else who knows the right interpretation of the bible?
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 5:06pm On Aug 14, 2024
Michael547:
Now that you know the right interpretation of the Bible, why not teach us the right interpretation in Isaiah chapter 2?

Do you know anyone else who knows the right interpretation of the bible?
Your zapped mind will never understand. You have been asking questions all your life here and I have been teaching you but you never learn or agree with anything. If you need anymore teachings you will have to pay. Many things I have taught you here many have learned a lot from them even without commenting. This is why we say knowledge is not given to dogs. Pay if you want to learn
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 5:11pm On Aug 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
He is gone now but yours is so obvious as you are saying one thing:


and doing another:


cheesy
You made zero and still laughing like a mad man. Their is a difference between I will curse and didn't curse.
Since he is gone that means your brainwashing can never be cured cos we need to find him to know what to use to break the spell he put on you ppl
Re: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 5:14pm On Aug 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
But if he brainwashed as you claim why curse him again?
Can't you use your WISDOM to help him out of his ignorance? smiley
His case is likened to a mad man that they want to help to a psychiatrist hospital but he bit them all and ran into the bush. He is not ready. Both of you are the same
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