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How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 6:13am On Dec 07, 2013
Seriously?

Let us examine the evidence

1) We have our resident Hell activist, Mr Olaadegbu- a christian that keeps posting testimonies about hell as if he has been to hell to verify these stories. Not only that, the guy keeps quoting constantly debunked creationist websites and people- (evolutionvsGod, Ray Comfort, answers in genesis)



2) We have people claiming that Mandela is in hell
https://www.nairaland.com/1546130/mandela-hell-fire-well-what-these



3) We have our very own tithe collector on Nairaland- Mr Joagbaje, claiming that
a) Real christians do not fall sick https://www.nairaland.com/599451/pastor-chris-oyakhilome-don-t
b) Demons can send texts https://www.nairaland.com/1469553/demons-send-sms-those-experience



4) We have Jehovah witnesses preferring a sick patient to die than to receive blood transfusion
http://www.economist.com/blogs/erasmus/2013/08/jehovahs-witnesses-and-blood
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2400938/Jehovahs-Witness-wife-died-refusing-blood-transfusion-jailed-13-years-child-sex-abuse-covered-religions-elders.html



5)We have our very own prophet of doom here on Nairaland- Obadiah777 (only 111 away from 666).
Obadiah gleefully waits for the world to be destroyed with very epic scenarios.

a) He sees supernatural plagues of bloody rivers (ignoring the red dye that explains a natural event) https://www.nairaland.com/1543983/rivers-turn-blood-red-lebanon-china
b) He sees some people getting nuked and some races becoming slaves after the armageddon https://www.nairaland.com/1451323/obadiah-777-how-relate-ideas#18330905



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Imagine if an atheist did some of these things- the atheist would have been quickly branded as "crazy", "militant" or "dangerous". However, when it comes to religion, it becomes a matter of "let us respect their beliefs"


Joagbaje is a top pastor in Nigeria
Obadiah777 is a mod on Africa's biggest website
Jehovah's witness is a recognized christian denomination


smh

^^^^

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Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by shadydeals: 6:32am On Dec 07, 2013
so what's ur point, that they are crazy? mteeew.

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Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 6:49am On Dec 07, 2013
shadydeals: so what's ur point, that they are crazy? mteeew.


You believe those actions were a result of rational thinking?

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Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by shadydeals: 7:22am On Dec 07, 2013
Logicboy03:


You believe those actions were a result of rational thinking?
And you believe it's madness to express one's beliefs or faith?
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by shadydeals: 7:27am On Dec 07, 2013
That u cal urself logicboy does not make u more logical or more rational.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:11am On Dec 07, 2013
shadydeals: so what's ur point, that they are crazy? mteeew.

That is called 'kolo mentality' in the spiritual underground.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:15am On Dec 07, 2013
shadydeals: And you believe it's madness to express one's beliefs or faith?

It is madness when you express fantasy in your mind rather than experiencing it in reality.

A mad man dance around in rag....they even mock you when you put on clean clothes because they are mad.

Hell preacher only imagine how Hell is. From there they deduce hell temperature, numbers of prison there, people there and their messages yet they have not been to Hell once. Only in the heart......that is madness

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Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 9:05am On Dec 07, 2013
shadydeals: And you believe it's madness to express one's beliefs or faith?

If I believe that I can fly and it is a part of my faith.......wouldnt that be madness?

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Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Oduduwaboy(m): 9:17am On Dec 07, 2013
Logicboy03:


You believe those actions were a result of rational thinking?

*smiling*.....religion is anti-reason.
If i remember well, one of the definitions of schizophrenia includes living in ones delusions as if they were real .....

Religion involves every type of delusions e.g mansions in heaven, golden streets,eternal loafing in heaven , hell fire, armagedon ,72 virgin etc

So i agree with your hypothesis . Religion is madness .

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Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 9:35am On Dec 07, 2013
Oduduwaboy:

*smiling*.....religion is anti-reason.
If i remember well, one of the definitions of schizophrenia includes living in ones delusions as if they were real .....

Religion involves every type of delusions e.g mansions in heaven, golden streets,eternal loafing in heaven , hell fire, armagedon ,72 virgin etc

So i agree with your hypothesis . Religion is madness .


lol.....some modern "religions" (more like philosophies eg religious humanism, new age paganism) are not madness.

However, the Abrahamic religions contains some archaic thinking that should be classified as madness in this present day
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by macof(m): 1:44pm On Dec 07, 2013
Religion grin

If only anyone has truly seen God
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Oduduwaboy(m): 2:10pm On Dec 07, 2013
Logicboy03:


lol.....some modern "religions" (more like philosophies eg religious humanism, new age paganism) are not madness.

However, the Abrahamic religions contains some archaic thinking that should be classified as madness in this present day
totally agree with you .
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by mumumugu(m): 2:29pm On Dec 07, 2013
Is religion responsible for my mental state or is it a cure for my madness?
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Oduduwaboy(m): 2:51pm On Dec 07, 2013
macof: Religion grin

If only anyone has truly seen God

yeaaaaah....!
if only he will let us have first hand experiences of himself rather than through dishonest men of god .

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Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 3:13pm On Dec 07, 2013
mumumugu: Is religion responsible for my mental state or is it a cure for my madness?


You were always a mumu....so no worries
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 3:15pm On Dec 07, 2013
Oduduwaboy:

yeaaaaah....!
if only he will let us have first hand experiences of himself rather than through dishonest men of god .



Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by raptureready: 3:53pm On Dec 07, 2013
@op your topic says "religion", but your post looks a heck of a lot more like a thinly veiled poke at christianity...

Is christianity the only religion?

Y r u fellas always hurling barbs at us? Na because se we tell una say una de go hellfire? grin grin
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 4:07pm On Dec 07, 2013
rapture_ready: @op your topic says "religion", but your post looks a heck of a lot more like a thinly veiled poke at christianity...

Is christianity the only religion?

Y r u fellas always hurling barbs at us? Na because se we tell una say una de go hellfire? grin grin



Lol... I just had a lot of xtian examples at The time
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by raptureready: 5:23pm On Dec 07, 2013
Logicboy03:



Lol... I just had a lot of xtian examples at The time

Ya, right.

Like una fit go try islamists, make dem issue fatwa 4 ur head, 4wad ur contact details give boko haram...

In other news, how are you preparing for hellfire? grin
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 5:25pm On Dec 07, 2013
rapture_ready:

Ya, right.

Like una fit go try islamists, make dem issue fatwa 4 ur head, 4wad ur contact details give boko haram...

In other news, how are you preparing for hellfire? grin


Cant prepare for hell fire......it doesnt exist
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by raptureready: 5:44pm On Dec 07, 2013
Logicboy03:


Cant prepare for hell fire......it doesnt exist


You'd really would rather find out the hard way, wouldn't you?

Hmm... cool
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Joshthefirst(m): 5:47pm On Dec 07, 2013
Another epileptic thread coming from someone who believes non-directed random motions brought about intelligence and life and organization of the cosmos, who believes his cousin is a bonobo.

And you say religious people are mentally diseased.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 6:00pm On Dec 07, 2013
Joshthefirst: Another epileptic thread coming from someone who believes non-directed random motions brought about intelligence and life and organization of the cosmos, who believes his cousin is a bonobo.

And you say religious people are mentally diseased.


1) Who told you that I believe the crap in bold?

2)Bonobos are our cousins? You high, bro?
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by raptureready: 6:50pm On Dec 07, 2013
Logicboy03: 2)Bonobos are our cousins? You high, bro?

Well according to the evolution theory, they are the closest species to the human species.

Initial genetic studies characterised
the DNA of chimpanzees and
bonobos as being as much as 98%
(99.4% in one study) identical to that
of Homo sapiens.[18] Later studies
showed that chimpanzees and
bonobos are more closely related to
humans than to gorillas.[19] In the
crucial Nature paper reporting on
initial genome comparisons,
researchers identified 35 million
single-nucleotide changes, five
million insertion or deletion events,
and a number of chromosomal
rearrangements which constituted
the genetic differences between the
two Pan species and humans,
covering 98% of the same genes.[20]


Weird that you don't seem to know this

Logicboy03:


1) Who told you that I believe the crap in bold?

You don't believe religion or science, which one you dey?

Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 6:53pm On Dec 07, 2013
rapture_ready:

Well according to the evolution theory, they are the closest species to the human species.

[I]Initial genetic studies characterised
the DNA of chimpanzees and
bonobos as being as much as 98%
(99.4% in one study) identical to that
of Homo sapiens.[18] Later studies
showed that chimpanzees and
bonobos are more closely related to
humans than to gorillas.[19] In the
crucial Nature paper reporting on
initial genome comparisons,
researchers identified 35 million
single-nucleotide changes, five
million insertion or deletion events,
and a number of chromosomal
rearrangements which constituted
the genetic differences between the
two Pan species and humans,
covering 98% of the same genes.[20]
[/i]

Weird that you don't seem to know this



You don't believe religion or science, which one you dey?



Guy.....Evolution tells us that all animals are related..some more closely than others...now how does that translate into bonobos being our cousins because that is an entirely different statement.


You and Joshthefirst minsterprete and misunderstand science and then put your ignorance on science as the atheist position.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by raptureready: 7:19pm On Dec 07, 2013
Logicboy03:


Guy.....Evolution tells us that all animals are related..some more closely than others... now how does that translate into bonobos being our cousins because that is an entirely different statement.

Actually, YOU misinterpreted what @joshthefirst was saying. The phrase about bonobos being "our cousins" is not a "different statement".

You don't have to take my word for it. Let's ask google...


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Extraordinary images that show just
how similar we are to our ...
4 Sep 2013... images detail the
remarkable similarities between
humans and our closest living
relatives, bonobos.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-24...
Meet your cousin: the bonobo | Africa
Geographic Magazine Blog
25 Nov 2013 ... Bonobos are our
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interesting facts about ...
blog.africageographic.com/africa-ge...
Bonobo - Wikipedia, the free
encyclopedia
... biologists like Jeremy Griffith to
suggest that bonobos may be a living
example of our distant human
ancestors.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo
Researchers complete the genome of
our promiscuous cousins | Ars ...
13 Jun 2012 ... Bonobos are a species
within a species. ... complete the
genome of our promiscuous cousins.
arstechnica.com/science/2012/06/res...
WWF - Bonobo
Bonobos, arguably our closest
relatives, live only in the Congo Basin
rainforests of central Democratic
Republic of the ...
www.panda.org/../bonobo/
Bonobo Handshake: What Makes Our
Chimp-like Cousins So ...
4 Sep 2007 ... What's it like to work
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13 Jun 2012 ... Bonobos are apes that
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[Animal Code: Our Favorite Genomes].
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Science/2012/0613...
Bonobo Handshake: Learning from our
cousins in Congo | North ...
In the midst of the war-torn Congo,
there exists a peaceful society in which
females are in charge, war is
nonexistent, ...
naturalsciences.org/programs-events...
Bonobos Join Chimps as Closest
Human Relatives | Science/AAAS ...
13 Jun 2012 ... Chimpanzees now
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our closest living relative in the
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For an atheist, your scientific knowledge is quite poor. @MrTroll and your other buds will be ashamed of you...

Logicboy03:
You and Joshthefirst minsterprete and misunderstand science and then put your ignorance on science as the atheist position.

And you've got the guts to call somebody else "ignorant"...

Just because we are christians doesn't mean we've got an inferior understanding of science.

Many great scientists of time past, and even some of present are christians.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 7:24pm On Dec 07, 2013
rapture_ready: blah blah blah


You miss the point.

Joshthefirst was using "cousins" in literal sense.

Why? Because if it were metaphorical, it wouldnt be mentally ridiculous to him


The scientists use tthe word "cousins" in a non-literal way to mean that we are closely related to bonobo since they have a very c lose dna to our common ancestor
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by raptureready: 7:34pm On Dec 07, 2013
Logicboy03:


You miss the point.

Joshthefirst was using "cousins" in literal sense.

Why? Because if it were metaphorical, it wouldnt be mentally ridiculous to him


The scientists use tthe word "cousins" in a non-literal way to mean that we are closely related to bonobo since they have a very c lose dna to our common ancestor

Again, you still miss the point.

His literal use of "his cousin" was actually meant as an insult, not a claim that humans and bonobos were born by the same grandparents.

You guys would just rather believe the most possible worst 'bout christians.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 7:35pm On Dec 07, 2013
rapture_ready:



Just because we are christians doesn't mean we've got an inferior understanding of science.

You just choose not to accept it
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by raptureready: 8:04pm On Dec 07, 2013
rationalmind:

You just choose not to accept it

Oh we accept it all right. Just not all of it.

For example, we don't need some flawed hypothesis to tell us how the universe or man came about...
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 8:08pm On Dec 07, 2013
rapture_ready:

Oh we accept it all right. Just not all of it.

For example, we don't need some flawed hypothesis to tell us how the universe or man came about...

But ure ready to accept a less plausible hypothesis.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by raptureready: 8:53pm On Dec 07, 2013
rationalmind:

But ure ready to accept a less plausible hypothesis.

The story in genesis 1 is a heck of a lot more plausible than the big bang theory.

An intelligent creator creates the universe vs it appeared out of nowhere as a point mass singularity of zero volume and infinite density spinning furiously and then at some point it decides to explode and create a bunch of humans...

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