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Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by HellVictorinho8(m): 8:27pm On Aug 18, 2024
jaephoenix:
Anything that cannot be proven objectively and subjectively, cannot be said to exist.
If I tell you I have a red dragon in my garage would you believe me?
Is objectively /subjectively limited 2 ur lab tests?

Answer dat first
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by HellVictorinho8(m): 8:45pm On Aug 18, 2024
jaephoenix:
If I can show him via evidence that something exists, then its a fact. He doesn't need to believe again. He should accept it as a fact
Thing is they use believe cuz they dont consider god as visible or what u can prepare like sum chemical

They consider god as existence itself or creator of everything in d universe and they dont expect questions abt gods origin

But u see me

I dont even think theres an everything that exists

Let alone creator

Theres no universe

Am rather asking

Does existence in d literal state arise from existence in d non literal state
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by TenQ: 9:04pm On Aug 18, 2024
jaephoenix:
Yes I did. Go to the front page. Are you blind too
Have a nice day!
You are a waste of precious time.
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by FRANCISTOWN(op): 9:08pm On Aug 18, 2024
jaephoenix:
Oh, u have chabged from "I havent seen oxygen" to "I haven’t seen oxygen gas "
Lol FRANCISTOWN this your guy na clown grin
He never knew that oxygen could be seen in it's other state. Did he say he was a science student? I doubt that. He reeks more of a village palm wine tapper.
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by HellVictorinho8(m): 8:05am On Aug 19, 2024
FRANCISTOWN:
He never knew that oxygen could be seen in it's other state. Did he say he was a science student? I doubt that. He reeks more of a village palm wine tapper.
Jus like he wud say u neva knew ghosts cud be seen in sum other state


So itz beta 2 av nothing 2 say in dis case

And not bcuz u are amazed

But bcuz the topic itself ,whether ghosts exist or not,aint worth it.
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by jaephoenix(m): 9:32am On Aug 19, 2024
HellVictorinho8:
Is objectively /subjectively limited 2 ur lab tests?

Answer dat first
Experiments mustnt always be in the lab. It can be in homes, anywhere. But evidence must be passed by our 5 senses
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by jaephoenix(m): 9:34am On Aug 19, 2024
HellVictorinho8:
Thing is they use believe cuz they dont consider god as visible or what u can prepare like sum chemical

They consider god as existence itself or creator of everything in d universe and they dont expect questions abt gods origin

But u see me

I dont even think theres an everything that exists

Let alone creator

Theres no universe

Am rather asking

Does existence in d literal state arise from existence in d non literal state
Please explain the bolded
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by jaephoenix(m): 9:35am On Aug 19, 2024
TenQ:
Have a nice day!
You are a waste of precious time.
Exactly. The usual cop-out grin
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by jaephoenix(m): 9:36am On Aug 19, 2024
FRANCISTOWN:
He never knew that oxygen could be seen in it's other state. Did he say he was a science student? I doubt that. He reeks more of a village palm wine tapper.
And he'll tell you he is a top scientist in a top research lab
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by jaephoenix(m): 9:37am On Aug 19, 2024
HellVictorinho8:
Jus like he wud say u neva knew ghosts cud be seen in sum other state


So itz beta 2 av nothing 2 say in dis case

And not bcuz u are amazed

But bcuz the topic itself ,whether ghosts exist or not,aint worth it.
So what other forms can we see ghosts or gods? If we can see them in any form, then we won't be having these debates
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by HellVictorinho8(m): 11:25am On Aug 19, 2024
[quote author=jaephoenix post=131581515][/quote]Ok
part 1

Soooo y do you think it exists?

I say it doesnt becuz itz defined as everything that exists which means existence has a totality


So what am saying is if you define existence as sumtin that has a totality ,then u must av a reason 4 that.

so whats d evidence of existence having a totality?






part 2



if sumtin begins 2 exist literally, does that mean it was caused by sumtin that existed same way or not?


letz consider literally 2 mean materially

can matter be preceded by shape?
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by HellVictorinho8(m): 1:29pm On Aug 19, 2024
jaephoenix:
So what other forms can we see ghosts or gods? If we can see them in any form, then we won't be having these debates
exactly

u want 2 see


but theyre seeing u shud not see

except god or the ghosts wish 2 make themselves visible 2 you


now letz not dwell on dat

rather
stop asking 4 evidence!


cuz theres no relationship btw anything god,ghosts,aliens and ur method of affirming anything



ur method doesnt match d concept of if god wants 2 do it ,he will do it.


and we av sum that bliv in god ,they will u they know god as well.

anyways,even god has a hundred forms, u dont expect UR experiments 2 show him.

Those that bliv in him experience god experiments everyday

As in their experiences are enough 4 them 2 bliv

So they dont even have 2 see him in any material form

Their experiences such as walking, sitting,standing, even sickness , anything good or bad ,theyre god experiments 2 them

Theyre enough 4 them 2 bliv

2 also understand

2 know

Whatever they consider 2 be anything




It doesnt even have 2 make sense 2 you



Neither does ur atheism av 2 make sense 2 them
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by HellVictorinho8(m): 1:46pm On Aug 19, 2024
jaephoenix:
Experiments mustnt always be in the lab. It can be in homes, anywhere. But evidence must be passed by our 5 senses
A visible pen has been taken as evidence by many


A visible chair

Etc





If am not satisfied as an atheist by such

Will that stop others from being satisfied

If am satisfied as a theist, must others be satisfied by same?


The issue of god or ghosts is not our fault as humans

we shudnt fight or insult one another bcuz of dat

Itz an issue caused by sumtin we aint responsible 4

Which is we ourselves

We do not cause ourselves 2 exist
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by advocatejare(m): 3:53pm On Aug 19, 2024
TenQ:
Have a nice day!
You are a waste of precious time.
Brother please stop wasting your time on atheists, I don’t bother myself with them. It’s not worth it
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by TenQ: 4:19pm On Aug 19, 2024
advocatejare:
Brother please stop wasting your time on atheists, I don’t bother myself with them. It’s not worth it
In perfect agreement with you
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by jaephoenix(m): 4:44pm On Aug 19, 2024
HellVictorinho8:
exactly

u want 2 see


but theyre seeing u shud not see

except god or the ghosts wish 2 make themselves visible 2 you


now letz not dwell on dat

rather
stop asking 4 evidence!


cuz theres no relationship btw anything god,ghosts,aliens and ur method of affirming anything



ur method doesnt match d concept of if god wants 2 do it ,he will do it.


and we av sum that bliv in god ,they will u they know god as well.

anyways,even god has a hundred forms, u dont expect UR experiments 2 show him.

Those that bliv in him experience god experiments everyday

As in their experiences are enough 4 them 2 bliv

So they dont even have 2 see him in any material form

Their experiences such as walking, sitting,standing, even sickness , anything good or bad ,theyre god experiments 2 them

Theyre enough 4 them 2 bliv

2 also understand

2 know

Whatever they consider 2 be anything




It doesnt even have 2 make sense 2 you



Neither does ur atheism av 2 make sense 2 them
So if a god cannot be shown in an evidence, how did that believer know such a god exists?
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by jaephoenix(m): 4:51pm On Aug 19, 2024
HellVictorinho8:
A visible pen has been taken as evidence by many


A visible chair

Etc





If am not satisfied as an atheist by such

Will that stop others from being satisfied

If am satisfied as a theist, must others be satisfied by same?


The issue of god or ghosts is not our fault as humans

we shudnt fight or insult one another bcuz of dat

Itz an issue caused by sumtin we aint responsible 4

Which is we ourselves

We do not cause ourselves 2 exist
So do you believe that I have a red dragon in my house?
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by jaephoenix(m): 4:52pm On Aug 19, 2024
advocatejare:
Brother please stop wasting your time on atheists, I don’t bother myself with them. It’s not worth it
Exactly. You bother yourself with JW and Muslims cos they are low IQ folks like you. With atheists, you don't stand a chance with poor critical reasoning and scientific knowledge
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by HellVictorinho8(m): 4:57pm On Aug 19, 2024
jaephoenix:
So do you believe that I have a red dragon in my house?
What do i gain 4 answering that?
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by jaephoenix(m): 4:59pm On Aug 19, 2024
HellVictorinho8:
What do i gain 4 answering that?
What do you gain from commenting on this thread?
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by HellVictorinho8(m): 5:08pm On Aug 19, 2024
jaephoenix:
So if a god cannot be shown in an evidence, how did that believer know such a god exists?
Waking up is enough

So u are expected 2 thank god till u cant wake up again or whatever these things mean



Whatever dis entire world is even supposed 2 mean
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by HellVictorinho8(m): 5:13pm On Aug 19, 2024
jaephoenix:
What do you gain from commenting on this thread?
Yeah what do i gain from commenting here

They dont even answer my questions which i find so difficult 2 type with dis button phone


What does that one mean again
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by advocatejare(m): 6:39pm On Aug 19, 2024
jaephoenix:
Exactly. You bother yourself with JW and Muslims cos they are low IQ folks like you. With atheists, you don't stand a chance with poor critical reasoning and scientific knowledge
You are right grin

Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by advocatejare(m): 6:40pm On Aug 19, 2024
TenQ:
In perfect agreement with you
👍🏻
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by jaephoenix(m): 6:57pm On Aug 19, 2024
HellVictorinho8:
Waking up is enough

So u are expected 2 thank god till u cant wake up again or whatever these things mean



Whatever dis entire world is even supposed 2 mean
Are you aware there is a circadian rhythm that is in the brain that wakes u up everyday? Its not linked to any god
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by jaephoenix(m): 6:58pm On Aug 19, 2024
advocatejare:
You are right grin
Thank you. Now go argue with your low IQ JW and Muslims. I have debated with you, and to be honest, there's no smartness in your head
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by advocatejare(m): 7:08pm On Aug 19, 2024
jaephoenix:
Thank you. Now go argue with your low IQ JW and Muslims. I have debated with you, and to be honest, there's no smartness in your head
The attention you want, you won’t get it. I know how to handle fools like you, I just deprive you of attention and you start dancing naked in the market like you are doing now. wink

Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by HellVictorinho8(m): 7:49pm On Aug 19, 2024
jaephoenix:
Are you aware there is a circadian rhythm that is in the brain that wakes u up everyday? Its not linked to any god
Did i sound like god did it undecided


Till u cant wake up again undecided



Whatever these things mean undecided

Whatever this world means undecided


Am even sick of d topic damn!


Dont u get it undecided


And 2 worsen it ,theres no atheist where i reside as i reason these things in frustration.

U guys dismiss my questions about existence


U seem 2 have more time 4 dtruthspeaker

Well,
The closest friend av got where i reside is a theist

He knows av had issues with god stuff so he tries 2 give me a definition or concept of god 2 address that sumtimes
But
The outcome has been me losing interest in god debates and i dont even ask any question about anything god,jesus,ghosts etc anymore

If i go 2 church, i listen,look around then i leave.


Both theists and atheists wud surely say av not worked hard enough 2 merit at least 5 befitting pairs of trousers and thatz all that matas 2 me


But asides dat ,hes been doing his best 2 help me survive,


He may not turn me back 2 a theist

But he has done his best 2 show how a bliver shud live

Itz not just d murny he gives , i mean d murny may not even go beyond a day.

But d fact that he tries 2 determine the usefulness of theism or atheism means a lot 2 me


At the moment ,am not d kind of person u can easily define.


Is he a theist

Is he an atheist

Is he not confused


Man


Am jus myself



Av been a theist

Av been an atheist

Av investigated d occult


Right now


I wanna create a word 4 categorizing or classifying myself
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by jaephoenix(m): 12:10pm On Aug 20, 2024
advocatejare:
The attention you want, you won’t get it. I know how to handle fools like you, I just deprive you of attention and you start dancing naked in the market like you are doing now. wink
Right. Then keep your low IQ ass outta my sight. And shut the door. This is the last time I interface with you. Bye
Re: My Experience At The Graveyard by advocatejare(m): 1:52pm On Aug 20, 2024
jaephoenix:
Right. Then keep your low IQ ass outta my sight. And shut the door. This is the last time I interface with you. Bye
You’re just as stupid as I envisaged. First and foremost, I didn’t quote you in the first place, i was advising a friend of mine but you exhibited your lack of decorum as usual by mentioning me first and I told you that I didn’t have your time. I don’t waste my time on fools, you can continue your dance of same on your own. I won’t engage you in any arguments, you’re not worth the attention!

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