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Boomark:
Question:

1. Tell me just one thing which the spirit of God told you that is not in the bible?

Let's see if you were laughing in ignorance or not about all truth.

Boomark:
What business do I have with an Antichrist? Nothing.

FxMasterz:
Lol.
So dem dey do rehearsal before dem fit give talks for the cult?
😂😂 😂 😂

Since they do not have the Spirit of God for inspired teachings, na rehearsal dem they do. Men are teaching them all things but Jesus said the Spirit of Truth will teach us all things. When the Spirit is absent, the flesh takes over, leading to many errors and heresies.

Edybleketara:
their biggest problem is hypocrisy. outwardly jws behave like saints, but in secret, they do the opposite of what they preach.
they also have a knack for berating other religions. they believe they are the only ones who will be saved, and refer to other religions as Babylon the great- the world empire of false religion.

armchairscholar:
Yeah I don't understand how anyone can look at the JW leadership and think "These are honorable people of God" -- they are obviously charlatans

armchairscholar:
Yeah I don't understand how anyone can look at the JW leadership and think "These are honorable people of God" -- they are obviously charlatans

Boomark:
They are much more honourable than you. I have related with them and have seen it. They are not perfect but they are better.

All these people running away from questions after making mockery, those throwing insults up and down, and the Antichrist in their midst have no honour.

The one I asked question up there has disappeared. I wonder how somebody will be confident laughing and saying something he cannot defend? Those who think they have honour and are on the right side are simply deluded.

They are much more honourable than you. I have related with them and have seen it. They are not perfect but they are better.

All these people running away from questions after making mockery, those throwing insults up and down, and the Antichrist in their midst have no honour.

The one I asked question up there has disappeared. I wonder how somebody will be confident laughing and saying something he cannot defend.

Those who think they have honour and are on the right side are simply deluded

Boomark:
# That they rehearse before they teach.
# That men are teaching them all things
# That Jesus said the spirit will reveal all things to us.

Were you not the one that said these things or you didn't know when you were laughing and typed all these things that are full of errors. Absence of the spirit in deed?

Question:
So
1. Tell me just one thing which the spirit of God told you that is not in the bible?

I want to know part of the all things which the Spirit of God did not reveal to the the Apostles which was reserved for you alone..

MaxInDHouse:
Your hatred for JWs is so great in your heart that you often say anything that comes into your head just to malign God's organization that is expected though {John 15:19} so just as there is no reason whatsoever for hating Jesus you don't know why you should hate JWs {John 7:7} but you're just determined to continue saying whatever you could to make others join you in your bitterness against God's people.
As for Maximus your effort on this forum to make others hate me is futile, see what those who don't even know me like you are saying regarding what they have observed in me:
So you can continue crying and wailing if that's your portion where others are joyfully rejoicing praising God for the gift in men!

TemmyT002:
Taking Nigeria as a case study, if you are not a Jehovah’s Witness, you must have heard from some pastors or some other Christians like you about how the Jehovah’s Witnesses teach the wrong gospel. You must have heard them say that they use the wrong Bible. They must have told you to kick them out of your house or never let them in. They might have even told you that listening to them could lead you to Hell Fire.

My view about them changed when I related with one of them during an external tutorial class. There was a single guy among the rest in a mixed class of Christians and Muslims. This guy was the only Jehovah’s Witness. We all had a lot of fun bullying him. We made jest of his bag and made jest of the fact that he was a Jehovah’s Witness.

Despite all these bullying, he never retaliated. We were still kids back then and our knowledge of the Bible was what we were taught in our different churches. We argued over some verses in the bible and the guy took pains to explain some topics based on what he had been taught. We all shut him down, of course.

Years later, I had the opportunity to visit one of their Kingdom Halls. I had read a lot of their FREE publications and I wanted to see what they did there. I was wowed. I have been to many other churches but this Kingdom Hall was different.

The surprising part was that after the service, I met this guy again and he was so happy to see me. I was surprised. I thought he would make jest of me and ask why I was there. Instead, he and the other people there showed me love.

How are the Jehovah’s Witnesses better Christians than the rest of us?

1. THEY FACE MORE PERSECUTIONS

The Bible says “Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven”- Matthew 5:10

John 15:18- “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.”

2 Timothy 3:12 – “Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man.”

You will agree with me that Christians in Nigeria also get persecuted but the persecutions occur mostly in the Northern part of Nigeria. Jehovah’s Witnesses, however, are many all over the world and they are persecuted more than all other Christians of different denominations. The recent one occurred in Russia.

The Southwestern part of Nigeria, which is full of the Yorubas is considered to be full of people who are tolerant and accept you into their society no matter your status or religion. However, Jehovah’s Witnesses still get persecuted there most of the time.

I watched an American movie about the Second World War and at the end of the movie, some statistics were listed based on the number of people who were killed by Hitler’s Soldiers. Apart from the Jews, the homosexuals, and blacks, I was surprised to see Jehovah’s Witnesses listed among them too.

2. DONATIONS ARE VOLUNTARY

Unlike in other Christian churches where people are forced or even threatened to make donations, donations in Kingdom Halls of the Jehovah’s Witnesses are quite voluntary. When you walk into one of their Halls, you will see a box right at the entrance calling you to make voluntary donations.

In other churches, publications are not free. Pastors and General Overseers write a lot of books. Some churches even produce a lot of books for the benefit of their congregations but these books are not free. This is different with Jehovah’s Witnesses.

In each Kingdom Hall, at least the ones I have been to, there is a special place where lots of books and publications are arranged. You can pick any book depending on the language you want for free.

You might have seen them giving out books on the streets and they would never ask you to buy them. They would instead ask you to make voluntary donations. Even if you don’t have money, you can go ahead and pick. They are more interested in making sure you gain the knowledge of God’s word.

3. MEMBERS AND SOCIAL MEDIA

Do you know a Jehovah’s Witness who doesn’t ‘preach’ on social media? When Jesus was leaving the earth, he asked his disciples to go all over the world and preach the gospel.

Thankfully, we are in the jet age where you can share information that can reach people all over the world. Unfortunately, today’s Christians rarely make use of this opportunity to preach the gospel.

There are lots of Christians who have huge followers on different social media platforms but unless they are pastors, you would rarely see them post anything related to the gospel on their accounts. Instead of sermons you will see them posting their beautiful pictures.

Jehovah’s Witnesses’ members post different topics on Facebook, WhatsApp, Twitter, Pinterest, and so on. Whatever they learn in their Kingdom Halls or conventions, they make sure they share them online.

Other Christians prefer to share nonsensical topics and topics that won’t touch your life positively in anyway. They are supposed to share the sermons they learn from their different churches every Sunday but they would rather share posts concerning Big Brother Nigeria or other nonsense.

4. EVANGELISM

This is one of the things they are known for. Apart from the social media, radio and other modes of evangelism, the Jehovah’s Witnesses preach the gospel by walking from house to house.

Despite the fact that a lot of people reject them, they still keep on. Everything in their minds is looking for one or two people whose lives they can touch positively. You see them walking in the sun, with their umbrellas and bags, with no shame. They prefer to follow God’s instructions and they do this at least twice in a week, walking long distances.

5. TESTIMONIES

Their testimonies are different from those of other Christians. While other Christians give testimonies about what God has done in their lives, most of the testimonies usually involve material things of the world. This is good but there is always something missing.

Other Christians testify about the new cars they just purchased, the new child they just had, the new house they just built and so on. The testimonies of Jehovah’s Witnesses involve turning over a new leaf, giving their lives to Jesus and becoming a model example.

They have different stories on testimonies like these. When you read about people changing and turning over a new leaf, you will be encouraged and you will want to have the same experience. In one of their publications, I read about a Japanese Kamikaze soldier who fought in World War Two and then became a Jehovah’s Witness and began to preach the gospel. I was wowed.

6. THEY ARE ORDERLY AND CALM

Have you ever walked into a Kingdom Hall? As you approach the place, you would believe they are not holding any program because you won’t hear anything. It is only when you enter into the Hall that you will realize that there is a program going on after all.

Other churches love the use of loud speakers. You could be far away and you would hear the different speakers from different churches booming and screaming. Jehovah’s Witnesses’ Kingdom Halls do not pollute the air with noises.

During their programs, they never compete for Bible reading. We all know this. In Pentecostal churches, when the pastor calls a Bible verse, you see fifty people trying to read the same verse at the same time. You would think the fastest reader would be paid for it.

The ‘winner’ is usually the fastest reader. This usually causes fracas among the readers after church services and you may sometimes see two ‘readers’ keeping malice against each other.

The reverse is the case in Kingdom Halls. When a Bible verse is called or when a question is asked, people would raise their hands in order to respond. Everything is calm and quiet. You feel peace in your heart. You forget your problems.

7. SHOW OF LOVE

Many churches in Nigeria love to welcome newcomers. Some churches serve them foods and drinks and collect their phone numbers. The choir members sing a song of welcome and then some top leaders of different groups walk over to the newcomers to shake their hands and welcome. That’s all.

At the end of the program, everyone leaves and forget the newcomer. This occurs in most churches. When a newcomer’s phone number is gotten, all the church want to do is to make sure the newcomer becomes a member and comes always.

In Kingdom Halls, this is different. After the service, almost everyone walks over to you to shake your hand and welcome you with beautiful smiles. Then they politely ask if you would want free Bible study.

There are so many other ways by which the Jehovah’s Witnesses are better Christians than the rest of us and we need to emulate these qualities. There is a very big difference if we are being sincere with ourselves.

Showing love to one another is the key to peaceful nation. Despite the number of churches in Nigeria, in different states and in different streets, corruption is still rampant. Ethnic bigotry and tribalism is till rampant. Something is wrong somewhere and it is all in our hands to change things.

johnw47:
you posted john 15:19 showing how people hate you because you are not of the world
and then in the same post you give quotes of people praising you

johnw47:
lost FALSE JW MAD max

FxMasterz:
So, how does that address the matter of a scripted talk? How does that absorb you of the need for inspired teachings?

MaxInDHouse:
People that hate me like you don't have any reason to do so, can you say anything i did to you in person that's evil?
The answer is "NO"
You only hated me for being one of Jehovah's Witnesses. That's what Jesus meant when he said people the world over will hate his true disciples not because they did anything evil that you can't find elsewhere but because they stick to Jesus' teachings.
Now what about those praising me?
They are praising the true God for the gift in men they are seeing.
Most of them will wonder if someone should tell them that their beloved or so cherished Bible student is one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
That's why you're always following me from thread to thread so as to tell those listening to me to stop listening because i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses!
Just see how you always address me each time you want to call the attention of those following any thread:
So you want everyone to know that this person should be HATED because he is one of Jehovah's Witnesses those that should be taken as MAD PEOPLE! Mark 3:21

johnw47:
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble,
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;
lost false jw mad max
of course you can never stop making up lies in your head just like your father the devil
and of course you are forever full of fearful paranoia:
false jw
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
fearful one
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

MaxInDHouse:
Mark 3:21

Boomark:
Please answer my question first.

I will use your answer to answer your own questions. Don't use questions to dodge the blunders you have already committed. I have seen a lot on this nairaland.

MaxInDHouse:
Are you in agreement with all the religionists claiming Christians on Nairaland?
NO!
So why always quoting and mentioning me as if i owe you money?
Because i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses the one and only organization you hated with passion! John 15:19

Sand2022:
People bully them a lot especially when we were young. I personally passed through such bullying. But so are other Christians with unorthodox doctrines like the Sabbatarians, Mormon, etc. JW doctrines are not conventional, so people harp on that.

You will experience such bully if you're a christians who live areas where the dominant religion is not Christianity. Truth be told, if your beliefs are different, that makes people have fun with you.

What is not known is that JWs bully and persecute those in Christendom if you live in a compound dominated by JWs or if you live with a relative that all members there are JWs. You will be locked for your beliefs, Catholics are the worst hit.



True, JWs do get persecuted and they do well to gather their statistics and fight for their members and make it known widely. Yes.

But christians in Christendom are the most persecuted world over. Check www.persecution.org, as at 2023, there are over 150 million christians veins persecuted world over. This includes JWs, but JWs are only about 20 million. Deduct the total number of JWs from that, you will see that many other denominations are more persecuted.

Many reasons why they are persecuted is based on their wrong understanding of the scriptures. This has put them in harms way most of the times. That is not good anyway. There still christians that got persecuted under Hitler. Even the other Bible Student groups were also persecuted.

So I disagree with this point.



Yap. I agree. JWs are better on that aspect.



That's not true. Other churches have their members here on nairaland preach regularly. In fact, if you do a count, there are more in Christendom preaching here than JWs. Do a count.

JWs a required to turn in a field service report each month. For regular Pioneers, they are required to submit 50hrs or more each month. This is a most preach tactics. So some do preach on social media to make up the hour.

I see more people on TikTok who preach, sing gospel songs or teach the bible on TikTok, YouTube who are those of Christendom than I see JWs do the same on this platforms. In fact, many I know who are JWs on TikTok don't preach.



Yes, door to door or cart witnessing is one way witnesses do more than others I know.

But don't compare when it comes to public witnessing like the apostles in the scriptures. The Evangelicals Trump's Witnesses ten fold. Tv, Radio, YouTube, TikTok are full of many Christians evangelizing. Some of them are not required to submit any report, yet they evangelize. When you enter a bus, who are always the ones who lead in prayer and preach in buses? In fact if a JW is in that bus, he won't participate either in prayer or songs.



While many testimonies in churches may be about wealth, not all of them. With regards to turning to Jesus. No. JWs will rather say dedicating their lives to Jehovah than giving their life to Jesus.

But I agree that wealth is not the focal point among JWs. This is good. But not all church testimonies revolve around wealth.



That's true. The meetings are well organized. No noise. But moderate noice isn't wrong in itself. The festivals carried by Jews for eg in temple dedication were loud and noisy. That is not a big issue, although today's society may frown at that.



Jehovah's witnesses love themselves. Yes. But don't move that to love for others. That is almost zero. All the welcome they show you is because they either welcome their preaching, attend their meetings or read their publications. They try alot to get you to become a member. If on the other hand, you invite them to your church, give them your church books, they won't accept it. Even if you pray, they won't close their eyes. When someone wants you to welcome his and ignore yours, thats not love. It is a way to get you to become one of them.

On the other hand, churches preach to you, and encourage you as you engage in Christian evangelical activities. You are here commending the witnesses for what they do, the last thing a JWs will do is to write an article like this about other churches. NEVER!

Even if all the church today die as Martyrs, JWs will not write a post here commending your faith as a true Christian faith. To them you are false and died in falsehood. Christians will defend JWs and report their bravery, but they won't do the same for you. Have you ever seen any JWs or their website write about the Chibok girls or any brave Christian in Nigeria? Never.

The true Christian live if you ask me is done by Christendom. They can organize a humanitarian aid that will cater for anyone, they can give to widows and orphans without asking which church they belong. JWs only go for their members. Their love is like the tax collectors and sinners who love those who love them. Christendom love those who love them and love even JWs who hate them.

Just attend their meetings one month and see whether you will not hear any derogatory comment about Christendom. But you may attend church a year without any Pastor castigate the witnesses. Some pastors even collect their books and read. They can't collect yours even you give it free.

MaxInDHouse:
why always quoting and mentioning me as if i owe you money?

MaxInDHouse: Your hatred for JWs is so great in your heart

MaxInDHouse: People that hate me like you
You only hated me for being one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
this person should be HATED because he is one of Jehovah's Witnesses

MaxInDHouse:
i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses the one and only organization you hated with passion! John 15:19

MaxInDHouse: your bitterness against God's people.

FxMasterz:
My friend. There's nothing you can use to justify a scripted talk in teaching the gospel to people.

Yeah, you can come together to prepare for a teaching. We do that very well in Sunday school preparations. A head teacher teaches other teachers so that they would understand the topic very well before teaching it on Sunday but there's no scripting of any kind.

I can't see any relevance of your questions to the matter at hand.Every teaching naturally aligns with the Bible. The Holy Ghost speaks His Words through the teacher, and the Holy Ghost cannot contract Himself.

I don't understand your question. We talk about alignment only. Not whether something you teach is in the Bible or not.

Boomark:
My brother, I know you understood my question very well. My question only made you to realise the errors in all that you said. So your Sunday school teacher that know all truth still have to do preparation so that what they will teach will have alignment while Jehovah's witness teacher is doing scripting.

Question:
What do you mean by scripting done by Jehovah's witness teachers as you said?

I hope you won't tell me again that you don't understand my question again.

johnw47:
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble,
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;


lost false jw mad max

Mar 3:21  When His own people heard of this, they went out to take custody of Him; for they were saying, "He has lost His senses.

oh duh deluded one, you cannot be compared to Jesus
Jesus never blasphemed the Holy Spirit
Jesus didn't lie like hell
Jesus didn't brag
Jesus wasn't mentally diseased repeating the same things over and over and over and over again, etc.

mad max, unlike Jesus you have lost your senses, mind you i don't recall you ever being sane

johnw47:
i fortunately don't hate, but i certainly don't like you people who claim to be God's people
but lie like hell etc. etc. etc.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy we are saying exactly the same thing here.
There was a time they knew Jesus to be a young and vibrant carpenter who is making his family proud with the profession of his father but after his baptism he became something else zealously preaching and industriously teaching in all the territory about God's Kingdom.
Have you ever regarded any member of JWs as being sane before? NO!
So going by your hypocrisy once an individual becomes a member of Jehovah's Witnesses such a person becomes just like our Master, Lord and King to you.
They have all lost their senses! Mark 3:21

FxMasterz:
Why are you asking me the question? Someone made the statement about JW scripting their talks. Normally, I'll call your fellow brothers to shed more lights on that but they always insult me and have said I should stop mentioning them.

You should know the meaning of the word. You don't need to ask me for clarification.

Of course, I had to read my own meaning to your question because it is totally disconnected from what obtains in the christian fold. I would rather ask you if you teach in absolute alignment with the Bible, rather than ask if everything you teach is in the Bible. The question is a very proud question with many loopholes. It's so vague because it didn't address any issue. If you used the word 'alignment', I would have immediately grasped what you were saying.

Now, are you saying your talks are not scripted? If you're only prepared for teaching and allowed the freedom of teaching without being contained by some ready-made sermon, then it's okay. There a problem if the reverse is the case.

We do prepare for Sunday school because there's a general manual that every member of a church work wide must follow. However if you're the one to give the sermon (which I find to be the direct equivalent of your talks), there'll be no one preparing you for that. Apart from giving you a topic to preach on, no one tells you what to say. You're completely dependent on the Holy Spirit to inspire you after much prayer and personal study. In all, whatever you preach must align with the Scriptures.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you mention one church that has never lied from your own standpoint?
NO!
Because none of them stands out like Jehovah's Witnesses so you have no problem with them no matter what they say!

Boomark:
As in, you don't even understand the meaning of the SCRIPTING you accused Jehovah's witnesses of doing? I asked you the first one from what you said, you said you don't know. I asked you the second question from another thing you said, you also still don't know the meaning of what you said. You don't even have the spirit of discernment to understand what you said yourself but you are busy mocking them.

I will not be the one to interpret the scripting you mentioned for you. This is simply the delusion I was talking about. You believe in falsehood and cannot even explain yourself.

If anyone has nsulted you before, this is just the reason. Because you say something and don't even understand what you are saying.

If you are a Sunday school teacher and you can't explain whatever you have said, then you are operating in the flesh. The spirit of truth, boldness, and discernment is totally absent. Everything you are doing is canal.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy we are saying exactly the same thing here.
There was a time they knew Jesus to be a young and vibrant carpenter who is making his family proud with the profession of his father but after his baptism he became something else zealously preaching and industriously teaching in all the territory about God's Kingdom.
Have you ever regarded any member of JWs as being sane before? NO!
So going by your hypocrisy once an individual becomes a member of Jehovah's Witnesses such a person becomes just like our Master, Lord and King to you.
They have all lost their senses! Mark 3:21

johnw47: mad max, unlike Jesus you have lost your senses, mind you i don't recall you ever being sane