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Originalsly:
His finding is fake. Didn't he say it was a brownish image of a 6 foot 5 inch man? How can that be of Jesus when Jesus is White? ....judging from the images in most of our homes ... churches and our minds? How can the majority wrong?

THERE WAS NOBODY CALLED JESUS CHRIST.

IT’S A FCKING LIE.

OH SURE THE “SON OF GOD” CAME TO THE EARTH, AND WALKED ON WATER AND CHANGED WATER TO WINE AND CHANGED 4 FISHES TO 500 TO PROVE HE WAS THE SON OF GOD. THEN DIED AND WOKE UP AFTER 3 DAYS IN SACRIFICE FOR HUMANITY.

WHY DIDN’T HE JUST SLEEP FOR THREE DAYS INSTEAD OF GETTING HIMSELF KILLED AND WAKING UP AFTER THREE DAYS? WHERE IS THE SACRIFICE? A SACRIFICE IS WHEN YOU STAY DEAD. NOT WAKING UP AFTER THREE DAYS.

STUPID FAKE STORIES FOR TODDLERS.

HE COULDN’T HIS MAGIC POWER TO END HUNGER AND DISEASE AND WARFARE.

HE USED IT TO PERFORM STREET MAGIC TRICKS, DIED FOR THREE DAYS AND FLEW BACK TO HEAVEN FROM A DINNER TABLE AFTER SAYING “SORRY I CANNOT END HUMANITY’S SUFFERING NOW. WHEN I COME BACK IN THREE THOUSAND YEARS TIME I WILL END THEM. JUST MAKE SURE YOU WORSHIP ME TILL I COME BACK, OR I WILL BURN YOU ALL IN HELLFIRE”.

FCKING STUPID FAIRYTALE RUBBISH.

joshkke:
Fantastic! With this your big brain and infallible intellect, there's nothing between you and the $1m offered for proving the shroud is a fraud.

Did I indicate that I wrote those things? Did you not see the links?

Urgent1Million:
The dude was never an atheist.
It's a carefully planned act to trend and make money from the sales of books and proceeds from social media.
Watch as christians will start following him and anything he has to say.
If I want to make money out of ignorant christians, all I need to do is to publicly declare to be an anti-Christ.
Christians will do nothing about it other hold vigils, fast and pray to their God to have mercy on me or strike me dead or make me to repent.
The moment I know that I've got their attention, I'll be "arrested" by Jesus and begin to preach the gospel.
My followers would be way more than those who follow people who've been in ministry for a much longer period.

I just might do it. Lemme chop the money of sheeple too. Tax free money is very sweet.

God doesn't exist

LordReed:
LoLz. You are look for who to fight, you miss road o. Bye.

Atheist without no brain. Really you guys came out of nothing, no wonder!

La-di-da-di-da!

All I know is NOBODY TRULY KNOWS, we're all making assumptions, the only common thing is we are Human Beings; we have to live with one another, forgive and tolerate each other and try to live in peace with one another.

Every knee must bow, and every tongue must confess that Jesus Christ is the Lord over all.

OLAADEGBU:
Atheist CONVERTS To Christianity After Scientists Analysed The Cloth Jesus Was Buried In

'I cannot possibly understand anything else that could have produced that image'.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13762095/atheist-shroud-turin-jesus-cloth-documentary.html?ito=social-facebook

LordReed:
I just might do it. Lemme chop the money of sheeple too. Tax free money is very sweet.

Remember to bring my share oo...
Even if na 10%.
It's my idea you'll be using, you know.
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Na mumu dey believe all this stories dem

nesphil:
Every knee must bow, and every tongue must confess that Jesus Christ is the Lord over all.

Oga, shut up abeg! Allow us hear word!

OLAADEGBU:
The resemblance is uncanny 😳 Read more: https://trib.al/QRmgRHi

That means Jesus truly black. There's a kind of glory around the image.

jaephoenix:
By the way, for this retarded post, more christians convert to atheism, than the other way round

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_nontheism

Try to read before you type

With what you write now, you can see that not every knee bow and not every tongue confess that jesus is lord. I lot of controversy in Christianity , jesus was black man with coiled hair, all we’re seeing in church and home is white man with blond hair. Christianity has been adulterated so much, bible has been bastardized over the years.

nesphil:
Every knee must bow, and every tongue must confess that Jesus Christ is the Lord over all.

That one no be atheist. Na OOO hin be

jaephoenix:
You actually want an atheist to come out so you can maim and segregate the person? Why don't you got to core north and tell them on the streets that you're a christian, idiota?

Shouldn't they be proud of what they believe in? Hia!

omoredia:
To think that ur stupidity will end when u finally die should let u know that with God anything is possible

With God ,gruesomely killing God in cold blood is possible ?


The problem is that you don't realize that you are the stupid one here 😆

Krismas:
not in Nigeria so far.
A man was supposedly buried in Jerusalem but his burial clothes was found in Italy?
Religion is the most stupid drug anyone can be high on

I always find it funny how the god of the Hebrews has a spokesman whose position is a relic of ancient Roman religion.

I wonder what Octavian Caesar would have thought if told that the position he once occupied “Pontifex Maximus”, would one day be office of the head of the Christian religion that venerates a Jew and the god of the Hebrews.

History is hilariously ridiculous as is most human activity.

You think the “shroud of Turin” is stupid. You should read about Constantine’s mother in Judea during the 4th century. They found the “true cross” 300 years after the alleged event. Lmao

DeAdvokate:
But Jesus didn't die according to the Glorious Qura'an ...

Sura 4 - Ayat 157

And because they said, “We have killed the Messiah, Eisa the son of Maryam, the Messenger of Allah”; they did not slay him nor did they crucify him, but a look-alike was created for them; and those who disagree concerning it are in doubt about it; they know nothing of it, except the following of assumptions; and without doubt, they did not kill him.

Sura 4 - Ayat 158

In fact Allah raised him towards Himself; and Allah is Almighty, Wise.

Allah had no reason to raise Jesus.

Yaweh is not Allah.

They are two different Gods.

Urgent1Million:
Remember to bring my share oo...
Even if na 10%.
It's my idea you'll be using, you know.
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No worry you go chop breakfast.

LordReed:
https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2020/02/24/sorry-the-shroud-of-turin-is-definitely-a-hoax/

What’s even more interesting is that the arms of the figure on the Turin Shroud are also different lengths. The right forearm is noticeably longer than the left forearm. The fact that the arms aren’t the same length is almost a dead giveaway that we’re looking at an image created by an artist and not the exact likeness of a real human being. Real human beings virtually always have arms of the same length, but it is really easy for an artist to mess up and make arms that aren’t the same length.

Finally, we have a smoking gun: the front side of the figure on the shroud doesn’t match the back side of the figure. In fact, the two figures aren’t even the same length; the front side of the figure on the shroud is 1.95 meters long, but the figure on the back of the shroud is 2.02 meters long!

This is absolutely a dead giveaway that we’re looking at the work of an artist. It’s easy to see how an artist could have painted the figures separately and accidentally made the back side of the figure longer than the front side, but it is hard to see how, if the shroud were authentic, Jesus’s back could have been longer than his front. That in itself would take some kind of miracle.

I suggest that you do us all a favor. Go lie down on your back. Now, remember that you're a dead person, so keep your triceps (the back part of your upper arms) on the floor like a dead person.

Now cover your penis or your mons (the V of your thighs where your pubic hair grows) with your hands--without removing your arms from the floor. Remember, you're both dead, but also really, really prissy and don't want anyone to see your crotch.

Go on, we'll wait. Report back how you were able to cover your groin with your hands whilst dead and with your arms flopping around like fishes.

They may have (maybe, if you trust catholics) changed the "carbon dating" part, but there are still loads and loads of other problems with this silly thing. There's nothing to be afraid of.

More fun reading:

https://medium.com/@kylejohnson_40581/let-go-of-the-shroud-part-i-a89258494835

https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/the_fraud_of_turin/

The intellectually dishonest presentation even carried the unchallenged assertion that no artistic materials were found on the cloth. In fact, famed microanalyst Walter McCrone discovered that the body image (in contrast to off-image areas) had significant amounts of artist’s pigment. The show repeated the false assertion that the “blood” stains were “human” blood, when in fact they failed batteries of forensic serological tests for blood, and McCrone identified the suspiciously still-red substance as red ocher and vermilion tempera paint.

The right forearm is noticeably longer than the left forearm. Which human arm is exactly the same length with another arm... start with yours

Gabangel:
The right forearm is noticeably longer than the left forearm. Which human arm is exactly the same length with another arm... start with yours

Normal arm length differences are not noticeable at a glance and the difference is usual less than 2cm.

Gabangel:
The right forearm is noticeably longer than the left forearm. Which human arm is exactly the same length with another arm... start with yours

Why is there a discrepancy in the length/height of the figure with regards to the front and back views? What would explain that?

TenQ:
Let's assume that your claims are true and Jesus was neither killed nor crucified
1. Who was killed instead of Jesus?
2. Why did Allah decide to deceive Mary the mother of Jesus with ALL the disciples of Jesus with the Romans and Jews?
3. In whose presence was Jesus taken up to heaven (any evidence)?
4. Why would the Jews killed their Messiah?
5. Why did Allah wait for 600 years after creating Christianity before telling them that Jesus wasn't killed nor crucified?


I will love if you have a logical and reasonable answers for the above questions

DeAdvokate:
But Jesus didn't die according to the Glorious Qura'an ...

Sura 4 - Ayat 157

And because they said, “We have killed the Messiah, Eisa the son of Maryam, the Messenger of Allah”; they did not slay him nor did they crucify him, but a look-alike was created for them; and those who disagree concerning it are in doubt about it; they know nothing of it, except the following of assumptions; and without doubt, they did not kill him.

Sura 4 - Ayat 158

In fact Allah raised him towards Himself; and Allah is Almighty, Wise.

LtChisom:
It's important to note that it's best to look into what the Quran says about Jesus Christ. According to Islamic tradition, Jesus, whose name is Isa, is mentioned twenty-five times in the Quran. According to my knowledge, the name of Isa (Jesus) is mentioned the most in the Quran in the Surah Al-Maryam (Mary), Chapter 19.

In the Quran, the name of Isa is mentioned a total of 25 times, and 15 of those mentions are in Surah Al-Maryam. Some key verses in Surah Al-Maryam that mention Prophet Isa include: Verse 19:15 - And peace be upon him the day he was born and the day he dies and the day he is raised alive. Verse 19:33 - And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive. Verses 19:16-34 - This section provides a detailed account of the birth and life of Isa. In the same surah verse 19:19, its mentioned that Jesus is sinless the statement in the Surah is supported hy Hadist Sahih Al Bukhari 3431 mentioning the same. In Surah Al Maidah verse 110 its mentioned that Isa raise the death.

Surah Al-Maryam, which focuses on the life of Prophet Isa's mother Maryam (Mary), contains the most mentions of Isa's name in the Quran.

Here are some of the key hadith that mention Jesus (Isa) in Islam: Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 43, Hadith 656: By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly. Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 293: The Messenger of Allah said: I am the nearest of all the people to the son of Mary, and all the prophets are paternal brothers, and there has been no prophet between me and him. Sunan Ibn Majah, Book 36, Hadith 4080: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus son of Mary. Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Hadith 658: The Son of Mary will soon descend amongst you as a just ruler.

These hadith indicate that Jesus (Isa) is highly revered in Islam as a prophet of God, and that he will return in the end times to establish justice on Earth. The hadith emphasize the close connection between Mohammad and Jesus. Jesus told His disciples to be aware of the prophets that may come after Him. The warning about false prophets that Jesus gave to his disciples is found in the Gospel of Matthew, chapter 7, verses 15-20: Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.

In this passage, Jesus warns his followers to be vigilant and discerning regarding those who claim to be prophets or teachers, as some will be false and deceptive. He instructs them to judge these individuals by the fruits or evidence of their teachings and actions, rather than just their outward appearance or claims.

Now between Jesus Christ and Mohammad SAW, who is the noblest❓Can you also inform the reader how Jesus Christ could be friends to Mohammad❓ Jesus Christ is the Noblest among two, how the Noble be friends to an ordinary person❓ Jesus Christ is a humble and loving God, but he dispise evil doers.

Heavensake1:
Quran always quoting Bible and twisting its words. Why Quran came in existence to attack the people of the book and the book. God is not pett So He didn't send Quran to attack Bible. Bible never talked about any book or people of any book because God is not petty.

@Itchisom: Even if present and historical contexts may present barriers between nobles and ordinary people, both the Bible and core Christian teachings advocate for inclusivity and equality among all individuals. There is no explicit discouragement against nobles mixing with ordinary people; rather, there are numerous examples encouraging such interactions based on love, compassion, and mutual respect.

It can be concluded that the Bible does not discourage nobles from mixing with ordinary ; instead, it promotes inclusivity and equality among all individuals.

Pride goes before a fall. Don't be like Lucifer or Satan


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aeOX8tLQKo?si=lhGQ9j914y6L2nk8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOm47lKllQ4?si=Ykqm267-REWzpoMz

victorDanladi:
With God ,gruesomely killing God in cold blood is possible ?


The problem is that you don't realize that you are the stupid one here 😆

But u can kill fowl to eat. Are u more important than a fowl to God?

DeAdvokate:
But Jesus didn't die according to the Glorious Qura'an ...

Sura 4 - Ayat 157

And because they said, “We have killed the Messiah, Eisa the son of Maryam, the Messenger of Allah”; they did not slay him nor did they crucify him, but a look-alike was created for them; and those who disagree concerning it are in doubt about it; they know nothing of it, except the following of assumptions; and without doubt, they did not kill him.

Sura 4 - Ayat 158

In fact Allah raised him towards Himself; and Allah is Almighty, Wise.

Guess secular history and the disciples of Jesus who were eye witnesses and eventually were martyred for insisting he died and resurrected then ascended into heaven are wrong and the Quran written 600 years after is right

honesttalk21:
@Itchisom: Even if present and historical contexts may present barriers between nobles and ordinary people, both the Bible and core Christian teachings advocate for inclusivity and equality among all individuals. There is no explicit discouragement against nobles mixing with ordinary people; rather, there are numerous examples encouraging such interactions based on love, compassion, and mutual respect.

It can be concluded that the Bible does not discourage nobles from mixing with ordinary ; instead, it promotes inclusivity and equality among all individuals.

Pride goes before a fall. Don't be like Lucifer or Satan


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aeOX8tLQKo?si=lhGQ9j914y6L2nk8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOm47lKllQ4?si=Ykqm267-REWzpoMz

Your second video full of assumptions and speculations says that Jesus was crucified BUT did NOT die : is this your position?

The first video is purely Islamic, thus if we assume that it is a true claim you should be able to answer my questions

Let's assume that your claims are true and Jesus was neither killed nor crucified
1. Who was killed instead of Jesus?
2. Why did Allah decide to deceive Mary the mother of Jesus with ALL the disciples of Jesus with the Romans and Jews?
3. In whose presence was Jesus taken up to heaven (any evidence)?
4. Why would the Jews killed their Messiah?
5. Why did Allah wait for 600 years after creating Christianity before telling them that Jesus wasn't killed nor crucified?


I will love if you have a logical and reasonable answers for the above questions.

Thank you!

nairaman66:
You can apply for the man’s one million dollars giveaway.. such a dvmb fvck Haha

Don't mind those that have anything to give except putting forward their baseless wishes. Let them go scientific and prove the man. This is about science. Now they are running away.

ReacherSaidNoth:
Fake nonsense. The Shroud of Turin is a proven fraud. It is just a piece of art that is no where near 2000 years old.

A piece of art. Reproduce that art as a proof!

pafo:
That is because you people don't realize how incredibly stupid you sound when quoting your holy book.

What's the point in arguing with a mad man??

Meanwhile your date system is from the holy book. How m@d can you get? May be you are more m@d. You know m@d person think others are m@d while he is okay.

ceejay80s:
Seun pls do something about nairaland site always going through cloudflare on opera mini, it's really frustrating and data consuming

Does on chrome too.

Mpanyi:
Meanwhile your date system is from the holy book. How m@d can you get? May be you are more m@d. You know m@d person think others are m@d while he is okay.

What date system is from the book?