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Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by itzadorable333: 7:29pm On Aug 25, 2024
OLAADEGBU:
Atheist CONVERTS To Christianity After Scientists Analysed The Cloth Jesus Was buried In

'I cannot possibly understand anything else that could have produced that image'.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13762095/atheist-shroud-turin-jesus-cloth-documentary.html?ito=social-facebook
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come , except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
2 Thessalonians 2:3
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by honesttalk21: 7:48pm On Aug 25, 2024
TenQ:
Your second video full of assumptions and speculations says that Jesus was crucified BUT did NOT die : is this your position?

The first video is purely Islamic, thus if we assume that it is a true claim you should be able to answer my questions

Let's assume that your claims are true and Jesus was neither killed nor crucified


1. Who was killed instead of Jesus?
2. Why did Allah decide to deceive Mary the mother of Jesus with ALL the disciples of Jesus with the Romans and Jews?
3. In whose presence was Jesus taken up to heaven (any evidence)?
4. Why would the Jews killed their Messiah?
5. Why did Allah wait for 600 years after creating Christianity before telling them that Jesus wasn't killed nor crucified?


I will love if you have a logical and reasonable answers for the above questions.

Thank you!
The first video makes reference to Psalm 91:10-16. Is this from a book of Islam or the Bible of Christianity?

Do you say it is not a prophesy of the messiah in person of Jesus?

Is this a prophesy that doesn't align with Jesus?

Does Satan not quote Psalm 91 to Jesus in the wilderness (Matt 4:6)?
That is:
6. I f you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:
He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.

In context of Psalm 91:11 For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways;

12 they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.

Does saving Jesus not align with him not being crucified or killed?

Psalm 91:
15 He will call on me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life I will satisfy him
and show him my salvation.”
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by nairaman66(m): 8:21pm On Aug 25, 2024
Mpanyi:
Don't mind those that have anything to give except putting forward their baseless wishes. Let them go scientific and prove the man. This is about science. Now they are running away.
My bro.., some people just need to be out in the trash bin!
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by TenQ: 8:53pm On Aug 25, 2024
honesttalk21:
The first video makes reference to Psalm 91:10-16. Is this from a book of Islam or the Bible of Christianity?

Do you say it is not a prophesy of the messiah in person of Jesus?

Is this a prophesy that doesn't align with Jesus?

Does Satan not quote Psalm 91 to Jesus in the wilderness (Matt 4:6)?
That is:
6. I f you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:
He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.

In context of Psalm 91:11 For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways;

12 they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.

Does saving Jesus not align with him not being crucified or killed?

Psalm 91:
15 He will call on me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life I will satisfy him
and show him my salvation.”
Psalm 91 is not a scripture exclusively referring to the Messiah as it refers to every believer who put his trust in God.

BUT let even if you insist that it is refering to Jesus,
1. Jesus did not live beyond 33 years old on earth (this, he didn't have any long life)
2. Jesus did not come down from any height for which angels would have prevented him from dashing His foot on the stone
3. You may wish to tell us who the thousands are who fell by the right and left hand of Jesus

Unfortunately, these doesn't even solve your problem.

Let's assume that your claims are true and Jesus was neither killed nor crucified
1. Who was killed instead of Jesus?
2. Why did Allah decide to deceive Mary the mother of Jesus with ALL the disciples of Jesus with the Romans and Jews?
3. In whose presence was Jesus taken up to heaven (any evidence)?
4. Why would the Jews killed their Messiah?
5. Why did Allah wait for 600 years after creating Christianity before telling them that Jesus wasn't killed nor crucified?



I will love if you have a logical and reasonable answers for the above questions.
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by Nefort: 9:33pm On Aug 25, 2024
jaephoenix:
You actually want an atheist to come out so you can maim and segregate the person? Why don't you got to core north and tell them on the streets that you're a christian, idiota?
I have never ever seen or heard Christians maiming and segregating atheists. Christians don't even maim or segregate people who insult Jesus before we talk about atheists.
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by Nefort: 9:35pm On Aug 25, 2024
LordReed:
So that bigots like you can make their lives miserable, init.
That's not an excuse. Nobody gives a Bleep about atheists.
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by BeigJawnson(m): 9:42pm On Aug 25, 2024
DeAdvokate:
But Jesus didn't die according to the Glorious Qura'an ...

Sura 4 - Ayat 157

And because they said, “We have killed the Messiah, Eisa the son of Maryam, the Messenger of Allah”; they did not slay him nor did they crucify him, but a look-alike was created for them; and those who disagree concerning it are in doubt about it; they know nothing of it, except the following of assumptions; and without doubt, they did not kill him.

Sura 4 - Ayat 158

In fact Allah raised him towards Himself; and Allah is Almighty, Wise.
Piss off... Go to Israel and tell the Christians there that Jesus Christ didn't died and see their reaction...

So your Quran wants to know more than the Christians in Israel?
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by Nobody: 9:51pm On Aug 25, 2024
LordReed:
So that bigots like you can make their lives miserable, init.
Those bigots exist only in the north. The dammed region!
jaephoenix:
You actually want an atheist to come out so you can maim and segregate the person? Why don't you got to core north and tell them on the streets that you're a christian, idiota?
Thunder fire you and those core north!
It's that north that fit atheists like you. You piss of poó talk anyhow against the cross but are chickens to head slammers!
Now eat this shit!

Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by Nobody: 9:53pm On Aug 25, 2024
DeAdvokate:
But Jesus didn't die according to the Glorious Qura'an ...

Sura 4 - Ayat 157

And because they said, “We have killed the Messiah, Eisa the son of Maryam, the Messenger of Allah”; they did not slay him nor did they crucify him, but a look-alike was created for them; and those who disagree concerning it are in doubt about it; they know nothing of it, except the following of assumptions; and without doubt, they did not kill him.

Sura 4 - Ayat 158

In fact Allah raised him towards Himself; and Allah is Almighty, Wise.
You deserve blasphemy treatment from ya fellow janjawēeds!
Modafucker!
You can twist ya koran but never in ya life twist da Bible.

Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by jaxxy(m): 10:14pm On Aug 25, 2024
ReacherSaidNoth:
Dumbass, there is ample evidence that the big bang happened. If you are in doubt, the internet will help clear your ignorance.
I sincerely hope ur joking. U possibly can't be dumb or naive?

Even the clowns that wrote the trash don't believe it.
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by alobright17(m): 10:28pm On Aug 25, 2024
EreluRoz:
Atheists are not well before before

How many of them are bold to come out as an atheist, they always hide but have front row seats in churches while they practice their atheist online. Example is Seun, Seun is a very prominent member of RCCG, he can't even deny it.
when are you going to North Korea to preach gospel!?
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by jaephoenix(m): 11:33pm On Aug 25, 2024
judedwriter:
The fool says in his heart that there is no God...Psalms 14:1

But what really amazes me about atheists is the fact that they deny the existence of the very one who created them in His own image.

Beyond the shround of Turin (if it's authentic) Jesus is the same, yesterday, today and forever!
Was Hitler created in Yahweh's image?
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by jaephoenix(m): 11:36pm On Aug 25, 2024
phr0nesis:
I'll assume you didn't read the article. There's a scientific claim there that it is even older than 2000 years
And obviously you didn't know this Shroud of Turin is a fake.
Besides I was talking to the dolt that said atheists should go public in Nigeria
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by TheWinterBird(m): 11:51pm On Aug 25, 2024
Hallelujah. Jesus is Lord.
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by Myer(m): 1:17am On Aug 26, 2024
OLAADEGBU:
Atheist CONVERTS To Christianity After Scientists Analysed The Cloth Jesus Was buried In

'I cannot possibly understand anything else that could have produced that image'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13762095/atheist-shroud-turin-jesus-cloth-documentary.html?ito=social-facebook
Truth is the primary thing, anyone who is honest/truthful will know that there is God. We see his work in our lives and all around us everyday.
And when one obtain favor from God, you'll find Jesus Christ and receive the grace to see and enter into the kingdom of God. John 3.

The challenge with this generation is many have become more of scientologists while claiming to be atheists. They don't want to believe until some thing is scientifically proven.
Be that as it may, the template remain to believe first, then you will begin to see. Because that is also how we live as Christians. Everyone else might be talking according to reality, but we speak what is written in the word of God and what is revealed to us. Selah
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by LordReed(m): 2:17am On Aug 26, 2024
Nefort:
That's not an excuse. Nobody gives a Bleep about atheists.
Great. Leave us be then.
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by LtChisom: 5:39am On Aug 26, 2024
Why was I quoted?



honesttalk21:
@Itchisom: Even if present and historical contexts may present barriers between nobles and ordinary people, both the Bible and core Christian teachings advocate for inclusivity and equality among all individuals. There is no explicit discouragement against nobles mixing with ordinary people; rather, there are numerous examples encouraging such interactions based on love, compassion, and mutual respect.

It can be concluded that the Bible does not discourage nobles from mixing with ordinary ; instead, it promotes inclusivity and equality among all individuals.

Pride goes before a fall. Don't be like Lucifer or Satan


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aeOX8tLQKo?si=lhGQ9j914y6L2nk8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOm47lKllQ4?si=Ykqm267-REWzpoMz
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by LtChisom: 5:40am On Aug 26, 2024
Krismas:
grin your Jesus is also the fake one
You are right, are you fine now?
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by phr0nesis(m): 7:07am On Aug 26, 2024
jaephoenix:
And obviously you didn't know this Shroud of Turin is a fake.
Besides I was talking to the dolt that said atheists should go public in Nigeria
Let's just say, I quoted the wrong person.
I wanted to quote the guy who said it was impossible for the cloth to last that long
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by Nefort: 7:38am On Aug 26, 2024
LordReed:
Great. Leave us be then.
Nobody was holding you in the first place. Atheists are actually the ones who make fun of Christians. If I go to Instagram and type "May God help us", atheists will spring out from nowhere to tell me there is no God.
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by LordReed(m): 8:31am On Aug 26, 2024
Nefort:
Nobody was holding you in the first place. Atheists are actually the ones who make fun of Christians. If I go to Instagram and type "May God help us", atheists will spring out from nowhere to tell me there is no God.
Guess what will happen if I went on Instagram and typed "Enjoying my life without belief in a god"
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by Krismas(m): 9:24am On Aug 26, 2024
LtChisom:
You are right, are you fine now?
shocked I wasn’t trolling! Maybe u see visions, it’s nothing. Psychic doctors can place certain electrodes in areas of ur skull and make u see hellfire, heaven or pope John Paul 2 or even experience rapture or converse with Joe Biden at the Oval Office. All these proofs nothing. Seeing vision, hearing voices etc. why the likes of you allow urselfs to be fooled by paranormal events or brainwashed by fear-peddling fake Ecclesiastes is unfortunate
Re: Atheist CONVERTS After Scientists Analysed The Cloth 'Jesus Was Buried In' by Krismas(m): 9:39am On Aug 26, 2024
honesttalk21:
@Itchisom: Even if present and historical contexts may present barriers between nobles and ordinary people, both the Bible and core Christian teachings advocate for inclusivity and equality among all individuals. There is no explicit discouragement against nobles mixing with ordinary people; rather, there are numerous examples encouraging such interactions based on love, compassion, and mutual respect.

It can be concluded that the Bible does not discourage nobles from mixing with ordinary ; instead, it promotes inclusivity and equality among all individuals.

Pride goes before a fall. Don't be like Lucifer or Satan


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aeOX8tLQKo?si=lhGQ9j914y6L2nk8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOm47lKllQ4?si=Ykqm267-REWzpoMz
shocked No religion is more RACIST, SUPREMACIST, COLONIALIST and DISCRIMINATORY than the Christian religion.
All the Orthodox Church bought and sold African slaves.
All the orthodox churches preached from their pulpit that enslaving Africans was the will of god
All Orthodox churches believed fervently that White race was superior to black race
Most Christians in Nigeria look down on African traditional religion as inferior and damned.
The Christian faith is a useless LIE, filled with manipulations and was initially propagated via mass intimidation and rule of force.
No single aspect of the Christian faith is true. All it’s precepts are fraudulent and nations where it’s core teachings are taken wholeheartedly remain some of the most corrupt and impoverished countries in this world
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