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StillDtruth:
See it now that you cannot counter the next thing you do is to make accusation.

No where did i say God is not everwhere. But i definitely said I don't need to be close to a person to see and to know.

cutecommend:
Almost every Sunday, people go to church to worship God. Many go prepared and properly dressed. In some of these churches, there are exciting and nice activities that keep members excited, but even with the excitements, God is not really there.

As you keep attending church, remember that you are responsible for your soul, and you need to make the right decision on the kind of church you are going to so that you may not damn your soul.

Signs You are Attending a Dead or Dying Church.

(1) If true Holiness Message and solid doctrine is irritating, boring and unexciting to its members. But dancing, jumping, comedy, shouting wooo etc are more preferred to sound doctrine.

(2) If seductive and indecent dressing is highly tolerated, and some of the guys in church department plait hair.

(3) If members are ashamed to hold bible (physical bible) on the road while going to church.

(4) If comedians are coming to the pulpit to jest and tell lies to make people laugh.

(5) If such church makes you live comfortably in sin, while using grace message to make you feel alright even in sin.

(6) If prayers for repentance, consecration, fruits of the spirit, sanctification, purification, character development is put aside, while prayers for vision, prosperity, impact, taking territories, getting visa, going to the next levels, goals, purpose etc is emphasized more.

(7) If such church makes you have no thought or little awareness of the coming of Christ.

Everyday247:
Op you do not understand, if the church implemented strict standards, many will not come to church. And if many do not come to church, that means insufficient tithe and offerings to fund buying of private jets i mean the spreading of the word of God.

AntiChristian:
Church get life? And which church Jesus attend every Sunday/Saturday of his life?

Which choir band play for am?

Which pastor preach for am?

99thEnemy:
Can you even tell how the bible came about?

I bet you can’t and don’t even know how.

Ojuntana:
Psalm 139: 7-12,15:

Jeremiah 23: 24:

Can you explain how any of those two passages mean God is everywhere?
Note: In Bible chronology, Psalm 139 is titled as God's perfect knowledge of Man. Jeremiah 23 is talking about God's condemnation of false prophets.

cutecommend:
Almost every Sunday, people go to church to worship God. Many go prepared and properly dressed. In some of these churches, there are exciting and nice activities that keep members excited, but even with the excitements, God is not really there.

As you keep attending church, remember that you are responsible for your soul, and you need to make the right decision on the kind of church you are going to so that you may not damn your soul.

Signs You are Attending a Dead or Dying Church.

(1) If true Holiness Message and solid doctrine is irritating, boring and unexciting to its members. But dancing, jumping, comedy, shouting wooo etc are more preferred to sound doctrine.

(2) If seductive and indecent dressing is highly tolerated, and some of the guys in church department plait hair.

(3) If members are ashamed to hold bible (physical bible) on the road while going to church.

(4) If comedians are coming to the pulpit to jest and tell lies to make people laugh.

(5) If such church makes you live comfortably in sin, while using grace message to make you feel alright even in sin.

(6) If prayers for repentance, consecration, fruits of the spirit, sanctification, purification, character development is put aside, while prayers for vision, prosperity, impact, taking territories, getting visa, going to the next levels, goals, purpose etc is emphasized more.

(7) If such church makes you have no thought or little awareness of the coming of Christ.

Ojuntana:
Go and read your Bible properly. God is not everywhere. God sees everything and knows everything but his presence is not everywhere. God does not inhabit a place where there is sin or unholiness.

cutecommend:
Almost every Sunday, people go to church to worship God. Many go prepared and properly dressed. In some of these churches, there are exciting and nice activities that keep members excited, but even with the excitements, God is not really there.

As you keep attending church, remember that you are responsible for your soul, and you need to make the right decision on the kind of church you are going to so that you may not damn your soul.

Signs You are Attending a Dead or Dying Church.

(1) If true Holiness Message and solid doctrine is irritating, boring and unexciting to its members. But dancing, jumping, comedy, shouting wooo etc are more preferred to sound doctrine.

(2) If seductive and indecent dressing is highly tolerated, and some of the guys in church department plait hair.

(3) If members are ashamed to hold bible (physical bible) on the road while going to church.

(4) If comedians are coming to the pulpit to jest and tell lies to make people laugh.

(5) If such church makes you live comfortably in sin, while using grace message to make you feel alright even in sin.

(6) If prayers for repentance, consecration, fruits of the spirit, sanctification, purification, character development is put aside, while prayers for vision, prosperity, impact, taking territories, getting visa, going to the next levels, goals, purpose etc is emphasized more.

(7) If such church makes you have no thought or little awareness of the coming of Christ.

joshkke:
So, while the OP's and your main points are valid in essence, the truth is that Psalm 139 as pointed out does prove that GOD is everywhere ( I mean which place can be worse than hell?).
But the point you are not making quite clear is that GOD does not approve of some gatherings, though HE is present. HE will not condone, support, or manifest HIS Grace in these places, though HE is present. If GOD departs from a place or person, it would cease to exist because HE holds all things together and in HIM all things consist. But the most important thing is that the OP's and your message is valid and anyone who has ears to hear should hear.

Ojuntana:
Go and read your Bible properly. God is not everywhere. God sees everything and knows everything but his presence is not everywhere. God does not inhabit a place where there is sin or unholiness.

Ojuntana:
What does that have to do with anything

immortalcrown:
Have you taken your advice to read the Bible properly? What does Psalm 139 say? What about Jeremiah 23:23-24? So, God will abandon the innocent children in a Church by leaving the Church because of the sinners in the Church?

cutecommend:
Almost every Sunday, people go to church to worship God. Many go prepared and properly dressed. In some of these churches, there are exciting and nice activities that keep members excited, but even with the excitements, God is not really there.

As you keep attending church, remember that you are responsible for your soul, and you need to make the right decision on the kind of church you are going to so that you may not damn your soul.

Signs You are Attending a Dead or Dying Church.

(1) If true Holiness Message and solid doctrine is irritating, boring and unexciting to its members. But dancing, jumping, comedy, shouting wooo etc are more preferred to sound doctrine.

(2) If seductive and indecent dressing is highly tolerated, and some of the guys in church department plait hair.

(3) If members are ashamed to hold bible (physical bible) on the road while going to church.

(4) If comedians are coming to the pulpit to jest and tell lies to make people laugh.

(5) If such church makes you live comfortably in sin, while using grace message to make you feel alright even in sin.

(6) If prayers for repentance, consecration, fruits of the spirit, sanctification, purification, character development is put aside, while prayers for vision, prosperity, impact, taking territories, getting visa, going to the next levels, goals, purpose etc is emphasized more.

(7) If such church makes you have no thought or little awareness of the coming of Christ.

AntiChristian:
Church get life? And which church Jesus attend every Sunday/Saturday of his life?

Which choir band play for am?

Which pastor preach for am?

cutecommend:
Almost every Sunday, people go to church to worship God. Many go prepared and properly dressed. In some of these churches, there are exciting and nice activities that keep members excited, but even with the excitements, God is not really there.

As you keep attending church, remember that you are responsible for your soul, and you need to make the right decision on the kind of church you are going to so that you may not damn your soul.

Signs You are Attending a Dead or Dying Church.

(1) If true Holiness Message and solid doctrine is irritating, boring and unexciting to its members. But dancing, jumping, comedy, shouting wooo etc are more preferred to sound doctrine.

(2) If seductive and indecent dressing is highly tolerated, and some of the guys in church department plait hair.

(3) If members are ashamed to hold bible (physical bible) on the road while going to church.

(4) If comedians are coming to the pulpit to jest and tell lies to make people laugh.

(5) If such church makes you live comfortably in sin, while using grace message to make you feel alright even in sin.

(6) If prayers for repentance, consecration, fruits of the spirit, sanctification, purification, character development is put aside, while prayers for vision, prosperity, impact, taking territories, getting visa, going to the next levels, goals, purpose etc is emphasized more.

(7) If such church makes you have no thought or little awareness of the coming of Christ.

immortalcrown:
OP, read Psalm 139. Also, check Jeremiah 23:23-24. God's presence is one thing, people recognising and utilising the presence is another thing. Refusal to eat when food is available does not mean famine. Choosing to be naked when the wardrobe is stocked with clothes does not mean lack of clothes.

1.
God is everywhere, even in a bar, even where people are committing sins. Some of you think that God discriminates. That is why some of you think that God is not in your homes, and you consequently choose to sleep in the Church every night claiming that that is where you can find God. Even in your classroom, God is there. Even in your shop or office, God is not absent. Even in shrines, God is present.

2.
What is the meaning of "omnipresent"?. Stop claiming that God is not in some Churches. What you should say is that the majority in a Church may ignorantly or deliberately use certain behaviours to reject the benefits of God's presence.

3.
Church members finding holiness message boring does not mean the absence of God. In fact, the message itself is a noticeable evidence of God's presence in the Church.

4.
All your points here are invalid. Even if the leader of a Church is a champion of sin, God is still in that Church, at least for the sake of innocent Children in the same Church. [sub][/sub]

Ojuntana:
At least a church is better than the terrorist enclaves you call mosques where you plan murders after hitting your head on the floor

Which mosque did Muhammad attend every Friday

AntiChristian:
Church get life? And which church Jesus attend every Sunday/Saturday of his life?

Which choir band play for am?

Which pastor preach for am?

AntiChristian:
Church get life? And which church Jesus attend every Sunday/Saturday of his life?

Which choir band play for am?

Which pastor preach for am?

cutecommend:
Almost every Sunday, people go to church to worship God. Many go prepared and properly dressed. In some of these churches, there are exciting and nice activities that keep members excited, but even with the excitements, God is not really there.

As you keep attending church, remember that you are responsible for your soul, and you need to make the right decision on the kind of church you are going to so that you may not damn your soul.

Signs You are Attending a Dead or Dying Church.

(1) If true Holiness Message and solid doctrine is irritating, boring and unexciting to its members. But dancing, jumping, comedy, shouting wooo etc are more preferred to sound doctrine.

(2) If seductive and indecent dressing is highly tolerated, and some of the guys in church department plait hair.

(3) If members are ashamed to hold bible (physical bible) on the road while going to church.

(4) If comedians are coming to the pulpit to jest and tell lies to make people laugh.

(5) If such church makes you live comfortably in sin, while using grace message to make you feel alright even in sin.

(6) If prayers for repentance, consecration, fruits of the spirit, sanctification, purification, character development is put aside, while prayers for vision, prosperity, impact, taking territories, getting visa, going to the next levels, goals, purpose etc is emphasized more.

(7) If such church makes you have no thought or little awareness of the coming of Christ.

Ojuntana:
Go and read your Bible properly. God is not everywhere. God sees everything and knows everything but his presence is not everywhere. God does not inhabit a place where there is sin or unholiness.

Ojuntana:
Neither Psalm 139 nor Jeremiah 23 says God is everywhere. God will abandon innocent children in a church if the church is not his. That is why you are asked to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. God is not a babysitter. Let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he falls.
If you walk with goats, you will chop grass. God will not because you are righteous condone your walking with evil. Ask Lot. He lost everything he owned to his decision to live in Sodom. Even his wife was not spared!!

adams123:
Muhammad attended Mosques in Mecca and Madina. MUHAMMAD also told us that GOD revealed to him that Jesus is coming back to the world at the edge of end of the world, his coming is the major sign of the end of this world. MUHAMMAD also told us that he's the last messenger of GOD sent to humanity before the end of the world so IF any one decided to disobey his message from GOD, the fellow is on his own and hell fire will be an abode of such individual.



May all our christian brothers and sisters and other unbelievers of the message of ISLAM repent and accept Islam before their death

StillDtruth:
True!

But i feel, ehen Exodus and Pentecost Day shows us the difference i am pointing out which is Yes, God is present and His Rule is seen and felt however, on the day He showed Himself to Isreal on the Mountain and the day of the dedication of His Tabernacle and Pentecost Day shows us the difference between where He is and the presence of His Rule.

Which is why it written "Where The Spirit of The Lord is, there is..." which clearly shows that there is a difference Where God is and where He is not, even though He Rules and His Rule and presence is felt.