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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by A40(m): 3:47pm On Sep 11, 2024
LordAdam16:
Trump cannot do that.
Do you really think no one told him to avoid her baits? Even during the breaks.
He decided not to listen to them.

The thing is that we have way slicker candidates on the conservative bench.
But the core of the voting block do not trust them like they do Trump.
They know Trump will build the wall. They know he will carry out deportations. They know he will drill baby drill and be pro-fossil fuels. They know he will avoid wars.

So it's like a package deal. He has this great record, but all you need to trip him up is say he draws small crowds. His ego will not let him be effective. But if you bring in a smooth talker like Vivek, Rubio, or even Pence; the base will not trust that they'll follow through.
A second debate would be better for him. He tends to listen only after his stubbornness blows up in his face. So he'll finally listen to his debate advisors, like he only listened to them in 2020 after the first was a dumpster fire. But that's 4 wasted weeks when we could have started running away with this election.

The positives to draw is that Kamala ducked and weaved and he laid into her the handful of times he comported himself.
I'm confident that by next week, the debate is old news and we're back to "Kamala, why did you you push for tax-funded gender change treatments for illegal migrants in 2019".

In all, he did okay. The only reason why the race is close while he has the advantage on economy, immigration, and foreign policy is that he has flaws and last night one flaw floated to the top. Trump has an ego is no surprise to 90% of Americans. But it'll be a short drag because Americans will go out to the grocery stores and still see the high prices. Migrants will commit more crimes, stream across the border, and be given handouts while Americans rack up credit card debt and can't afford housing. The realities do not change because you got Trump to bloviate about how much his father left him.

American' are facing real crises and Harris and her tag team masquerading as moderators fixated on the candidate Trump. And failed to make the case about fixing the current mess tied to her administration. Her debate performance will have about as much effect as her DNC speech. Both were celebrated, but the convention bounce did not happen.

-Lord
I agree with pretty much all you said here. I just think Trump can be a bit more refined. Like Reagan was. He's older. I've seen younger videos of Trump and the charisma and chill with which he handled interviews and questions he should re-watch that and incorporate it to subsequent debates. The rule is to never let them see you sweat

I watched him on Oprah a while back and this was recorded in the late 80s bear in mind. Pretty much all he said was going on or would go on is what we are seeing play out right now. His consistency is pretty remarkable

You saw the link I posted here of those undecided voters being interviewed on CNN. At the end of the day it's the economy stupid like Bill Clinton once said, They think elitists like Taylor Swift will factor. As if her reality and yours na the same grin

I've seen an inordinate amount of even black women express with their full chest that they are voting Trump. When you see all your tax dollars going to illegal able bodied immigrants from Honduras and Venezuela while you are living from check to check your brain go reset
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:52pm On Sep 11, 2024
bemeruca:
Another gobbledegook from you. NATO became stronger under Trump.
If he is destabilizing NATO and a pal with Putin, isn't that the right time to invade? Use some brain cells

By your figures 3.6 billion a year. War started in 2022 the US has spent more than 200 billion.

It's simple maths. By this rate, they are outspending Afghanistan and it was the US's war not another nation.
300 million a day is not 3.6 billion dollars a year. Go back to school.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:54pm On Sep 11, 2024
This is a good summary of 21 Kamala lies , the moderators did not fact check her at all. They would ask her a question, she would answer within her. two minutes criticizing Trump who would then have a minute to respond, with in some cases the moderators interjecting. They fact checked Trump five times to Kamala zero times.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/21-kamala-harris-false-claims-hoaxes-that-debate-moderators-did-not-fact-check/
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 4:14pm On Sep 11, 2024
A40:
She was mostly waffling. I don't see anything she said that was profound. Seems the bar was so low for Kamala the fact that she sounded coherent was viewed as a W.

Trump held his own on a debate that was basically 3v1 notice that not once did anyone push back or fact check Kamala. But it's ABC so I'm not surprised.



Abi is this not the same Kamala for their primaries? That got absolutely destroyed by Tulsi Gabbard? She's still an airhead that was shielded don't get it twisted. If this is the best she could drop after months of coaching she has a long way to go
3 Vs 1 is losers nonsense

He was talking so much nonsense about cats, dogs and abortion after birth. Media have a duty to set the record straight. Setting record straight on a mad man for the benefit of the public is not taking sides

He was even handed an alley hoop with the first question on economy, kicking off on his strong point. If they started off on abortion, I will know it was 3 Vs 1

Trump had all the ammunition that matters - Economy, Immigration and Afghanistan withdrawal and still lost the debate, Kamala didn't have much to work with except abortion and still won. If you give any reasonable politician Trumps strong points, it would have been a whitewash
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 4:18pm On Sep 11, 2024
Now, about 4.5 million individuals are behind on their mortgage payments, and over 5 million individuals are behind on their rent payments 🙆🏾
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 4:19pm On Sep 11, 2024
basilico:
This is a good summary of 21 Kamala lies , the moderators did not fact check her at all. They would ask her a question, she would answer within her. two minutes criticizing Trump who would then have a minute to respond, with in some cases the moderators interjecting. They fact checked Trump five times to Kamala zero times.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/10/21-kamala-harris-false-claims-hoaxes-that-debate-moderators-did-not-fact-check/
A so called fact check that is just full of lies.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:24pm On Sep 11, 2024
IjeBos:
300 million a day is not 3.6 billion dollars a year. Go back to school.
Oga they are spending more in Ukraine than Afghanistan. Logistics, equipment, bombs, planes, factor all these, If they give all this equipments they had in Afghanistan to Ukraine, Ukraine would be at Moscow today.

They are spending billions for less in Ukraine.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:24pm On Sep 11, 2024
PDPGuy:
Now, about 4.5 million individuals are behind on their mortgage payments, and over 5 million individuals are behind on their rent payments 🙆🏾
How will kamala fix this she did not answer.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:35pm On Sep 11, 2024
Kamel la wants a second debate. It is safe to assume she is behind in their internal polls.

I'd say trump sets the stage at fox news or they should use a town hall setting and call megyn Kelly and someone from CNN to do the 2nd debate
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:43pm On Sep 11, 2024
Ibime:
3 Vs 1 is losers nonsense

He was talking so much nonsense about cats, dogs and abortion after birth. Media have a duty to set the record straight. Setting record straight on a mad man for the benefit of the public is not taking sides

He was even handed an alley hoop with the first question on economy, kicking off on his strong point. If they started off on abortion, I will know it was 3 Vs 1

Trump had all the ammunition that matters - Economy, Immigration and Afghanistan withdrawal and still lost the debate, Kamala didn't have much to work with except abortion and still won. If you give any reasonable politician Trumps strong points, it would have been a whitewash
😂😂

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:57pm On Sep 11, 2024
bemeruca:
😂😂
I understand why you'd be upset that the debate moderators called out people's egregious lies.
You and Trump are kindred spirits(without the 400 million inherited wealth), both of you lie like you're breathing.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:01pm On Sep 11, 2024
bemeruca:
Oga they are spending more in Ukraine than Afghanistan. Logistics, equipment, bombs, planes, factor all these, If they give all this equipments they had in Afghanistan to Ukraine, Ukraine would be at Moscow today.

They are spending billions for less in Ukraine.
Go rest. Everytime you run your mouth here it ends up in you lying trying not to look stupid. Which makes you look even stupider.
Go work on your Canadian asylum application, or wherever you're trying to seek asylum now.
Us matters don't concern you for you do be devoting your life and soul to it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 5:05pm On Sep 11, 2024
bemeruca:
😂😂
When the excuses start coming out (moderators, earrings etc) and when even Elon Musk accepts Kamala took the debate, just know the debate was lost. Trump had no right losing that debate when all the key stats are on his side.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:07pm On Sep 11, 2024
PDPGuy:
Now, about 4.5 million individuals are behind on their mortgage payments, and over 5 million individuals are behind on their rent payments 🙆🏾
In the Real estate market, its a bloodbath out there but keep calm

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:08pm On Sep 11, 2024
IjeBos:
Go rest. Everytime you run your mouth here it ends up in you lying trying not to look stupid. Which makes you look even stupider.
Go work on your Canadian asylum application, or wherever you're trying to seek asylum now.
Us matters don't concern you for you do be devoting your life and soul to it.
Lmao, so you could not prove what I am saying wrong?
The US is spending close to 300 million per day in Ukraine for less than a quarter of the equipments they were getting in Afghanistan. Prove me wrong
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 5:12pm On Sep 11, 2024
PDPGuy:
Now, about 4.5 million individuals are behind on their mortgage payments, and over 5 million individuals are behind on their rent payments 🙆🏾
Isolated stats don't really tell us anything.
Here are delinquency rates by year. They were generally higher under Pres. Trump.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 5:14pm On Sep 11, 2024
raumdeuter:
In the Real estate market, its a bloodbath out there but keep calm
You're a very easy mark. Propaganda seems to work very well on you.
You swallow it whole without a nary of thought.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 5:15pm On Sep 11, 2024
bemeruca:
Lmao, so you could not prove what I am saying wrong?
The US is spending close to 300 million per day in Ukraine for less than a quarter of the equipments they were getting in Afghanistan. Prove me wrong
Go rest. Everytime you run your mouth here it ends up in you lying trying not to look stupid. Which makes you look even stupider. Why do you think this time will be any different?.
Go work on your Canadian asylum application, or wherever you're trying to seek asylum now.
Us matters don't concern you for you do be devoting your life and soul to it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:17pm On Sep 11, 2024
Top 5 lies that the ABC News moderators refused to fact-check or falsely fact-checked during the debate:

1. Mandatory Firearm Buybacks:

Kamala Harris told Trump to "stop lying" about her wanting to confiscate firearms. Harris has previously stated multiple times that she wants to launch a mandatory buyback program.

The ABC moderators said nothing.

2. "Fine People" Hoax:

Kamala Harris claimed Trump called neo-N*zi's "very fine people." This hoax was debunked by Snopes but the ABC moderators let it slide.

The ABC moderators said nothing.

3. Post-Birth Abortion:

Trump claimed babies were 'k*lled' outside the womb in failed abortions. Under Tim Walz, babies born alive in botched abortions are allowed to be left to d*e.

Eight babies who survived abortions in Minnesota were abandoned and sadly perished under Walz.

The ABC moderators simply said Trump was lying and moved on without adding context.

4. Defund the Police:

Kamala Harris laughed when Trump said she wanted to defund the police. During a previous interview, Harris said having more cops on the street is "wrong."

She also supported taking police officers out of schools.

The ABC moderators said nothing.

5. Bl**dbath Hoax:

Kamala Harris claimed Trump said there would be a bl**dbath if he is not elected, insinuating that his supporters would start k*lling people.

This is completely false. The comment was made during a rally where Trump said there would be a "bl**dbath" for the American auto industry if he is not elected.

The ABC moderators said nothing.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 5:19pm On Sep 11, 2024
raumdeuter:
Top 5 lies that the ABC News moderators refused to fact-check or falsely fact-checked during the debate:

1. Mandatory Firearm Buybacks:

Kamala Harris told Trump to "stop lying" about her wanting to confiscate firearms. Harris has previously stated multiple times that she wants to launch a mandatory buyback program.

The ABC moderators said nothing.

2. "Fine People" Hoax:

Kamala Harris claimed Trump called neo-N*zi's "very fine people." This hoax was debunked by Snopes but the ABC moderators let it slide.

The ABC moderators said nothing.

3. Post-Birth Abortion:

Trump claimed babies were 'k*lled' outside the womb in failed abortions. Under Tim Walz, babies born alive in botched abortions are allowed to be left to d*e.

Eight babies who survived abortions in Minnesota were abandoned and sadly perished under Walz.

The ABC moderators simply said Trump was lying and moved on without adding context.

4. Defund the Police:

Kamala Harris laughed when Trump said she wanted to defund the police. During a previous interview, Harris said having more cops on the street is "wrong."

She also supported taking police officers out of schools.

The ABC moderators said nothing.

5. Bl**dbath Hoax:

Kamala Harris claimed Trump said there would be a bl**dbath if he is not elected, insinuating that his supporters would start k*lling people.

This is completely false. The comment was made during a rally where Trump said there would be a "bl**dbath" for the American auto industry if he is not elected.

The ABC moderators said nothing.

Did you read any of this or did you just copy and paste it?
What is the point of copying and pasting something without reading it and asking yourself if it makes sense or sounds silly?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:21pm On Sep 11, 2024
ijebosb:
You're a very easy mark. Propaganda seems to work very well on you.
You swallow it whole without a nary of thought.
Says someone who take everything the Democratic party says hook line and sinker
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:22pm On Sep 11, 2024
ijebosb:
Did you read any of this or did you just copy and paste it?
Do you have the ability to read and understand
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:23pm On Sep 11, 2024
ijebosb:
Go rest. Everytime you run your mouth here it ends up in you lying trying not to look stupid. Which makes you look even stupider. Why do you think this time will be any different?.
Go work on your Canadian asylum application, or wherever you're trying to seek asylum now.
Us matters don't concern you for you do be devoting your life and soul to it.
Your brain is now stuck in a loop 😂 per usual
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 5:23pm On Sep 11, 2024
raumdeuter:
Says someone who take everything the Democratic party says hook line and sinker
Is there 1 thing you have EVER proven me wrong on?
I only post things I believe to be true.
You continuously post whatever nonsense comes across your TikTok feed without even thinking about it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:24pm On Sep 11, 2024
ijebosb:
Is there 1 thing you have EVER proven me wrong on?
I only post things I believe to be true.
You continuously post whatever nonsense comes across your TikTok feed without even thinking about it.
Okay you are WRITE.

I TAUGHT it was someone who can read and RIGHT
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 5:25pm On Sep 11, 2024
raumdeuter:
Do you have the ability to read and understand
I did read it and I did understand it. I was asking if you did.
Because it sounds like a pretty stupid list of pretty debatable issues.
You clearly seem not understand what a fact check is.
Stop outsourcing your thought to random propagandists.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:28pm On Sep 11, 2024
ijebosb:
I did read it and I did understand it. I was asking if you did.
Because it sounds like a pretty stupid list of pretty debatable issues.
You clearly seem not understand what a fact check is.
Stop outsourcing your thought to random propagandists.
Harvard guys.
How is it debatable? Those are debunked lies the ABC hosts refused to fact check. How are you even disagreeing with this?

The bold is what happens when you watch the debate on leftist tweets instead of the actual debate.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 5:28pm On Sep 11, 2024
raumdeuter:
Okay you are WRITE.

I TAUGHT it was someone who can read and RIGHT
Fam, I have an Ivy league degree.
What do you have?

Keep this on topics where you have a chance.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:29pm On Sep 11, 2024
ijebosb:
Fam, I have an Ivy league degree.
What do you have?

Keep this on topics where you have a chance.
You have been confirmed to be a dunce multiple times

Ivy League degree indeed. I will expect anyone with such to write better than a 3rd grader
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:30pm On Sep 11, 2024
ijebosb:
Fam, I have an Ivy league degree.
What do you have?

Keep this on topics where you have a chance.
Per usual 😂 yet almost everyone has called you stupid and dumb 🤣🤣
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:30pm On Sep 11, 2024
ijebosb:
I did read it and I did understand it. I was asking if you did.
Because it sounds like a pretty stupid list of pretty debatable issues.
You clearly seem not understand what a fact check is.
Stop outsourcing your thought to random propagandists.
What are the list of debatable issues you see on there, with video link to prove it?

It simply shows you are a puppet of the democratic party with no ability for independent TAUGHT
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:31pm On Sep 11, 2024
bemeruca:
Per usual 😂 yet almost everyone has called you stupid and dumb 🤣🤣
Yeah Dumbery College his alma mata
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