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Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m):
AntiChristian:
No one was a Christian in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John! Christianity was christend by unknown persons and defined later after Jesus.

All these your theories are falsehood!

Petalss
Mentioning my name while quoting MAX. Explain to me what it means.
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MightySparrow: 8:43am On Sep 14, 2024
AntiChristian:
You're an ass!



It only seems you're catching cruise with your ignorance! It cool to remain ignorant. You can answer the question yourself!

Why did Yahweh give Dangote wealth than all your generations put together?

Answer the above and you have your answer!
Why Did Allah send Mohammad to annihilate Jews and Christians without mercy still using their history and scriptures?
Is it because your generation is richer than Dangote's?
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MightySparrow: 8:49am On Sep 14, 2024
Petalss:
Mentioning my name quoting MAX. Explain to me what it means.
Antichristian is an ignorant jihadist.

Does it matter who gives names to what? Largos, portharcourt, Nigerian, even America were named by people outside their tribes. Even Yoruba!

Just leave him with his ranting.
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:57am On Sep 14, 2024
AntiChristian:
No one was a Christian in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John! Christianity was christend by unknown persons and defined later after Jesus. All these your theories are falsehood!
Petalss
I can say same about your Allah, Muhammad, Quran and Islam.
All is falsehood if you're just bowing towards a black stone in a far away country but at every opportunity to fight and kill one another Allah, Muhammad, Qur'an and Islam is thrown into the garbage leaving adherents to fight and kill one another! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 8:58am On Sep 14, 2024
MightySparrow:
Antichristian is an ignorant jihadist.

Does it matter who gives names to what? Largos, portharcourt, Nigerian, even America were named by people outside their tribes. Even Yoruba!

Just leave him with his ranting.
Please do not misquote me. You misunderstood the question I asked him. I hope he understands what I was asking about.
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:00am On Sep 14, 2024
AntiChristian:
It's none of my business about your organisation and its many heresies! You brought out one thread that's for you but left the tens of thread that were against you some of which you ran away from! Petalss
Ask them to present a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:01am On Sep 14, 2024
Petalss:
Mentioning my name quoting MAX. Explain to me what it means.
He wants to make some sense against what i am saying! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 9:09am On Sep 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
He wants to make some sense against what i am saying! smiley
Okay
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:16am On Sep 14, 2024
Petalss:
Okay
Alright!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 9:21am On Sep 14, 2024
MightySparrow:
Why Did Allah send Mohammad to annihilate Jews and Christians without mercy still using their history and scriptures?
Is it because your generation is richer than Dangote's?
Please provide evidence where Allah explicitly commands the annihilation or destruction of a specific group or people.
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Kingsempires(m): 9:52am On Sep 14, 2024
AntiChristian:
You always mention Muslims fighting themselves. How many Muslims are fighting themselves? What's the ratio? Even in your Bible did Jews not rebel against themselves and God? Does that make them still not God's chosen at that time? You need to get your grip on your Jehovah witness denomination and stop using your ignorant islamic past as a proof for you as it is against you! Islam is perfect but Muslims are not!

And Christians too fought so much from the revolution to the crusade! Except that you regard Jehovah witnesses as the only Christian denomination authorised by Jesus in 1919 or so! So for 1919 years God left the world on autopilot!

Muslims that are united are more than those that fights themselves!



Islam is not weak! Some Muslims are actually weak but never the religion! This is the mentality of Jehovah witness you're promoting! You're being controlled by the Governing body from New York!

You're the weak one that's been banned from many countries due to your heresies!

And mind you not all those who call themselves Muslims are actually Muslims!

Petalss
shocked shocked
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Kingsempires(m): 9:53am On Sep 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
That's why i will never ever agree with you that this your Allah is the same as JEHOVAH because Jehovah will not condone disrespect for His sovereignty by watching His worshipers picking up weapons against one another while He remains their SUPREME RULER.

Your Allah has infused in your heart hatred for such trivial case having to do with meals that could be eaten by your imam when he is about to die of hunger and thirst but overlooked cases that's leading his worshipers into exterminating one another.

The true God will never ever approve worship from anyone who kills his or her fellow believer no matter what the case may be unless if God himself declares judgment for execution upon an offender but while two persons are claiming wordhipers of Jehovah both of them must be willing to settle whatever case could lead them into killing one another.

The law @ Exodus 20:13 is strictly to avoid killings among adherents of His laws! smiley
No vese oo make I ask you a question;

Is self-defense a sin?
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:55am On Sep 14, 2024
Kingsempires:
shocked shocked
After a thorough meditation AntiChristian has agreed with me that it's not about what people claims to be but what the prophet they claims to follow teaches.
Yet he wants to argue with me about who are real Christians! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 9:59am On Sep 14, 2024
Petalss:
Mentioning my name while quoting MAX. Explain to me what it means.
Just making you follow the context of your discussion from when he started mentioning he was a Muslim before....

He always mention that and i don't know why.
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Kingsempires(m): 10:00am On Sep 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
After a thorough meditation AntiChristian has agreed with me that it's not about what people claims to be but what the prophet they claims to follow teaches.
Yet he wants to argue with me about who are real Christians! smiley
abeg leave Antichristian alone. You know that Antichristian like arguing too much.
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:06am On Sep 14, 2024
Kingsempires:
No vese oo make I ask you a question;
Is self-defense a sin?
From God's viewpoint self defense starts from adhering to the wise counsel from Jesus Christ God's only begotten Son. Matthew 7:24-27
So if you failed to act in accord with Jesus' wise counsel {Matthew 5:39-42} but allowed discussions or matters to lead you into serious issues to the point of violence {Proverbs 17:14} then you are guilty of whatever happens afterwards! Proverbs 22:3

So learn what SELF-DEFENSE means from Jesus' standpoint otherwise Jesus may disown you for allowing yourself to be a tool in Satan's hand!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 10:09am On Sep 14, 2024
MightySparrow:
Why Did Allah send Mohammad to annihilate Jews and Christians without mercy still using their history and scriptures?
Is it because your generation is richer than Dangote's?
Where did Muhammad say Allah sent him to annihilate Jews and Christians?

There were Jews in Makkah and Madinah where the Prophet lived. Did he annihilate all of them?

Show me verses like these:

If anyone sacrifices to any god other than the LORD alone, he must be set apart for destruction. Exodus 22:20

If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you embrace, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (which neither you nor your fathers have known, the gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, whether from one end of the earth or the other), you must not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity, and do not spare him or shield him.
Instead, you must surely kill him. Your hand must be the first against him to put him to death, and then the hands of all the people. Deuteronomy 13:6-9


Olodo osi!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 10:11am On Sep 14, 2024
AntiChristian:
Just making you follow the context of your discussion from when he started mentioning he was a Muslim before....

He always mention that and i don't know why.
Now I get you.

Him being an Ex Muslim doesn't automatically prove that Islam is false.

I am sure he will label someone who leaves the Jehovah's Witness faith as being misled or straying from what is considered the "true" Christian path.

The decision to leave a religion doesn't inherently validate or invalidate the truth of its doctrines, it merely reflects a change in personal belief.
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 10:12am On Sep 14, 2024
MightySparrow:
Antichristian is an ignorant jihadist.

Does it matter who gives names to what? Largos, portharcourt, Nigerian, even America were named by people outside their tribes. Even Yoruba!

Just leave him with his ranting.
You call yourselves Christians when Christ doesn't even know that name!
Names do matter! Islam and Muslims were given by Allah! And our Prophet was the first of Muslims of his time!
The ignorant one is clear in this thread!

Your IQ is seemingly low to discuss issues on a public fora like this
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:16am On Sep 14, 2024
Petalss:
The decision to leave a religion doesn't inherently validate or invalidate the truth of its doctrines, it merely reflects a change in personal belief.
Our ancestors left idols to welcome books from foreigners doesn't inherently validate or invalidate the truth of the doctrines of their newly found faith it merely reflects a change in their personal beliefs! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Emusan(m): 10:17am On Sep 14, 2024
AntiChristian:
The Gasses can't act on their own and be called Sun! The heat can't be alone and be called Sun! But altogether and with the right conditions of temperature and pressure they can make up the Sun! Is this how you describe trinity? Jesus is only God when he is together with the father and Spirit. Even the father is incomplete on his own!
This is the point I'm making which you failed to UNDERSTAND.

No PERFECT example can be put forth by MAN to explain Trinity the moment there's PERFECT EXAMPLE means those things set as example are ACTUALLY GOD TOO.

The idea is to let you know how MULTIPLE THINGS CAN CO-EXIST which you can't deny.

None of the parts of the sun can stand on its own to be called Sun!
Bit you get the point Trinitarians are putting forth.

If those things A PERSON they can stand on THEIR OWN.

The basics is what i have explained above. How does trinity fit into such illustration?
The basics is the idea which you have pointed out.

Trinity fits into it because THEY BOTH coexist and individual can be called the same NAME.

You're not wrong if you feel the heat and say THE SUN IS HOT today or you set your eyes on the bright light and say the SUN is TOO bright today.

You decided to ratio three persons instead of taking each of them as a person! By saying it is 1:1:1, means only one can act at a time.
This is a limitation!

The absolute unity of God does not present any limitations!
No! Ratio means EQUAL PART NOT limitation.

If that should be PERSONS it means COEXIST, EQUAL AND self-conscious.

The idea is how to picture Trinity not TRINITY in its TRUE FORM.

This is just simple thing to grab!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 10:18am On Sep 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
I can say same about your Allah, Muhammad, Quran and Islam.
All is falsehood if you're just bowing towards a black stone in a far away country but at every opportunity to fight and kill one another Allah, Muhammad, Qur'an and Islam is thrown into the garbage leaving adherents to fight and kill one another! smiley
You can't say Jack bro! The only thing you can say are those ignorant things ole n tele alfa you learn back then! You were not even close to what a Muslim should be! And no majority of the Muslims are not killing! And we are against unjust killing! Recently some terrorists where said to request for whiskey and some other items. Muslims don't do Whiskey but not Christians! Jesus turned water to wine! And Jehovah witnesses sabi drink wine wella!

In my community here no Muslim is killing one another! In my LG same! In my state same! So na you sabi wetin you dey talk!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Kingsempires(m): 10:18am On Sep 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
From God's viewpoint self defense starts from adhering to the wise counsel from Jesus Christ God's only begotten Son. Matthew 7:24-27
So if you failed to act in accord with Jesus' wise counsel {Matthew 5:39-42} but allowed discussions or matters to lead you into serious issues to the point of violence {Proverbs 17:14} then you are guilty of whatever happens afterwards! Proverbs 22:3

So learn what SELF-DEFENSE means from Jesus' standpoint otherwise Jesus may disown you for allowing yourself to be a tool in Satan's hand!
ok let me for example if you and your wife and your children is in the house and some thieves came into your house and you rush and hide them and your wife and an you also hidden too sad so the thieves now found them were they you hide them and Rob everything in your house and want to kill your family and you have the opportunity to kill them as self defense,are you go to left all of them to die all in the name that you want to imitate Jesus way or will you kill them just to protect your family ?
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 10:18am On Sep 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Ask them to present a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! smiley
You that you were banned in some countries?
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Kingsempires(m): 10:20am On Sep 14, 2024
AntiChristian:
You that you were banned in some countries?
is Muslim in every country?
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:22am On Sep 14, 2024
AntiChristian:
We are against unjust killing!
Please explain what your Allah consider unjust killing.

Is it permissible from the standpoint of your Allah that Muslims kill Muslims due to political or ethnic conflicts?

If yes is your answer please is your Allah the Creator of all the nations?
Does your Allah view himself as the SUPREME RULER over all Muslims?

Please i need answers to these questions! smiley
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 10:22am On Sep 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
After a thorough meditation AntiChristian has agreed with me that it's not about what people claims to be but what the prophet they claims to follow teaches.
Yet he wants to argue with me about who are real Christians! smiley
Is it about the Prophet or what is sent to your from NEW YORK JW.ORG?

You'll soon receive updates soon!

Your first briain app update started in 1919.

How many brain app updates have happened since then?
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 10:25am On Sep 14, 2024
Kingsempires:
is Muslim in every country?
No!

But every major countries have Muslims!

Even China has despite the persecutions!
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Explore2xmore: 10:26am On Sep 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Our ancestors left idols to welcome books from foreigners doesn't inherently validate or invalidate the truth of the doctrines of their newly found faith it merely reflects a change in their personal beliefs! smiley
It's wrong to think all African ancestors were idolaters.

There were indeed ancient Africans who worshipped God amidst idolators. These individuals or groups often faced challenges due to cultural pressures but managed to maintain their faith through various means such as oral traditions, rituals focused on their understanding of God, and community support.
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by AntiChristian(op): 10:26am On Sep 14, 2024
Kingsempires:
abeg leave Antichristian alone. You know that Antichristian like arguing too much.
grin lipsrsealed
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:28am On Sep 14, 2024
Kingsempires:
ok let me for example if you and your wife and your children is in the house and some thieves came into your house and you rush and hide them and your wife and an you also hidden too sad so the thieves now found them were they you hide them and Rob everything in your house and want to kill your family and you have the opportunity to kill them as self defense,are you go to left all of them to die all in the name that you want to imitate Jesus way or will you kill them just to protect your family?
Do you store material possessions to invite the thieves?

Remember what Jesus said:

“Stop storing up for yourselves treasures on the earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal." Matthew 6:19

If you do who is inviting them? undecided
Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:31am On Sep 14, 2024
AntiChristian:
Is it about the Prophet or what is sent to your from NEW YORK JW.ORG?
You'll soon receive updates soon!
Your first briain app update started in 1919.
How many brain app updates have happened since then?
Updates is the best thing that could happen to any group of worshipers since you're not seeing the God you claim to worship physically you only rely on what was written in a book which neither you nor those teaching you knew those who wrote it.

So UPDATES on the application of what is written will help you a lot! smiley
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