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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 9:40am On Sep 20, 2024
Dumfrank:
The military has protocols in place to disarm a fellow soldier who is experiencing a mental health crisis or is acting in a threatening manner. The goal is to de-escalate the situation and ensure the safety of all individuals involved. Here are some steps that may be taken:

1. *Verbal de-escalation techniques*: Trained personnel will try to calm the individual down through communication, active listening, and empathy.
2. *Non-confrontational approach*: Approaching the individual in a non-threatening manner, using open and calm body language.
3. *Redirection*: Redirecting the individual's attention away from the weapon or the source of the conflict.
4. *Physical restraint*: If necessary, using minimal physical force to restrain the individual, while ensuring their safety and the safety of others.
5. *Weapon removal*: Carefully removing the weapon from the individual's possession.
6. *Support and resources*: Providing the individual with support and resources, such as mental health services or counseling.

It's important to note that these protocols may vary depending on the specific situation and the military branch. The primary goal is to prioritize safety and well-being while de-escalating the situation.... Copied.
Did you copy this from manual of US marine corps?
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Hassanmaye(m): 9:41am On Sep 20, 2024
AuschwitzPrefec:
Watched the video .

Resisting an arrest order by an officer

Refusing to be disarmed by his fellow soldiers .


Firing his weapon sporadically


He's even lucky that one of his own didn't open fire on him.

If this was the US military he would have since been gunned down.

The guy court martial counts go plenty.

1. Resisting a lawful order by a Senior officer to be disarmed.

2. Resisting arrest.

3. Attempted murder . As long as he pulled that trigger even if not targeting anyone he will be charged for attempted murder.

4. Unlawful possession of military firearm. As he refused to be disarmed and kept hold of his weapon despite an order to hand it over, he has committed a grave crime of possessing military weapon without authorization.

5. Insurbordination

6. Mutiny charges will be slammed on him from all the above charges . This carries a death sentence.

The only heroes here are his fellow Seamen who did everything to disarm him without resorting to deadly force .
Oga I don grew
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 9:46am On Sep 20, 2024
malvisguy212:
believe me, if he obey, they will dismiss him.

You don't understand. The army is like a cult group.

If he did not sign off, not even the COAS has the right to collect his riffle. Only the President.

Just face it, the Nigeria army is a useless set of people, stop defending them please.
Which president a bloody civilian demand for gun submission.which sign off first if an enemy order his to surrender his gun or be killed will he insist on sign off first,if they killed him will he still clutch his rifle? rifles wey BH dey collect any how.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 9:52am On Sep 20, 2024
This is the highest level of indiscipline & very shameful in d presence of joint team of army,police,nscdc,navy, airforce
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Sermwell(m): 9:52am On Sep 20, 2024
wahalawahala:
inferior Okoro i no get time to read your useless epistle
Inferior Okoro is not the one shouting 'yoruba" na.

You go about shouting 'igbo'...'igbo' grin grin

Won fi awon igbo se e ni? cheesy cheesy

Dem use igbos swear for you?? cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Steve0979(m): 9:54am On Sep 20, 2024
bizzibodi:
In military you don't shoot until you are ordered to shoot... everything na order ooo!
are u one of dem? if yes wat branch of service are u. u don go north east before cos ? stop saying wat u don't AV full knowledge abt
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 9:54am On Sep 20, 2024
malvisguy212:
what an irony!! And you are here defending the Nigeria army . Why dindt the army go hard on the bandits for using the army riffle ? Instead they are punishing an innocent soldier.
Am not defending d army...I blamed d entire military for indiscipline & inability to work as a team.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by eteba(m): 9:59am On Sep 20, 2024
He's probably a repentant BH
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by efemena5050(m): 10:00am On Sep 20, 2024
kingxsamz:
So his reaction to being disarmed is because his parents did not flog him during childhood? undecided You're not bright at all, because you'll tell me what the correlation is in beating up a child and the behaviour of an army personnel who has received far more strict training. You people just type anything on here.
have noticed u now run along...
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Baselm: 10:07am On Sep 20, 2024
Wickedfact:
What is the due process in disarming someone?

That only due process is surprise. That is it.
Due process is to order him to submit his weapon at the armoury. If he disobeys a direct command, then that is insubordination. You don't disarm him by physical assault.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Funkyswagzz(m): 10:17am On Sep 20, 2024
stuffs4me:
Stop being emotional. Seaman Abbas was a danger to himself and to others around him and that was why the CO gave the order for him to be disarmed. You do not have any single protocol to follow anymore if the soldier becomes a threat to himself and his colleagues or the general public. Abbas could have been gunned down and his friends knew it and that was why they were trying to prevent him from getting into more trouble by holding him.

What laws guide them that is above human lives.

The CO is the hero for removing a very dangerous personnel from the active duty.

If a navy rating could behave in an animalistic manner like this in his base among his colleagues and in front of a Lt. Col as his CO, How do you think he would behave outside his base in front of civilians?

That rating could kill people easily. You or your own family members could be victims of his madness.
Bro I don't think you know the full story the main reason he was approached that way was because the wife went to brekete family to report Abbas. How does that translate to him being approached in such manner. Who did he kill or what warrant such approach?
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by wahalawahala: 10:33am On Sep 20, 2024
Sermwell:
Inferior Okoro is not the one shouting 'yoruba" na.

You go about shouting 'igbo'...'igbo' grin grin

Won fi awon igbo se e ni? cheesy cheesy

Dem use igbos swear for you?? cheesy cheesy cheesy
what's your problem jobless Okoro?, did I quote you?
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Thinkfree(m): 10:59am On Sep 20, 2024
bizzibodi:
That's is indiscipline in a joint operations any appointed CO is Co to everyone.
Elijah Shinga The Nigerian Army has established rules and procedures for disarming a soldier, which are outlined in various documents, including:

1. Nigerian Army Rules of Engagement (ROE)
2. Nigerian Army Code of Conduct
3. Nigerian Army Manual of Drill and Ceremonial
4. Nigerian Army Regulations

Here are general guidelines on disarming a soldier in the Nigerian Army:

*Reasons for Disarmament:*

1. Discipline: Failure to obey orders, misconduct, or breach of army regulations.
2. Medical reasons: Mental or physical incapacitation.
3. Security risks: Compromised loyalty, suspected espionage, or terrorism.
4. Administrative: End of service, retirement, or transfer.

*Procedure for Disarmament:*

1. Order from a superior officer: A commanding officer or authorized personnel issues a written order for disarmament.
2. Notification: The soldier is informed of the reason for disarmament and the procedure.
3. Search and seizure: The soldier's weapon(s) and ammunition are confiscated.
4. Inventory: The confiscated items are recorded and stored securely.
5. Temporary or permanent disarmament: Depending on the reason, the soldier may be temporarily or permanently disarmed.

*Disarmament Protocols:*

1. Voluntary surrender: The soldier willingly hands over their weapon(s).
2. Controlled disarmament: Trained personnel disarm the soldier in a controlled environment.
3. Forced disarmament: Used as a last resort, with necessary force, to prevent harm to self or others.

*Post-Disarmament Actions:*

1. Investigation: The incident is investigated to determine the circumstances.
2. Disciplinary action: Administrative or judicial action is taken against the soldier.
3. Medical evaluation: If necessary, the soldier undergoes medical assessment.
4. Reassignment or separation: The soldier may be reassigned or separated from service.

*Important Notes:*

1. Disarmament procedures may vary depending on the specific circumstances.
2. Only authorized personnel should perform disarmament.
3. Safety precautions are paramount to prevent accidents or harm.

Please consult official Nigerian Army documents or authorized personnel for detailed information on disarmament procedures.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Thinkfree(m): 11:00am On Sep 20, 2024
AmalaAtiEwedu:
but was there a chain of command in the JTF or not.?
answer. grin

racoon pls come and teach this man something about the armed forces regarding jtf grin
Elijah Shinga The Nigerian Army has established rules and procedures for disarming a soldier, which are outlined in various documents, including:

1. Nigerian Army Rules of Engagement (ROE)
2. Nigerian Army Code of Conduct
3. Nigerian Army Manual of Drill and Ceremonial
4. Nigerian Army Regulations

Here are general guidelines on disarming a soldier in the Nigerian Army:

*Reasons for Disarmament:*

1. Discipline: Failure to obey orders, misconduct, or breach of army regulations.
2. Medical reasons: Mental or physical incapacitation.
3. Security risks: Compromised loyalty, suspected espionage, or terrorism.
4. Administrative: End of service, retirement, or transfer.

*Procedure for Disarmament:*

1. Order from a superior officer: A commanding officer or authorized personnel issues a written order for disarmament.
2. Notification: The soldier is informed of the reason for disarmament and the procedure.
3. Search and seizure: The soldier's weapon(s) and ammunition are confiscated.
4. Inventory: The confiscated items are recorded and stored securely.
5. Temporary or permanent disarmament: Depending on the reason, the soldier may be temporarily or permanently disarmed.

*Disarmament Protocols:*

1. Voluntary surrender: The soldier willingly hands over their weapon(s).
2. Controlled disarmament: Trained personnel disarm the soldier in a controlled environment.
3. Forced disarmament: Used as a last resort, with necessary force, to prevent harm to self or others.

*Post-Disarmament Actions:*

1. Investigation: The incident is investigated to determine the circumstances.
2. Disciplinary action: Administrative or judicial action is taken against the soldier.
3. Medical evaluation: If necessary, the soldier undergoes medical assessment.
4. Reassignment or separation: The soldier may be reassigned or separated from service.

*Important Notes:*

1. Disarmament procedures may vary depending on the specific circumstances.
2. Only authorized personnel should perform disarmament.
3. Safety precautions are paramount to prevent accidents or harm.

Please consult official Nigerian Army documents or authorized personnel for detailed information on disarmament procedures.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Thinkfree(m): 11:02am On Sep 20, 2024
Afrojuju2017:
It doesn't matter what brigade you are from even under JTO a CO is a CO.

Even if mah only one tank he take senior you even if you started at same rank and he has been promoted to be CO of that particular formation at that moment. he instructs you to do A you do A to his satisfaction and append Sir at the end of your sentence.
Elijah Shinga The Nigerian Army has established rules and procedures for disarming a soldier, which are outlined in various documents, including:

1. Nigerian Army Rules of Engagement (ROE)
2. Nigerian Army Code of Conduct
3. Nigerian Army Manual of Drill and Ceremonial
4. Nigerian Army Regulations

Here are general guidelines on disarming a soldier in the Nigerian Army:

*Reasons for Disarmament:*

1. Discipline: Failure to obey orders, misconduct, or breach of army regulations.
2. Medical reasons: Mental or physical incapacitation.
3. Security risks: Compromised loyalty, suspected espionage, or terrorism.
4. Administrative: End of service, retirement, or transfer.

*Procedure for Disarmament:*

1. Order from a superior officer: A commanding officer or authorized personnel issues a written order for disarmament.
2. Notification: The soldier is informed of the reason for disarmament and the procedure.
3. Search and seizure: The soldier's weapon(s) and ammunition are confiscated.
4. Inventory: The confiscated items are recorded and stored securely.
5. Temporary or permanent disarmament: Depending on the reason, the soldier may be temporarily or permanently disarmed.

*Disarmament Protocols:*

1. Voluntary surrender: The soldier willingly hands over their weapon(s).
2. Controlled disarmament: Trained personnel disarm the soldier in a controlled environment.
3. Forced disarmament: Used as a last resort, with necessary force, to prevent harm to self or others.

*Post-Disarmament Actions:*

1. Investigation: The incident is investigated to determine the circumstances.
2. Disciplinary action: Administrative or judicial action is taken against the soldier.
3. Medical evaluation: If necessary, the soldier undergoes medical assessment.
4. Reassignment or separation: The soldier may be reassigned or separated from service.

*Important Notes:*

1. Disarmament procedures may vary depending on the specific circumstances.
2. Only authorized personnel should perform disarmament.
3. Safety precautions are paramount to prevent accidents or harm.

Please consult official Nigerian Army documents or authorized personnel for detailed information on disarmament procedures.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Ojiofor: 11:11am On Sep 20, 2024
OnionBandit:
Una own dey always dey different
I am not una,I am one person and it is obvious I am different from you.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Ojiofor: 11:14am On Sep 20, 2024
QuinModah:
You are the only person that has spoken well. Your cannot disarm a personnel like that, that was unprofessional. There are procedures of diagraming a uniform man.
Thank you for your wisdom to understand the unprofessional way they try to disarm that soldier going behind him to grab his gun like a thief isn't the right way.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Polarlight: 11:23am On Sep 20, 2024
If this is the video of the said bass ,the guy deserved what he is passing through.
We should leave sentiment from this.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by malvisguy212: 11:39am On Sep 20, 2024
bizzibodi:
Which president a bloody civilian demand for gun submission.which sign off first if an enemy order his to surrender his gun or be killed will he insist on sign off first,if they killed him will he still clutch his rifle? rifles wey BH dey collect any how.
go and confirm. Even the president has the power to change the security team in the army. He can even choose the COAS.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by AmalaAtiEwedu: 11:41am On Sep 20, 2024
Thinkfree:
Elijah Shinga The Nigerian Army has established rules and procedures for disarming a soldier, which are outlined in various documents, including:

1. Nigerian Army Rules of Engagement (ROE)
2. Nigerian Army Code of Conduct
3. Nigerian Army Manual of Drill and Ceremonial
4. Nigerian Army Regulations

Here are general guidelines on disarming a soldier in the Nigerian Army:

*Reasons for Disarmament:*

1. Discipline: Failure to obey orders, misconduct, or breach of army regulations.
2. Medical reasons: Mental or physical incapacitation.
3. Security risks: Compromised loyalty, suspected espionage, or terrorism.
4. Administrative: End of service, retirement, or transfer.

*Procedure for Disarmament:*

1. Order from a superior officer: A commanding officer or authorized personnel issues a written order for disarmament.
2. Notification: The soldier is informed of the reason for disarmament and the procedure.
3. Search and seizure: The soldier's weapon(s) and ammunition are confiscated.
4. Inventory: The confiscated items are recorded and stored securely.
5. Temporary or permanent disarmament: Depending on the reason, the soldier may be temporarily or permanently disarmed.

*Disarmament Protocols:*

1. Voluntary surrender: The soldier willingly hands over their weapon(s).
2. Controlled disarmament: Trained personnel disarm the soldier in a controlled environment.
3. Forced disarmament: Used as a last resort, with necessary force, to prevent harm to self or others.

*Post-Disarmament Actions:*

1. Investigation: The incident is investigated to determine the circumstances.
2. Disciplinary action: Administrative or judicial action is taken against the soldier.
3. Medical evaluation: If necessary, the soldier undergoes medical assessment.
4. Reassignment or separation: The soldier may be reassigned or separated from service.

*Important Notes:*

1. Disarmament procedures may vary depending on the specific circumstances.
2. Only authorized personnel should perform disarmament.
3. Safety precautions are paramount to prevent accidents or harm.

Please consult official Nigerian Army documents or authorized personnel for detailed information on disarmament procedures.
Oya which one did the superior disregard? grin
Pscho that refused to submit his weapon even before that they had to use style? grin
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by sadaxxx: 12:14pm On Sep 20, 2024
The Nigerian military routinely hires unbalanced individuals then exacerbate their conditions by needlessly increasing their stress levels, what do they expect to happen? I also know this isn't how to disarm an armed person.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by SlayQueenSlayer(m): 1:17pm On Sep 20, 2024
Okortor:
That's so unprofessional of him......he should be detained, face court martial and dismissed!
As a soldier, how would he have handled an attemp to disarm him? Is that how you disarm a soldier that is not threatining to shoot anyone? What are the official protocols for disarming soldiers under different scenerios?
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by StJasper(m): 1:24pm On Sep 20, 2024
Funkyswagzz:
So in a military law they say anybody's gun can be taken by force?
By higher authority.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Funkyswagzz(m): 1:33pm On Sep 20, 2024
StJasper:
By higher authority.
On what ground?
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Okortor: 2:03pm On Sep 20, 2024
I don't know you and you expect me to tell you? So u take it to bandits and bokoharam, Ba?
SlayQueenSlayer:
As a soldier, how would he have handled an attemp to disarm him? Is that how you disarm a soldier that is not threatining to shoot anyone? What are the official protocols for disarming soldiers under different scenerios?
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Chosimba: 2:22pm On Sep 20, 2024
koboko69:
I dont understand, he was asked to he disarmed- all he had to do is give up the weapon. The other naval rating assumed he was going to give it up, the fool decided not to and went on a life changing foolishness. He will be dismissed and may end up in jail.
As the senior officer was talking the other rating already moved in aggressively.

There was no need for that. Just let him drop it by himself.

Our soldiers are disciplined extremely harshly when they lose their service weapons and are trained to hang on no matter what...
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Harrisonwo(m): 2:46pm On Sep 20, 2024
bizzibodi:
Call MP from where?no mp there.
There are MP stationed to base. No MP was around as at that time, but the should have contacted them before trying to disarm him
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Yusufisraelj(m): 2:53pm On Sep 20, 2024
Ojiofor:
So military do not have due process of disarming a soldier than going behind him and grab his gun like a thief?
As regards your question, there is; infact he would be ordered to go to the armoury to submit his weapon, because he signed it, except in case of MIA then someone would do that.

I was referring to him cracking his gun and shooting, that's an offence triggered by an initial offence as well, two wrongs don't make a right.

I currently heard he has run mental because he was detained for over six years in the guard room, the general will equally answer for that kind of ridiculous punishment.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by HOSTCOM(m): 2:55pm On Sep 20, 2024
Before u can disarm an officer forcefully like this he must be showing erratic behavior or aggressiveness which is not the case here. It's wrong move and the so called commander is lucky they're on parade.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Donake: 4:47pm On Sep 20, 2024
Jobs gotten from getting a complimentary card from an emir or someone in government. How do bring out the best? Do we get this in African countries?
APOPTOSIS:
Lawlessness at its peak.
Saddening. Complete lack of professionalism across board.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bjtinz: 5:04pm On Sep 20, 2024
malvisguy212:
you know next to nothing. If the soldier did not sign off, even the chief of army staff cannot collect his riffle, the only person that can collect his riffle is the president (tinubu) . Riffle is more important than a soldier life in the army.

If a soldier die , the first thing the military ask is his riffle because they believe that is the only way to get revenge.
Lol. Everyone don become expat. tongue

So you really believe that the chief of staff (naval in this case) a man who signed his appointment letter cannot ask he be disarmed?? shocked This is a man that can sack on the spot no questions asked.

Anyways me no like to dey argue.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by NBM7(m): 5:46pm On Sep 20, 2024
The Nigerian Army has established rules and procedures for disarming a soldier, which are outlined in various documents, including:

1. Nigerian Army Rules of Engagement (ROE)
2. Nigerian Army Code of Conduct
3. Nigerian Army Manual of Drill and Ceremonial
4. Nigerian Army Regulations

Here are general guidelines on disarming a soldier in the Nigerian Army:

*Reasons for Disarmament:*

1. Discipline: Failure to obey orders, misconduct, or breach of army regulations.
2. Medical reasons: Mental or physical incapacitation.
3. Security risks: Compromised loyalty, suspected espionage, or terrorism.
4. Administrative: End of service, retirement, or transfer.

*Procedure for Disarmament:*

1. Order from a superior officer: A commanding officer or authorized personnel issues a written order for disarmament.
2. Notification: The soldier is informed of the reason for disarmament and the procedure.
3. Search and seizure: The soldier's weapon(s) and ammunition are confiscated.
4. Inventory: The confiscated items are recorded and stored securely.
5. Temporary or permanent disarmament: Depending on the reason, the soldier may be temporarily or permanently disarmed.

*Disarmament Protocols:*

1. Voluntary surrender: The soldier willingly hands over their weapon(s).
2. Controlled disarmament: Trained personnel disarm the soldier in a controlled environment.
3. Forced disarmament: Used as a last resort, with necessary force, to prevent harm to self or others.

*Post-Disarmament Actions:*

1. Investigation: The incident is investigated to determine the circumstances.
2. Disciplinary action: Administrative or judicial action is taken against the soldier.
3. Medical evaluation: If necessary, the soldier undergoes medical assessment.
4. Reassignment or separation: The soldier may be reassigned or separated from service.

*Important Notes:*

1. Disarmament procedures may vary depending on the specific circumstances.
2. Only authorized personnel should perform disarmament.
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