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In other words, Tinubu can not give good governance even after his boys want to ascribe Ambode's project to him

Sharpsharp00123:
u are a nitwit

See the rubbish u call defense

You're an asswipe

See the nonsense you call attack

And he is not a thief ba?

See as all these useless cursed obidient mastubsting on kettle calling charcoal black. Very useless shallow mined morons. Imagine obj calling someone a thief its like Anini calling Shina Rambo a thief.

Sharpsharp00123:
if your obi contested against obj when he made Maurice iwu inec chairman

U Igbos won't even see ballot box but today the same man who destroyed Nigeria by starting useless policies with democracy is now your hero

Hate has blinded u to the extent that even if the devil insults tinubu u people will b willing to hug him

There is a saying in Igboland "Igbo enweghị Eze"
It means the Igbos recognize no king.

Go to any Igbo community, decisions are communally criticized in the Aladinma which is a public parliament before being adopted.

Even in autonomous communities, a king takes no decision without his council of chiefs or Eze-in-Council.

The Ìgbo man hates irresponsible leadership.
They hate Hope in Imo as much as they hated Ikpeazụ in Abia.

They hate Tinubu to the bone as much as they hated Buhari of bad memory.

If the next general elections sees a man like Yemi Osinbajo emerging as a presidential flagbearer, he will totally divide the votes of the South East and those who told you Obi was an Igbo project will turn around to tell you that Igbos do not know alignment and national politics.

If Orji Uzor Kalu had contested instead of Obi in the last elections, Igbos would have voted Atiku.

By the next general elections, look at the three main political parties, pick the best presidential candidate out of the three and Congratulations!
You have successfully predicted Igbo bloc votes.

Kukutenla:
Let me quickly debunk some of the lies you folks in APC have allowed yourself to be fed just so you can hang on to arguably the biggest thief in Nigeria's democratic history
OBJ did not start election brouhaha. Election heist started in 1965 during the Akintola/Awo face off in SW. Another one was Ajasin/Omoboriowo in 1983. 2007 election was a farce. But Obj did not start election heist.

Lie. ITT was a song against Abiola not OBJ. I doubt you've heard the song before. It was in response to the Telecoms contract executed with much corruption. ITT was a telecoms company.

Another lie. Money politics has existed since the 80s in Nigeria. IBB banned former politicians from contesting due to their corrupt monetisation of politics. Monetisation of campaign happened under MKO Abiola in 1991. Salary of senate was not increased because of third term. That's a lie as well. The claim was that Ghana-must-go bags were given to senate members to approve third term for OBJ which was never substantiated.

Another lie. This was investigated by the House of Reps and found to be false. No $16bn was borrowed by OBJ and he actually built five gas powered plant as president. No president under him as built just one. You can check that fact.

Ota farms was started during OFN. But there's no evidence it was started with Nigeria's money. If you have bring it. There's no law against public servants running a farm in Nigeria.

Another lie. SM Afolabi was singularly responsible for the ID card fracas and OBJ ensured he was jailed. He died not too long after. If OBJ was part of the heist, he would have spoken out like Dasuki did to Buhari which you their e-rats conveniently ignored.

You lie! OBJ had no business with Haliburton. Only Atiku was mentioned and he was never indicted. The Congressman never met Atiku to give him any money

Same fayose was indicted in N2bn poultry scandal and impeached by his HoA under OBJ's prodding. Where's the poultry today? That's the man you're believing simply because he said something against a man you love to hate

OBJ contested against Buhari in 2003 and there were no reports of lack of election materials in NW. How can you compare tinubu to obj when it comes to stealing? Tinubu's thievery are clear to see! 24 years and counting and still sucking directly from Lagos tax while signing the biggest ever governors pension bill into law. Shall we also talk about how many Lagos State properties have been personalised and even the torrid and bitter kind of politics entrenched in Lagos till today. I always say if OBJ had siphoned enough money to be sharing to gobble youths and elderly and pose as an ethnic champion, he'll be a saint to clowns like you today regardless of his failings

let me take time to reply u now

So u are telling me the issue between awolowo n akintola affected d whole of Nigeria?
Wasn't it regional where awolowo lost out n wanted to unsit akintola whom he sees as a stooge

So u want to tell me it's not different from what obj did in d whole Nigeria that yaradua even jokingly said it that "all I heard was I am going to b the next president and I found myself here in Aso rock"

So u want to tell me u don't know about d fight between fayose n obj, the same way they both wrote election results on obj bed when they were in good terms was the same thing obj wanted to do to fayose when they had issues

Go n listen to the chorus of ITT, Obasanjo n abiola international thief thief...I think that's clear n straight forward

Oga my father was close to ladoja of oyo state n if u remember obj gave adedibu an ordinary thug power to remove a sitting governor
Ask yourself y ladoja was removed, it was simply because he opposed obj third term n years later in an interview he made it clear that he rejected 50 million naira cash from obj

Go n check d main reason ladoja was removed

Only if u know S M afolabi was from iree town in osun n my sister was schooling there then, it was a planned case between obj n afolabi, the man was put in big man jail so people can forget d case n d mistake he made was he kept money in d account of the oba of his village,before he came back d oba had shared d money between his children n taken poison that was what killed afolabi

Obj gave him a soft landing n d prison was only a facade to make people look away

Aside third term agenda haliborton scandal caused issue between obj n atiku which obj felt cheated n that's y obj vowed atiku will never b president

So u are telling me a governor of a state stole more than a president overseeing 36 states even when then president can borrow from anywhere n governors weren't that free unlike today

Fareke:
https://dailytrust.com/thieves-cant-provide-good-governance-obasanjo/

Supported

Hahahaha
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anonimi:
Will he name himself first as a thief who pretends to his 200 million mumu fellow Nigerians to be a saint







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMWUS1W_ITc?si=MEoOHUgsjJtL80B3

kukutenla

This is the pure news about d haliborton scandal u claim obj knew nothing about

Many of u just want to argue blindly on topics u know nothing about

Sharpsharp00123:
kukutenla

This is the pure news about d haliborton scandal u claim obj knew nothing about

Many of u just want to argue blindly on topics u know nothing about

Does this erase the fact that Thiefņubu is a thief?
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Tareq1105:
So conversion of Operation Feed the Nation Farm to Obasanjo Farm Ltd is about election? You mean it doesn't affect food production and Nigeria assets/economy?

Borrowing of $16b for Power reform and Nigeria and Nigerians cannot see any Power is about election and not economy? Are you aware that Tinubu is repaying that #16b loan now?

Are you saying that the money politics, raising Allowances of national assembly members deliberately for 3rd term political ambition is not affecting the economy?

Are you supporting conversion of national assets to personal?

Are you saying that the do or die election, killing and maiming of perceived political opponents, writing of election results while the election was ongoing doesn't affect the polity and the eventual leaders we produced?

Obasanjo shut Nigeria Universities for 11 months while himself and Atiku were occupied with building their personal universities. Is that a leader?

Harry Marshall was killed in his house in Abuja, Bola Ige was killed in his house in Ibadan and till today nothing happened and you're typing rubbish. How much of Obasanjo do you know?

Whatever you see happening today were results of Obasanjo failure, as the first civilian president in the 4th Republic to show good examples.

Therefore, if we're to name thieves here, Obasanjo should be first, followed by his VP then others that he groomed in his school of conversion of national assets to personal assets.

Please it's too early to get angry. And before you write your rebuttal, note that you're engaging a man at mid 50s so I know Obasanjo more than you.

God bless u sir

All these indomie generation kids know nothing about politics, they started getting familiar with politics around Buhari regime so they know nothing about those who ruled in d past

Brendaniel:
The question you should be asking is, is Tinubu's government better than his own?

the answer is all politician are thieves n rogues

If we are serious we should call for the execution of all of them without exemption

Chucks13:
And he is not a thief ba?

See as all these useless cursed obidient mastubsting on kettle calling charcoal black. Very useless shallow mined morons. Imagine obj calling someone a thief its like Anini calling Shina Rambo a thief.

don't mind those idiots

They are ready to hug d devil if d devil is willing to insult tinubu

To them nobody can go wrong except tinubu n it's simply Igbos doing that rubbish cos they lost to tinubu

Sharpsharp00123:
I understand u were still in d womb when obj was ruling but just Google

Who started all these election brouhaha we are facing today?
The tinubu n wike u blame all your life gave room for election but obj through Maurice iwu will declare winner even when people are still voting on d field

Obj has been a thief since a long time ago, go n listen to the song international thief thief(ITT) by fela

Obj was the president that started money politics in Nigeria, the senate we all want their salary to b reduced now obj raised their money then so they can give him a third term through constitutional amendment

The same obj that suddenly turns Messiah today was the same person who declared war on black out by borrowing 16 billion dollars only to convert it to personal use

The farm he now parades as Obasanjo farms otta, was named operation feed d nation which was meant to save Nigeria agricultural sector but today he's a Messiah cos he's insulting tinubu n co

This same man with S M afolabi scammed Nigeria with national id card only to kolobi d money

This same man that turns Messiah today was the same person who supervised haliburton scandal with atiku, the white man who was their accomplice Peter Jefferson has been jailed in his country but today same thieves are elders state man cos they are against tinubu we love to hate

My confessions by fayose, he made it clear they wrote election results on obj bed n even yaradua admitted the election that brought him in wasn't just

The obj u are praising today, I am sure if your obi contested against him then obj won't even supply election materials to d east

Brendaniel,with all you obi mumus now I can attest to d fact that hate reduce d brain cells

It is only a mad man that will insult tinubu n praise obj, it's just like praising a thief that stole 1 million but since he's now In your good book hes telling u to go after a thief that stole 100 thousand

I wish I can reverse d hand of time n allow your Messiah obi to contest against obj then u will know he won't even allow u Igbos vote let alone counting

They are small children na ...

DIVINEEVIDENCE:
There is a saying in Igboland "Igbo enweghị Eze"
It means the Igbos recognize no king.

Go to any Igbo community, decisions are communally criticized in the Aladinma which is a public parliament before being adopted.

Even in autonomous communities, a king takes no decision without his council of chiefs or Eze-in-Council.

The Ìgbo man hates irresponsible leadership.
They hate Hope in Imo as much as they hated Ikpeazụ in Abia.

They hate Tinubu to the bone as much as they hated Buhari of bad memory.

If the next general elections sees a man like Yemi Osinbajo emerging as a presidential flagbearer, he will totally divide the votes of the South East and those who told you Obi was an Igbo project will turn around to tell you that Igbos do not know alignment and national politics.

If Orji Uzor Kalu had contested instead of Obi in the last elections, Igbos would have voted Atiku.

By the next general elections, look at the three main political parties, pick the best presidential candidate out of the three and Congratulations!
You have successfully predicted Igbo bloc votes.

please before tinubu become president, what made Igbos hate him?

Did he steal anything from u Igbos or did he rule u?

Why did u hate someone who isn't affiliated with u in anyway?

Sharpsharp00123:
don't mind those idiots

They are ready to hug d devil if d devil is willing to insult tinubu

To them nobody can go wrong except tinubu n it's simply Igbos doing that rubbish cos they lost to tinubu

Yea, you are damn right. I swear they willl still lost to Tinubu again and again so if they want to commit suicides they can go ahead.

Sharpsharp00123:
the answer is all politician are thieves n rogues

If we are serious we should call for the execution of all of them without exemption

So why did you support Tinubu to become president even after knowing he is a thief and rogue?

Treadway:
Sukkot rest ooo

Obj had many successes and many wins directly attributable to him as far as 1999-2007 dispensation is concerned. Your jagaban has none, not as a gov from 1997-2007 nor as president now.

No group Obj and that failure abeg

come on bro they all vultures and scavengers. Just cuz one vulture threw a few crumbs our way don’t mean we worship a vulture 😁

Brendaniel:
So why did you support Tinubu to become president even after knowing he is a thief and rogue?

all our politicians are thieves but I will always support a thief that delivers in government

Do u expect me to support obi that u Igbos have been cursing from 2012 n we have the thread here

Even mrvitalis, abagworo who are now hardcore obi Mumu warned us about obi hypocrisy as far back as 2017 n they told us never to allow him near power

It's only a man blind by tribalism that will pick obi over tinubu

The obi u Igbos all cursed

Brendaniel:
When you tell them, they say all politicians are thieves, so they justify their action of picking the best of the worst set of thieves like Tinubu to lead them...

If all politicians are thieves then no nation in the world would have developed....




He would have been rated poorly if only most of the presidents after him performed better than him, especially Buhari and Tinubu that you both supported , everything you wrote here is all about election and not performance, nobody is calling any person a saint not even Obi, but can you compare Nigeria today as it was in OBJ's time, you guys just come out and spew nonsense because of tribal hate and dirty politics, look at the data below, you can't even compare OBJ and Jonathan.

Then setting the record straight, I witnessed 3 military governments before democracy in 1999 and I was in secondary school already, you guys have been so blinded with tribal hate towards the Igbos that anything the Igbos say or do, you guys are ready to oppose it.

Is OBJ not better than both of them in performance ?

There is no hate here, what Nigerians want is performance, any person who speaks the truth to you people is a hater

KingPure

Kurugu92

Can you afford a bag of rice during Obasanjo's regime though cheaper than what it is today? Can you afford to exchange the naira then? Many of you have low memory.

Brendaniel:
Who is associating every problem with him, the question you should ask is:

Should he should make things worse than he met it?

Is that what Chinese president, Putin and other world presidents you mentioned are doing?

If having a president is to make things worse than he met it then why do we have a president?

Nobody shud

Ikumapkayi:
Can you afford a bag of rice during Obasanjo's regime though cheaper than what it is today? Can you afford to exchange the naira then? Many of you have low memory.

Yes, yes and yes, my parents stocked our store with bags of rice and bags of Garri and beans, It is not the same today ...


It is people like you who keep supporting Nonsense governance that has brought the country to where it is today ..

OkCornel:
Dear Jagaban lovers,

What is the progress update on Tinubu’s eight point agenda he promised Nigerians in 2023? This is over one year now. How far?

1. food security;
2. poverty eradication;
3. growth,
4. job creation;
5. access to capital;
6. inclusion;
7. rule of law; and
8. fighting corruption

https://punchng.com/translating-tinubus-8-point-agenda-to-recovery/?amp

What about the 50 million jobs promised between 2023 to 2026? How many has Tinubu and his government created?

https://www.nairaland.com/7821154/tinubu-sets-3-year-economic-revival

The brainwashed won't stop defending him,nitwits.

Sharpsharp00123:
kukutenla

This is the pure news about d haliborton scandal u claim obj knew nothing about

Many of u just want to argue blindly on topics u know nothing about

You must be daft. A political cartoon is news. Are you this slow or you're just putting up an act?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2015/07/20/halliburton-bribery-the-timeline-of-a-scandal/&ved=2ahUKEwi-xuqL69OIAxXiU0EAHelwDfoQFnoECDgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3jrOpHYps9LYPcmvNlSd7j
Here's a timeline from pm news about haliburton scandal. Show me where OBJ was mentioned there. You guys just swallow bollocks out of hate but suddenly become more understanding when your favorite thieves are in power

Tinubu is not only a thief, he is a 5G BANDIT: with a record of increasing fuel price from N165 to N1,100 that is about 566% increase in less than a year and half

Tareq1105:
So conversion of Operation Feed the Nation Farm to Obasanjo Farm Ltd is about election? You mean it doesn't affect food production and Nigeria assets/economy?

Borrowing of $16b for Power reform and Nigeria and Nigerians cannot see any Power is about election and not economy? Are you aware that Tinubu is repaying that #16b loan now?

Are you saying that the money politics, raising Allowances of national assembly members deliberately for 3rd term political ambition is not affecting the economy?

Are you supporting conversion of national assets to personal?

Are you saying that the do or die election, killing and maiming of perceived political opponents, writing of election results while the election was ongoing doesn't affect the polity and the eventual leaders we produced?

Obasanjo shut Nigeria Universities for 11 months while himself and Atiku were occupied with building their personal universities. Is that a leader?

Harry Marshall was killed in his house in Abuja, Bola Ige was killed in his house in Ibadan and till today nothing happened and you're typing rubbish. How much of Obasanjo do you know?

Whatever you see happening today were results of Obasanjo failure, as the first civilian president in the 4th Republic to show good examples.

Therefore, if we're to name thieves here, Obasanjo should be first, followed by his VP then others that he groomed in his school of conversion of national assets to personal assets.

Please it's too early to get angry. And before you write your rebuttal, note that you're engaging a man at mid 50s so I know Obasanjo more than you.

Please can you stand on the dock and prove to the world that OBJ converted the Operation Feed the Nation Farm to himself and turned it to OBJ Otta Farm? Operation Feed the Nation was 1976 while It's Farm was established in 1979 after handed over to democratically elected president.
If tomorrow you're called to come and give life to this assertion, I hope you're handy with fact?
Just as I have been saying in all my comments here. Yes, you can blame OBJ for playing politics of do or die but it would be out of hatred to blame or talk ill of OBJ if it comes to governance and economy. And it is also an aberration for anyone to go low and compare the regime of OBJ, even his 15 first months to 15 months of Tinubu's regime. Anyone that does that has turned his brain upside down and doesn't know anything about governance.
In this first year of OBJ, he ensured the increase in workers salary and all teachers both at the primary to tertiary levels were all smiling home every month. They were buying cars and building houses and their rewards weren't until they get to heaven but the OBJ's government started rewarding them on earth.
Yes, $16 was borrowed and the effect on the electricity wasn't seen. I think that is the Nigerian's way. After this borrow, many dollars have been borrowed after that and till date the light is still epileptic.
You even lied that Tinubu is still paying for the money borrowed. All debt incurred were forgiven and cleared before the expiration of his tenure, precisely 2006. At that he was able to save ₦10.72trillion.
You're even bringing frivolity into the conversation, claiming University was on strike for 11 months during OBJ. Please tell me any regime in Nigeria that schools wasn't closed or industrial action wasn't witnessed? Please is not having industrial action during your regime the test of good governance? Till tomorrow sector of government will continue to go on industrial action no matter what. So, stop bringing in frivolity.
You also said, everything that is happening today was as a result of OBJ's failure. This your statement is not logical at all. That someone failed is that the yardstick that you must fail too. With this your ideology l, you mean to tell us that Nigeria will continue to fail because OBJ failed. This is beyond any iota of reasoning to have had such notion. It makes no sense at all. Those failing just want to fail because they have nothing upstairs and they are failure personified.
OBJ created a robust economy and if such had been built upon, we would not have been in this sorry state. Every president comes after him to do their self ambition and not to work for the betterment of the country. Today Tinubu has also come and have wasted trillions on self and family already and you expect the country to be better. No miracle can make it better my brother. Whatever we sow, we must reap.

diamond68:
come on bro they all vultures and scavengers. Just cuz one vulture threw a few crumbs our way don’t mean we worship a vulture 😁

Nobody is worshipping obj
But in terms of corruption, you can't compare OBJ and Tinubu
Tinubu is easily the most corruption politicians since 1999 and the facts are all out there. Those who support him do so for pittance and bigotry. No same mind will support him

Big one
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You didn't provide good governance and foundation while you were our president.....the bad leaders and leadership we have now, just simply continued from where you stopped sir

Thiefņubu uu

Kukutenla:
Nobody is worshipping obj
But in terms of corruption, you can't compare OBJ and Tinubu
Tinubu is easily the most corruption politicians since 1999 and the facts are all out there. Those who support him do so for pittance and bigotry. No same mind will support him

I am not interested in quantifying the virtues of a vulture. It is not an Olympic event. Fact remains they are all cut throat vultures

diamond68:
I am not interested in quantifying the virtues of a vulture. It is not an Olympic event. Fact remains they are all cut throat vultures

I agree with you totally
But you can see that guy telling lies just to defend Tinubu
That's my problem with these asswipes
Put OBJ or Obi on a scale and compare with Tinubu in terms of corruption, Tinubu is shoulders high above both. But you'll see this buffoons calling out lesser thieves in defence of the grandmaster of looting

Sharpsharp00123 I'm still waiting for your evidence linking OBJ to Haliburton and the $16bn power probe.
Meanwhile here is a story from PUNCH on Tinubu and aphabeta looting. Mind you alphabeta had been a looting machine since 2002 and still remains so till today

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://punchng.com/n20bn-tinubu-alpha-beta-ex-md-discuss-out-of-court-settlement/&ved=2ahUKEwj284fQ7dOIAxWXRkEAHYFYMgcQFnoECBIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1BWpaUaoUPwY3z6UXv_Yjl