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People Replied:
Hmmm. If one wants to grow into the assignment God has for them, one ought to surround oneself with people who challenge and elevate one.

The Speaker Continued:
Oh yes! You see, you have to be in total control of your destiny by shutting out those with anti-destiny infectious states of mind like conglomerate peoples of cognitive universes, random seekers, and the likes of them who are antagonistic to dependence on God [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit]. Rather, consciously put yourselves in situations where you have to be inclusive of smarter people who think differently than you do, thus challenging the basic ideas of less smart folks (like conglomerate peoples of cognitive universes, random seekers, and the likes of them). That way, you get truly comfortable, as therein lies great leadership: getting comfortable with other smart people in the room; for, if you alone populate your camp, you get to be the only smart person in the room.

The very smart Joseph seemed to have populated his camp, and, as should a smart person, sought to blend into his brothers' camp, having supposedly considered them smarter than himself. Being the fellow he is known to have been, the little boy sought to be in total control of his destiny, as evidenced in his dependence on God [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit] who had justly afforded him a glimpse of his destiny at that tender age...and even the destiny of his family. His father, Jacob, who Joseph can be said to have taken after as regards dependence on God [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit], could relate with the boy's destiny, though with heaviness of heart. But his brothers, like conglomerate peoples of cognitive universes and random seekers (at the time), could not relate.

As a result, those brothers of his, upon noticing that their father loved Joseph more than them all (not even based on Joseph being smart), hated him and could not speak peaceably to him, as is typical of conglomerate peoples of cognitive universes, random seekers, and the likes of them...otherwise, how could they? The same Joseph who found favor in the sight of an Egyptian and served the Egyptian such that the Egyptian made him overseer of his entire house? Even putting all that he had under Joseph’s authority? Then there’s Pharaoh who presented Joseph to all Egypt as being more discerning and wise (smarter) than all Egypt because he gave soothing interpretations to his dreams: the same dream that—when Joseph had and told his brothers, they hated him even more?

But thanks to God who makes masterpieces out of messes, Jacob’s spirit, which had been and remained deeply hurt on account of his perceived demise of his beloved son (no thanks to his other sons who tricked him into believing that a wild beast had devoured Joseph), got revived when word of Joseph’s aliveness and fortune was brought to him by those same sons, especially when he saw the carts which Joseph had sent to carry him to Egypt. Upon beholding his son again in Egypt, with great fulfillment he declared, “Now let me die, since I have seen your face, because you are still alive.” Upon Jacob's death, Joseph's brothers, still possessing anti-destiny infectious states of mind, wondered why Joseph, who they know to be a controller of his destiny, wouldn't shut them out. So they again convened to wonder if Joseph would repay them for the evil they did to him. But unlike them, Joseph, being smarter, was more concerned about their well-being in that strange land.

When you're set to take dominion over what God has for you, you have to be ready to accommodate other smart people in the room. You have to get outside your camp to get the victory, as you can't get the victory staying in your circle, or your clique, or around people who always salute you and celebrate you. That was exactly what played out in Joseph's case...only that his brothers, though with evil intent, facilitated the procedure of Joseph taking dominion over what God had for him by shutting the little boy out of their camp, having subconsciously found themselves to not be smart enough to be accommodated in the same room by one who was set to take dominion over what God had for him. So they unknowingly cast Joseph out to the land where his victory was domiciled.

Being that what goes around—comes around, the tables eventually turned and Joseph was at liberty to pay his brothers back with their coin. But his action toward them evidenced his undisputable position over them as "smarter," as, having gone through thick and thin to become king in a strange pagan land that's known for violent dissensions and discord, he still could afford to handle his brothers with leniency, attesting to the validity of the words of a great bishop of our time that "how one handles conflict determines whether one becomes king or not..." adding that "if one wants to grow into the assignment God has for them, one ought to surround oneself with folks who challenge and elevate them." Having had no such persons to surround himself with (since his brothers had alienated him from his father, Jacob, the one person who played that role in his life), Joseph's only recourse, like his father in the house of Laban, had been God [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit].

His uncle, Esau, was not that smart, as he, seeing that Isaac, with good intention (unlike Joseph's brothers) had shut Jacob out by sending Jacob to Padan Aram where his victory (like that of Joseph in Egypt) was domiciled, got bitter instead of taking to heart Isaac’s motive in doing so. Seeing that Isaac had charged Jacob to be smart enough to not take a wife from the daughters of Canaan because of their unruliness, and especially that Jacob was smart enough to obey his father, thus leaving for Padan Aram, Esau, further seeing that the unruly daughters of Canaan didn't please his Dad, foolishly went ahead to grace his store of wives with those very women just to get at his father for having sent Jacob away so he’d elude his vengeance. It is due to lines of events like this that Jesus asserts that "many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first." God [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit], having foreknown that Jacob would be the smarter one, stated his preference for Jacob early on.

While it is instructive to smartly take the bull by the horns in shutting out those with anti-destiny infectious states of mind but accommodate other smart people in one's camp in order to not be the only smart one in the room, thus setting up oneself to take dominion over what God has for him/her, Joseph and his father Jacob seemed to have been plunged into such situations unprepared and under unfavorable circumstance. Howbeit, having consequently, at an initial point, come upon other smart persons (Laban for Jacob and Potiphar for Joseph) who accommodated them in their camp upon noticing them as equally smart...or smarter persons, both ceased from being the only smart ones in the room...until they, again, eventually became the only smart ones in the room...which accounted for the seeming misfortune that plagued them. Being seemingly handicapped at that point, the only other smarter persons they could accommodate in the room were God [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit].

As a consequence, they grew into the assignment God had for them and ruled, controlled, and dominated what God had for them, having additionally surrounded themselves with persons who challenged and elevated them...Rachel for Jacob and Pharaoh for Joseph. On that basis, they ruled, controlled, and dominated their destinies, consciously being inclusive of smarter persons who challenged their ideas and elevated them, thus turning out great leaders who were comfortable enough to do as they wished with their things...keeping a safe distance from conglomerate peoples of cognitive universes and the likes of them who get so unwarrantedly intent on calling the shots for others, even subjecting others to rejection for not heeding the shots they call because others, like Jacob and Joseph, being smarter, tend to deem themselves as only being answerable to more worthy calls which put them in the positions of calling the shots themselves. That kind of endeavor has had the likes of Jacob and Joseph (before growing into what God had for them and taking dominion thereof) thus wondering and marveling: "Are the eyes of certain people evil because others, like them, are ambitious too?"

The last will indeed be first and the first will be the last, for many are called but few are chosen. After all, hasn’t one of God’s doings which is superbly marvelous in our eyes been the stone that the builders rejected becoming the chief cornerstone?, as is well-evidenced in the lives of Jacob and Joseph?...unlike it is with conglomerate peoples of cognitive universes, random seekers, and the likes of them who are like Scribes and Pharisees sitting in Moses’ seat? As Jesus cautioned, those of this day and age who, wanting to grow into the assignment God has for them and take dominion thereof—ought to only observe and practice truths that Scribes and Pharisees sitting in Moses’ seat hypocritically proclaim; but not do according to their works because they do not practice what they preach...for, they, like Jerusalem, kill prophets and stone those sent to them. How often God [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit] had wanted to gather them together as hens gather their chicks under their wings. But they are often unwilling to let that happen...for which reason their houses are often left to them desolate. Thus, shutting such persons out becomes a necessary necessity.

Such infectious persons, upon being shut out by blessed folks who want to rule, control, and dominate their destinies (thus ridding themselves of lots with anti-destiny infectious states of mind), tend to see the blessed folks no more till they acknowledge that blessed are they that come in the name of the Lord (as it was with Esau upon seeing Jacob again and with Joseph's brothers upon seeing Joseph again). It thence becomes instructive to blessed folks of today who, wanting to grow into the assignment God has for them, to only surround themselves with people who challenge and elevate them...while continuing to take heed that Scribes and Pharisees sitting in Moses’ seat...and indeed no one at all, deceives them; for many, like Scribes and Pharisees sitting in Moses’ seat, could come in Jesus’ name and claim to be the Christ, thus deceiving many. That’s why one ought to be watchful for the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place (persons who forsake Christ) spoken of by Daniel the prophet, so that, like those in Judea—spoken of in the bible—who are supposed to flee to the mountains in such circumstance, they may also flee, but to other smart persons like them…and to God [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit].

The big question now would be: "How is one supposed to know Scribes and Pharisees sitting in Moses’ seat and the likes of them in a world like ours where deceit tends to have become a welcome and acceptable modus operandi?” Normally, that category of persons should be known by their fruits. But it takes time to discern fruits. However, an easy way to know them is by their speech: it betrays them...just as Peter’s speech betrayed him when he denied Jesus before those who said to him: “Surely you also are one of them. Your speech betrays you.” Therefore, pay attention to their speech…as truly smart persons do, not just to determine the genuineness of their speech but to likewise have and know what to say when speaking (in the event of it)...unlike dumb people who never listen, thus having nothing to say but wanting to talk nonetheless. And so they, like Scribes and Pharisees in Moses’ seat, become known by their speech which betrays them. Smart people thus require of them:

"As you require our listening ears, is it truth and scriptures you want to proclaim? That it may be fulfilled to the hearing? Why not do it like Jesus, then? He never clamored for listening ears. He simply found scriptures that had been proclaimed and reiterated them to the hearing...not forcing people to listen to him. Didn’t Jesus, closing the book, giving it back to the attendant, sitting down, and having the eyes of all in the synagogue fixed on Him, say to them: “Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing?” Jesus himself becomes a case study here...for, he, wanting Peter and his other apostles to grow into the assignment God had for them, surrounded them with himself, thus challenging and elevating them into the dominion that God had designed for them. Therefore, if you seek to also take dominion over what God has designed for you, simply step outside your camp and accommodate other smart or smarter persons in the room who challenge your ideas and elevate you. If there are no such persons within reach, there will always be God [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit] to cling to. That way, you unfailingly get to rule, control, and dominate your destiny. Trust these words. Jah bless!

I don't know why Christians like to deceive themselves!

Assuming jesus ran away like Jonah and didn't die what would have happened?

Your answer would be that wouldn't happen!

He just must die!

That's the same way you have no control over your destiny! It may work for some but not everyone! Some will be rich without work! Some will work hard and barely survive! Some will work hard and get rich!

jezuzboi:
People Replied:
Hmmm. If one wants to grow into the assignment God has for them, one ought to surround oneself with people who challenge and elevate one.
The Speaker Continued:
Oh yes! You see, you have to be in total control of your destiny by shutting out those with anti-destiny infectious states of mind like conglomerate peoples of cognitive universes, random seekers, and the likes of them who are antagonistic to dependence on God [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit]. Rather, consciously put yourselves in situations where you have to be inclusive of smarter people who think differently than you do, thus challenging the basic ideas of less smart folks (like conglomerate peoples of cognitive universes, random seekers, and the likes of them). That way, you get truly comfortable, as therein lies great leadership: getting comfortable with other smart people in the room; for, if you alone populate your camp, you get to be the only smart person in the room.
The very smart Joseph seemed to have populated his camp, and, as should a smart person, sought to blend into his brothers' camp, having supposedly considered them smarter than himself. Being the fellow he is known to have been, the little boy sought to be in total control of his destiny, as evidenced in his dependence on God [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit] who had justly afforded him a glimpse of his destiny at that tender age...and even the destiny of his family. His father, Jacob, who Joseph can be said to have taken after as regards dependence on God [the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit], could relate with the boy's destiny, though with heaviness of heart. But his brothers, like conglomerate peoples of cognitive universes and random seekers (at the time), could not relate.....

OP, stop letting these ridiculous stories that hold no real meaning as far as life in the 21st century reduce you to living a life of poverty and misery thinking that somehow you please some deity by it. Sango, Obatala, Obangiji, Osanobua, Amadioha... and other Nigerian deities are not appeased or pleased by such nonsense. So what in the world makes you think that the God of Israel —YHWH— who swore by His name that His only people are those descended from the bloodline of Jacob would be pleased by such lunacy? What gives you the idea that Jesus Christ who proclaimed that He was sent by His Father only to the Lost sheep of Israel — descendants of Jacob — would be moved by this nonsense you lot cling to?

The only ones who feed you these lies and such living of yours matter to are your scammers-in-the-lords and others like them, and they are not themselves striving in any way to live as people used to back 2000 or more years ago. No, they are busy riding Bentleys and private jets, building massive houses, and using money they scammed off of you all to do so. The only ones you please by this foolishness are those men you serve.

AntiChristian:
I don't know why Christians like to deceive themselves!

Assuming jesus ran away like Jonah and didn't die what would have happened?

Your answer would be that wouldn't happen!

He just must die!

That's the same way you have no control over your destiny! It may work for some but not everyone! Some will be rich without work! Some will work hard and barely survive! Some will work hard and get rich!

A preacher was asked if Jesus would have still died if Adam and Eve hadn't sinned. His answer was "yes," because provision for his death was made before Adam and Eve came onboard. I'd love to further explain, even buttressing my points with scriptural backings. But "Christians like to deceive themselves..." so what's the point?

Kobojunkie:
OP, stop letting these ridiculous stories that hold no real meaning as far as life in the 21st century reduce you to living a life of poverty and misery thinking that somehow you please some deity by it. Sango, Obatala, Obangiji, Osanobua, Amadioha... and other Nigerian deities are not appeased or pleased by such nonsense. So what in the world makes you think that the God of Israel —YHWH— who swore by His name that His only people are those descended from the bloodline of Jacob would be pleased by such lunacy? What gives you the idea that Jesus Christ who proclaimed that He was sent by His Father only to the Lost sheep of Israel — descendants of Jacob — would be moved by this nonsense you lot cling to?

The only ones who feed you these lies and such living of yours matter to are your scammers-in-the-lords and others like them, and they are not themselves striving in any way to live as people used to back 2000 or more years ago. No, they are busy riding Bentleys and private jets, building massive houses, and using money they scammed off of you all to do so. The only ones you please by this foolishness are those men you serve.

The big question now would be: "How is one supposed to know Scribes and Pharisees sitting in Moses’ seat and the likes of them in a world like ours where deceit tends to have become a welcome and acceptable modus operandi?” Normally, that category of persons should be known by their fruits. But it takes time to discern fruits. However, an easy way to know them is by their speech: it betrays them...just as Peter’s speech betrayed him when he denied Jesus before those who said to him: “Surely you also are one of them. Your speech betrays you.” Therefore, pay attention to their speech…as truly smart persons do, not just to determine the genuineness of their speech but to likewise have and know what to say when speaking (in the event of it)...unlike dumb people who never listen, thus having nothing to say but wanting to talk nonetheless. And so they, like Scribes and Pharisees in Moses’ seat, become known by their speech which betrays them.

jezuzboi:
A preacher was asked if Jesus would have still died if Adam and Eve hadn't sinned. His answer was "yes," because provision for his death was made before Adam and Eve came onboard. I'd love to further explain, even buttressing my points with scriptural backings. But "Christians like to deceive themselves..." so what's the point?

They don't believe in planned destiny except in the case of Jesus's death!