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Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 11:19am On Oct 11, 2024
jorion:
Women are naturally prey disposed to look for the best genes for their children and most women take wealth as a measurement of the best genes whether they like it or not.

That's why women want to be young and beautiful while men want to be physically strong and rich.
But how come men are NOT predisposed to look for the best genes for their children?? A high flying ceo would marry a girl from the poorest family
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by QuinQ: 11:36am On Oct 11, 2024
DaddyCoool:
If you consider that habits are one of the major things that lead to poverty, and consider that genetics and habits are inextricably linked, you'd have to conclude that genetics play a major role in poverty transmission.

Other things that can be "genetically" transmitted include limited access to education due to family poverty, lack of "social capital", potential genetic predispositions to health issues including mental health issues, lack of financial literacy and career guidance within the family unit, and the cycle of low expectations and limited opportunities passed down through generations.
Also, inadequate nutrition in childhood and early life stress associated with poverty, can impact cognitive development and therefore future economic opportunities!
Reminds of who NOT to marry!
I like this topic, call me elitist. Mods nlfpmod fontpage
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 12:45pm On Oct 11, 2024
QuinQ:
Reminds of who NOT to marry!
I like this topic, call me elitist. Mods nlfpmod fontpage
It's not elitist, it is being realistic. Thanks
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 12:48pm On Oct 11, 2024
TheBreastSucker:
This is one of the reasons why I'm careful of the girls I suck their breasts.

I avoid poor girls like a plague because I don't want to mistakenly suck in poverty genes and contaminate my ancestral family gene pool grin
Can't say I blame ya. But you can use condom when sucking na😆
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by ilovewater89(f): 2:30pm On Oct 11, 2024
DaddyCoool:
Parents influence their children so much
For a child from a poor family to escape poverty, he must be lucky to have been "stepped out" to aquire values and attributes from outside the family
I feel this is true but then you can't strike out luck
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op):
ilovewater89:
I feel this is true but then you can't strike out luck
Oh you definitely can't. Infact luck is a major aspect of it all. See how Trump put it below

Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by hstar: 3:11pm On Oct 11, 2024
koladata:
If you can inherit IQ and how you think determines how you become successful in most cases, then yes, wealth is genetic. There's a reason why the richest african man's money is not up to elum musk's yearly tax.

We couldn't have been unfortunate with bad government since 1960, wickedness is also genetic
If that's the case

Then, footballing skill IQ should also be genetic

The likes of Pele, Maradona, Okocha, George weah e.t.c should be able to transfer their skills to their offspring

But no, the other way is the case

Why please? Any explanation on that?
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 3:32pm On Oct 11, 2024
hstar:
If that's the case

Then, footballing skill IQ should also be genetic

The likes of Pele, Maradona, Okocha, George weah e.t.c should be able to transfer their skills to their offspring

But no, the other way is the case

Why please? Any explanation on that?
But their kids almost always end up being very good at whatever the pap excelled at.
That one is certainly genetic though sometimes the mommy side dilutes it
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by hstar: 3:52pm On Oct 11, 2024
DaddyCoool:
But their kids almost always end up being very good at whatever the pap excelled at.
That one is certainly genetic though sometimes the mommy side dilutes it
I disagree though,
Zidane 29 yrs old son recently retired from active football,

Why? The expectation is high from pple that he would match his father

Alas, he didn't
He then bowed out and focused on business


Other star players son are not even known talk less of excelling

Jackie Chan son nkor?
Should I tell you that he's not even ambitious at all or has passion and creative and determined to become someone in life the way his father did?

Genetic?
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DOUBLEBARREL(m): 4:00pm On Oct 11, 2024
poverty is behavioral[color=#006600][/color] if u do poor things u will be poor, if u think like a poor man , spend like a poor man, sleep like a poor man, move in a poor neighborhood, and do what majority of the poorest people do in the neighborhoodyou might get rick by luck BUT you will eventually become poor again... same thing for wealth , u might get poor by circumstances >>>youd also become rich again eventually
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DOUBLEBARREL(m): 4:07pm On Oct 11, 2024
DaddyCoool:
Oh you definitely can't. Infact luck is a major aspect of it all. See how Trump put it below
thats what people like trump want you to think .. so u can play more powerball millions ticket and they own the casino churning out these ticket, luck has little to do with it. if u do your part ,life will give its portion, luck is why the churches are filled. it a game of time (preparation) and chance(oppurtunity)
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by HellVictorinho8(m): 4:09pm On Oct 11, 2024
hstar:
I disagree though,
Zidane 29 yrs old son recently retired from active football,

Why? The expectation is high from pple that he would match his father

Alas, he didn't
He then bowed out and focused on business


Other star players son are not even known talk less of excelling

Jackie Chan son nkor?
Should I tell you that he's not even ambitious at all or has passion and creative and determined to become someone in life the way his father did?

Genetic?
Av neva accepted like fada like son theory

Am an evidence dat itz empty

Cuz life doesnt make sense 2 me but it makes sense 2 my dad

Dat alone

Jus 4get
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by HellVictorinho8(m): 4:10pm On Oct 11, 2024
DOUBLEBARREL:
thats what people like trump want you to think .. so u can play more powerball millions ticket and they own the casino churning out these ticket, luck has little to do with it. if u do your part ,life will give its portion, luck is why the churches are filled. it a game of time (preparation) and chance(oppurtunity)
Depends on what u mean by luck
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 5:01pm On Oct 11, 2024
hstar:
I disagree though,
Zidane 29 yrs old son recently retired from active football,

Why? The expectation is high from pple that he would match his father

Alas, he didn't
He then bowed out and focused on business


Other star players son are not even known talk less of excelling

Jackie Chan son nkor?
Should I tell you that he's not even ambitious at all or has passion and creative and determined to become someone in life the way his father did?

Genetic?
If you take time and study it you'd see that some of their children are always good at what one or both parents excelled at. Maybe not excell at it but good (consider that it is diluted by one parent - opposites attract).
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Adasun(m): 5:08pm On Oct 11, 2024
DaddyCoool:
"Poverty dna" would mean DNA for things like laziness, being risk averse, timidity, spendthrift, predisposition to mental issues or health issues, inability to delay gratification, inability to plan ahead, etc.
apart from let's say mental illness,is the list not talking about someone's character? DNA triggered something In me though...
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 5:12pm On Oct 11, 2024
DOUBLEBARREL:
thats what people like trump want you to think .. so u can play more powerball millions ticket and they own the casino churning out these ticket, luck has little to do with it. if u do your part ,life will give its portion, luck is why the churches are filled. it a game of time (preparation) and chance(oppurtunity)
Trump is actually right. If you think about it, it all boils down to LUCK! You never chose any of the things that determine your destiny - where you were born, to whom, your thinking pattern and type of brain, your environment, your personality, whether you are normal, sane,intelligent, your mindset, the type of info you're exposed to, genetic diseases, etc
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 5:17pm On Oct 11, 2024
Adasun:
apart from let's say mental illness,is the list not talking about someone's character? DNA triggered something In me though...
Character, habit, are definitely intertwined with DNA, don't you think?
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Faruq918: 5:28pm On Oct 11, 2024
I’m really learning here guys thank u 🙏
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DOUBLEBARREL(m): 5:31pm On Oct 11, 2024
DaddyCoool:
Trump is actually right. If you think about it, it all boils down to LUCK! You never chose any of the things that determine your destiny - where you were born, to whom, your thinking pattern and type of brain, your environment, your personality, whether you are normal, sane,intelligent, your mindset, the type of info you're exposed to, genetic diseases, etc
okay.. okay sir luck plays a significant chunk in outcome of situation until one can become observant enough --> to see a pattern ---> to optimize the pattern for ones advantage.. life is hard yes ,i wont argue that one
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Adasun(m): 5:44pm On Oct 11, 2024
DaddyCoool:
Character, habit, are definitely intertwined with DNA, don't you think?
nah I disagree on this one...


Once I have enough data, I will watch the video... poverty needs to be eradicated seriously, tagging it to DNA...well
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 5:45pm On Oct 11, 2024
DOUBLEBARREL:
okay.. okay sir luck plays a significant chunk in outcome of situation until one can become observant enough --> to see a pattern ---> to optimize the pattern for ones advantage.. life is hard yes ,i wont argue that one
Life is NOT hard for everyone. Some of us have quite easy, enjoyable lives.
To be able to "become observant enough --> to see a pattern ---> to optimize the pattern for ones advantage" depends on previous events that you never chose. You don't even choose your thoughts that lead to your decisions and actions. Where do your thoughts come from?
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 7:58pm On Oct 11, 2024
Adasun:
nah I disagree on this one...


Once I have enough data, I will watch the video... poverty needs to be eradicated seriously, tagging it to DNA...well
Well, clearly certain personality traits are passed on through DNA. Combine that with poverty-inducing environment generation to generation and you have an almost inescapable cycle.
In the video he simply says that poverty is passed on genetically. But I think he means net effect NOT that there is specific poverty gene passed on.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Domainer1999: 9:25pm On Oct 11, 2024
cc caveadullam, pansophist, lordadam16, Gerrard32, here we go...
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by pansophist(m): 9:57pm On Oct 11, 2024
Generational poverty is NOT genetic.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Karleb(m): 10:07pm On Oct 11, 2024
Biologically, poverty isn't genetic.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Adasun(m): 10:23pm On Oct 11, 2024
DaddyCoool:
Well, clearly certain personality traits are passed on through DNA. Combine that with poverty-inducing environment generation to generation and you have an almost inescapable cycle.
In the video he simply says that poverty is passed on genetically. But I think he means net effect NOT that there is specific poverty gene passed on.
now i resonate with this line of thaught... thank you
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 11:14pm On Oct 11, 2024
Domainer1999:
cc caveadullam, pansophist, lordadam16, Gerrard32, here we go...
pansophist:
Generational poverty is NOT genetic.
Karleb:
Biologically, poverty isn't genetic.
Well, if you agree that certain personality traits are genetically passed on, and you agree that certain personality traits are poverty-inducing, then combine that with genetic poverty-inducing susceptibility to certain physical and mental ailments, then combine with poverty-inducing environmental factors that exist generation to generation - the net effect is that poverty is certainly genetically passed on!
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Karleb(m): 12:09am On Oct 12, 2024
DaddyCoool:
Well, if you agree that certain personality traits are genetically passed on, and you agree that certain personality traits are poverty-inducing, then combine that with genetic poverty-inducing susceptibility to certain physical and mental ailments, then combine with poverty-inducing environmental factors that exist generation to generation - the net effect is that poverty is certainly genetically passed on!
This is why philosophers should stay away from natural science. cheesy

Poverty is not an inheritable trait. Offspring can't even inherit a broken leg.

No personality is poverty-inducing.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 12:30am On Oct 12, 2024
Karleb:
This is why philosophers should stay away from natural science. cheesy

Poverty is not an inheritable trait. Offspring can't even inherit a broken leg.

No personality is poverty-inducing.
Timidity, laziness, risk-aversion, obesity, various physical and mental illness, are all inheritable and are al poverty-inducing

Here's what I wrote earlier:

Other things (besides habits) that can be "genetically" transmitted include limited access to education due to family poverty, lack of "social capital", potential genetic predispositions to health issues including mental health issues, lack of financial literacy and career guidance within the family unit, and the cycle of low expectations and limited opportunities passed down through generations.
Also, inadequate nutrition in childhood and early life stress associated with poverty, can impact cognitive development and therefore future economic opportunities!
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Karleb(m): 12:37am On Oct 12, 2024
DaddyCoool:
Timidity, laziness, risk-aversion, obesity, various physical and mental illness, are all inheritable and are al poverty-inducing

Here's what I wrote earlier:

Other things (besides habits) that can be "genetically" transmitted include limited access to education due to family poverty, lack of "social capital", potential genetic predispositions to health issues including mental health issues, lack of financial literacy and career guidance within the family unit, and the cycle of low expectations and limited opportunities passed down through generations.
Also, inadequate nutrition in childhood and early life stress associated with poverty, can impact cognitive development and therefore future economic opportunities!
Oga. Leave science and focus on your philosophy full time.



Timidity, laziness, risk-aversion, obesity, various physical and mental illness, are all inheritable and are al poverty-inducing



While these are heritable, they are not poverty inducing.

You can be a mad man and still be printing money. Stop finding correlation where there isn't any.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 1:38am On Oct 12, 2024
Karleb:
Oga. Leave science and focus on your philosophy full time.



Timidity, laziness, risk-aversion, obesity, various physical and mental illness, are all inheritable and are al poverty-inducing



While these are heritable, they are not poverty inducing.

You can be a mad man and still be printing money. Stop finding correlation where there isn't any.
@bolded, not when that madness has resulted in your people being generationally poor - especially when it is then combined with generational poverty mindset and other poverty-inducing environmental factors. The net result of all this is that poverty is passed on from parents to children, unless a very strong outside element intervenes.
As Kiyosaki exaggeratedly put it: "If you're poor, you will always be poor"
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Karleb(m): 1:54am On Oct 12, 2024
DaddyCoool:
@bolded, not when that madness has resulted in your people being generationally poor - especially when it is then combined with generational poverty mindset and other poverty-inducing environmental factors. The net result of all this is that poverty is passed on from parents to children, unless a very strong outside element intervenes.
As Kiyosaki exaggeratedly put it: "If you're poor, you will always be poor"
He's right. You're right.

But please stop using the words genetic and heredity in this case. Those are biology terms and they have meaning.
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