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ednut1:
South sudan seperated, Eritea seperated, how is it going. We are not Singapore or Malaysia

THE point is not if they are doing well, the point still remains that people can go if they want to, you should not see anything wrong on it

Trollronaldo:
THE point is not if they are doing well, the point still remains that people can go if they want to, you should not see anything wrong on it

Catalonia is also trying to leave Spain but have been unable to do it. There is nothing wrong in trying to go but most times its through violence. Ambazonia too wants to leave Cameroon dem no gree.

If you dont have the power, influence, support of other world powers. You go no where. Thats life.

ednut1:
Catalonia is also trying to leave Spain but have been unable to do it. There is nothing wrong in trying to go but most times its through violence. Ambazonia too wants to leave Cameroon dem no gree.

If you dont have the power, influence, support of other world powers. You go no where. Thats life.

There is nothing wrong is what Catalonia or what anybody who wants out is doing.

That's the point, it's not a do or die affair. There's no reason to justify being threatened by someone saying that "I don't want again"

And there’s nothing wrong if their federal government don’t allow them to leave too.

There's still law in ICC and no prison for debtors, only assets can be seized, in this case the loans have capital projects attached and those are what will be seized. Or else it's slush funds. Primary residence and livable income are off limits, so Nigerians can't be held against their will. The worst that will happen is for the West and Russia to take sides and duke it out. There's no price too high for freedom. Dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery anytime.

floss:
And whose region will pay up the debt Nigeria is borrowing?… what people don’t understand is that you can’t be owing someone rent and pack out to go and live in another place, there must be an agreement before all the loans Nigeria took was granted, that might include every secession attempt be treated as treasonable offence. This is why Nnamdi Kanu is Still under DSS custody.

He would’ve been released if Nigerian govt have no written agreement with a third party( the ones controlling the nation’s economy and giving out loans to every government)
This is why it will be very difficult to release Nnamdi Kanu, it’s not in Tinubu’s power to do so. Not like he cannot release him, he can but that will cost him his government. He will likely be impeached or dealt with, systematically assassinated like how they do to other presidents that doesn’t follow simple order.

Nigeria can never divide, once we’re debt free, no body can dictate terms and conditions of governance for us anymore. This is what the west doesn’t want for a black man.

ednut1:
South sudan seperated, Eritea seperated, how is it going. We are not Singapore or Malaysia

From what you wrote, nobody knows whether separation will favour us but I am 100% certain that being together won't take us anywhere.

So why don't we separate and take the chances of succeeding?

lastkingsman:
From what you wrote, nobody knows whether separation will favour us but I am 100% certain that being together won't take us anywhere.

So why don't we separate and take the chances of succeeding?

separation is a cheap excuse for our incompetence. In yoruba land we will start Ijebu, oyo, egba, ilorin, Ekiti, igbomina tribalism.

In igbo land anambra supremacy will take precedence, ebonyi igbo will collect from the main igbo states.

Look at what is happening in south south with Ijaws in delta and now rivers state. Dey play 😂

Just like south Sudan once they got their independence the tribes there turned on each other. Sote the north ( before the current war) became safer.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/05/16/ogun-2027-why-yewa-awori-must-produce-next-governor/

https://www.nairaland.com/6789834/umahi-ebonyi-people-marginalised-igbos

ycat:
There's still law in ICC and no prison for debtors, only assets can be seized, in this case the loans have capital projects attached and those are what will be seized. Or else it's slush funds. Primary residence and livable income are off limits, so Nigerians can't be held against their will. The worst that will happen is for the West and Russia to take sides and duke it out. There's no price too high for freedom. Dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery anytime.

The question is are Nigerians willing to pay the price for their freedom?

ednut1:
separation is a cheap excuse for our incompetence. In yoruba land we will start Ijebu, oyo, egba, ilorin, Ekiti, igbomina tribalism.

In igbo land anambra supremacy will take precedence, ebonyi igbo will collect from the main igbo states.

Look at what is happening in south south with Ijaws in delta and now rivers state. Dey play 😂

Just like south Sudan once they got their independence the tribes there turned on each other. Sote the north ( before the current war) became safer.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/05/16/ogun-2027-why-yewa-awori-must-produce-next-governor/

https://www.nairaland.com/6789834/umahi-ebonyi-people-marginalised-igbos

There's no nation on earth with both religious and ethnic fault lines that's currently making progress. South Sudan is not a great example because that separation happened after the bloodiest conflict had already happened. Blood was already spilled and following and arms & ammunitions were everywhere so the infighting in South Sudan wasn't surprising. That's why I am vexed with Nnamdi Kanu and that efulefu called Ekpa because they are already arming charlatans to fight this cause. I want ohaneze Ndi Igbo to lead the struggle through a political negotiation and solution.

Dividing Nigerian will reduce these fault lines. I won't speak on how other ethnic nations will turn out but I know Igbo nation will have internal tribal squabbles but it depends on who emerges as leader to unite or further divide us.

There's a reason Nnamdi Azikiwe citied UNN in Nsukka, Enugu rather than Anambra where's he is from. I strongly believe a leader like PO/Oti/Ngozi will get it done.

Several former countries have separated and are now doing well:

1. Czechoslovakia: Split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia in 1993. Both are economically stable and EU members.


2. Yugoslavia: Split into multiple nations, including Slovenia and Croatia, which have become prosperous and stable.


3. USSR: Baltic states like Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania have thrived since independence, with robust economies and EU membership.

4. Malaysia and Singapore: Separated in 1965. Singapore has since become a global financial hub with a highly developed economy.

lastkingsman:
There's no nation on earth with both religious and ethnic fault lines that's currently making progress. South Sudan is not a great example because that separation happened after the bloodiest conflict had already happened. Blood was already spilled and following and arms & ammunitions were everywhere so the infighting in South Sudan wasn't surprising. That's why I am vexed with Nnamdi Kanu and that efulefu called Ekpa because they are already arming charlatans to fight this cause. I want ohaneze Ndi Igbo to lead the struggle through a political negotiation and solution.

Dividing Nigerian will reduce these fault lines. I won't speak on how other ethnic nations will turn out but I know Igbo nation will have internal tribal squabbles but it depends on who emerges as leader to unite or further divide us.

There's a reason Nnamdi Azikiwe citied UNN in Nsukka, Enugu rather than Anambra where's he is from. I strongly believe a leader like PO/Oti/Ngozi will get it done.

Several former countries have separated and are now doing well:

1. Czechoslovakia: Split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia in 1993. Both are economically stable and EU members.


2. Yugoslavia: Split into multiple nations, including Slovenia and Croatia, which have become prosperous and stable.


3. USSR: Baltic states like Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania have thrived since independence, with robust economies and EU membership.

4. Malaysia and Singapore: Separated in 1965. Singapore has since become a global financial hub with a highly developed economy.

All the countries listed look nothing like us, dont think like us, dont have same situation. I prefer African examples

ednut1:
All the countries listed look nothing like us, dont think like us, dont have same situation. I prefer African examples

It won't be bad if we are the first to set the example here in Africa

They have no choice, like a flood it will take out everything in its path whether we like it or not.

floss:
The question is are Nigerians willing to pay the price for their freedom?

ycat:
They have no choice, like a flood it will take out everything in its path whether we like it or not.

like football, the match might look good on paper but different on the field, your analysis looks viable but it’s left for us to see action, and we all know from recent experience after the endsars saga how insignificant the strings citizens pull when it comes to organised mass action. The only person that understood Nigerian government and her gimmicks is being held hostage through DSS, so let’s see how these things unfold before our eyes

Let's see how it all plays out.

floss:
like football, the match might look good on paper but different on the field, your analysis looks viable but it’s left for us to see action, and we all know from recent experience after the endsars saga how insignificant the strings citizens pull when it comes to organised mass action. The only person that understood Nigerian government and her gimmicks is being held hostage through DSS, so let’s see how these things unfold before our eyes

ycat:
Let's see how it all plays out.

It’s going to be interesting this coming months, the hardship already intensified in all corners of the country, hmm

NOTHING WRONG BUT THE AGITATORS MUST PROVE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THEIR PEOPLE AGREE WITH THEM.