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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Illusioneffect(m): 10:04am On Oct 14, 2024
basilico:
You think if Musk to sell X , the buying price would be 9 billion. The way the left would love to control it.
I would put it at $100 B.

Boeing has technical issues,emphasis on profits share prices, competition, govt contracts plus DEI.My guess is that they will utvdiem mostly non technical staff.
With his work and success on Neuralink and SpaceX- it's estimated Elon Musk could be a trillionaire in 2027.
In three years X won't just be a social media company - you can imagine what it could be going forward
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:08am On Oct 14, 2024
Student accusing Tim Walz of grooming him to go public.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 10:10am On Oct 14, 2024
Illusioneffect:
X's value was never 44 billion dollars👀 and you know that- people started buying Twitter stocks because Musk said he was going to buy it thereby overvaluing the stock to turn in a profit - that was why Elon Musk was sued🤷🏽‍♂️.
I can't believe people like you still doubt Elon - none of his companies have been failures. XAi is currently being implemented on X and it's valued to be worth more than openai - that'll definitely increase X's stocks. In three years - X is estimated to be profitable - something Twitter never could for more than 12 years. It's not about the stocks- it's about profitability. People said X will die out😂 now it's more important than ever.
Elon is doing things no one ever thought was possible and you're here talking about stocks of two years ago
according to you - elon is a business genius who wound up paying more than the actual value of twitter - then in less than two years knocked the value down by over 60%? is that how you generate value?

is that how business geniuses work?

have you been following the news about musk's other work of art, the cybertruck? the apocalypse proof vehicle that cannot be driven safely in a car wash and falls apart when used for actual truck stuff?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_scBKKHi7WQ

real revolutionary development right there

a host of suckers in elons cult are throwing 70k a pop to beta test an expensive lemon
he definitely is a genius though - for getting people to pay 70k plus for a vehicle not worth 30k
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 10:12am On Oct 14, 2024
Illusioneffect:
With his work and success on Neuralink and SpaceX- it's estimated Elon Musk could be a trillionaire in 2027.
In three years X won't just be a social media company - you can imagine what it could be going forward
we will be here three years from now.
all the other things X was supposed to become - how have they turned out?

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/26/23808796/elon-musks-x-everything-app-vision

it is called vaporware.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:20am On Oct 14, 2024
Budaatum.
Why would DOJ want all voters whose names were removed from the rolls back on to the registers.
It should be a case by case no o?

#eiectionstealing

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:29am On Oct 14, 2024
GloriousGbola:
we will be here three years from now.
all the other things X was supposed to become - how have they turned out?

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/26/23808796/elon-musks-x-everything-app-vision

it is called vaporware.
Musk has crazy ideas ..Starlink I thought was a crazy idea with 40000 satellites in Low Earth Orbit , but look its getting closer to $7B this year.
Vergeis is definitely a leftie media.
Musk is loathed because the Deep State cannot control it as they did before. When the deep state is out to get you, leftie media softens the public.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Illusioneffect(m): 11:53am On Oct 14, 2024
GloriousGbola:
we will be here three years from now.
all the other things X was supposed to become - how have they turned out?

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/26/23808796/elon-musks-x-everything-app-vision

it is called vaporware.
Wow and I once respected you- how can you be so close-minded😪. Elon Musk said it'll be an everything app. Did he give a timeline? He has already added Grok to X, added streaming, added video calls, created a creator economy were 80% is given to creators on X. I and my team on X have made up to $8k on X alone and we don't even post a lot. Creating an everything app takes time. Elon has achieved something in 2 years other companies can't in 12 years.
Bro, you have no significant argument just keep quiet and continue hating on him in silence just because he has a different political view than you
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Illusioneffect(m): 11:59am On Oct 14, 2024
basilico:
Musk has crazy ideas ..Starlink I thought was a crazy idea with 40000 satellites in Low Earth Orbit , but look its getting closer to $7B this year.
Vergeis is definitely a leftie media.
Musk is loathed because the Deep State cannot control it as they did before. When the deep state is out to get you, leftie media softens the public.
Everyone keeps hating while Elon Musk keeps winning. Tesla was 3 days away from bankruptcy in 2008 now they are one of the most valuable companies in the world and the only EV company that is profitable.
SpaceX is on track to be the most profitable company in 2026😪.
Why're this guys just hating- I'm ashamed for them

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:21pm On Oct 14, 2024
Illusioneffect:
Everyone keeps hating while Elon Musk keeps winning. Tesla was 3 days away from bankruptcy in 2008 now they are one of the most valuable companies in the world and the only EV company that is profitable.
SpaceXis on track to be the most profitable company in 2026😪.
Why're this guys just hating- I'm ashamed for them
If he had not bought X and was a loyal democrat donor, they would be praising him day and night.
Starlink is going places. It's a big thing Ships and airplanes will very soon have it installed. The US military too.
Premium clients.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:39pm On Oct 14, 2024
GloriousGbola:
Boeing went dei? Do you live under a rock? Boeings story has been in the news for over a year. How they merged with mcdonnel Douglas in the 90s and allowed accountants rather than engineers lead the company and how they have been chasing shareholder value and enshittifying the company.

Boeing is a warning tale of late stage capitalism and the dangers of focusing solely on quarterly reports. You right wingers are really and truly something else with your willful ignorance.
Boeing went DEI hard.
I will just post this here and won't go deep into their DEI.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:42pm On Oct 14, 2024
IjeBos:
Trump wanted a House Member to call for a special election 6 months after Biden had been sworn in so that he could be reinstated as President. shocked shocked
The more we learn the worse and nuttier it gets.
Another bs put in a book for the gullibles to buy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:48pm On Oct 14, 2024
GloriousGbola:
It is only in your right wing fever dream that Boeing's woes are being attributed to dei. Actual technical and business journals place the issues where they belong - short thinking corner cutting to please the shareholders. Making 'shareholder value' the company watchword. It makes one wonder exactly what appears in your daily feed.




Maybe you have also somehow missed all the articles about twitters current market value.

The less you cap about musk, the better.

Maybe it is dei hires that are led to a drop in value from 44 billion to under 10 billion
No it is not because boeing will be letting all their diversity hires go including some talented hires as push has come to shove.

Other companies are doing it. Now the will cut production and focus on quality.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:49pm On Oct 14, 2024
Illusioneffect:
X's value was never 44 billion dollars👀 and you know that- people started buying Twitter stocks because Musk said he was going to buy it thereby overvaluing the stock to turn in a profit - that was why Elon Musk was sued🤷🏽‍♂️.
I can't believe people like you still doubt Elon - none of his companies have been failures. XAi is currently being implemented on X and it's valued to be worth more than openai - that'll definitely increase X's stocks. In three years - X is estimated to be profitable - something Twitter never could for more than 12 years. It's not about the stocks- it's about profitability. People said X will die out😂 now it's more important than ever.
Elon is doing things no one ever thought was possible and you're here talking about stocks of two years ago
On this same thread we had several leftists jubilant and predicting that X would be bankrupt in 6months, 1yr, 2yrs max. Today no signs of that. It's actually stronger

Now what happened to all the Bluesky they claimed they were moving to?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:00pm On Oct 14, 2024
raumdeuter:
On this same thread we had several leftists jubilant and predicting that X would be bankrupt in 6months, 1yr, 2yrs max. Today no signs of that. It's actually stronger

Now what happened to all the Bluesky they claimed they were moving to?
Freedom of speech has increased engagement and traffic.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by A40(m): 1:26pm On Oct 14, 2024
https://youtube.com/shorts/7e2nu_RuF2g?si=2_q45z6N2tXb8B7Q

Hypocrite SKamala from supporting divisive BLM riots to acting brand new
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:44pm On Oct 14, 2024
This is the democrats party. Dictators
Wicked people

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:47pm On Oct 14, 2024
Dearborne Michigan. They want Netanyahu to go back to Poland.
Smug Western elites are like A two state solution is the only solution that can solve the Palestine conflict.

At the pro Hesbolla rally Death to America chants were loud and clear.

At Dearborn, Michigan Rally In Front Of Police Headquarters, Crowd Holds Placards Showing Hizbullah Leader Nasrallah’s Famous Hand Gesture And Quote From His Speech In Lebanon – Where, As The Crowd Chanted ‘Death To America,’ He Mocked And Threatened U.S. Troops In The Middle East, Saying They Will Return Home ‘Horizontally’ In Coffins

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:53pm On Oct 14, 2024
bemeruca:
This is the democrats party. Dictators
Wicked people
Kamala will go for Elon if she wins..
Force him to be neutral, but if he stops supporting Trump and gives FBI backend access to X , he will be good to go..
Although eventually the liberals will seek to ban satellite launches because they increase Carbon Dioxide.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:58pm On Oct 14, 2024
basilico:
Dearborne Michigan. They want Netanyahu to go back to Poland.
Smug Western elites are like A two state solution is the only solution that can solve the Palestine conflict.

At the pro Hesbolla rally Death to America chants were loud and clear.

At Dearborn, Michigan Rally In Front Of Police Headquarters, Crowd Holds Placards Showing Hizbullah Leader Nasrallah’s Famous Hand Gesture And Quote From His Speech In Lebanon – Where, As The Crowd Chanted ‘Death To America,’ He Mocked And Threatened U.S. Troops In The Middle East, Saying They Will Return Home ‘Horizontally’ In Coffins
Trump will take Michigan
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:22pm On Oct 14, 2024
I use nairaland to bookmark some sites .
In 2020 a whistleblower swore an affidavit about transporting hundreds of thousands of marked ballots from Michigan to Pennsylvania via USPS.
Todate the postal service has never revealed the details .



Case files ......
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63178307/della-rocca-v-united-states-postal-service/


Patrick Byrne has been trying to get the USPS to tell him who paid for the trucks that moved ballots around the country during the 2020 election. They had to match the number of ballots to the number of “votes”.

Guess who got corrupt judge Emmet Sullivan to direct where the ballots went.

Norm Eisen

No doubt one of Norm’s democracy dictator groups paid for it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:39pm On Oct 14, 2024
AmazonTopaz:
This map explains it better. That map has been disproved as propaganda because it fails to note that Jordan and Egypt once annexed lands and Lands gets annexed or taken during the victor in war time. It is frowned upon today but was the order of the day in past centuries. When Egypt and Jordan annexed parts of Palestine why didn't they give it independence? Of course not, because they never cared about Palestinian liberation.
I'm confused. You argued that a map was wrong because it didn't have in it something explaining the someone else stole land as well. And other people steal lands through war? Huh? What?
What other maps have any of this on them?
What maps of the US describe how each territory was taken, that most of it was taken from the Native Americans.
When you look at google maps is there any of this writing on those maps?
The truth is the map fails the basic eye test and you want to propagandize to make people feel better about something they can see is wrong.
If it fails the basic eye test, it's because it's wrong. End of discussion.

War, who has more power or whose benefactor has more power and better weapons is no justification to steal land.
It is similar to what happened to Africa and Nigeria.
Are you arguing you thought what happened in Nigeria is right and Power makes right?
That because I am stronger than you I can do what I want?
Think of the everyday implications of that.

I respect your opinion, but for whatever reason you're defending the indefensible here and it shows based on this argument you made.
Palestinians deserve to be treated as human beings deserving of the same rights and morality as I am.
And my Christian faith, even if they're Muslims, doesn't permit me to do otherwise.
I think this episode will be a stain on the US. And I'm so disappointed Biden has allowed a madman, who is trying to stay out of jail, Israel's Trump, to define the morals the US projects to the world. It makes us weaker and makes it more dangerous for Americans abroad.

And the truth if the US was in Israel's position, they wouldn't have fought this way. The US has an understanding that terrorists aren't born, they are created. How does Israel expect any peace for a generation with all the mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers and babies they have killed?
And maybe that is the point.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m):
PDPGuy:
I agree, aside from the DEI angle. The bad press that they’re generated over the last year or so was bound to lead to some negative consequences. But I didn’t expect them to cut 10% of the workforce in one fell swoop.

Moreover, if more airlines decide to ditch Boeing and pitch their tents with Airbus (or Embraer), more job cuts would be inevitable.
Boeing is most likely not going anywhere.
Too many entrenched interests and government contracts.
In 2023 37% of its revenue came from government contracts.

This mess is another thing Trump gave us. Regulation is there for a reason. And you don't see the need for it, until something catastrophic happens. Then it's too late. Illusioneffect, isn't this one of Trump's regulatory framework changes you said was good for the US. How is that working out?

Did Trump Executive Orders Further Weaken FAA Oversight?

There has been a shift in the approach to product certification, towards a collaborative approach that engages the manufacturer as a subject matter expert. The FAA has been tasked with finding greater efficiencies and, as a result, puts trust in manufacturers with established quality systems to make decisions on the parameters for approval for their products.
...
Bottom line, the FAA has been ordered to back off industry and is now being investigated for backing off by the same people who issued the orders. The requirement that the FAA delegate more of its oversight responsibility to industry was imposed on the FAA years ago, but it has more recently intensified with direct orders to undo the regulatory framework developed over many decades, following learnings from deadly accidents.
...
Still, the US DOT mandated that the FAA begin the process of review to reduce regulations. The FAA assigned this task to ARAC, effectively putting the question of what rules to cut and which to eliminate before creating new ones in the hands of a body that includes representatives from manufacturers and airlines.

This move may have tipped the balance, with the FAA forced to put the interests of business ahead of aviation safety. It also sent a message that the FAA’s scope of authority to ensure aviation safety was limited.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisagarcia/2019/03/18/did-trump-executive-orders-further-weaken-faa-oversight/
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:53pm On Oct 14, 2024
basilico:
I use nairaland to bookmark some sites .
In 2020 a whistleblower swore an affidavit about transporting hundreds of thousands of marked ballots from Michigan to Pennsylvania via USPS.
Todate the postal service has never revealed the details .



Case files ......
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63178307/della-rocca-v-united-states-postal-service/


Patrick Byrne has been trying to get the USPS to tell him who paid for the trucks that moved ballots around the country during the 2020 election. They had to match the number of ballots to the number of “votes”.

Guess who got corrupt judge Emmet Sullivan to direct where the ballots went.

Norm Eisen

No doubt one of Norm’s democracy dictator groups paid for it.
Can you stop using this nonsense to post your silly conspiracy theories.
You think everyone is stupid. Nairaland has one of the worst internal searches.
You couldn't possibly use it to bookmark anything as you wouldn't find it again.
If you wanted to bookmark something you'd print it into OneNote.

He's the Nutty Archivist.
No conspiracy to nutty not be archived.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:05pm On Oct 14, 2024
GloriousGbola:
according to you - elon is a business genius who wound up paying more than the actual value of twitter - then in less than two years knocked the value down by over 60%? is that how you generate value?

is that how business geniuses work?

have you been following the news about musk's other work of art, the cybertruck? the apocalypse proof vehicle that cannot be driven safely in a car wash and falls apart when used for actual truck stuff?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_scBKKHi7WQ

real revolutionary development right there

a host of suckers in elons cult are throwing 70k a pop to beta test an expensive lemon
he definitely is a genius though - for getting people to pay 70k plus for a vehicle not worth 30k
The board should have removed him from Tesla.
He's cratering demand for his product.
Maybe he thinks the grift from a Trump presidency will supplement that loss.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:08pm On Oct 14, 2024
IjeBos:
I'm confused. You argued that a map was wrong because it didn't have in it something explaining the someone else stole land as well. And other people steal lands through war? Huh? What?
What other maps have any of this on them?
What maps of the US describe how each territory was taken, that most of it was taken from the Native Americans.
When you look at google maps is there any of this writing on those maps?
The truth is the map fails the basic eye test and you want to propagandize to make people feel better about something they can see is wrong.
If it fails the basic eye test, it's because it's wrong. End of discussion.

War, who has more power or whose benefactor has more power and better weapons is no justification to steal land.
It is similar to what happened to Africa and Nigeria.
Are you arguing you thought what happened in Nigeria is right and Power makes right?
That because I am stronger than you I can do what I want?
Think of the everyday implications of that.

I respect your opinion, but for whatever reason you're defending the indefensible here and it shows based on this argument you made.
Palestinians deserve to be treated as human beings deserving of the same rights and morality as I am.
And my Christian faith, even if they're Muslims, doesn't permit me to do otherwise.
I think this episode will be a stain on the US. And I'm so disappointed Biden has allowed a madman, who is trying to stay out of jail, Israel's Trump, to define the morals the US projects to the world. It makes us weaker and makes it more dangerous for Americans abroad.

And the truth if the US was in Israel's position, they wouldn't have fought this way. The US has an understanding that terrorists aren't born, they are created. How does Israel expect any peace for a generation with all the mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers and babies they have killed?
And maybe that is the point.
Before mothers fathers and babies were killed there were no piece because the side who attacked on Oct 7th has been attacking. Other nations who were attack seek peace and they got it. You are such a dumb person with most of your arguments.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:09pm On Oct 14, 2024
raumdeuter:
On this same thread we had several leftists jubilant and predicting that X would be bankrupt in 6months, 1yr, 2yrs max. Today no signs of that. It's actually stronger

Now what happened to all the Bluesky they claimed they were moving to?
It's seems to be a prerequisite for MAGAs to believe in alternate realities.
I guess stronger can mean an 84% collapse in revenue.

You guys are so ridiculous it's comical.

Twitter's Revenue Takes a Huge Hit
Musk bought Twitter for $44 billion, but turning the company around has been a big challenge. The New York Times recently reported that X made only $114 million in revenue in the U.S. during the second quarter of 2024, according to the documents they obtained. This is a massive drop compared to $661 million in the same quarter in 2022 before Musk took over. When we account for inflation, that’s a drop of a whopping 84%.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitters-revenue-collapses-84-tesla-171535190.html

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:13pm On Oct 14, 2024
IjeBos:
The board should have removed him from Tesla.
He's cratering demand for his product.
Maybe he thinks the grift from a Trump presidency will supplement that loss.
Only In your head. When you talk from hate you cease to make sense.

The company is highly profitable, demand for the cyber truck did not disappoint, people draw their phones anytime they see one.

Microsoft, Google, etc. Has products that they later killed does not mean those companies are not doing well. Only hate will blind people but musk is the real life Tony starks. All these stupid talk from you and gloriousgbola is due to the fact he walked away from the left, nothing more, nothing less.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:18pm On Oct 14, 2024
IjeBos:
It's seems to be a prerequisite for MAGAs to believe in alternate realities.
I guess stronger can mean an 84% collapse in revenue.

You guys are so ridiculous it's comical.
Why is that? People like you who calls for the boycott of x right? But it does not matter, free speech wins. X is still strong
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:51pm On Oct 14, 2024
IjeBos:
It's seems to be a prerequisite for MAGAs to believe in alternate realities.
I guess stronger can mean an 84% collapse in revenue.

You guys are so ridiculous it's comical.
Has X gone bankrupt 3yrs after the takeover?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:04pm On Oct 14, 2024
raumdeuter:
Has X gone bankrupt 3yrs after the takeover?
This is the MO for you. Rinse Repeat

You write something you pull out your ass that is utterly nonsensical.

raumdeuter:
It's actually stronger
Someone points out how wrong and nonsensical it is.

Twitter's Revenue Takes a Huge Hit
Musk bought Twitter for $44 billion, but turning the company around has been a big challenge. The New York Times recently reported that X made only $114 million in revenue in the U.S. during the second quarter of 2024, according to the documents they obtained. This is a massive drop compared to $661 million in the same quarter in 2022 before Musk took over. When we account for inflation, that’s a drop of a whopping 84% .
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitters-revenue-collapses-84-tesla-171535190.html
You run into the phone booth to don your Captain Intellectual Dishonesty uniform, and continue to argue nonsensical things while twisting yourself in knots and repeating yourself over and over like a dementia patient until the everyone gets tired.

None of that changes the fact that ur an idiot who is always wrong because you speak out of emotion and some allegiance to your cult.
Twitter is not stronger now than it was before Elon bought it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:28pm On Oct 14, 2024
IjeBos:
Tesla Buyers Are Bailing Because of Elon Musk, the 'Worst Troll'
Tesla salespeople say "a lot" of customers canceling orders blame Musk's Twitter behavior.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/tesla-buyers-are-bailing-because-of-elon-musk-the-worst-troll/

https://www.cnet.com/tech/tesla-buyers-are-bailing-because-of-elon-musk-the-worst-troll/

Same here. Was looking at a Tesla for early 2023, but can't give my money to someone like him. Going to test drive other electric/hybrids out there. Problem for Tesla, there's some good competition.
How is your Tesla boycott going so far? Talk about taking your money elsewhere? Which money?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:40pm On Oct 14, 2024
raumdeuter:
How is your Tesla boycott going so far? Talk about taking your money elsewhere? Which money?
Bought two investment penthouses in Lagos instead with some of that money.
I'll post some pictures to further stoke that jealousy when the builder finishes and the Interior Designer starts their work.
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