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Northerners can’t survive abroad without quota system 😁

YeyeGbami:
Thank you oh. It is sad to read people saying the north can’t compete outside the country.

Comment like that just show low effort and possibly no interaction with the northern region. It's the run of the mill typical erroneous stereotype / lores from previous generation.

Sadly, the same mistake made by the past is currently happening in real time. To reconfigure the system at this pace will take a generation starting with the young ones interested in joining the civil service and other areas.

Different angles to look at this issue of southerners dumping civil service for greener pastures.
1. Government job especially in Nigeria promotes mediocrity, poor renumeration (not all but very high percentile), decrepit working conditions for most and very monotonous with little transferable skills or experience.
2. Most southerners have to make do with the 2nd class federal civil service agencies or ministries with poor pay, which will subject them to perpetual poverty unless lucky few in syndicated corruption
3. Nigeria present structure leaves a lot of your success in public service to sheer luck, nepotism, godfatherism, workplace sexual exploitation, spiritual warfare etc rather than hardwork, brilliance, skillset etc.
All this makes an honest review of life goals and taking your chances in climes where the rules in life are more balanced and fair to an extent.

PEACE2023:
Hahahahaha. But don't you think that we the southerners are the cause?
If we live within our means, we will not be under this pressure.
I try to live within my means and I am very much okay and free. I help people where my power reach but I failed to be pressured.

There's a difference between living within one's means and standard of living.

I bought #1,100 food yesterday at a local buka and almost cried with what was put on my plate.

The same amount will fetch me a big bowl of swallow if in the North.

Nobody lives within their means like I do, but there's nothing you can do if standard of living wants to strangulate you.

You either relocate or Japa, most will take the latter since it offers a better standard of living overall

PEACE2023:
You are wrong bro. My uncle gave over 2,000 southerners Job during his time because he got to the top. I am a beneficiary.
Another of his beneficiary was just appointed permanent secretary recently.
He has started giving southerners Job too.
The problem is us not the northerners.
Imagine having 30 people climb up the ladder and 7 of them are Southerners, it will still be good because 7 southerners will get Job but if among the 30 no southerner, the FG can not appoint a junior southerner when there are seniors from the north. Never.
Let me tell you.
My uncle gave people Job in many government agencies and parastatals. Some are DPOs, Controllers both in immigration and customs, some are Captains in Army, navy and Air Force. They are climbing with their set, if they remain till their pick, one of them must join the top ladder because federal character is still being used where you have personnel across the geopolitical regions.
Greed is stopping us from taking what belongs to us.

You see from your response you keep using "gave" that is the root of all the problem, therefore I will say it is cultural, while many southerners think independently they earn whatever they have, the northerners are ok with "Nakadede" why southerners want to build an empire from sweat and hard work which they know public service cannot give them, unless if they steal, the northerner is either contented or knows if he steals he will be protected.

PEACE2023:
Greed is the strong selfish desire for possessions, wealth, or power.
A desire to eat more food than is necessary.
Based on the definitions above, if you are comfortable to have all the basic life amenities such as, house, cars, Good Jobs, good family and investment etc and you abandon all these or sold your property to japa for the sake of dollars and pounds, you are greedy.

Base on what you enumerated above no one going abroad is greedy.
How many government workers earn up to 1 million naira monthly? Note,that a one million salary can't get you kids to good schools, can't buy a new car,or build a good house. A 1 million naira salary can't pay for some medical emergencies. To me, your problem is that you have very low ambition and you have gotten comfortable with suffering.
If your kid is able to attend Harvard and Oxford university, that doesn't make you greedy. Being able to afford a brand new SUV does not make you greedy.
But being a director in the civil service and embezzling funds makes one greedy.

Eroded Purchasing power of the currency
Insecurity
Poor health care
Little or no accessible roads
Inconsistent power supply

If U like earn 5 - 10m monthly but if the above issues are not tackled,japa is inevitable esp among the southerners!

Can your Uncle or u help me get a job now..cus I am in dare need of a good job. I won't japa. I be ur southern brother

A dieing horse. By the time we eventually settle for proper fiscal federation. You might be holding the cow's tail, especially in that ministry. Make hay while the sun shine.

Ringstonermask:
Southerners av high expectations. From my area, at the age of 14, young boys are already dreaming big and driving fancy cars. In the North, it not like that. Northerners are contempted with what they av. Even if it 100 Naira daily, they will not complain. They just want to eat, work and sleep. The ones that gets to NNPCL still av a fracture of that spirit embedded in their dna....


If a southerners gathers 100million Naira. He will come to Nairaland front page and ask "Which country can I relocate to and have peace of mind ?"

Bt a Northerner Will never dream like that. They would rather work and work and just be thankful for living.


Overall, even with the High numbers of Northerners in nnpcl and in govt, military, and others, their region still remains the poorest region in Nigeria. Go to South South, u will think u are in a different country entirely.


PS: i av been to almost all d states in the North.

Most of my pally now are northerners and I interact with more Northerners daily than southerners

interesting

PEACE2023:
Good morning ladies and gentlemen, this article is based on my personal experience.

I work with a High profile federal government parastatal with good remuneration.

We were 100 that was employed in 2013 drawing from South and North.
We have been promoted 3 times and expecting another promotion.

But something is disturbing me as a Southerner from South East.
About 25 persons from my set have resigned and relocated abroad. Only 2 are still in Nigeria.

It is more shocking that this 25 persons are all from the South. Either South West or South East or South South.

My fear is the implications when our set will get to the pick.
No northerner had resigned or thinking of resigning as at today.

The future implications is that they will occupy majority of the apex positions in this parastatal and the south will start shouting marginalization and why all top directors are from the north.

The last meeting I had at the NNPCL Head quarter's Abuja saw 99% of Top Management Staff from the north.

During The introduction of members I was shaking my head. This bring me to ask, could this issue I am experiencing in my own organization be the same in NNPCL?

Currently a Lady I know in NNPCL resigned and moved to Canada. You already know the future implications to the South when her set will get to the top.

Why are Southerners relocating and leaving their beautiful jobs why the northerners are comfortably enjoying the same work.

Is this greed on the south or that our problems are too much?

I taunt my friend from sokoto some days ago why he doesn't want to japa, he laughed and answered me, to do what over there?

Why are the southerners the only people who sees reasons to japa?
Knowing that we can not live past 100 yrs and we can not go anywhere with all this wealth.

Remember the higher a southerner become a director, the higher the chance of Southerners getting employment in this organizations.

If you work with a good federal government agency share your thoughts.

Are you experiencing the same in your organization?

The sad part is majority of those who "resigned" are still earning salaries in Nigeria while they live abroad.

The space they "left" should have been available for other Nigerians to fill but through greediness they keep the role while they share the salaries with their bosses, who gave them protection. Yet these set of individuals will still be blaming the FG for unemployment in Nigeria.

I knew a guy that flew in from Canada to write promotion exam in Nigeria and flew back to Canada second day.

An average Nigerian is born wicked and selfish. They complain about Govt today because they have no access to the National treasury. Give them a chance, they will ruin Nigeria as a country.

PEACE2023:
You are wrong bro. My uncle gave over 2,000 southerners Job during his time because he got to the top. I am a beneficiary.
Another of his beneficiary was just appointed permanent secretary recently.
He has started giving southerners Job too.
The problem is us not the northerners.
Imagine having 30 people climb up the ladder and 7 of them are Southerners, it will still be good because 7 southerners will get Job but if among the 30 no southerner, the FG can not appoint a junior southerner when there are seniors from the north. Never.
Let me tell you.
My uncle gave people Job in many government agencies and parastatals. Some are DPOs, Controllers both in immigration and customs, some are Captains in Army, navy and Air Force. They are climbing with their set, if they remain till their pick, one of them must join the top ladder because federal character is still being used where you have personnel across the geopolitical regions.
Greed is stopping us from taking what belongs to us.

Are you saying that the whole essence of getting federal job is not to contribute and serve the nation but it's about how to share jobs?

Can u still help with those job opportunity...I'm in dare need of a good job..

Fiscus105:
Hope you know, appointments of Directors possible?


Wen u get to the top, if by luck we have southern president, they would quickly appoint directorate cadre to filling in the existing shortfalls.

I don't know if you aware that PS appointments is on-going now, and that they microzoned the appointments to States that vacancies exist and not by strictly seniority?

Director is a career part. Highest ranking when you climb through the ladder. PS is an appointment. You must be a director before you can be appointed PS and PS are zoned. Some year's ago 80% of PS are northerners and buhari said that they are the most senior people around, would you blame him?

No be lie!
Aboki juzz many but na yoruba be the C.P.U

But I don't know the reason why YOR people have refused to work towards standing on thier own as a country

MOJ584:
The day the contraption finally comes to end, people would be surprised what the would see in the Nations that will emerge from the south within 5years due to healthy competition & strive for excellence propelled by the ability which western Education confers

Then, this Japa syndrome in the South will begin to reverse with Speed; people not desiring to leave again while those already abroad will begin to come back home to invest their wealth

Adversely, the Northern countries will struggle to progress because they love mediocrity & lack a competitive spirit. The Japa spirit will then relocate to the North & pitch it's tent in the core North & then shall the helpless citizens begin to move in droves to Neighbouing Muslim Nations, while the rich amongst them begins to move to North Africa & the Middle East

The Key to this freedom for the South is in the hands of Yorubas who unfortunately seems to be scared of having their own country despite their immense potentials to thrive in prosperity under a country of their own

Bookmark this !!!

Those people don't need loan to meet proof of fund criteria. Fantastically corrupt system is there to fall back on.

We are moving towards disintegration and these are the prayers of every reasonable southx2 persons.

Ringstonermask:
Southerners av high expectations. From my area, at the age of 14, young boys are already dreaming big and driving fancy cars. In the North, it not like that. Northerners are contempted with what they av. Even if it 100 Naira daily, they will not complain. They just want to eat, work and sleep. The ones that gets to NNPCL still av a fracture of that spirit embedded in their dna....


If a southerners gathers 100million Naira. He will come to Nairaland front page and ask "Which country can I relocate to and have peace of mind ?"

Bt a Northerner Will never dream like that. They would rather work and work and just be thankful for living.


Overall, even with the High numbers of Northerners in nnpcl and in govt, military, and others, their region still remains the poorest region in Nigeria. Go to South South, u will think u are in a different country entirely.


PS: i av been to almost all d states in the North.

Most of my pally now are northerners and I interact with more Northerners daily than southerners

How is the north different from the south in terms of poverty?

PEACE2023:
Good morning ladies and gentlemen, this article is based on my personal experience.

I work with a High profile federal government parastatal with good remuneration.

We were 100 that was employed in 2013 drawing from South and North.
We have been promoted 3 times and expecting another promotion.

But something is disturbing me as a Southerner from South East.
About 25 persons from my set have resigned and relocated abroad. Only 2 are still in Nigeria.

It is more shocking that this 25 persons are all from the South. Either South West or South East or South South.

My fear is the implications when our set will get to the pick.
No northerner had resigned or thinking of resigning as at today.

The future implications is that they will occupy majority of the apex positions in this parastatal and the south will start shouting marginalization and why all top directors are from the north.

The last meeting I had at the NNPCL Head quarter's Abuja saw 99% of Top Management Staff from the north.

During The introduction of members I was shaking my head. This bring me to ask, could this issue I am experiencing in my own organization be the same in NNPCL?

Currently a Lady I know in NNPCL resigned and moved to Canada. You already know the future implications to the South when her set will get to the top.

Why are Southerners relocating and leaving their beautiful jobs why the northerners are comfortably enjoying the same work.

Is this greed on the south or that our problems are too much?

I taunt my friend from sokoto some days ago why he doesn't want to japa, he laughed and answered me, to do what over there?

Why are the southerners the only people who sees reasons to japa?
Knowing that we can not live past 100 yrs and we can not go anywhere with all this wealth.

Remember the higher a southerner become a director, the higher the chance of Southerners getting employment in this organizations.

If you work with a good federal government agency share your thoughts.

Are you experiencing the same in your organization?

Hello good morning

ednut1:
The Northerners have their reasons-
- they cant compete when merit is used ( we can see it in the jamb scores, common entrance scores etc)
- they dont like the west, many are in middle east , sudan etc. south is more influenced by the west.
-some northerners are satisfied with bare minimum, many southerners want better for themselves and children.

You said it all. Go to Turkey and see a lot of Northerners there. They don't like the West because they see the West as anti-Islamic

PEACE2023:
Director is a career part. Highest ranking when you climb through the ladder. PS is an appointment. You must be a director before you can be appointed PS and PS are zoned. Some year's ago 80% of PS are northerners and buhari said that they are the most senior people around, would you blame him?

How is PS an appointment?

Is PS a politician or a civil servant?

eepeepook:
Try to check up on your former colleagues. They might be in better positions today. Maybe you’ll be inspired to follow their example.

Lies Oh. They were showing me a ball of fufu 2 pounds and they said that I am enjoying in Nigeria.
Some that love life so much told me that to enjoy such a life there no be beans Oh.
Now they can not come back because their position has been filled up.

GOVERNORR:
The money has no value sir..

Even if you earn 500k now in Nigeria relatives will task you to death cause they'll know you're trying for yourself

The question is are the northerners no get relatives?

docdes:
Have you ever asked yourself why the South is better developed with higher quality of life despite the North occupying top political positions? It boils down to being strategic.

The average Southerner thinks far. The world economy today requires people to think beyond local environments. The average Southerner thinks globally while the average Northerner thinks locally because he can't compete globally.

For example, even if you're earning ₦1,000,000 monthly in your Federal Government job, it's barely more than $600, which many factory workers in the US earn per week.

Then, considering security, no matter how insecure US, UK, Canada, or Australia may be, you can't compare it with Nigeria where there are ALWAYS a million ways to die. So, enjoy your federal job and leave those who are seeking greener pastures to do so.

With the 1M, you have paid for your house rent for the year depending on location, you will feed well and enjoy yourself and have your freedom, can you do this in USA with 5k dollars?

PEACE2023:
Director is a career part. Highest ranking when you climb through the ladder. PS is an appointment. You must be a director before you can be appointed PS and PS are zoned. Some year's ago 80% of PS are northerners and buhari said that they are the most senior people around, would you blame him?

......and you don't know appointments to any cadre is possible?


You are still a baby in civil & public service.

I also doubt if you ever heard a word SECONDED" in civil service.

Amigoss:
Even before the Japa waves,there are some govt agencies reserved solely for northerners,go to FAAN and NAMA HQ in Ikeja,you'd think you are in kano

If there are no southerner there, so shall it be.
Stella Odua tried her best as the minister but guess what, many have resigned and went abroad leaving the northerners. So what do you expect.

The north were already and always favored so there s no level playing field for everyone. It’s a job, they make decisions and they will leave with the consequences! To them might be the right choice considering the crazy economic situation.

Brian47:
Na them get the country na

I refused to agree with this opinion

Bro can u help with any job opportunity...I'm in need of a good job

wunmi590:


Before they made it to the position of directors, the people who resigned and went abroad, would have made it more than them, if they have their target goals...

How many Nigerian director can boast of not being corrupt? If they don't steal government money when they get to the position of director, there's noway they can be more bigger than his mate that left and went abroad...

How Nigerians in abroad are better than PS or director's here?

PEACE2023:
With the 1M, you have paid for your house rent for the year depending on location, you will feed well and enjoy yourself and have your freedom, can you do this in USA with 5k dollars?

Did you read where people are earning $600 a week?