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TheGoodJoe:
That is why I said we need clarification.

The NFF man said they offered Buses.

We need to know if the buses were going to be covered by us. If the bus charges were not going to be covered by us, then it might have been too expensive for them.

It does not make sense for the Libyans to reject cozy buses to go and higher low grade buses that had poor air conditioning.

Hotepking:
At this point the only North African team I respect is Morocco, they don't play dirty like the typical North African team and do the talking on the pitch with their team which is arguably the best in Africa right now.. Egypt to some extent are decent but they play very dirty when they want to. But you see teams like Tunisia and Libya? God forbid we ever cross path with such teams in crucial tournaments.

JohnBullMySon:
Self interrogation and RCA are actually signs of intelligence. Average people usually won’t care about the details and just go with the flow. Smart people on the other hand like details cause they like to stand on fact and altruism.

If there was a contrarian here it would be our UK brother.

I am also not happy with the Libya incident but from facts available, it seems we did something similar but less severe, making them try to retaliate.

TheGoodJoe:
Actually, from that interview, the NFF secured Uyo landing clearance after the information of their departure. He made a statement like they should have informed him of the challenges earlier.

However, after the clearance, they could not pay for the connecting flight. This is where the NFF needs to explain further why we could not assist with the flight or bus charter. Why did Libya have to pay that and ended up with a faulty bus.

Ihenzy:
Never knew you were this dull to be honest.
I blame myself though for thinking you were smart.
NFF should have paid for their flight or what?
Didn't you read they rejected NFF buses and choose to hire their own buses and that NFF still provided security for them?

TheGoodJoe:
Actually, from that interview, the NFF secured Uyo landing clearance after the information of their departure. He made a statement like they should have informed him of the challenges earlier.

However, after the clearance, they could not pay for the connecting flight. This is where the NFF needs to explain further why we could not assist with the flight or bus charter. Why did Libya have to pay that and ended up with a faulty bus.

Danielnino00:
... Why should the NFF be responsible for covering the cost of chartering a flight from PH to Uyo after the Libyans changed their travelling arrangements? You said they should have reached out to the Akwa Ibom and Rivers State government for help . Just like that? You think funds will be released to them just like that?

Anybody that follows African football will know that these kind of things are common with North African teams... They are well known for rejecting hospitality from their host countries, especially Sub-Saharan African teams..eazyjakes already gave an explanation of it...

Goke7:
Only the FG could have bailed the Libyans out in that situation just like they did for the Eagles in Libya. And if think nff can just command FG like that then na you sabi. No state govt can intervene in an aviation issue that’s the purview of the FG. No state govt can just be sending buses to go bail foreigners in another state or within their state without clearance from even the govt of that country through their embassy in Nigeria. There are security implications to that and I have worked in an organisation where to go pick up some foreigners when their vehicles broke down we had to clear from their embassy in Nigeria. I insist blaming the nff for this is an overkill

TheGoodJoe:

I repeat. The NFF needs to furnish us further with the steps they took. I am talking of Sports ministries of States due to time but now the story has even changed from 1hr to 3hrs.

So what did the NFF protocol team do to prevent such embarrassment. We are looking bad due to this.

What did steps did they take to mitigate the crisis.

Goke7:
So you should have waited more for the nff then but you’ve gone ahead to say they are lying without getting all the info you say you want.

But if you keep insisting that nff or states sports ministries or state govt should have paid for their charter services and aviation fees then you have no point there cos that’s not their responsibility.

Goke7:
So you should have waited more for the nff then but you’ve gone ahead to say they are lying without getting all the info you say you want.

But if you keep insisting that nff or states sports ministries or state govt should have paid for their charter services and aviation fees then you have no point there cos that’s not their responsibility.

TheGoodJoe:
Reach out. When there was a crisis, what did they do? The Ministries of States were options. I even pointed out, at least reception. A delegate to go to Port Harcourt airport and receive them. Ah ah, small respect. It is a National team and a pride of their country.

The Sports Commissioner or Perm sec could put together a small delegation to go there. Small courtesy now.

TheGoodJoe:
Reach out. When there was a crisis, what did they do? The Ministries of States were options. I even pointed out, at least reception. A delegate to go to Port Harcourt airport and receive them. Ah ah, small respect. It is a National team and a pride of their country.

The Sports Commissioner or Perm sec could put together a small delegation to go there. Small courtesy now.

Goke7:
Now this is funny, in just 3 hours? so your problem now is to go to airport and give them respect and no longer charter flights or buses, issorite. Nothing the nff will explain that will satisy you cos your mind is made up from what I see.

TheGoodJoe:
You can make your point without being condescending.

I said that the NFF story is not convincing. In the interview, the man said they requested for buses. Later he said they rejected buses. That does not add up.

My belief is that it was not an outright reject but they could not pay the amount required for the charter of the bus.

That is why I said this issue needs further clarification.

Danielnino00:
What if the sports commissioners and permanent secretary were occupied with something else at that time? Who should they have sent? The governor?

Goke7:
Now this is funny, in just 3 hours? so your problem now is to go to airport and give them respect and no longer charter flights or buses, issorite. Nothing the nff will explain that will satisy you cos your mind is made up from what I see.

Hanibal:
Oga you shared zero insights
Just plain annoying assumptions

You a football analyst should know better, during a football match if an opponent pull my shirt and it escaped the attention of the referee, and because of that I decided to slap the opponent in retaliation, who get case? Who is getting red carded?

And please just stop with this devil's advocate you're playing. LFF refused to foot the cost of a flight that will make their team comfortable, but it is the Nigerians that should be blamed for not running kirakita enough to save the day as spiderman/father christmas wey dem be?

They should start commanding money out of nowhere?
Call Akwaibom state government and scream Emergency! Emergency! Then money will be released in less than 3hrs, who exactly should they have called? The commissioner for finance or the state governor? At such short notice... Do you know how many months in advance it takes to plan a match and get funds released, do you how many letters get written and the approval stages involved?

Please stop throwing the word "incompetence" around... When you have no idea what you're talking about!

Reach out to Rivers state FA to put together a reception team with under 3hrs notice... Those ones nor get their lives to live, there is zero probability that most of their officials will be outside of Portharcourt at the time or even already in Uyo for the match a day before, No! they're always on standby in portharcourt waiting for the next order abi? Even the army cannot get boots on ground that fast!

Baba just die this matter Abeg... This your reasoning dey vex person

oloriooko:
Bros these points you gave cannot justify the near death experience they put our national team thru. If you say 3hrs is not small what will you call 16hrs.
The airport security could have been easily overrun by the guerilla fighters if they had besieged that airport, Libya planned to eliminate our boys or kidnap them.
Even Nigeria envoy was stopped from attending to the boys citing security protocols. Bros the best decision NFF made was to evacuate immediately
Thank God we are saying these things the matter could have been bloody and involved lives

Ihenzy:
Never knew you were this dull to be honest.
I blame myself though for thinking you were smart.
NFF should have paid for their flight or what?
Didn't you read they rejected NFF buses and choose to hire their own buses and that NFF still provided security for them?

TheGoodJoe:
The NFF man said they requested for buses. Then they are telling us they rejected buses. There are holes in his Story. The NFF protocol team must clarify this.

3hrs is enough to get buses from UYO to Port Harcourt. They won't even need the Rivers Ministry of Sport for any support with three hours. So the 1hr info. was a lie from the NFF.

TheSuperNerd:
Swedish club confirm big clubs want to sign Vince Osuji

Swedish club Kalmar FF have confirmed that several top clubs across Europe are interested in signing young defender Vince Osuji.

Kalmar sports director Jorgen Petersson confirmed the interests.

“The interest is great and I can confirm that it is about big clubs,” he told FotbollDirekt.

The majority of interested parties have already heard about the centre-back, according to FotbollDirekt.

The foreign clubs in question are said to be open to paying sums corresponding to between Two and Three Million Euros.

At the end of July, Sky Sport Italia‘s transfer expert Gianluca Di Marzio reported that the majority of foreign clubs are following Osuji.

Fotbolldirekt now reports that half a dozen foreign clubs are showing interest – and that Osuji has been scouted for some time.

Osuji, 18, has a contract with Kalmar until 2028.

Source: ScoreNigeria.

Amedino99:
this issue is quite straightforward actually. you are the one looking for loophole to pin something on the nff.

eazyjakes:
There are a number of issues to be considered here:

1) What is the standard protocol from CAF for the arrival and receiving of an away team for a game? I expect an official email to the host Federation detailing the flight itinerary at least 48hrs to the ETA with the CAF Secretariat being copied in such mail. This should be a minimum standard protocol to avoid ambiguity.

2) The North African Teams have an history of being evasive with their travel plans when they go play away games especially against Sub-Saharan African teams. This is partly due to their own sporting strategy and partly due to lack of trust that their host will be willing to genuinely take care of them without playing any mind games. Another factor is that the North Africans play these forms of mind games on their own visiting away teams and they do their best to also anticipate their opponents reciprocating these gestures. Another angle is that the Arab African world does not completely identify with sub saharan Africa for obvious reasons. For example, in November 2016, for a 2018 world cup qualifier game against Nigeria, Algeria NT came with their own water, pillows, beddings and foods.

3)Coming to the current issue on ground, The NFF officials confirmed speaking with the Libyan Representative on Monday evening to confirm their flight itinerary but was told they will let them(the NFF) know, only to inform them 3hours to the ETA that they will be landing in PH whilst the NFF claimed they had already secured a landing permit in Uyo. The NFF received them in PH, requested they go through customs and then proceed to fly to Uyo with same chatered airplane but for obvious reasons they opted for the road trip. The NFF is a govt and corporate organization and even if they had the money, it is very unlikely that the bureaucracy involved in approvals may not pass the right channels to approve in time for the NFF to incur the additional cost of the flight to Uyo from PH.

4) I have watched and followed Nigerian football for up-to three decades now and while I will never vouch for the competence of the NFF and the defunct NFA, Nigeria does not have a track record of maltreating their guests especially in the sporting world. There is another isolated case of the SA team spending some time in PH instead of landing in Uyo for a game recently. I do not have the information on this incidence and I believe the NFF can also up their game but my number one point above can help to resolve these issues.

5) The Libyans showed to the world that they are extremely vindictive and would even risk the lives of innocent footballers just to prove a cheap point for an inconsequential AFCON qualifiers that they are likely not even going to qualify for, even if they beat Nigeria. This is borderline wickedness and must be condemned by anyone who values humanity. They went too far this time. They could have lodged a formal complaint with CAF, do a little dark arts here and there and let the game go on but chose to be hostage takers for a mere football game!

Hotepking:
At this point the only North African team I respect is Morocco, they don't play dirty like the typical North African team and do the talking on the pitch with their team which is arguably the best in Africa right now.. Egypt to some extent are decent but they play very dirty when they want to. But you see teams like Tunisia and Libya? God forbid we ever cross path with such teams in crucial tournaments.

semid4lyfe:
Debating Mr Bluefonts is an extreme sports.

He probably thinks that being contrarian and going against the grain equates to intelligence

zicky:
if this was twitter I would have say maybe you are looking for engagement. So at bold kindly tell us the truth, was it 2hrs or 1hr 30mins since you're so sure it's a lie.

minfelix:
How true is this?