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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:50pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
raumdeuter:I am sure they don't believe most of the crap they say here |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:55pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
ObaIgwe1:But, I think there is even more to it than that. I don't think there is much policy Kamala can make or do to change that perspective, because that perspective isn't rational. I think the generalized feeling is partisan just like everything else these days. Fortune did a piece where they found that while 54% of people had an optimistic view of their financial situation, only 37% of people had a positive outlook of the US economy. Think about that. It's even contrary to what Raumdeuter is talking about. People aren't feeling they can't pay their bills, they are feeling other people won't be able to pay their bills. Just odd. It's the same thing that happen pre and post Trump taking office. He downed the economy and so everyone trashed it, the minute he won he said it was the best economy and people started discussing it as such. He even tried to take credit for the economy before he got into office saying it was better because people knew he was going to win. Americans’ economic pessimism contains a strange paradox: They’re feeling great about their own personal finances |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:57pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
IjeBos:70% is partisan? from the bold, i say take your meds... you are sick. Democrats control 90% of the media, trump could not down the economy during obama, and now Biden. You are a reetard. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:09pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
IjeBos:You are a complete reetard if you actually think people are complaining about other people and not themselves These are reports about the number of people struggling to pay rent/mortgage but this iddiott thinks its their neighbors they are worried for
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:24pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
raumdeuter:I've tried with you. Everything you post is some emotional tripe. There's no critical thought, just post after post trying not to be wrong, which you most likely are. This is an article from 2018 under Trump, the years you said everyone was doing better and the economy was great. Again, what is the difference? Nothing. But it proves my point you emotional child
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:32pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
IjeBos:Now 70% of families look back to those 2018 times and wish it could be back given that its worse now. You will need a little bit of education to understand that people can think $2:50 for gas in 2018 was bad until the get $4:50 in 2022 Now reflect back to those 2018 times and wish its back You cannot reason logically, those are the basic things a proper education will give but you dont have one, you are toddler intellectually |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 6:43pm On Nov 01, 2024*. Modified: 6:58pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
raumdeuter:Only Economics illiterates think ALL about economy is inflation or feeling it. And only Economics illiterates think Economy rises and fall overnight. I will leave you to your ignorance on it. I have written enough about this, but you cannot grasp it...typical of most MAGA. Thank you for calling them ILLITERATES. raumdeuter:So you are free to talk about illiterate man in Nigeria but I cannot call ignorant folks in US illiterates? Maybe Kamala, Obama Clinton who agree the economy was better under TrumpShow me where Kamala, Obama, Clinton claims the economy was better under Trump because of what Trump did. Clinton even said Democrats add 50 million jobs compare to Republican 1 million in about 50 years I think. Kamala has backed away from Bidenomics, why that? Do you think she doesn't have the data to double down on it?Show me where Kamala backed away or denied Biden economics beyond you and Trump thinking so. Or you want her to continue to run on Biden Economics so you can claim she has no idea of her own? She is chattering her own economy agenda because she is not Biden and will not be Biden 2nd Term. If that is difficult for you to understand too, then take it as you wish. All these tax cut, child support and elder support, The question they've been asking her is why didn't she do it in the 4yrs she was in the administration?I just know you will ask this...Typical MAGA question. Well they have done a lot already with massive job growth, lowest unemployment rate in decades, and inflation figures and interest rates now coming down; reason experts believe US economy is the envy of the world... But I know you disagree because you can't feel it. The work of these economic expert is to translate into the lives of people. You live in Nigeria, How many of those economic expert figures and policies have translated into a better life for you? But you must not complain since you don't have a PhD in Economics The fiscal position is also improving, with the Federal Government's fiscal deficit narrowing to 4.4% of GDP in the first half of 2024 from 6.2% in the first half of 2023, helping to mitigate debt-related risks. Foreign exchange reserves – a buffer against external shocks – have risen from $32.9 billion at the end of 2023 to more than $38.8 billion by mid-October 2024Don't get me started on Nigeria Economy , you will need to open another thread for it. 1st, I am not a fan of Tinubu, I never voted for him as a Governor or as a president. He got few things right and a lot more wrong or should I say he implemented some right things in wrong ways. That said, I am too insulated to any Nigeria government policy to be affected or complain. I don't depend on Government utilities... from electricity, to water, or government health services, I even arrange my own security... As someone who use and buy gas in and out of Nigeria, I still find the price of Nigeria gas cheaper that I sometimes wish I can carry some with me when I travel to other places. But I see many hardships around me, and I help as much as I can. As per your quote from world bank; it is 100% true and I believe in the figures, unlike you and other MAGAs, I see no reason experts will deliberately lie. But if you read it with open mind, then you will know they only talk about GDP growth and Foreign Exchange Reserve. Unlike you who think Economy is based on only one parameter, I don't. I know inflation is still going up, unemployment is still as high as ever, and the expert figures did not also talk about corruption in Nigeria. So only an Economics illiterate will ask why are people still complaining in Nigeria despite GDP growth and Foreign Exchange Reserve increase. For me, I know better. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:46pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
raumdeuter:You're not embarrassed yet? You posted an article of a stat(50% of Americans struggled to afford housing) that you said proved why people thought the economy was bad. But that same stat existed under Trump's economy which you said was so Amazing. So, which is it? It does prove my point. Feelings aren't facts. But you remind me of some older Nigerian men I know. You know those men from the older generation. Those men who feel they are incapable of being wrong. They marry people who never tell them they are wrong. Probably scared too. And so when they are wrong, which they always are, they gaslight and lie. So they have noone in their life who can speak wisdom into it. That's you. I can't imagine the type of people someone like you could have in their lives. Probably the reason you spend hours upon hours online Pax. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 6:49pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
IjeBos:You are right, Trump, his MAGA cult and the Right wing media already created all the wrong notions about the Economy, and Kamala will spend more time countering them than to propose her new way forward. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:00pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
ObaIgwe1:That is ALL that matters to the governed, That is what concerns the people regarding the economy. If you are implementing policies and data which 70% of the people think is making their life hard then you are failing as a democratically elected govt So you are free to talk about illiterate man in Nigeria but I cannot call ignorant folks in US illiterates?You saw a Question mark don't you? Read to understand!! I am asking that can an illiterate man without economic data know that times are harder now than it used to be. Do you need to be educated to know what your life used to be vs Now? Show me where Kamala, Obama, Clinton claims the economy was better under Trump because of what Trump did. Clinton even said Democrats add 50 million jobs compare to Republican 1 million in about 50 years I think.Kamala - Distanced herself from Bidenomics, she no longer used the words, As Trump has taken over the word Bidenomics to mock her economic policies Obama - Former President Barack Obama tore into claims that the economy under former President Donald Trump was good on Thursday, arguing, “Yeah, it was pretty good because it was my economy!” (That is Obama agreeing that the economy under Trump was good only that Obama claimed it was his own economy) Clinton - "I want to make three brief points," Clinton told voters at a rally for Harris in Muskegon Heights, Michigan on Wednesday. "You did pretty well when I was president, and I think I’m entitled to my opinion about who’d be better. Two, I don’t think it’s right to say that people have to vote for Donald Trump because the economy was better… I don’t believe that." (That is Clinton saying people don't have to vote Trump because the economy under him was better) Show me where Kamala backed away or denied Biden economics beyond you and Trump thinking so. Or you want her to continue to run on Biden Economics so you can claim she has no idea of her own? She is chattering her own economy agenda because she is not Biden and will not be Biden 2nd Term. If that is difficult for you to understand too, then take it as you wish.She is part of the Biden economy and nothing wrong with campaigning on continuing with the good economy, when something is good, you persist with it, you dont back away from it I just know you will ask this...Typical MAGA question.Not just me, 70% of Americans are not seeing it. Maybe this great thing was built elsewhere but 2/3rd of Americans dont Don't get me started on Nigeria Economy , you will need to open another thread for it.So you believe the Naija economy is doing great, then why didnt you tell your pet puppy Ijebos who was asking which metric showed Tinubu was doing well. Since you live in Nigeria and you agree with those world bank data that Naija is doing great on I dont live in Nigeria and I cannot argue with you if you say its good. Also if 70% of Nigerians think the economy is good/bad I will not call them illiterates |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:02pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
IjeBos:And probably turn those women into punching bags. This sounds like you are sharing a personal story. Care to expand more on it? We might be close to finding out where your issues came from |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:08pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
ObaIgwe1:No one created any wrong notion about the economy, The prople who live their daily lives within the economy dont need anyone to give them a notion Okay who is giving the notion about the Naija economy currently to Nigerians? Should we blame the Naija opposition too for creating a wrong notion about the Nigerian economy if 70% of Nigerians say the economy is bad or worse than it used to be |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 8:31pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
raumdeuter:I wanted to ignore the whole thing you wrote cos you are just twisting words and repeating the same thing and I am tired of wasting my time until I read the bold. Where did I say Nigeria economy is doing great? Even the article you posted didn't conclude that Nigeria whole economy is doing great. I told you the figures from World Bank about GDP growth and Foreign Exchange Reserve growth are 100% correct, but unlike you, World Bank and I know better that Economy is not based on only one or 2 parameters. I told you that despite those 2 positive parameters, inflation is still going up in Nigeria, unemployment is still as high as ever, and there is still corruption in Nigeria, reason why the whole economy is not great. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:36pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
ObaIgwe1:Same in US, Inflation is high, Unemployment is higher than pre pandemic levels. Reason why 70% of Americans say the economy is not great |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 8:45pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
raumdeuter:Prove this. Inflation is down now in US, Unemployment is far lower than it was at any time under Trump, Interest rate is low now. These are facts and it's the reason experts are praising US economy...the only thing is that you and many are not 'feeling it' yet. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:45pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
This seems like election interference. There is no other way to explain this
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 8:50pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
bemeruca:Tell your guy to stop saying nonesense every now and then. If it were Kamala that said that,all Hell would have been let loose So therefore,Deal with it ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:51pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
Arab Americans in Michigan stands with trump and the Republican Party.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:01pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
ObaIgwe1:Inflation is down, compared to when I hope you apologize for this wrong facts and falsehoods https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm Unemployment pre pandemic 3.6% currently in October 2024 4.1%
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:04pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
ObaIgwe1:We are now fact checking your claims to see who is using data and facts vs feelings Pre pandemic Nov 2019 1.75% Current October 2024 5% I hope you apologize for spreading fake news
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 9:17pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
raumdeuter:That's exactly who I see you as. You lie and gaslight like you can change reality and as if your life depends on it. And the worst part, you're stupid to boot. You're in the US and sound like a dude who just stepped out of some wayward village, sexist and all. Guys like you can't hide that shit for long. I feel sorry for whomever your partner is. Can't imagine what their life is like. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 9:23pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
raumdeuter:Can you point to World Bank data that "Nigeria Economy is doing great"? Honestly, you should just STFU about Economics. You post something that you are even too stupid to understand. Not sure why you purposely show off your ignorance. Just stop typing.. You'll be better off. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:25pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
IjeBos:you are feeling sorry for your mom Pretty soon you gonna say we are lying about you. but the receipts are always here. I hope your gay partner is not beating you as well IjeBos: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:26pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
IjeBos:You claim you know some old Naija man you referenced below. Tell us more about him cos these type of people tend to turn their wives into punching bags IjeBos:Complete this story and put a name to the person, You claim you know the person so its not fiction, Tell us about this disgusting pig of a man who married someone who can never tell him he is wrong and when the wife dares, he turns her into a punching bag |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:27pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
raumdeuter:he is talking about his dad |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:28pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
IjeBos:You cannot read, you cannot think, you cannot pay your own bills, you are useless to the society. You are a failure |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:30pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
bemeruca:ijebos is this true? I knew something about that story was personal to you. Do you think anyone who behaved that way and beats the shiit out of his wife should not be free in the society, he should either be in a zoo or belongs in a prison and what are the likely effects on the offsprings of such union? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:34pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
bemeruca:The impact of domestic violence on children’s psychological well being on an emotional level is significant. Children often experience anxiety, depression, and low self-esteem. They live in a state of constant fear and uncertainty, leading to feelings of helplessness and hopelessness. The long-term effects of domestic violence on children and their mental health can persist into adulthood, affecting their overall well-being and quality of life. Read the below, everything checks out That is sad. I feel bad about being so hard on him. He had no chance at a normal life given how he grew up and what he witnessed. Did you ever get psych help for what you witnessed?
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 9:42pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
raumdeuter:Inflation is going down since covid, It is now almost at pre covid level last time I checked. Biden created more jobs than your Trump, you are looking at instants but I am looking at the whole. I mentioned interest rate because since covid it has now started going down compare to many countries still battling inflation and cannot reduce interest rates. These are attributes that the economy is in the right direction as experts claimed.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:48pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
ObaIgwe1:This was what you said ObaIgwe1:Is there any data that supports this item in bold? If not will you apologize for lying to us and pushing fake data
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 9:52pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
raumdeuter:I wasn't even actually talking about my Dad. My dad is also an old school Nigerian man, who feels he is a God. Esp. when everyone calls him by his titled name. But the distinction that didn't make him a good example was my Dad was also brilliant. Uber Educated (one of his degrees is in Economics) and successful both in Nigeria and the US. He didn't fit the example of you. A stupid, uneducated person. The guys I was referring to are usually cab drivers who walk around these Nigerian events showing off with the money their wives make. Too stupid to know how little they know. Their wives usually eventually leave them with stories of abuse. I'm sure you understand those types as it most likely sounds familiar. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:54pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
IjeBos:I se what the issue is clearly, You have daddy issues, you never had a decent man to look up to as a dad, Any man who mercilessly beat the shiitt out of his wife is an animal and deserved to be in prison or in a zoo. I am sure you will agree with that. Don't you? Psychologists say children who witness physical abuse can never grow up to be normal human. I am sure you will also agree |
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