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Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Children from those 3 wives you are sending away, what will you do to them too.

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Brother, I beg to disagree. Christ didn't come to stigmatize sinners but save and restore back to the fold as they are and let his teaching be a lamp to their feet and light to their path. If he is legally married to them, he does not need to send them away, he just has more work to hold on to Christ and the faith. Where would he send them back?
To the sinful world, what would that make Christ and his message look like... Christ said
Come unto me all ye that labor and heavy laden, and He promises to give rest. Not another headache...
It's not going to be easy but I am definitely sure that Christ would ask him to scatter his home.

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Point of correction

A sinner can be a Christian but can't be a believer of word of God
A Christian can be a sinner, but a believer can't be a sinner.
The bible verse you quoted doesn't mention Christian. ....whosoever who is born of God not Christian as society claimed the followers of christ to be. Anybody can claim to be a Christian but not a believer.

MiddleDimension:
The thing with great thinkers is that they not only understand life in ways few people do, they can also beautifully articulate these insights.

Listen to Socrates.

Socrates was a great thinker becauseI he made beautiful. arguments and won his debates leaving no one being able to counter his argument.

Michel de Montaigne
He who establishes his argument by noise and command eg pleading Socrates shows that his reason is weak!

This is not a nairaland discussion. It is a matter of getting to heaven or hell. Whatever decision you take just remember You will stand before God alone. All your advisers on nairaland will not be there with you. Once you are on the judgement seat your matter is already decided. It is either you are wrong or right. Whoever advised you is inconsequential. I will advise you to close your ears to any counsel and listen to the One who would judge your case on the last day. Don't have a biased mind. Pray to God fervently with fasting and prayers for Guidance. Just as He spoke to His own in time past, He will speak to you concerning this matter. Remain blessed.

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

This is never new testament teaching and apostle Paul never taught us what you are saying.

What will happen to them?

Abraham had more than one wife and God did not call it a sin.

Solomon had more than 300 wives and concubines and He wasn't penalised

Why would you think polygamy is against Christianity.

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

You are preaching false doctrine. The Bible never said so. All you religious clowns that make Christianity look like a joke.

femi4:
He said something about God's original plan. How did you miss that. How can talking about divorce does not involve marriage? Even his disciples mentioned "not to marry' in verse10

For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate

Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

Did Jesus mention wives in his submission?

... Commits adultery because the woman is no longer in marriage and that is the adultery.

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Precedence in the bible

Imagine the bigger evill that will come from throwing those women away. I don't know how they arrived at one man one wife.

bomsilaga:
... Commits adultery because the woman is no longer in marriage and that is the adultery.

Yes. do you have any problem with that

almarthins:
From the beginning God created Adam and Eve. Adam never had 4 wives, which was what jesus was pointing the pharisees to.
Mosaic law which we found in the old testament was nt a perfect law

1 corin 7:1-16
Was expository enough.

Paul never used the plural wives, only singular wife.

Jesus was not pointing out that Adam never had more than one wife! What he was pointing out to them with that passage was it is not his will that men divorced their wives!

I am sure you had A1 in your waec in English. To do that, you must have taken all 40 marks allocated to the comprehension part! Why then are you refusing to use your comprehension skill here

Let me open passage again for you to see.
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. [b]Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

The bolded part put the nail to the coffin.
Can you tell me what you do when you use the English word ''therefore'' again?

By the word ''therefore'' it is telling you that what he is about to say, is the point of what he told you prior. and what followed was not ''a man shall not have more than one wife'', but ''WHAT GOD HAS JOINED TOGETHER, LET NO ONE PUT ASSUNDER''. #DivorceNotPolygamy

femi4:
He answered the question and also talked about God's original plan. Don't pretend like you didn't see it

Only an incompetent teacher answers what he's not asked!

Jesus was asked about divorce as the Pharisees usually tests him.

And he answered them well!

He wasn't asked about polygamy not marriage! Stop reading meaning into the texts according to what you want!

AntiChristian:
Only an incompetent teacher answers what he's not asked!

Jesus was asked about divorce as the Pharisees usually tests him.

And he answered them well!

He wasn't asked about polygamy not marriage! Stop reading meaning into the texts according to what you want!

Incompetent like MM that couldn't answer question about where he was going after he died

Image123:
From the beginning, it was not so. The Bible teaches that two become one, five don't become one. Nonetheless, you did yours in ignorance if it's a true story (which i doubt). If you separate from your wives, it's okay but you must take care of them and their children for life like you would your first wife and children. Hopefully, they can find a new life and family but they remain largely your responsibility. The pros is saving yourself from polygamy, having a good testimony, and ability to do some certain things in the body of Christ that polygamists are not allowed to.
On the other hand, if you keep them, you have not sinned. You don't go to hell for polygamy. It's not advisable but it's not a sin found in the Bible.

It is ADVICABLE

Please stop talking.

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

femi4:
Incompetent like MM that couldn't answer question about where he was going after he died

Incompetence is when you claim God has forsaken you and then say it is finished!

May it not be finished for you!

Of cos he answered! But ignorant people will always remain ignorant! Tell holy spirit to update your knowledge! Or go for an upgrade!

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

😆 🤣 😂

AntiChristian:
Incompetence is when you claim God has forsaken you and then say it is finished!

May it not be finished for you!

Of cos he answered! But ignorant people will always remain ignorant! Tell holy spirit to update your knowledge! Or go for an upgrade!

What is more finished that following a dead man and completely finished than when you are inferior to your colleagues

Daejumong:
Hi Daejumong, I am a new Christian convert with 4 wives! My pastor said I need to send three of my women away except the first wife! He said it is called restitution and it’s important for my new life in Christ!

My wives have all given their lives to Christ as well and I love them and not keen on sending any of them away.
I am a 38yr old man living in the northern part of Nigeria and I used to be a Muslim .

Sir, what should I do? Can’t I keep all of them and we all serve God together?

You have sinned before by marrying more than one wife, but its more sin when you throw all of them out.
Where in the bible was it mentioned that once you are now saved you mist throw your other wives to the street?
Its now your responsibility to take care of all three, and their children, and not to throw them out to the street .
Wisdom is profitable but ignorance is a diseases.

almarthins:
From the beginning God created Adam and Eve. Adam never had 4 wives, which was what jesus was pointing the pharisees to.
Mosaic law which we found in the old testament was nt a perfect law

1 corin 7:1-16
Was expository enough.

Paul never used the plural wives, only singular wife.

@bolded
He didn't because there was no need to. The word wife suffices as though the man is married to more than one, his relationship with all the wives is a one on one basis. This is how it is in all of the bible.

I will tag you in my other post where I explained this in detail and I implore you to take the time to read it since you wabt to grow in your faith.

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Be plain and direct in ur statements otherwise na varying meaning people go dey deduce from ur statement
Now if u saying he should send 3 of his wives away, who is he leaving them for?
Send them away to where?
For them to go start afresh again ?

You don't need to send away your wives. God has forgiven you. If you send them away, where will they go? That's another act of wickedness.

Brother, thank God for salvation. But you see God doesn't chose the number of wife you Mary. The number of wife you marry is totally your prerogative. As long as you are ok with it and the women are ok God is ok with it. Marrying more than one wife is never a sin.

You would be more confused than ever

almarthins:
From the beginning God created Adam and Eve. Adam never had 4 wives, which was what jesus was pointing the pharisees to.
Mosaic law which we found in the old testament was nt a perfect law

1 corin 7:1-16
Was expository enough.

Paul never used the plural wives, only singular wife.

By the way, I want you to notice you DID NOT do what I asked you to do which is to show me where in Romans 7 it was insinuated that a man cannot have more than one wife, and how it insinuates same. I am holding you by your OWN 'evidence' and argument.

instead of doing that, you refered me to another passage. How am I sure that if I go to that passage, I will not find out, like I have found out about the Romans 7 you refered me to, that it is irrelevant to the topic of polygamy?

Infact, let me do that now.

Ahah! As if I knew it would have nothing to do with polygamy!

Here is the entire passage you refered me to:

Questions about Marriage
7 Now, to deal with the matters you wrote about.

A man does well not to marry.[a] 2 But because there is so much immorality, every man should have his own wife, and every woman should have her own husband. 3 A man should fulfill his duty as a husband, and a woman should fulfill her duty as a wife, and each should satisfy the other's needs. 4 A wife is not the master of her own body, but her husband is; in the same way a husband is not the master of his own body, but his wife is. 5 Do not deny yourselves to each other, unless you first agree to do so for a while in order to spend your time in prayer; but then resume normal marital relations. In this way you will be kept from giving in to Satan's temptation because of your lack of self-control.

6 I tell you this not as an order, but simply as a permission. 7 Actually I would prefer that all of you were as I am; but each one has a special gift from God, one person this gift, another one that gift.

8 Now, to the unmarried and to the widows I say that it would be better for you to continue to live alone as I do. 9 But if you cannot restrain your desires, go ahead and marry—it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

10 For married people I have a command which is not my own but the Lord's: a wife must not leave her husband; 11 but if she does, she must remain single or else be reconciled to her husband; and a husband must not divorce his wife.

12 To the others I say (I, myself, not the Lord): if a Christian man has a wife who is an unbeliever and she agrees to go on living with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a Christian woman is married to a man who is an unbeliever and he agrees to go on living with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is made acceptable to God by being united to his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made acceptable to God by being united to her Christian husband. If this were not so, their children would be like pagan children; but as it is, they are acceptable to God. 15 However, if the one who is not a believer wishes to leave the Christian partner, let it be so. In such cases the Christian partner, whether husband or wife, is free to act. God has called you to live in peace. 16 How can you be sure, Christian wife, that you will not save[b] your husband? Or how can you be sure, Christian husband, that you will not save[c] your wife?

Infact, part of it can be said to be justifying to polygamy. What part, you ask?

verse 1 to 3 says:
''Now, to deal with the matters you wrote about.

A man does well not to marry.[a] 2 But because there is so much immorality, every man should have his own wife, and every woman should have her own husband.''

Seeing that in every given population including among christians, the number of women elligible for marriage is way higher than the number of men fit for marriage, it can be argued that with this passage especially from vs 2 and 3 and also, 8 and 9, Paul was arguing for polygamy. Since he does not want immorality in the church, a thing that has become rampant as a result of the false teaching of one man one wife that is prevalent in the church, Paul can be said to have encouraged polygamy with these verses.

@Righteousness2 @MaxInDHouse @SIRTee15 @StillDTruth @DTruthSpeaker

MiddleDimension:
Jesus was not pointing out that Adam never had more than one wife! What he was pointing out to them with that passage was it is not his will that men divorced their wives!

Why is I will never go to theological schools because most them interprete the scriptures upside down.
Some people come back from there and become more sinners than Saint.

Scripture interprete scripture: do you remember the story about the woman whom jesus met at the well?
What did jesus tell her?

Polyandry and polygamy was never in God's original plan for human being. If the word of christ was not absolutely communicated we would read that his apostles were husband of many wives or chronic divorcees. So I wander why you re taking so much effort to make it look like jesus left somethings out. Jesus is the perfection of the law, as a result he made everything clear in his statements.

Your Pastor ask you to send 3 away ?? Is better you take your life back ooo and those 3 women will b single mothers

MiddleDimension:
By the way, I want you to notice you DID NOT do what I asked you to do which is to show me where in Romans 7 it was insinuated that a man cannot have more than one wife, and how it insinuates same. I am holding you by your OWN 'evidence' and argument.

instead of doing that, you refered me to another passage. How am I sure that if I go to that passage, I will not find out, like I have found out about the Romans 7 you refered me to, that it is irrelevant to the topic of polygamy?

Infact, let me do that now.

Ahah! As if I knew it would have nothing to do with polygamy!

Here is the entire passage you refered me to:

Questions about Marriage
7 Now, to deal with the matters you wrote about.

A man does well not to marry.[a] 2 But because there is so much immorality, every man should have his own wife, and every woman should have her own husband. 3 A man should fulfill his duty as a husband, and a woman should fulfill her duty as a wife, and each should satisfy the other's needs. 4 A wife is not the master of her own body, but her husband is; in the same way a husband is not the master of his own body, but his wife is. 5 Do not deny yourselves to each other, unless you first agree to do so for a while in order to spend your time in prayer; but then resume normal marital relations. In this way you will be kept from giving in to Satan's temptation because of your lack of self-control.

6 I tell you this not as an order, but simply as a permission. 7 Actually I would prefer that all of you were as I am; but each one has a special gift from God, one person this gift, another one that gift.

8 Now, to the unmarried and to the widows I say that it would be better for you to continue to live alone as I do. 9 But if you cannot restrain your desires, go ahead and marry—it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

10 For married people I have a command which is not my own but the Lord's: a wife must not leave her husband; 11 but if she does, she must remain single or else be reconciled to her husband; and a husband must not divorce his wife.

12 To the others I say (I, myself, not the Lord): if a Christian man has a wife who is an unbeliever and she agrees to go on living with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a Christian woman is married to a man who is an unbeliever and he agrees to go on living with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is made acceptable to God by being united to his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made acceptable to God by being united to her Christian husband. If this were not so, their children would be like pagan children; but as it is, they are acceptable to God. 15 However, if the one who is not a believer wishes to leave the Christian partner, let it be so. In such cases the Christian partner, whether husband or wife, is free to act. God has called you to live in peace. 16 How can you be sure, Christian wife, that you will not save[b] your husband? Or how can you be sure, Christian husband, that you will not save[c] your wife?

Infact, part of it can be said to be justifying to polygamy. What part, you ask?

verse 1 to 3 says:
''Now, to deal with the matters you wrote about.

A man does well not to marry.[a] 2 But because there is so much immorality, every man should have his own wife, and every woman should have her own husband.''

Seeing that in every given population including among christians, the number of women elligible for marriage is way higher than the number of men fit for marriage, it can be argued that with this passage especially from vs 2 and 3 and also, 8 and 9, Paul was arguing for polygamy. Since he does not want immorality in the church, a thing that has become rampant as a result of the false teaching of one man one wife that is prevalent in the church, Paul can be said to have encouraged polygamy with these verses.

Roman is not the only book in the new testament. When God speaks to all he doesn't discriminate by gender.

1 Timothy 3:1-5
It is a direct message to not just Bishop but to all who follows christ. Now, I am not here to convince you to accept what the scripture says. God never make mistakes. Go back to genesis, and make example of noah. Noah never had wives nor his children, the world was repopulate by one man, one woman arrangement.

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

you should be ashamed of yourself!

You left freedom and willingly enter slavery.
Islam gives you all your rights, but you throw it away and enter slavery under the command of human being like you my pastor said.......

May Allah guide you aright.