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Jokerman:
Matthew 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

almarthins:
Roman is not the only book in the new testament. When God speaks to all he doesn't discriminate by gender.

1 Timothy 3:1-5
It is a direct message to not just Bishop but to all who follows christ. Now, I am not here to convince you to accept what the scripture says. God never make mistakes. Go back to genesis, and make example of noah. Noah never had wives nor his children, the world was repopulate by one man, one woman arrangement.

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Daejumong:
Hi Daejumong, I am a new Christian convert with 4 wives! My pastor said I need to send three of my women away except the first wife! He said it is called restitution and it’s important for my new life in Christ!

My wives have all given their lives to Christ as well and I love them and not keen on sending any of them away.
I am a 38yr old man living in the northern part of Nigeria and I used to be a Muslim .

Sir, what should I do? Can’t I keep all of them and we all serve God together?

angelboy01:
Shows you know nothing about the spiritual realm. See whether you believe me or not Heaven isn't meant for Humans. Heaven is meant for God Almighty , 24 Elders, Arch angels and other Angels. The notion you guys think when you die and go to a Heaven is a fallacy bro. You were sold the story. The true story is that earth is only meant for Humans. When you die that's the end of everything. So marrying a billion wives or whatever will only be a memory long gone in the sands of time.

Jokerman:
In Christianity, it is one man, one wife.

Nothing more,nothing less.

Settle your 3 later wives, and keep providing for them until they get new husbands if possible.

Remember, the road to life is narrow and rough, not many will find it

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

flyingdutchman:
JESUS! False doctrine! The WORD of God never said that. Marrying more than one wife is distracting as a Christian but is NOT a sin

You are not required return your wives back. You married them properly.

Why would you push your three wives into temptation of Adultery? Beware of false teachings!

MiddleDimension:
It is unfortunate you don't care about the word of God. Remember it tells you the word of God is a lamo unto your feet. Psalm 119:105

Jesus encourages you to abide in his word for then, would you be his disciple. John 8:31

So, when you ignore the truth of the scripture about polygamy, you are not being a true disciple of jesus.

now, you have moved on to yet another passage.

Here is 1 tim 3:1-13

Leaders in the Church
3 This is a true saying: If a man is eager to be a church leader, he desires an excellent work. 2 A church leader must be without fault; he must have only one wife,[a] be sober, self-controlled, and orderly; he must welcome strangers in his home; he must be able to teach; 3 he must not be a drunkard or a violent man, but gentle and peaceful; he must not love money; 4 he must be able to manage his own family well and make his children obey him with all respect. 5 For if a man does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of the church of God? 6 He must be mature in the faith, so that he will not swell up with pride and be condemned, as the Devil was. 7 He should be a man who is respected by the people outside the church, so that he will not be disgraced and fall into the Devil's trap.

Helpers in the Church
8 Church helpers must also have a good character and be sincere; they must not drink too much wine or be greedy for money; 9 they should hold to the revealed truth of the faith with a clear conscience. 10 They should be tested first, and then, if they pass the test, they are to serve. 11 Their wives[b] also must be of good character and must not gossip; they must be sober and honest in everything. 12 A church helper must have only one wife,[c] and be able to manage his children and family well. 13 Those helpers who do their work well win for themselves a good standing and are able to speak boldly about their faith in Christ Jesus.

First of all, there is no where here it is telling you that this is for everyone. So, you got it wrong on that one.

Secondly, a careful consideration of this passage will tell you that Paul never spoke of having only one wife as being mirally superior to having more than one.

His tone does not indicate any prejudice or contempt towards polygamy or that it is not of God. His position here is merely a prescription for those who aspire to take up responsibility in the Church.

There are ample evidence in the letters of Paul in the bible that show that he could have gone all the way to prescribe that all church leaders must be celebate like the catholic priests are. If he had said that, does it mean he has overt or covert pejudice or contempt against monogamy? Absolutely, not!

Clearly, Paul's concern here is the work load. Did you not hear what he said further down the passage?

''If a man cannot take care of his own family, how can he take care of the house of god.'' vs 5.

Paul cares about the home front and he feels if a man has more than one wife, that will be unfair to his family as his time will be shared.

How do I know this?

Let me show you.

1cor 7: 26&28
26 Considering the present distress, I think it is better for a man to stay as he is.

Like I told you: Paul, if he had his way, would not have said a bishop should have only one wife; he would have said ''don't marry at all''.

He continued:

28 ''But if you do marry, you haven't committed a sin; and if an unmarried woman marries, she hasn't committed a sin. But I would rather spare you the everyday troubles that married people will have.''

The bolded, confirms that the reason Paul said that to Timothy, is because he feels married life is full of so much stress and won't be easy combining that with the work of the lord ''Opus Dei''.

He elaborated further in vs 32 to 34. He says:

32 I would like you to be free from worry. An unmarried man concerns himself with the Lord's work, because he is trying to please the Lord. 33 But a married man concerns himself with worldly matters, because he wants to please his wife; 34 and so he is pulled in two directions.

Like I told you. The reason he came up with the prescription is because he knows the combining the work in church and those at home, would mean you being pulled in opposite directions and in the end, there may be issues resulting either at the home front, or the church front! We saw this with Oyakhilome and his wife, Anita. He wants to be completely dedicated to the things of God, but his wife wants to have him around more often than he was willing to be around. The result, divorce!

It continued:

An unmarried woman or a virgin concerns herself with the Lord's work, because she wants to be dedicated both in body and spirit; but a married woman concerns herself with worldly matters, because she wants to please her husband.

So, that's why he came up with that prescription that a bishop or a deacon should be husband of one wife only. He did not say that to tell you God is against polygamy or that everyone should not have more than a wife.

Even though he said what he said to Timothy, I still affirm that Paul would not waste anytime to ordain the husband of more than one wife, a bishop!

How do I know this?

Well, the Paul you, almarthins know and can be seen from his letters, do you think that Paul woulf waste any time in ordaining a man with more than one wife, a bishop, especially when he can see that the man is managing his home properly and is an examplary christian in other areas? This is the same Paul who is so fanatical about the work of god, he said: may I be all things to all men so as to win them over! 1 cor 9:19-23.

He said: of all the apostles, I work the hardest! 1cor 15:9-12.

This Paul will not hesitate to ordain anyone with more than one wife, to become a bishop.

@Righteousness2 @StillDTruth @DTruthSpeaker @SIRTee15 @MaxInDHouse

femi4:
What is more finished that following a dead man and completely finished than when you are inferior to your colleagues

sparko1:
Very poor interpretation.

Firstly, where you quoted isn't correct, the story there is about Tamar, Absalon sister.

Secondly, considered David always obey God, he never took any of those you mentioned as wives because God already said, YOU MUST NOT TAKE A WIFE ANY OF THOSE YOU MEET IN THE LAND, God doesn't contradict himself.

Finally, David took wives according to his own will, look at Ist Samuel 25 vs. 38 to 42.

And don't forget, 1 King 11 vs 4

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Daejumong:
Hi Daejumong, I am a new Christian convert with 4 wives! My pastor said I need to send three of my women away except the first wife! He said it is called restitution and it’s important for my new life in Christ!

My wives have all given their lives to Christ as well and I love them and not keen on sending any of them away.
I am a 38yr old man living in the northern part of Nigeria and I used to be a Muslim .

Sir, what should I do? Can’t I keep all of them and we all serve God together?

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Palm24:
Congratulations to you and all your wives for the decisions you have taken to accept Jesus as Lord and saviour. That is the best decision ever. I will encourage you to read and study your bible as the word of God is the final authority in a believers life. Holy Spirit will guide you through Scriptures. However below is my counsel:

In Christianity, polygamy is generally discouraged based on New Testament teachings. However, if someone is already in a polygamous marriage before converting, there is some biblical support for allowing them to maintain their family responsibilities while not serving in church leadership roles.

Here are some relevant scriptures:

• Deuteronomy 17:17: "He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray."

Although from the Old Testament, this verse was directed specifically at Israel’s kings to prevent them from having many wives, it reflects a broader caution in Scripture against the practice, mainly for leaders or those in positions of authority.

• 1 Timothy 3:2, 12: "A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach..." and later, "Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well."

• This passage specifies that church leaders, like bishops and deacons, should be "the husband of one wife." It sets a standard for leaders but doesn’t address non-leaders explicitly, so it has often been interpreted as applying to church leadership roles rather than all Christians.

• 1 Corinthians 7:20: "Each one should remain in the situation which he was in when God called him."

• Paul here advises believers to remain in their current marital or social situation when they convert. If a man already has multiple wives, some interpret this as suggesting he can fulfill his duties to his family without necessarily aspiring to church leadership roles.



• 1 Timothy 5:8: "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."

• This emphasizes the duty of providing for one’s family, which could be applied to maintaining responsibility for one’s wives and children even after converting.

The common Christian view is that while polygamy is not encouraged, a new believer in an existing polygamous marriage is typically advised to fulfill his responsibilities to his family rather than to dissolve those relationships. However, he would be encouraged to avoid roles like elder or deacon, as these are generally reserved for men with a single spouse to align with the church’s standards.
If you need further clarification kindly dm me

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Righteousness2:
True Repentance means turning away from your evil deeds.
Repentance means making right your wrongs.

Read The Conversion story of the tax collector in Luke 19 Zaccheus .

You cant remain with the sin and claim you are saved. You are deceiving yourself.

A Sinner is not a Christian. 1 john 3:8
A Christian is not a Sinner 1 John 3:9

True repentance of a man with more than one woman will entail him settling all his sin partners , sending them back to their parents and making peace with his 1st legally married Wife.
This is true Repentance.

Any other thing is you Deceiving yourself.

Captain4Jehovah:
I was born on earth to learn! You could start educating me from scratch the elementary knowledge about spiritual realm. I would gladly welcome it!

Angelboy01, this present age, generation, world and earth was SPECIALLY CREATED FOR MAN as you claimed. No other planets of the universe have THE CAPABILITY OF SUSTAINING LIFE no matter what. The earth ALONE has THE RESOURCES,ABUNDANTLY TO SUPPORT LIFE. God Himself says:

For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Isaiah 45 : 18

You should ask your self where do man's soul go when the physical body dies? Or where are the departed ones in your family? Are they gone FOREVER? Has EVERYTHING ENDED THE MOMENT THEY DIED. NO! A common way of example of spiritual realm, death and heaven is dream. Where do you find yourself when you are dreaming? On the physical earth or a spiritual plane unexplainable? Of course not the physical earth though the body is still lies unconscious while it remains active.

Two, when an accident occurs and it happens in such a way it affects a particular organ which can cause a separation of the soul from the body, the soul leaves the body in the twinkling of an eye. Then it begins to wander.

Third, you could have heard about NDE, Near Death Experience! The soul leaves the body whether during a surgical operation or accident that does not result to death.

Lastly, you have heard about ghosts(wind, air, spirit). Where are they after wandering the earth for some time? They are of course in the abode of the dead, the heaven of the dead whether they did well or bad while on earth(Orun awon oku). Hell for bad people and paradise for good people. But mind you, THERE IS NO JUDGMENT YET! ALL THOSE IN HELL RIGHT NOW ARE STILL THERE PRELIMINARILY. Their lasting place of rest is THE LAKE OF FIRE. The same goes for those WHO DO GOOD, paradise. Remember Jesus' word to the thief:

" Today you will be with me in paradise." LUKE 23:42-43

And they are still resting!

As you said, THOSE WHO DID GOOD from the time of creation till when this present age would be no more would be giving the grace to inhabit this earth as the OWNER, YHWH PLANNED IT FROM THE BEGINNING. The SELECTION AND JUDGMENT belongs to God! READ MATTHEW 25:34

So, my brother there is heaven, paradise is real. Hell and lake of fire are real!

Daejumong:
Hi Daejumong, I am a new Christian convert with 4 wives! My pastor said I need to send three of my women away except the first wife! He said it is called restitution and it’s important for my new life in Christ!

My wives have all given their lives to Christ as well and I love them and not keen on sending any of them away.
I am a 38yr old man living in the northern part of Nigeria and I used to be a Muslim .

Sir, what should I do? Can’t I keep all of them and we all serve God together?

chris51:
You are free to keep all your wives. Traditionally, you can marry more than a wife and it will not stop you from being a Christian

MiddleDimension:
I have made adjustments to the reference. I am sure you know where I was refering to.

The word translated ''bossom'' there, literally mean ''lap'' and in that context, means wives.

Daejumong:
Hi Daejumong, I am a new Christian convert with 4 wives! My pastor said I need to send three of my women away except the first wife! He said it is called restitution and it’s important for my new life in Christ!

My wives have all given their lives to Christ as well and I love them and not keen on sending any of them away.
I am a 38yr old man living in the northern part of Nigeria and I used to be a Muslim .

Sir, what should I do? Can’t I keep all of them and we all serve God together?

johnstin:
GOD bless you abundantly for this. I wanted to say exactly the same thing.

Only the first marriage is valid before Christ.
The other marriages are effectively invalid and must be dissolved if the man wants to make heaven.
All the people delightfully wallowing in ignorance should better repent or have themselves to blame after the rapture or after death- when it will be too late.

lereinter:
I'm sure you are not a Christian, maybe a "chrislam"

Unfortunately if you are,

What does the Bible say about adultery?

Definitely you're not a Christian