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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:51am On Nov 09, 2024 |
He presents dangerous ideas in a way that dumbo folks like you accept at face value without any thoughts as to the effects on the masses. His social security tax plan will cut the source of funds for the program itself. The same with his stupid proposed tariffs. If I tell you he plans to increase costs on consumer goods, you’ll call me a liar but that’s exactly what his tariff policy will do. Companies are already preparing to hike prices in readiness for the tariff hike. He truly did say he loves the uneducated and you guys are here proving him right. He never listens to experts in the field and his followers follow suit in such foolishness. All the below information is from Forbes, market watch, financial times and the likes. I don’t post links often to prevent spambot attack but you can literally look it up yourself. I won’t hold my breathe though. I know it won’t fit your narrative so you won’t look into it. More than 72 million Americans rely on Social Security, and some of Trump's other calls to get rid of taxes could inadvertently cause a larger financial gap when it comes to benefits for seniors, experts say. Trump’s platform would drain critical tax revenue from Social Security’s trust funds, leading them to run out of money by 2031 – three years earlier than currently projected, according to a new analysis from the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a nonpartisan government watchdog. That would force a roughly 30% cut in benefits unless Congress acts. LordAdam16:
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:53am On Nov 09, 2024 |
FarmlandInc:That's a tight rope. Musk being in govt means His companies will get more business, not that they are not effective but because of his position where he can eliminate departments and funding for projects that he has an interest in. For example , Trump don't believe in climate change, the bulk of Elon's wealth is from Tesla of which the liberal climate change agendas magnified by John Kerry , Al Gore etc require EV manufacturers get huge subsidies. Ditto solar energy of which he has an interest. Another area would be rare earth metals, basic building blocks for batteries. America doesn't mine because of the environmental waste produced and problematic disposal. It turns to China which don't give a hoot about the environment. America would also be concerned about cobalt mining in DRC using child labor. ******I do believe if Trump hired me, I'd be able to negotiate that tight corner . I'm qualified for that because I'm educated upto college level.That would require I get a visa to America too , which would force Ijebos to relocate in protest.**** |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:56am On Nov 09, 2024 |
basilico:You stopped reading at the part where your comprehension stopped. Nothing surprising there. Not only will the tax cut cause a collapse of the program in years sooner than expected, he’s planning to deport illegal immigrants who paid 96 billion dollars in taxes this past year. Another huge soruce of funds for these programs and don’t even benefit from it. I’ve talked enough. Let’s see what happens
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 11:57am On Nov 09, 2024 |
PDPGUY - time to rename the thread. it is what it is. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 11:59am On Nov 09, 2024 |
basilico:Ohh I get.. So when Trump was in power,the FBI were able to "rig" for Biden but now that he isn't in power and Biden is in power,they could not rig. You see your argument and others do not make any sense at all. ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordAdam16: 12:23pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
cococandy:This was your comment. "Trump said he’s cutting social security benefits for old people." When did Trump say this? Stop muddying the conversation with hypotheticals when you made claims in absolutist terms. Virtually all you typed as a riposte fit in the "coulda, woulda, shoulda" bucket. You pick a policy, concoct the most devious potential demerit possible in your head, then establish that as a statement of fact. Somehow Democrat policies never have drawbacks. Only Republican policies do. Republican policies also do have any merits. Only democrat policies do. You literally said "Democrat policies do not hurt republicans". You said that with a straight face. Two illegals who entered the US this year raped and killed 12-year old Jocelyn Nungaray in Texas. Does the rape and murder of a minor count? -Lord |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 12:28pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
Kukutente23:You already know I agree on that point. Kamala blatantly lied that she worked at McDonald's.How so? A 60 year old is to produce documentation of a brief stint part-time high-school job as a teen? Seriously? What about her sudden switch to black? Dude. Don't let Democrats deceive youWhat does this even mean? How does a person with a Jamaican black father "switch" to black? She is mixed race, period, you know very well that anyone who sees her without knowing her parentage will consider her black. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 12:33pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
cococandy:So what facts do you have that Trump is fascist and Hitler? Share it. I'm waiting. Who started the whole fascist thing? She did. The media helped her to blow it which led to folks like DeepSight believing it. The same Kamala and her boss got their DOJ to open federal investigation against Trump 3 days after he declared for presidency and allowed the investigation to continue even after the supreme Court gave a broad view of what presidential immunity covers. But they are not fascists according to you. The folks who literally forced people to get vaccinated and got people sacked and restricted in their movements are not fascists. It is Trump that's fascist. Someone whom 90% of her staff resigned is not dictatorial. It is Trump that is dictatorial abi How does a child arrive at a point where there's confusion about their gender in the first place? I doubt you're a parent. You mean any time your child hides stuff from you, it's because you're a bad parent? Really? Stop telling lies. No laws banned teachers from discussing issues with parents until the California law came up. You can bring up the law as a health worker that allows teacher to hide a child's use of contraceptives for example from the parents. Who wants to rape minors? You guys never get tired of lies |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 12:37pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
DeepSight:Dude. She lied. Even the Dems know she lied. She never worked at McDonald's. To the part of her being black. No one is disputing that. The point being raised is why she's bringing that up now that she's on the ticket for presidency. As a matter of fact, she started bringing that up when she got the vice presidential ticket. Why? Why? Why? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:40pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
cococandy:Specifically you lied about cutting aid for the elderly. That's a blatant lie and you should apologize. As for as Trump is concerned anything he does is bad,, the now disgraced and shamed media will always find fault.I think he has competent advisors who will tell him what's unworkable. I'll give you an example. Net neutrality which was supposed to kill the internet..Led to increased bandwidth, wider coverage and lower internet charges. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:44pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
cococandy:I'm no economist but I know that increasing tariffs leads to manufacturing moving home. There is of course a window before everything levels off. My understanding of the liberal economy is an increase in social spending leading to more debt . Liberals will increase spending under the guise of being humane but in reality they are creating a block of dependents on govt largese. The illegal immigrants paid $96B . How much was spent on them in the first case. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 12:45pm On Nov 09, 2024*. Modified: 1:00pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
Kukutente23:The other day you built a strawman for me and began to attack it, by saying that anyone claimed Trump was going to kill people on the scale Hitler did. I have not come across even one person who has alleged that. However that he has expressed admiration for facist ideas and methods and Hitler himself is absolutely beyond cavil. The media helped her to blow it which led to folks like DeepSight believing it.This insistence that the beliefs of your co-discussant are nothing but media-influenced is mildly irritating because you are simply saying that your co-discussant lacks independent thinking capacities. It is a snide way of insulting your co-discussant. I have pointed out to you that anyone could easily say the same of you or any Trumpist as well. It is a cheap, easy and lame angle to hold on to once confronted with a different view. To be clear, I draw my views of Trump from his indisputable deeds and actions and not any propaganda. And his personal history discloses him as a shallow low life racist skunk and con artist. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:47pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
DeepSight:He was there for 4 years. How many did he kill? Have you read his plan on how he intends to dismantle the swamp? It was released last year. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 12:49pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
Kukutente23:Just declaring a thing doesnt make it true. You have no evidence of this and yet you accuse others of being influenced solely by media. To the part of her being black. No one is disputing that. The point being raised is why she's bringing that up now that she's on the ticket for presidency. As a matter of fact, she started bringing that up when she got the vice presidential ticket. Why? Why? Why?Its ridiculous to claim that she suddenly became black or that she suddenly brought it up at any point. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:50pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
TrustNone:I saw somewhere that it was Morrocan and Turkish gangs responsible. The haifa supporters had been warned not to use taxis because they were coordinating with the gangs. https://www.thefp.com/p/pogrom-amsterdam-antisemitism |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 12:51pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
basilico:I have not (so far) accused the man of being a killer. I do know for a fact however, that he is a racist, rapist, sexual deviant and harraser, con artist, fraudster, pathological liar and low life skunk and I dont believe that any serious person can deny any of the above - even if they like him regardless. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:53pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
DeepSight:Dude Trump confirmed from. McDonald's that they have no record of her ever working. Come to think of it, if she had It would have been all over the media. The media never proved she ever worked there. The media has been looking for anything negative to pin on Trump, this would have been their ultimate proof of Trump being a liar |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 12:58pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
basilico:Trump has told tens of thousands of proven lies and anyone who denies that is either ignorant of those lies or brainwashed. As to MacDonald's if you believe they have records of all teenagers who took brief stints with them in high school as part-time gigs half a century ago, you must be nuts. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:00pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
cococandy:Tim Walz Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz speaks in St. Paul, Minnesota, U.S. April 20, 2021 after the verdicts in the trial of Derek Chauvi... By — Steve Karnowski, Associated Press Minnesota governor signs executive order protecting rights to gender affirming care Politics Mar 8, 2023 5:49 PM EST ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — Gov. Tim Walz signed an executive order Wednesday protecting the rights of LGBTQ people from Minnesota and other states to receive gender affirming health care, as he slammed the tide of other states rolling back transgender rights. “We want every Minnesotan to grow up feeling safe, valued, protected, celebrated, and free to exist as their authentic versions of themselves,” Walz said. “Protecting and supporting access to gender affirming health care is essential to being a welcoming and supportive state. Walz’s executive order parallels legislation awaiting a floor vote in the state House to make Minnesota a “trans refuge state” by protecting trans people, families and care providers from a range of legal repercussions for traveling to Minnesota for gender affirming care, which includes a wide range of social and medical interventio A kid in a state where gender surgery is banned is welcome in Tim Walz state. How are your thoughts on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G41-tXRMK20?si=AoXLsRFlQgqOPmfx |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:08pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
happney65:Nonsense. They were part of the plot to rig so they half heatedly pretended to investigate. Why they were unable to pull this one off. Too big to rig. Lara Trump at the helm of RNC had hawk eyed teams all over the usual suspects. Why is Maricopa still counting Senate votes as of now While other states are done . Less than 800K votes. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 1:21pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
DeepSight:She claimed she worked at McDonald's who don't have any record of her working there. She has no pics or referrals like her supervisor to point to that she worked there. It's US we're talking of here not balablu's Nigeria where one can claim anything and get away with it. Its ridiculous to claim that she suddenly became black or that she suddenly brought it up at any point.Ok then. I concede that. But you should at least accept that even her VP nomination was a DEI choice and not any political merit. Why do demonrats enjoy playing up to racial sentiment |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Laurene: 1:27pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
raumdeuter:Atlas Intel would be the GOAT if that happens |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Laurene: 1:29pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
bemeruca:I'd love her to win... It'd be the biggest FU ever to her haters that taunted her since 2022. If she doesn't make it, Trump should give her a role in his administration |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 1:34pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
basilico:They could rig under Trump,but they could not rig under Biden? See how shallow thinking you are my guy basi. ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Laurene: 1:41pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
Ibime:You wouldn't recite these if Trump had lost. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 1:43pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWcQSTMz2BA?si=woWoXDtvF0I0td1e This is so crazy. I watch American senate hearing but this, this makes me cringe. Gives me daylight nightmare |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 1:47pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
Kukutente23:Such high-school brief stint jobs are not likely to be matters of any record anywhere, espcially half a century later. Ok then. I concede that. But you should at least accept that even her VP nomination was a DEI choice and not any political merit. Why do demonrats enjoy playing up to racial sentimentThis is half and half. While it is true that Biden had said he wanted someone black and female, she was personally eminently qualified and superbly positioned. There are millions of black females in the states. Why she? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 1:50pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
Ibime:How I wish this will be true of Nigeria in 2027. But Nigeria is such an abnormal place. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:57pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
Ibime:There was inflation yes. The reasons govts are being changed is mostly to do with liberals going overboard. They want to control freedom of speech, importing immigrants from every shithole on earth and pampering them with freebies. Europeans are not stupid to know that most terror attacks and grooming gangs are from the imports. At the same time the EU is hankering on taking away the freedom of countries. Holding the EU laws superior to national laws..Meddling in elections to get pro globalists in power.. Demonizing the conservatives by making the term far right as something nefarious while we know the far left is worse. Trump is not a globalist , he is a nationalist and selfish for being one. Going after the rivals to globalisation like Marie Le Penn. Tommi Robinson supporters know why they want him silenced |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:59pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
cococandy:your whole life and worldview are based on nonsense articles and opinions from the pool, and you select the negative ones. You have the sky is falling mentality and should not be taken seriously. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:04pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
DeepSight:Her story does not make sense. She could not say the location, and no one ever recognized or knew when she was doing that work. she never worked there but trump did ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 2:33pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
DeepSight:Not true. Most McDonald's keep records of staff even adhoc staff. How was she paid if she had no records. Secondly, at least she'll know the name of her co-staff and supervisor who should be able to come out and say she worked with them in a deep blue area. No one has been able to point to any former co-worker. It's just like the Tinubu attended GCI or St Paul's story. This is half and half. While it is true that Biden had said he wanted someone black and female, she was personally eminently qualified and superbly positioned. There are millions of black females in the states. Why she?Qualified? Maybe. Positioned? Nah. Biden was running on cooling down the US political temp then and a far left Dem is his best choice for VP? Even you know that's not a good proposition. What worked for her is gender and skin colour. Nothing else. Not ideology surely |
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