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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:39pm On Nov 09, 2024
happney65:
They could rig under Trump,but they could not rig under Biden? See how shallow thinking you are my guy basi. grin grin
That spike of 2020 was ballot drops.
They shut down counting at night with Trump leading by a huge margin then there was a ballot drop in the ungodly hours.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:48pm On Nov 09, 2024
bemeruca:
Her story does not make sense. She could not say the location, and no one ever recognized or knew when she was doing that work. she never worked there but trump did grin
Strange how women opposed to Trump don't remember dates , places and acquaintances.
She ain't the first to not explain .
Believe all women.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 2:50pm On Nov 09, 2024
basilico:
There was inflation yes. The reasons govts are being changed is mostly to do with liberals going overboard. They want to control freedom of speech, importing immigrants from every shithole on earth and pampering them with freebies.
Europeans are not stupid to know that most terror attacks and grooming gangs are from the imports.
At the same time the EU is hankering on taking away the freedom of countries. Holding the EU laws superior to national laws..Meddling in elections to get pro globalists in power.. Demonizing the conservatives by making the term far right as something nefarious while we know the far left is worse.
Trump is not a globalist , he is a nationalist and selfish for being one.
Going after the rivals to globalisation like Marie Le Penn.
Tommi Robinson supporters know why they want him silenced
Nope. Like Bill Clinton will say, it's the economy stupid

Labour whitewashing Conservatives in UK counters everything you just typed

All people care about is their pocket not all this yada yada yada. Economy is enough to move the 10% of voters needed to win an election

2008 recession was enough to move America from Conservative to Democrat. In a mirror move, UK moved from Labour to Conservative at the same time. 2024 the same thing happens in opposite direction in both countries. It's not about ideology or any nonsense, economic turmoil always changes voter choice
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:56pm On Nov 09, 2024
Can any liberal tell us why they oppose Florida law HB 1557 Parental right in education law that Liberals called "Don't say Gay" law

A law that basically says schools cannot discuss sexuality with a child under 9yrs without parental consent. Why will anyone without a sinister grooming agenda be against the law

Parental Rights in Education; Requires district school boards to adopt procedures that comport with certain provisions of law for notifying student's parent of specified information; requires such procedures to reinforce fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding upbringing & control of their children; prohibits school district from adopting procedures or student support forms that prohibit school district personnel from notifying parent about specified information or that encourage student to withhold from parent such information; prohibits school district personnel from discouraging or prohibiting parental notification & involvement in critical decisions affecting student's mental, emotional, or physical well-being; prohibits classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in certain grade levels; requires school districts to notify parents of healthcare services; authorizes parent to bring action against school district to obtain declaratory judgment; provides for additional award of injunctive relief, damages, & reasonable attorney fees & court costs to certain parents.

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 2:56pm On Nov 09, 2024
ijebosb:
We had a convo about it.
She just thought because she's used to men bending to her will, I would as well.
For a liberal-leaning person (I assume, from your posts), I am surprised you made this about gender.

Used to getting her way with men or they bending to her will as how? Like she's not genuinely in want of help? Or actually needed your tutoring, inspite of the fact that you're a man?


Torh.


Don't vex o. I'm a recovering ultra-wokist. I just haven't completely discarded the penchant to be sensitive to "micro-utterances" like that that seemingly set women as "minxs" and such.

I was honestly taken aback by that bit but if it possible that any other context other than that insinuation of "manipulation" exists, no problem.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:57pm On Nov 09, 2024
Ibime:
Nope. Like Bill Clinton will say, it's the economy stupid

Labour whitewashing Conservatives in UK counters everything you just typed

All people care about is their pocket not all this yada yada yada. Economy is enough to move the 10% of voters needed to win an election

2008 recession was enough to move America from Conservative to Democrat. In a mirror move, UK moved from Labour to Conservative at the same time. 2024 the same thing happens in opposite direction in both countries. It's not about ideology or any nonsense, economic turmoil always changes voter choice
Liberals here denied there was any economic concerns its just that people were not educated enough to know about their personal economy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:03pm On Nov 09, 2024
raumdeuter:
Liberals here denied there was any economic concerns its just that people were not educated enough to know about their personal economy
ijebos was saying people have a hard time budgeting grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 3:04pm On Nov 09, 2024
raumdeuter:
Liberals here denied there was any economic concerns its just that people were not educated enough to know about their personal economy
The 10% of people who switch vote are usually lower educated ones who think their pocket situation is linked to the Presidents choices rather than MacroEconomic swings. It's just for the opposition to hammer the argument and take advantage of the low IQ in society and take that 10% of the vote. Same way Obama convinced voters George Bush was responsible for lax regulation leading to subprime mortgage crash and it's time for change. Infact George Bush era was characterised by the Sarbanes Oxley act which is one of the most important pieces of regulation on financial Governance. Supporters of both sides will amplify their sides argument, and in the end those who switch vote are usually the lower educated.

You will remember Pride of Lincoln attacking me for stating inflation is coming in early 2021. All economists knew it's inevitable and Republicans started laying down their argument to pin it on Biden right from Jan 2021.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:09pm On Nov 09, 2024
Kukutente23:
You did not answer the question whether there's a California law that prohibits teachers from telling parents about their kids gender choices.
I think you don't quite understand what you are saying.

Do you not think you have not been responsible as a parent if your child leaves your house and goes and tells a teacher its gender choices that it can not tell you?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 3:09pm On Nov 09, 2024
bemeruca:
this is not in your original post.
liar liar
The pre-judgment is even crazy to me.


Like, did he try to engage her further? And SHE CONTINUED to maintain her Pro-Trump stance, after all the "conspiracist theories," and "fascist propaganda" she has likely been exposed to?


If he was cool with hanging out with a religious person (as per the way he described her), I am suree she definitely holds other opinions he's doesn't share. So why the draw the line at Trump? And yes, at simply a vocal support when she's not even yet a citizen that can vote?

Would it not be better for him to not have offered her any help in the first place, than for him to leave her hanging... oh God.


Omo.

That's cold o.

It's the way God created humans beings sha. Differently differently.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:10pm On Nov 09, 2024
Ibime:
Nope. Like Bill Clinton will say, it's the economy stupid

Labour whitewashing Conservatives in UK counters everything you just typed

All people care about is their pocket not all this yada yada yada. Economy is enough to move the 10% of voters needed to win an election

2008 recession was enough to move America from Conservative to Democrat. In a mirror move, UK moved from Labour to Conservative at the same time. 2024 the same thing happens in opposite direction in both countries. It's not about ideology or any nonsense, economic turmoil always changes voter choice
My first sentence was inflation.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:12pm On Nov 09, 2024
Kukutente23:
Not true. Most McDonald's keep records of staff even adhoc staff. How was she paid if she had no records. Secondly, at least she'll know the name of her co-staff and supervisor who should be able to come out and say she worked with them in a deep blue area. No one has been able to point to any former co-worker. It's just like the Tinubu attended GCI or St Paul's story.
This is absurd. Such a stint can even be a couple of days and we are talking almost fifty years ago. You dont have a clue what you are saying here and you are taken in by far right media.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 3:15pm On Nov 09, 2024
IjeBos:
Oh, Trump's immigration policy bothers you now because of a woman who wouldn't look at you if you walked by?
What happened to all you support of all things Trump?
As I said you are fool and a degenerate.

She needed help in passing the exam because, if she fails it, the next time will be harder because of Trump.
There's already a new test in the works.
When I need advice from an incel on women, it'll be a sad day.

Like I said, people need to learn.
Anyone who supports Trump's ability to hurt other people can reap what they've sown.
No fuks given.

And for the food, she used to cook it and have it ubered to me.
Lol.
You and I are built different.
Interesting. 😂😂
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:16pm On Nov 09, 2024
Kukutente23:
You mean any time your child hides stuff from you, it's because you're a bad parent?
If your child can not tell you it is considering a gender change, then you really are not communicating with that child, and yes, that does make you a bad parent.

Your child should be able to tell you its concerns so you the parent can address them as you wish instead of farming out you parental duties to a teacher.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:18pm On Nov 09, 2024
Ibime:
The 10% of people who switch vote are usually lower educated ones who think their pocket situation is linked to the Presidents choices rather than MacroEconomic swings. It's just for the opposition to hammer the argument and take advantage of the low IQ in society and take that 10% of the vote. Same way Obama convinced voters George Bush was responsible for lax regulation leading to subprime mortgage crash and it's time for change. Infact George Bush era was characterised by the Sarbanes Oxley act which is one of the most important pieces of regulation on financial Governance. Supporters of both sides will amplify their sides argument, and in the end those who switch vote are usually the lower educated.

You will remember Pride of Lincoln attacking me for stating inflation is coming in early 2021. All economists knew it's inevitable and Republicans started laying down their argument to pin it on Biden right from Jan 2021.
you still find a way to chill for the Dems
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:22pm On Nov 09, 2024
Ibime:
The 10% of people who switch vote are usually lower educated ones who think their pocket situation is linked to the Presidents choices rather than MacroEconomic swings. It's just for the opposition to hammer the argument and take advantage of the low IQ in society and take that 10% of the vote. Same way Obama convinced voters George Bush was responsible for lax regulation leading to subprime mortgage crash and it's time for change. Infact George Bush era was characterised by the Sarbanes Oxley act which is one of the most important pieces of regulation on financial Governance. Supporters of both sides will amplify their sides argument, and in the end those who switch vote are usually the lower educated.

You will remember Pride of Lincoln attacking me for stating inflation is coming in early 2021. All economists knew it's inevitable and Republicans started laying down their argument to pin it on Biden right from Jan 2021.
The economy affects the low income workers more disproportionately when things get tight. The office worker might have savings, 401k he can draw from when things get hard. Many blue collar workers do not have the luxury. They make money daily

A handyman I use for home improvement told me that in the whole month of September he made just $500. It makes sense that when people are struggling financially they will put home improvement projects in the back burners

Politicians and Govt all over sell themselves as solutions to problems even if they have nothing directly to do with it. So its natural to get the blame when your admin didnt deliver what you promised (even when it wasnt within your power)

Trump was blamed for covid, Biden claimed the win for solving covid even though the vaccine was already done before him.

Tinubu for example was campaigning on bringing Dollar rates down, when in reality he knew the factors driving exchange rates was mostly beyond him at least in the short term
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:24pm On Nov 09, 2024
bemeruca:
ijebos was saying people have a hard time budgeting grin grin grin
He is a clown. At least everyone saw what he claims he does in his personal life and are disgusted that the animal was even proud to post it
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:25pm On Nov 09, 2024
Magnoliaa:
The pre-judgment is even crazy to me.


Like, did he try to engage her further? And SHE CONTINUED to maintain her Pro-Trump stance, after all the "conspiracist theories," and "fascist propaganda" she has likely been exposed to?


If he was cool with hanging out with a religious person (as per the way he described her), I am suree she definitely holds other opinions he's doesn't share. So why the draw the line at Trump? And yes, at simply a vocal support when she's not even yet a citizen that can vote?

Would it not be better for him to not have offered her any help in the first place, than for him to leave her hanging... oh God.


Omo.

That's cold o.

It's the way God created humans beings sha. Differently differently.
Some like ijebos are animals. Calling them human beings is not fair to normal human
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 3:27pm On Nov 09, 2024
bemeruca:
you still find a way to chill for the Dems
It's just the facts. I don't take sides when it comes to £ and $.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:29pm On Nov 09, 2024
DeepSight:
This is absurd. Such a stint can even be a couple of days and we are talking almost fifty years ago. You dont have a clue what you are saying here and you are taken in by far right media.
it is only you that believe this. Harris did not work at McD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNKDURsRqBM
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by kkins25(m): 3:30pm On Nov 09, 2024
cococandy:
You stopped reading at the part where your comprehension stopped. Nothing surprising there.

Not only will the tax cut cause a collapse of the program in years sooner than expected, he’s planning to deport illegal immigrants who paid 96 billion dollars in taxes this past year. Another huge soruce of funds for these programs and don’t even benefit from it.

I’ve talked enough.

Let’s see what happens
Other articles say the matter is more complicated than the media paints it.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 3:32pm On Nov 09, 2024
raumdeuter:
Some like ijebos...
Can eat the food a Trump supporter. grin


He was not scared of her religious mind doing something diabolical to him lmao?

After she's rendered her (willing*) labour to a relationship—platonic or otherwise—he cut her off callously with not so much as giving her closure.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 3:37pm On Nov 09, 2024
raumdeuter:
The economy affects the low income workers more disproportionately when things get tight. The office worker might have savings, 401k he can draw from when things get hard. Many blue collar workers do not have the luxury.

A handyman I use for home improvement told me that in the whole month of September he made just $500. It makes sense that when people are struggling financially they will put home improvement projects in the back burners

Politicians and Govt all over sell themselves as solutions to problems even if they have nothing directly to do with it. So its natural to get the blame when your admin didnt deliver what you promised (even when it wasnt within your power)

Trump was blamed for covid, Biden claimed the win for solving covid even though the vaccine was already done before him.

Tinubu for example was campaigning on bringing Dollar rates down, when in reality he knew the factors driving exchange rates was mostly beyond him at least in the short term
It's up to Politicians to educate the populace if they can if they know certain things are beyond their control. Bidens approach was to cross fingers and hope it doesn't happen. Then when it did happen, instead of explaining to the country, he started downplaying it, doing inflation reduction act etc

A proactive communicator will already warn the country what is coming and what to expect, blame it on the previous Government and sell the progress he is making to undo their rot, rather than selling hope. Trump is already doing that now so that any kasala that burst in his tenure, he can blame it on Biden. Obama was also proactive in this regard. The country was in pains from 2008 to 2010/11, but by the time he came round to 2012, he had already educated the country that he is fixing the rot of the previous administration and used that to only own the progress shown in 2011 to 2012 while disowning the pain of 2008-2010. That was enough for him to win 2012 election.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:37pm On Nov 09, 2024
Ibime:
It's just the facts. I don't take sides when it comes to £ and $.
Ibime you know you take sides. Me sef predicted the United States will struggle when trump leaves.

Inflation should not take very long to address. I understand the Logistics issues they faced after the pandemic, which should be a short-term problem, they did a lot of spending that does not make sense.

although i agree with you on this sha
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:38pm On Nov 09, 2024
Magnoliaa:
Can eat the food a Trump supporter. grin
He was not scared of her religious mind doing something diabolical to him lmao?
After she's rendered her (willing*) labour to a relationship—platonic or otherwise—he cut her off callously with not so much as giving her closure.
Hunger and poverty wont make him reject the food but when to give assistance, he ghosts

At least be a man and be proud of yourself and tell her directly that I wont be helping, not ghosting like a toddler
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:40pm On Nov 09, 2024
Magnoliaa:
Can eat the food a Trump supporter. grin


He was not scared of her religious mind doing something diabolical to him lmao?

After she's rendered her (willing*) labour to a relationship—platonic or otherwise—he cut her off callously with not so much as giving her closure.
Ijebos always has a story to say and my biggest shock is that he did not say she was his girlfriend this time although he was close to saying that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:42pm On Nov 09, 2024
Kukutente23:
Not true. Most McDonald's keep records of staff even adhoc staff.
Not from that far back when everything was paper based they don't. Too much junk if they tried, especially if the staff worked for a short time.

I know a store that in the 90s would hire over 100 staff every summer just to get through May-August. Their records were often not found when they came back the next summer not to talk of 30-40 years later. McD Franchises are even worse on record keeping.

Incidentally, to get those 100 I'd have to go through like 300-400 applicants. About 80% were immigrants from Italy, Spain and France who came to learn English.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:44pm On Nov 09, 2024
budaatum:
Not from that far back when everything was paper based they don't. Too much junk if they tried, especially if the staff worked for a short time.

I know a store that in the 90s would hire over 100 staff every summer just to get through May-August. Their records were often not found when they came back the next summer not to talk of 30-40 years later. McD Franchises are even worse on record keeping.

Incidentally, to get those 100 I'd have to go through like 300-400 applicants. About 80% were immigrants from Italy, Spain and France who came to learn English.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNKDURsRqBM
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 3:46pm On Nov 09, 2024
bemeruca:
Ibime you know you take sides. Me sef predicted the United States will struggle when trump leaves.

Inflation should not take very long to address. I understand the Logistic issues that they faced after the pandemic, that should be a short-term problem, they did a lot of spending that does not make sense
Increase in money supply in 2020 was slightly higher than 2021 own. About $3.5trln in 2020 to just over $3trln in 2021.

This is comparable to most Western countries in terms of split between both years. UK did quantitative easing of £450bln in 2020 and £450bln in 2021. What was used to recover from the pandemic would later be paid for in inflation but necessary at the time.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 3:46pm On Nov 09, 2024
So corolado legalised abortion up to 9 months with no medical proof required.
Waoh shocked shocked shocked


All sane countries legalised abortion on some grounds but aborting in 9 months without medical proof is insane and wicked
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 4:02pm On Nov 09, 2024
budaatum:
I think you don't quite understand what you are saying.

Do you not think you have not been responsible as a parent if your child leaves your house and goes and tells a teacher its gender choices that it can not tell you?
Let's see. A child goes to tell this cool uncle that he has a girlfriend and he's considering having sex with the girlfriend. He needs advice on the use of condoms.
Conclusion: Bad parent.
I get you.
Most children will not even think of such things as gender change if they are not being influenced. Like what the hell is gender change to start with?
You guys have made the abnormal, normal
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