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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by kkins25(m): 4:03pm On Nov 09, 2024
Ibime:
Nope. Like Bill Clinton will say, it's the economy stupid

Labour whitewashing Conservatives in UK counters everything you just typed

All people care about is their pocket not all this yada yada yada. Economy is enough to move the 10% of voters needed to win an election

2008 recession was enough to move America from Conservative to Democrat. In a mirror move, UK moved from Labour to Conservative at the same time. 2024 the same thing happens in opposite direction in both countries. It's not about ideology or any nonsense, economic turmoil always changes voter choice
So the economy wasn't good under Biden?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 4:03pm On Nov 09, 2024
bemeruca:
Ije bos always has a story to say and my biggest shock is that he did not say she was his girlfriend this time although he was close to saying that.
I see. 😹

raumdeuter:
Hunger and poverty wont make him reject the food but when to give assistance, he ghosts

At least be a man and be proud of yourself and tell her directly that I wont be helping, not ghosting like a toddler
Now y'all can carry on with your beef.

I want no part in it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 4:04pm On Nov 09, 2024
DeepSight:
This is absurd. Such a stint can even be a couple of days and we are talking almost fifty years ago. You dont have a clue what you are saying here and you are taken in by far right media.
You're making excuses for her without hearing her side. She said she did it as a summer job to be able to meet up with some bills in school. Does such jobs last for a couple of days?
For her to not have a co-worker or supervisor she can mention shows she's lying.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:05pm On Nov 09, 2024
Kukutente23:
You're making excuses for her without hearing her side. She said she did it as a summer job to be able to meet up with some bills in school. Does such jobs last for a couple of days?
For her to not have a co-worker or supervisor she can mention shows she's lying.
A summer job can be one day.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:06pm On Nov 09, 2024
raumdeuter:
Tinubu for example was campaigning on bringing Dollar rates down, when in reality he knew the factors driving exchange rates was mostly beyond him at least in the short term
I would say dump has done the exact same thing regarding manufacturing and inflation. But I am willing to wait and see. His tariffs alone will make prices go up, since you can't hire American labour as cheaply as in China and Mexico.

I read an article sometime ago where Apple was complaining that they can't even find the staff they'd need to make iPhones in America, which is why they farm manufacturing out to Foxconn.

Which reminds me. In Springfield, ...........
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 4:07pm On Nov 09, 2024
budaatum:
If your child can not tell you it is considering a gender change, then you really are not communicating with that child, and yes, that does make you a bad parent.

Your child should be able to tell you its concerns so you the parent can address them as you wish instead of farming out you parental duties to a teacher.
A child is not "it" Mr. A child is either he or she
Why should a child even be considering gender change in the first place if not indoctrination?

If you have children, you'll know they are good at keeping secrets and it has nothing to do with being good or bad parents. Besides, a parent should be a moral police fire their children so if your kids are comfortable discussing everything with you including whether or not to get an abortion, you need to check yourself
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:08pm On Nov 09, 2024
Kukutente23:
Let's see. A child goes to tell this cool uncle that he has a girlfriend and he's considering having sex with the girlfriend. He needs advice on the use of condoms.
Conclusion: Bad parent.
I get you.
Most children will not even think of such things as gender change if they are not being influenced. Like what the hell is gender change to start with?
You guys have made the abnormal, normal
Many children trust their teachers more than they trust their parents especially in educational settings. I know in Nigeria children respect or fear their teachers more than their parents.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 4:08pm On Nov 09, 2024
budaatum:
Not from that far back when everything was paper based they don't. Too much junk if they tried, especially if the staff worked for a short time.

I know a store that in the 90s would hire over 100 staff every summer just to get through May-August. Their records were often not found when they came back the next summer not to talk of 30-40 years later. McD Franchises are even worse on record keeping.

Incidentally, to get those 100 I'd have to go through like 300-400 applicants. About 80% were immigrants from Italy, Spain and France who came to learn English.
Ok. But she can't tell the name of her supervisor or Co-worker and she has no record of amnesia or does she?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:10pm On Nov 09, 2024
kkins25:
So the economy wasn't good under Biden?
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 4:10pm On Nov 09, 2024
bemeruca:
Many children trust their teachers more than they trust their parents especially in educational settings. I know in Nigeria children respect or fear their teachers more than their parents.
Exactly!! Especially in such schools were discipline of the students by the teachers is minimised or even non-existent.
Besides, the moronic law places premium on the teacher as having right to withhold information about kids from their parents. If you're looking for demons in human skin, look no further than demonrats
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 4:12pm On Nov 09, 2024
DeepSight:
A summer job can be one day.
A summer job to cover school bills can't be one day
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by kkins25(m): 4:16pm On Nov 09, 2024
budaatum:
I would say dump has done the exact same thing regarding manufacturing and inflation. But I am willing to wait and see. His tariffs alone will make prices go up, since you can't hire American labour as cheaply as in China and Mexico.

I read an article sometime ago where Apple was complaining that they can't even find the staff they'd need to make iPhones in America, which is why they farm manufacturing out to Foxconn.

Which reminds me. In Springfield, ...........
In dramatic 1800 british accent, "They're eating the catss..Of the people that lived there.."
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:19pm On Nov 09, 2024
budaatum:
I would say dump has done the exact same thing regarding manufacturing and inflation. But I am willing to wait and see. His tariffs alone will make prices go up, since you can't hire American labour as cheaply as in China and Mexico.

I read an article sometime ago where Apple was complaining that they can't even find the staff they'd need to make iPhones in America, which is why they farm manufacturing out to Foxconn.

Which reminds me. In Springfield, ...........
His argument for tariff is to bring manufacturing home and bring those jobs home, Not necessarily reduce price

If you want to manufacture abroad then you are denying Americans those jobs. If every job you are looking for the cheapest labor to do it then Americans will have no jobs.

Should we also send the jobs of politicians abroad too since there are politicians elsewhere who can do it cheaper
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:21pm On Nov 09, 2024
DeepSight:
A summer job can be one day.
Kamala can give an insight into this. How long the job was, who was her supervisor, which location she worked at etc Or she forgot it all
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:22pm On Nov 09, 2024
DeepSight:
A summer job can be one day.
Flipping burgers or kneeling down in the men's washroom?.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:28pm On Nov 09, 2024
basilico:
Flipping burgers or kneeling down in the men's washroom?.
She cannot do fries and do cashier in one day. She also needs at least a day or 2 to learn to do those things
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:31pm On Nov 09, 2024
Kukutente23:
Let's see. A child goes to tell this cool uncle that he has a girlfriend and he's considering having sex with the girlfriend. He needs advice on the use of condoms.
Conclusion: Bad parent.
I get you.
Most children will not even think of such things as gender change if they are not being influenced. Like what the hell is gender change to start with?
You guys have made the abnormal, normal
Not "a child". Your child. The child you allow to have a girlfriend and who now needs advice on the use of condoms. You haven't stated age here, but I really would have thought you'd have taught your child about sex and condoms, especially if you let said child have a girlfriend. You after all wouldn't want your child to compromise its future by non-condom use now would you, especially if you are against aborting.

As for your child being influenced to change its gender, sorry, but that's because you haven't influenced your child yourself. It's in fact similar to you not influencing your child not to be woke or a pagan and then blaming others for making your child woke and a pagan. If you trained your child in the way you want it to go, and if you did a good job at it, no one should be able to wokify your child, at least not until it becomes an adult.

I'm giving you a pass on your "You guys". Personally, I'm waiting for when children claim they are dogs and then start barking. Perhaps you'd accept the parent is responsible then for stupefying or allowing their own child to be stupefied into thinking it is what it isn't, while better parents are encouraging their children to think they can breath fire.

Basilico, I am talking to you!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:34pm On Nov 09, 2024
bemeruca:
Many children trust their teachers more than they trust their parents especially in educational settings. I know in Nigeria children respect or fear their teachers more than their parents.
I would expect this from you, lol.

Basilico, this is unacceptable. Your children must trust you more than they trust anyone else on this earth, but if you lie like you constantly do, the above from your pal will be true.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:37pm On Nov 09, 2024
Kukutente23:
Ok. But she can't tell the name of her supervisor or Co-worker and she has no record of amnesia or does she?
She shouldn't tell the name of her supervisor or Co-worker, and if she had in fact, that would have been the last straw of my support for her.

Think of the harassment those she named would have received from the magadumpsters and you just might understand why she mustn't.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie: 4:43pm On Nov 09, 2024
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by kkins25(m): 4:51pm On Nov 09, 2024
cococandy:
This is a republican propaganda talking point.
Children undergoing gender reassignment surgery is absolutely extremely rare if ever. The most kids who undergo anything related to gender surgery are straight boys who have unmanly breast tissue and want it removed so they can be more manly. So if anything it’s straight boys doing this and even then it’s still rare. You people don’t even live in America to be saying all the ish you’re saying. And you refuse to read actual statistics and studies done on this. Just picking up republicans propaganda and running with it.

Teachers FOR A FACT will get fired if they open their mouths to mention to a child that they are a different person trapped in a different body. Even if a child mentions this to a teacher, that teacher will direct them to school counseling.

I’ve lived in different states and so I’ve experienced different school systems. Even progressive California will not tolerate any teacher overstepping their scope to start telling children what to do with their bodies.

What makes it so easy to believe these nonsensical lies?
You love this man but I promise you he doesn’t think you deserve any respect as a woman. It’s unfortunate.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/gender-affirming-surgeries-rarely-performed-on-transgender-youth/
I'm sure he doesn't. That's why democrat media aren't hyping that he has appointed the First female chief of staff.

compare the Headline title of CNN with that of a right wing media.... So much for "respecting" women.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:57pm On Nov 09, 2024
raumdeuter:
His argument for tariff is to bring manufacturing home and bring those jobs home, Not necessarily reduce price

If you want to manufacture abroad then you are denying Americans those jobs. If every job you are looking for the cheapest labor to do it then Americans will have no jobs.

Should we also send the jobs of politicians abroad too since there are politicians elsewhere who can do it cheaper
The reason you don't "send the jobs of politicians abroad too" is not "since there are politicians elsewhere who can do it cheaper".

There are no politicians aboard anywhere who can legislate for America, just as you can't ship carer jobs or those of doctors elsewhere where it's cheaper. Instead, you bring those people into your country to do those jobs, hence they are eating the pets in Springfield.

Manufacturers will always look for the cheapest place to manufacture their products. They do not manufacture for the love of their customers or even to create jobs, but to create wealth in their own pockets. Problem is the cost of production is passed on to the consumer, and there is a significant difference in what a Chinese employee gets paid and what an American employee gets paid.

Just think small, if you will. Apple make iPhones in USA. USA employees (woke, and unionised), ask for a living wage. How much do you think that will add to the cost of the phone? And would it be competitive with say, Made in China Samsung?

Frustratingly, there's more to this that makes America uncompetitive as far as manufacturing goes, but we unfortunately don't seem to be capable of discussing such things here. That made in America iPhone will have pension costs added to it too, and you know I'd be striking for a living wage as soon as Apple releases its financials. Definitely not reduce prices if you want to manufacture in USA, and in fact inflate prices instead.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:57pm On Nov 09, 2024
budaatum:
I would expect this from you, lol.

Basilico, this is unacceptable. Your children must trust you more than they trust anyone else on this earth, but if you lie like you constantly do, the above from your pal will be true.
Do your children know that you have post here as budaatum?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m):
Kukutente23:
A summer job to cover school bills can't be one day
It can. Were you in her pocket? Do you know how much she had and what she wanted to make up?
By the way, I dont know either. I am just showing you that you are making presumptions rooted in bias.

You can't read anyone's life of fifty years ago in this way especially from such a great remove.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:59pm On Nov 09, 2024
basilico:
Flipping burgers or kneeling down in the men's washroom?.
It is ridiculous for any Trumpist to accuse anyone of anything related to sexual impropriety. That is like an Anini fan accusing anyone else of theft.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:06pm On Nov 09, 2024
basilico:
Do your children know that you have post here as budaatum?
My grandchildren too. Their knowing stops me from being stupid and irresponsible because they will query me about it. But even if they don't know, if I lie here like you often do, I will lie to them too, and they will eventually find out and not trust me, and trust their teacher (or peers) more than they their trust me their parent. And in my own opinion, that would make me a bad parent who failed at parenting, especially if I then come on here wailing that some teacher has more influence over the child I created.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by kkins25(m): 5:09pm On Nov 09, 2024
Self-censorship is on the rise in western societies.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRWMGlK24Hc
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie: 5:19pm On Nov 09, 2024
budaatum:
The reason you don't "send the jobs of politicians abroad too" is not "since there are politicians elsewhere who can do it cheaper".

There are no politicians aboard anywhere who can legislate for America, just as you can't ship carer jobs or those of doctors elsewhere where it's cheaper. Instead, you bring those people into your country to do those jobs, hence they are eating the pets in Springfield.

Manufacturers will always look for the cheapest place to manufacture their products. They do not manufacture for the love of their customers or even to create jobs, but to create wealth in their own pockets. Problem is the cost of production is passed on to the consumer, and there is a significant difference in what a Chinese employee gets paid and what an American employee gets paid.

Just think small, if you will. Apple make iPhones in USA. USA employees (woke, and unionised), ask for a living wage. How much do you think that will add to the cost of the phone? And would it be competitive with say, Made in China Samsung?

Frustratingly, there's more to this that makes America uncompetitive as far as manufacturing goes, but we unfortunately don't seem to be capable of discussing such things here. That made in America iPhone will have pension costs added to it too, and you know I'd be striking for a living wage as soon as Apple releases its financials. Definitely not reduce prices if you want to manufacture in USA, and in fact inflate prices instead.
I'm concerned about possible negative outcomes from tariffs proposed by President Trump. The USA in 1980 wasn't trading with China or Russia and our standard of living was still better than Nigeria grin

My view though is that the USA is engaged in a Survival War now and EVERYTHING is on the table, including some things that may be detrimental to free trade. The USA must do EVERYTHING and ANYTHING to win, and that means ANYTHING. That's all we want. AMERICA FIRST, from now on it's AMERICA FIRST, the rest of the world should go find ways to prosper and leave us alone to our suffering under King Donald Trump & Prince Baron Trump. grin

AMERICA FIRST, AMERICA FIRST, American jobs first, American prosperity first, American culture first, American domination first AMERICA FIRST!!!! The people of the United States are now the first priority of Government. We must share that Ukraine money among us!!! grin

Good Luck to Nigeria.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:20pm On Nov 09, 2024
DeepSight:
It can. Were you in her pocket? Do you know how much she had and what she wanted to make up?
By the way, I dont know either. I am just showing you that you are making presumptions rooted in bias.

You can read anyone's life of fifty years ago in this way from a distance.
Amazing how libtards go to huge lengths to exonerate their democrat leaders and thugs.
When a democrat is accused of anything the rudderless followers make up every excuse thinkable for them.
When it's Trump they blow everything out of context putting words in his mouth, making stupid conclusions and strutt around like a peacock as if they have won a lottery
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:22pm On Nov 09, 2024
Kukutente23:
A child is not "it" Mr. A child is either he or she
Why should a child even be considering gender change in the first place if not indoctrination?

If you have children, you'll know they are good at keeping secrets and it has nothing to do with being good or bad parents. Besides, a parent should be a moral police fire their children so if your kids are comfortable discussing everything with you including whether or not to get an abortion, you need to check yourself
Why would you irresponsibly let your child be indoctrinated to change its sex when you likely wouldn't allow that same child to be indoctrinated to change its religion?

Can your child keep secret from you that it does not worship your god anymore and now wants to go worship some other god? And if your child can't keep that from you, how the fuq should it be keeping the fact it wants to change its gender or species from you?

You should already be checking yourself if you allow your child to have a girlfriend but neglect to educate said child about condoms and safe sex, unless you want your child to be a father of course. Most parents will indoctrinate their children to not have a girlfriend in the first place, so sex and condoms and abortions are not the issue. After all, you do want your children to be president of something someday, right? And that's why you indoctrinate your child yourself in the way you want your child to go instead of leaving that responsibility to their cool uncle?

Sorry, but if your child keeps such a thing as its gender change a secret from you, then you really have not been spending enough time with that child. If you had, you'd have noticed a change in behaviour and manner such that its not the teacher your child confided in that ought to be informing you about the welfare of your child that you are supposed to be responsible for.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:23pm On Nov 09, 2024
budaatum:
The reason you don't "send the jobs of politicians abroad too" is not "since there are politicians elsewhere who can do it cheaper".

There are no politicians aboard anywhere who can legislate for America, just as you can't ship carer jobs or those of doctors elsewhere where it's cheaper. Instead, you bring those people into your country to do those jobs, hence they are eating the pets in Springfield.

Manufacturers will always look for the cheapest place to manufacture their products. They do not manufacture for the love of their customers or even to create jobs, but to create wealth in their own pockets. Problem is the cost of production is passed on to the consumer, and there is a significant difference in what a Chinese employee gets paid and what an American employee gets paid.

Just think small, if you will. Apple make iPhones in USA. USA employees (woke, and unionised), ask for a living wage. How much do you think that will add to the cost of the phone? And would it be competitive with say, Made in China Samsung?

Frustratingly, there's more to this that makes America uncompetitive as far as manufacturing goes, but we unfortunately don't seem to be capable of discussing such things here. That made in America iPhone will have pension costs added to it too, and you know I'd be striking for a living wage as soon as Apple releases its financials. Definitely not reduce prices if you want to manufacture in USA, and in fact inflate prices instead.
Actually you can do doctor jobs abroad. There is telehealth nowadays where your doctor might even be abroad

Re the politicians jobs, You can also bring Atiku, Tinubu, Sultan of Oman, Sheikh from Qatar into America, Mugabe, Macron etc and let them also use their knowledge and resources to compete for political posts with Pelosi, McConnell, Schumer and McCarthy

The goal of manufacturers is to maximize profit, the goal of govt is to protect their people. If your intention is to sell to American markets then make you production in America. If you cant give your jobs to Americans to make an income from you then maybe you dont deserve to get their money from products you sell. The taxes Americans pay is what you the manufacturer is enjoying not the taxes your Chinese workers pay to China

If made in America Apple ends up being $3k and made in China Samsung is $500, then slam $2700 on the Samsung phones and make them $3200 and more expensive to buy

American children cannot be going to bed hungry and your concern is how to feed Chinese kids
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