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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 5:39pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
Kukutente23:You really should stop pushing this. A student's stint half a century ago could be in too many diverse circumstances of flux and speed and brevity for you to sit down and judge from such a great remove. Secondly it is comical for any Trumpist to wage a war against anyone else telling lies. It is as comical as a supporter of Lawrence Anini condemning someone else they call a theif. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:48pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
raumdeuter:And this might work in America. Except for the fact that Samsung can easily be smuggled into USA so tariffs are avoided. And America Apple does not just intend for its product to be sold in America. Or do you think Samsung will not relish undercutting America Apple everywhere else in the world where their product will end up being cheaper? This is playing out with EVs at the moment by the way. China produces them cheaper than anywhere else, so everyone wants to manufacture in cheap China while everywhere else wants to put tariffs on Chinese EVs. Unfortunately, China is also the biggest market for made in America Apple and EVs, so it's literally like shooting one's own feet and head even. https://mobilityportal.eu/european-ev-manufacturers-produce-china/ That other stuff, doctors abroad, I'll ignore, as I'm certain you are aware that most people would rather not do zoom for medical health. And I don't even want to bring Tinubu et al to Nigeria, so there. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:59pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
budaatum:You can smuggle and if you are caught then you know you are committing a crime. America is still the biggest market for these high end products, You can manufacture your Parada Iphone, EV and sell it to other countries who probably cant afford it due to low standard of living If you want to bite from his American market, then provide Americans with the jobs You can manufacture Apple in China and sell to China or Malawi. or compete with other phone manufacturers and see the race to the bottom there Cost of living is more expensive in Lagos than Taraba but income and jobs are also more in Lagos than Taraba. Everyone will like to pick the cost of living of Taraba while earning the income in Lagos. But you have to pick all or nothing of Lagos or Taraba No one in the west will accept the working conditions in China where 8yr olds work in sweatshops and earn less than $5 a day, So China will always win the labor war. They have 1.5bn people EU also recently slammed tariffs on China EV to protect their local manufacturers, cos they realize if they open everything up based on Chinas lower cost of products EU EV manufacturers will all declare bankrupt. Per the medical and doctors, Its not about what you want, Hospitals have found that its cheaper to employ Tele doctors and you as the patient will have no choice, Now they will give you tablets that you will describe your symptoms and a doctor will join you on the call, If you want a 1v1 contact with a real life doctor, you have to pay a premium for it beyond what an average person can afford If you dont want to open US to every Tinubu Atiku, Sheikh, Sultan Macron etc to bring their expertise and money to compete for political jobs, why then are you okay with throwing the non politician blue collar to the entire global competition Remember, whatever you do now, there is someone else who can do it for cheaper in another country |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 5:59pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-airs-melania-trumps-nudes-primetime-1982683 A Russian state television network congratulated Melania Trump on her husband's reelection as president of the United States by showing nude photographs of her on live television, according to a post on X, formerly known as Twitter.Make of it what you will. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:04pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
budaatum:I assume you are a responsible parent who won't answer a simple question. Do your children know you post here as budaatum? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:07pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
GloriousGbola:I thought nudity is an expression of art? We have acclaimed paintings depicting nudity. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:09pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
DeepSight:I get it that liberals are allowed to lie but conservatives should not |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:09pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
This is the problem with leftists and you can see this in 95% of the people leaning left on this thread
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 6:16pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
Magnoliaa:I hear you about the micro utterance. I would not characterize all women like that, this is about this particular person. Though, I do have a larger problem with the transactional nature of relationships in Nigeria, Lagos esp and this ties into that. Honestly, she's stunning and so gets a lot of attention from everyone (even women). So not only about men. And so I think, she's used to and very comfortable getting her way. I won't characterize her as manipulative as everyone has their own agency, others may. But from her stories and what I've seen it is generally one way. And quite baffling to me. If you suggest you want something and someone gives it to you, eh. Our relationship is a bit different as I don't have patience for all that. And we have had plenty of discussions about the "onewayness" of her "interactions". So, I was jabbing Raum as he would probably throw all his money at her so she could smile. And she would smile so that raum could throw all his money at her. The problem is that I'm a Western left of center guy with a lot interactions with Nigerian people who live in Nigeria. And these interactions, because where Nigeria is, remind me, unfortunately that it is sometimes about gender. And the wild thing, to my dismay, it's generally woman who remind me. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 6:16pm On Nov 09, 2024*. Modified: 7:26pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
basilico:https://historycolored.com/articles/7377/when-the-russian-president-boris-yeltsin-was-caught-naked-outside-the-white-house/ https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32066222 Putin is going to slowly exact his revenge on the united states for the humiliation when the ussr fell. We are all going to be here to witness it. Trump, jill stein, Elon musk, compromised politicians - they are all tools to him in his end game to inflict maximum humiliation on the US and an end to us hegemony. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:18pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
raumdeuter:This is dumpism, and I'll just ignore it. You can't sell "8yr olds work in sweatshops and earn less than $5 a day" in Europe because we don't condone child labour. raumdeuter:This is not true where I live, and if it is true in America, then perhaps America needs to put tariffs on health care too, though I bet it would just inflate cost, and America would need those eating the pet people to fill the hospitals with doctors. raumdeuter:I can't help not think of those taking care of the elderly. They can't work remotely with a tablet to clean bottoms and feed their clients. They have to migrate where their clients are. I'm waiting to see what tariffs dump imposes and their consequence. It's an economic war (not battle) that I have been expecting for like 20 odd years now, and I'd love to see how it plays. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by grandstar(m): 6:19pm On Nov 09, 2024*. Modified: 6:41pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
raumdeuter:This is the problem with many people. You hate facts when presented I started condemning Buhari within his first 30days. I realised the nation had voted in an economic illiterate who was determined to impose his nonsensical policies on the economy. Charles Soludo, Lamido Sanusi and other economists condemned Buhari's policies. The masses kept silent. They knew no better Now that Tinubu is fixing the mess Buhari left behind, they are ignorantly placing all the blame on Tinubu. 23 American Nobel prize winners in economics have all rubbished Trump's proposed economics. His plan to place an import duty of 60% on all Chinese goods is a joke taken too far. It would lead to consumer price inflation and cause the American central bank, The Fed, to raise interest rates. These rate hikes can lead to a recession. I have little to say. Most Germans worshipped Hitler when he was in power. The man could do no evil in their eyes, despite the truth staring them in the face. The man was a denagogue. Even after the war ended and his suicide, many still believed in him. Trump is a demagogue. Some of his policies are good, but at the end of the day, he'll cause far more damage than good Stop calling all those who berate him leftist or other names, especially when they provide a sound reason to.The same was done to those who condemned Hitler. They were considered enemies of the state and of the people, and were persecuted. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:22pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
basilico:Stop asking me a question I already responded to! If you don't understand my response, try a follow up that at least shows you are using your brain please. budaatum: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:22pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
ijebosb:There is one problem, You are gay |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IyanAtiEgusi: 6:25pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
budaatum:abeg were Ereluroz? ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 6:31pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
grandstar:Like the case of Buhari we will hopefully all be here 4 years from now. As if we did not witness the dumpster fire and shit show that was the trump white house from 2016 to 2020 ending with the attempted coup on the Capitol. Maybe Ivanka will be secetary of state this time. Maybe there will be another pandemic where professional like Dr fauci will be attacked my maga Maybe trump will again give comfort and aid to us sworn enemies while Americans are neglected There are already stories about how rfk plans to gut the fda. The fda saved American children from thalidomide in the 70s and 80s. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 6:40pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:46pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
grandstar:All these are projections We already witnessed 4yrs of Trump and it was prosperous |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 6:47pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
budaatum:I don't find this funny. My child nor anyone's child is not it. You woke guys are crazy with pronouns. You need to be properly inform about woke miseducation in demonrat run states. All those woke nonsense is in their curriculum already. It is dishonesty of you to compare woke ideology with religion. Except if that's the woke idea. To turn wokeism to a faith based ideology. You miss the whole point though. Kids keep secret. Especially when the parent's stance on such things are already known to them. A child from a strictly religious family will know not to tell his parents about keeping girlfriends not to mention condoms or abortion. Same way a child from atheist background will not divulge to his parents if he were to attend a church meeting in school and considering changing his stance on faith. What you missed is the fact that state regulations allow the child to be educated on gender and sexuality in a twisted manner that is not acceptable to rational parents. Same regulations allow the child to keep such info about his decisions away from his parents. In other words, the State has opened a pathway for the child to be rebellious and be protected. How do you hold a parent responsible for that? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 6:48pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
DeepSight:You're the one making presumption. What she said was clear. It was a summer job to clear bills. It is you who reduced summer to a single day. Every other person knows summer lasts for 3 to 4 months |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 6:50pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
budaatum:Well, she shouldn't have raised a summer job as evidence of her middle class credentials if she wasn't willing to back it up with evidence. The demonrats started the fact checking business. They should have no problem living up to their own standards |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 6:52pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
budaatum:You're simply being ridiculous. No serious parent will allow a child of fifteen or below have a girlfriend. Your claim now is that such kids who do so have bad parenting to blame. You simply are not a parent to be so unaware of how children are. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:03pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
basilico:This is not about liberals or conservatives. The world knows fully well that there is only one politician in the USA who has broken all historical records as the greatest liar of all time. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:05pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
Kukutente23:That is a prersumption. People can have multiple summer jobs and yes, they can take one briefly and leave it. You simply dont know and you should stop pretending to know what you dont. I am careful to admit that I dont know either. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:07pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
Kukutente23:If no serious parent will allow their "child of fifteen or below have a girlfriend", then why was that what you proposed in the first place? If your "child of fifteen or below have a girlfriend", then in my own opinion you must be irresponsible, and moreso if you do not educate your "child of fifteen or below" about safe sex such that they now need to go and ask their cool uncle about condoms. You are even a worse parent if your "child of fifteen or below" does not know or accept the gender you gave birth to it with such that someone else now gets to indoctrinate it to be a gender it is not. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by grandstar(m): 7:10pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
raumdeuter:This Trump 2.0 may be far worse than his first . Yes, his tax cuts would have been good for the economy but economic analysis indicated it would have grown faster had he not gone on a trade war. His tariffs on Chinese goods actually slowed down the economy. In addition, the inflation that Biden had to fight, it all started during Trump's presidency. Those welfare checks and other schemes to boost the economy later became inflationary as too much money flowed into the system. The EU and the UK also suffered from the same inflation malaise caused by pumping too much money into the economy to reflate it. It wasn't uniquely limited to America. Anyway, I won't argue with you as you provided a reason why you believe the economy would do well under Trump again. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:13pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
GloriousGbola:That fella is determined, has a long memory and is committed to Russian resurrection as a global power. Regrettably, he is also a tyrannical and cold blooded killer. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 7:23pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
DeepSight:Putin is going to get that and more. The good thing is the EU are mentally prepared this time. They know what trump is - transactional veniak and unable to understand soft power, something even mafia leaders understand. As for Nigeria - Russia will be much more emboldened now. They have already instigated three or four coups in Africa, and will likely try to do the same in Nigeria. We saw the warm up during the protests If they pull this off this trumps admin will stand by and let it happen. And we will be back to a military dictatorship. The bush admin cracked America's reputation as the world's white knight. Trump will bury this once and for all. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 7:47pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
DeepSight:But she never said she had multiple summer jobs. She mentioned McDonald's and she never said she did it briefly and left it. Let's go with what she said. Summer job in McDonald's to pay her bills. Worked fries and cash register. Full stop |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kukutente23: 7:50pm On Nov 09, 2024 |
budaatum:I proposed it to show you that kids can be impulsive and rebellious. It doesn't make the parents bad or incompetent as you claim. It's like saying a child who grows up and then takes to crime should hold his parents responsible for the life he chose. A child has the school as one of the agents of socialisation. A school that teaches kids that it's OK to change your gender without informing your parents can't be blamed on the parents as you posit. It is a classical case of govt interfrence in parenting. |
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