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Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by Ndipe(m): 10:42am On Nov 13, 2024
Capital NO to property taxes in Nigeria. IMF should stop offering unsolicited 'advice" to us. The taxes that Nigerians have paid to the government hasn't resulted in any tangible benefit (like water and reliable electricity). So, how will property taxes be any different?
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by mrvitalis(m): 10:53am On Nov 13, 2024
W0rdOfYahuah:
I pray the scales of ignorance falls from your eyes. Have you wondered why despite having the power to print money, the Govt resorts to taxes for revenue?
Bro go pick up an economics text book and stop disgracing yourself

Why don't u print receipt n use it to go collect goods
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by mrvitalis(m): 10:55am On Nov 13, 2024
Believeintruth:
If it is property tax, we have land use tax already. you and i know the resources we have.
Which resources do you have exactly? Lmaoo

If you have resources Congo has what then
South Africa have what?

There is absolutely no resources we have that is economically viable that is not mined today

Nigerians are as ignorant as the leaders reason they get their and act shocked
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by oluwaseyi0: 10:56am On Nov 13, 2024
mrvitalis:
I have said it here for over 2 years , property tax is what is used to fund bulk of budget around the world

Every state can earn 300 billion minimum yearly from property tax

Lagos and Anambra can earn trillions


And this would always wake the people up and get them more involved in politics
It will only increase house rent astronomically
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by mrvitalis(m): 10:59am On Nov 13, 2024
oluwaseyi0:
It will only increase house rent astronomically
You guys are only focusing on the cost not the benefits


How... ? A house of 6 units 2 bedroom flats valued at say 120 million would only be required to pay Max 750k

That's 150k per flat... How's that much increase?
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by Wons(m): 11:13am On Nov 13, 2024
Getting funds is not our problem, the problem is 'what and how we use them'. I've not heard that Nigeria was denied loan before
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by senatordave1(m): 11:38am On Nov 13, 2024
mrvitalis:
I have said it here for over 2 years , property tax is what is used to fund bulk of budget around the world

Every state can earn 300 billion minimum yearly from property tax

Lagos and Anambra can earn trillions


And this would always wake the people up and get them more involved in politics
Tinubu will surely get to property tax
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by Believeintruth: 11:48am On Nov 13, 2024
mrvitalis:
Which resources do you have exactly? Lmaoo

If you have resources Congo has what then
South Africa have what?

There is absolutely no resources we have that is economically viable that is not mined today

Nigerians are as ignorant as the leaders reason they get their and act shocked
yes we have, but is the government making revenue from them? the answer is No. Look we need to fully harness the solid minerals and agric sector the latter for food security.
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by Abagworo(m): 11:50am On Nov 13, 2024
mrvitalis:
I have said it here for over 2 years , property tax is what is used to fund bulk of budget around the world

Every state can earn 300 billion minimum yearly from property tax

Lagos and Anambra can earn trillions


And this would always wake the people up and get them more involved in politics
You are as simplistic in knowledge of evonomics as our weak African leaders listening to IMF. Housing is extremely expensive in those countries paying high property tax while housing is cheap in Nigeria despite our higher deficiency. If Tinubu implements property tax then expect the anti people ripple effects as millions of homeless people will emerge. Next they will tell you how government is building relief low cost houses which in US they call "projects" for the homeless which can never be enough. Be careful what you wish for.
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by W0rdOfYahuah: 11:54am On Nov 13, 2024
mrvitalis:
Bro go pick up an economics text book and stop disgracing yourself

Why don't u print receipt n use it to go collect goods
I knew you'd bring up economics but that's only because you're merely voicing out the program you've been indoctrinated with your whole life. Wake up my bro, you've been living a lie. Have you ever wondered why we never experienced inflation prior to colonization? What if I told you debt and inflation is nothing more than a tool to crash the world's current monetary system (fiat currency) in order to give rise to the use of cryptocurrency. Have you ever wondered why Bitcoin despite being immaterial, is the world's most valuable currency? Yes 1 Bitcoin is worth more than 1kg of gold! There's too much history here you're not really ready for trust me but to let you on what's going on google the following:
1. Central Bank Of Digital Currencies
2. Digital IDs
3. RFID micro chips
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by Jungleluv5: 11:59am On Nov 13, 2024
Nigerians make una wake up IMF is coming again ooooo with their bad advice so that there will be more hardship. Make we no sleep ooooooo
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by valentineuwakwe(m): 12:00pm On Nov 13, 2024
mrvitalis:
I have said it here for over 2 years , property tax is what is used to fund bulk of budget around the world

Every state can earn 300 billion minimum yearly from property tax

Lagos and Anambra can earn trillions


And this would always wake the people up and get them more involved in politics
And your think property owners and landlords will not increase there rents to end users by 1000% when the tax comes into play?
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by davidif: 12:01pm On Nov 13, 2024
This is common sense and straight forward. I have been saying this for years. This is why even your most local village here is more well run than pretty much any where in Naija. It's because the different levels of govt: federal, state and local are almost semi independent of each other and even though they get money from each other but they are still able to stand on their own feet.
Take for example, local govts. Over here, there are two types of local govts: county govt and city govt. This govts raise money from property taxes and can take care of themselves with little contribution from the state or the fed govt. Now compare that to Naija where a whole state can barely function without allocations. If you cant raise revenue without allocations you shouldnt be a state period.
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by davidif: 12:05pm On Nov 13, 2024
mrvitalis:
I have said it here for over 2 years , property tax is what is used to fund bulk of budget around the world

Every state can earn 300 billion minimum yearly from property tax

Lagos and Anambra can earn trillions


And this would always wake the people up and get them more involved in politics
Property taxes should be used at the local govt level and not the state level. The state and fed govt should focus on income or sales tax. That's how things work in some smart countries. People are more likely to agree with property taxes if it is charged by their local govt than the state govt.
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by mrvitalis(m): 12:08pm On Nov 13, 2024
valentineuwakwe:
And your think property owners and landlords will not increase there rents to end users by 1000% when the tax comes into play?
How does that make sense to you

A man owns 6 unit of 2 bedroom rent is 1.5 million each that's 9 million

House is valued at 120 million he is taxed 1% value of house that's 1.2 million a year... N u think that would make him double his rent?.

Oh please...

This means a street of 200 houses would generate 220 million

Tell me why you would have potholes on such street
Tell me why there refuses won't be taken...

Of even if a government borrows 1 billion to fix the street in 5 years it's side back
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by Hotspurs: 12:09pm On Nov 13, 2024
wait oo thats true...we are suppose to debate it since we have rep
malali:
The Neo-Colonialists will not stop till every single Nigerian is DEAD.

1-Remove oil subsidy, the country will get better

2-Float the Naira the economy will be perfect

3-Now they are advocating for property tax on every house.

Why did we vote for legislators when fiscal policies are implemented on the directive of IMF and World Bank ? Removal of fuel subsidy and floating the Naira without a legislative debate and agreement by majority constituents in the house of rep and senate.....was an illegal and impeachable act.
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by mrvitalis(m): 12:10pm On Nov 13, 2024
Abagworo:
You are as simplistic in knowledge of evonomics as our weak African leaders listening to IMF. Housing is extremely expensive in those countries paying high property tax while housing is cheap in Nigeria despite our higher deficiency. If Tinubu implements property tax then expect the anti people ripple effects as millions of homeless people will emerge. Next they will tell you how government is building relief low cost houses which in US they call "projects" for the homeless which can never be enough. Be careful what you wish for.
Lmaoo a 10% increase in rent won't kill anyone but the benefits would out way that
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by mrvitalis(m): 12:10pm On Nov 13, 2024
Believeintruth:
yes we have, but is the government making revenue from them? the answer is No. Look we need to fully harness the solid minerals and agric sector the latter for food security.
Name the resources we have in economically viable number
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by mrvitalis(m): 12:11pm On Nov 13, 2024
davidif:
Property taxes should be used at the local govt level and not the state level. The state and fed govt should focus on income or sales tax. That's how things work in some smart countries. People are more likely to agree with property taxes if it is charged by their local govt than the state govt.
I don't believe in local government they are waste of resources

Our states are not to big to handle those functions
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by malali(op): 12:12pm On Nov 13, 2024
Hotspurs:
wait oo thats true...we are suppose to debate it since we have rep
The bill was not passed in house of representatives
The bill was not passed in the senate
Tinubu just announced it like "morning after military coup"

Where is the democracy ?
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by Abagworo(m): 12:14pm On Nov 13, 2024
mrvitalis:
Lmaoo a 10% increase in rent won't kill anyone but the benefits would out way that
The increase will be 500% like every aspect of our economy that IMF advice was implemented.
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by mrvitalis(m): 12:16pm On Nov 13, 2024
Abagworo:
The increase will be 500% like every aspect of our economy that IMF advice was implemented.
How is that logical
Housing tax is like 1% value of house
Most rent of buildings are between 5% to 15% value of house

You are being emotional not logical
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by ablejesus26(m): 12:20pm On Nov 13, 2024
mrvitalis:
I have said it here for over 2 years , property tax is what is used to fund bulk of budget around the world

Every state can earn 300 billion minimum yearly from property tax

Lagos and Anambra can earn trillions


And this would always wake the people up and get them more involved in politics
You are trying to create an avenue for bigger looting sprees.
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by abuhusna1: 12:20pm On Nov 13, 2024
malali:
The Neo-Colonialists will not stop till every single Nigerian is DEAD.

1-Remove oil subsidy, the country will get better

2-Float the Naira the economy will be perfect

3-Now they are advocating for property tax on every house.

Why did we vote for legislators when fiscal policies are implemented on the directive of IMF and World Bank ? Removal of fuel subsidy and floating the Naira without a legislative debate and agreement by majority constituents in the house of rep and senate.....was an illegal and impeachable act.
House rent will be as expensive as abroad
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by Ezsam70: 12:24pm On Nov 13, 2024
mrvitalis:
I have said it here for over 2 years , property tax is what is used to fund bulk of budget around the world

Every state can earn 300 billion minimum yearly from property tax

Lagos and Anambra can earn trillions


And this would always wake the people up and get them more involved in politics
Bros u dey talk say Naija na abroad, where money recovered will be used judiciously, if u like tax air we breed Naija will not develop.


Remove subsidy they remove it
Float naira dey floated it which difference do u see....
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by wink2015(m): 12:28pm On Nov 13, 2024
HOW DO YOU TAX NORTHERNERS LIKE THE FULANI WHO LIVE IN THE FOREST AND REAR COWS ?

They are very rich from the revenue they get from cattle sales but they look poor on the surface.

They do not even pay taxes on the cattle.

Many Abokis do not even have taxable properties.

SO THE TAX THE IMF IS TALKING ABOUT IS DIRECTED AT THE AVERAGE SOUTHERNERS.

At the end they will want to ask for their ''OWN SHARE FROM THE REVENUE''
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by davidif: 12:30pm On Nov 13, 2024
Hemanwel:
Our leaders are quick to welcome and implement policies of the IMF that will further impoverish the Nigerian masses, but if the same IMF had advised that the government should reduce the cost of governance by reducing the salaries of the presidency and the senators, trim the cabinet members to the barest number, and so on, you'll see them distancing themselves from such advice.

The Structural Adjustment Program of the 80s by the IMF are programs that have impoverished the Nigerian people, which we have not recovered from till date
My brother, if you dont want to abide by the terms and agreements of taking a loan from the IMF then don't take care their money. It's as simple as that. Abi, you never hear say, the borrower is a slave to the lender? If you dont want my money then don't take it but if you do then you surely must abide by their terms afterall, the IMF is not a charity but a financial institution. Which means if they lend you money they are going to expect it back period.

For those who dont know, the IMF was created after WW2 to mostly provide all these newly independent and cash strapped nations with loans. It is different from its sister organization, the world bank which was created to provide loans for long term capital projects (dams etc). The IMF was partly created to provide shorter term loans (especially emergency loans) for countries that needed it. That's why they are called the lender of last resort. In other words, they are the people you go to when no one else can help you. In my own way, I would like to compare them to pay day loans over here, which are institutions you run to when you need emergency cash or when your credit ratings (history) is really messed up (Nigerias case, fron the last time I checked it really is). That's why it's mostly a lot of basket case countries that dont know how to manage their finances that end up going there. It's really a humbling experience for some to end up walking into the IMF office to ask for money because their country cant get its act together.
So just like a bank that lends you money, the IMF would scrutinize also your finances. Afterall, they want to see if you can pay them back and they will want to see what you are doing well ans what you are doing not so well at and they will give you advice on how you can fix it and make your system more streamlined and efficient afterall they want to get their money back so they are invested in your success.

So at the end of the day, lik e I said earlier, if you dont want them telling you what to do then dont go begging them for money. End of discussion.
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by Hotspurs: 12:33pm On Nov 13, 2024
but how come you never talked, we should have made this trend on twitter,some of us no no law, so we need to understand
malali:
The bill was not passed in house of representatives
The bill was not passed in the senate
Tinubu just announced it like "morning after military coup"

Where is the democracy ?
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by bjdon: 12:34pm On Nov 13, 2024
WeddingParol:
I am not againt reasonable taxation in Nigeria but my concerns are:

1. How have we judiciously utilised the ones being collected?

2. Have we blocked the tax collectation leakages from the existing ones?

3. What has the government done with regards to embezzlement and misappropriation of the taxes currently collected?

4. What measures have been deployed to stop the use of public taxes to finance the flamboyant lifestyles of civil servants and politicians alike?

5. The informal tax collection by the likes of NURTW, Local governments touts and some Unions, how has the government streamlined it to ensure proper remittance instead of the back-door shearing arrangements currently practised with the civil servants and politicians.

Before some of you who have not even travelled outside your village will start comparing Nigeria with your saner climes in terms of taxation, note that non of the above mentioned points/questions is in practice over there.
Valid questions. I feel once people start paying taxes, they will begin to hold government to account.
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by Lithiumite: 12:39pm On Nov 13, 2024
malali:
Collecting revenue without creating complementary jobs.....is akin to a genocide. Where do you expect the citizens to get money to pay the taxes ? Do you know the homeowners will transfer he cost to the tenants ? The unemployment rate in Nigeria is over 50% and getting worse, thats why JAPA is on the rise....So where exactly do you expect people to get this money from ?
If you have the resources to own a property,you must have the resources to pay taxes.....Lagos is already charging tenement rates with full compliance and heavens haven't fallen.

It's downright irresponsible for people to own properties,some owning several properties and not wanting to pay anything to govt ......there are people who have property they have no use of and it's of no use to the community either or govt,now people would learn to be more responsible with property ownership.....a lot of activities would come up in the real estate market as many would be forced to sell off the properties they can't pay taxes over.
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by LordIsaac(m): 12:50pm On Nov 13, 2024
mrvitalis:
I have said it here for over 2 years , property tax is what is used to fund bulk of budget around the world

Every state can earn 300 billion minimum yearly from property tax

Lagos and Anambra can earn trillions


And this would always wake the people up and get them more involved in politics
It is a wicked program. It means you don't own your house. Even the Whites are complaining. When you are old and jobless and can no longer pay the tax on your property, you eventually lose it!
Re: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by frog12: 12:54pm On Nov 13, 2024
after yawa break, imf go deny everything again grin grin grin
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