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Michael547:
If you say that pastors are not pressuring anyone to pay tithe, why do pastors like the one on this thread only tell their members of good things that happen to those that pay tithe but hardly talk about the good things that also happen to those who do not pay tithe?
Is it that they believe that something is actually special about paying tithe even when the bible does not say so?

Your lecturer can only force you to listen to his teachings BUT can't force you to write his exams
Sheti?

victorazyvictor:
God bless you.

Can you point out a verse where christ encouraged Christians to pay tithe?

victorazyvictor:
Your lecturer can only force you to listen to his teachings BUT can't force you to write his exams
Sheti?

Lol...funny analogy. Bring out a verse where christ made tithing a command.

gunners160:
How many of you watched the video? the answer is i did and honestly, i see nothing wrong with what they said. If u think tithing works for u, do it and if it does not work u , dont do it,. It is as simple as A, B,C. I dont pay tithe but however, i still buy tithe by giving what i have to my parent because they are my spiritual leaders. IF u ask me, tithing does not mean giving to a pastor but giving dues to whom dues are meant to be given, However, a lot of us here do not even knw how to appreciate. That is where issues come in. ....... Learn to help others and not always urself. That should be the message

If you give 90% of your increase, it's no longer a tithe. Tithe is 10% and no more. It would be safer if you use the phrase "sacrificial persistent giving"...

Michael547:
Can you point out a verse where christ encouraged Christians to pay tithe?

Just like Ten Commandments, God Himself gave the law, He even go further by saying "Try me with it" Kai!!! una no dey fear o! to discourage not to pay tithe, una no dey fear God I swey.

Michael547:
Lol...funny analogy. Bring out a verse where christ made tithing a command.

God is Jesus and Jesus is God.

Yes Christ said in Malachi 3:10

Arostar2023:
If you give 90% of your increase, it's no longer a tithe. Tithe is 10% and no more. It would be safer if you use the phrase "sacrificial persistent giving"...

A lot of them don't even understand the meaning of the word 'tithe'. They think it means just merely giving to people or pastors.

Michael547:
If you say that pastors are not pressuring anyone to pay tithe, why do pastors like the one on this thread only tell their members of good things that happen to those that pay tithe but hardly talk about the good things that also happen to those who do not pay tithe?
Is it that they believe that something is actually special about paying tithe even when the bible does not say so?

People preach or talk on a model they know.The pastor is speaking from the model he knows. He has seen people pay time and it works for them and he cant say otherwise. If you feel the model is wrong, u are free to create your own model that has worked for u. Everybody is entitled to what works for them but calling anoda persons model wrong because u dont understand the model does not make u right

victorazyvictor:
Just like Ten Commandments, God Himself gave the law, He even go further by saying "Try me with it" Kai!!! una no dey fear o! to discourage not to pay tithe, una no dey fear God I swey.

Since you are still under the ten commandments, when is the sabbath day? Let me see if you obey that command.

Michael547:
Lol...funny analogy. Bring out a verse where christ made tithing a command.

Oga nobody is forcing u to pay tithe (how much do u have?). Can you tithe buy one ceiling fan in church?

gunners160:
People preach or talk on a model they know.The pastor is speaking from the model he knows. He has seen people pay time and it works for them and he cant say otherwise. If you feel the model is wrong, u are free to create your own model that has worked for u. Everybody is entitled to what works for them but calling anoda persons model wrong because u dont understand the model does not make u right

Lol....so the only model a pastor knows is paying of tithe? A model that Jesus himself did not preach? Is that what the gospel is all about?

victorazyvictor:
God is Jesus and Jesus is God.

Yes Christ said in Malachi 3:10

If God is Jesus and Jesus is God, explain Psalms 83:18 and John 14:28 in the screenshot below.

victorazyvictor:
Oga nobody is forcing u to pay tithe (how much do u have?). Can you tithe buy one ceiling fan in church?

Ok good. Since nobody is forcing me to pay tithe, if I don't pay tithe, would God bless me and make me rich? Yes or no?

IrepChrist:
It is only those that loves God and want to sincerely see his ministry move forward that will see nothing wrong with tithing.. You are not required to pay tithe under the doctrine of grace, yes it was a law. But Christ encouraged that we continue to pay tithe but we must be obedient to God's will and exp byectations for our lives.

I WILL CONTINUE TO PAY MY TITHE BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE CHRIST GOSPEL PROPELED BY MY GIVINGS.

Where did Christ encourage u to pay tithes? Infact if u do then u must keep the other laws cause then u r saved by law not grace.

Let them continue, if what they are doing is right in the eyes of God then let God be glorified and return to them blessings upon blessings but if it is wrong,I pray that God should exposed them and set his people free from their hand ..

Michael547:
Since you are still under the ten commandments, when is the sabbath day? Let me see if you obey that command.

oya lets go there. Oga Sabbath day is a day set out by man to rest from your day to day hard work so that you can live long on earth.
Your resting day (Sabbath) can be Monday just like East now Jewish ideology, it can be Saturday or Sunday (Christianity) or it can even be Friday (Muslims) there is no specific day.

Nigerians deserve these mad men in religion and politics! They endlessly defend them.

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The only thing I have against Nigeria pastors is that they lied about how tithe is being offered. The Bible in the book of Deuteronomy 14 ; 22-29 says set aside your tithe once in three years of your increase to place of worship so that the priest can eat because they don't have inheritance, they are solely in the temple doing God's work. The Bible in Malachi 3;10is talking to the priest not children of Israel. Any pastor eating tithe and still having business is a thief.

victorazyvictor:
oya lets go there. Oga Sabbath day is a day set out by man to rest from your day to day hard work so that you can live long on earth.
Your resting day (Sabbath) can be Monday just like East now Jewish ideology, it can be Saturday or Sunday (Christianity) or it can even be Friday (Muslims) there is no specific day.

Is this the teaching that was taught to the isrealites? Were they told that the sabbath day could be any day?
Kindly show me that in the bible.

Michael547:
Ok good. Since nobody is forcing me to pay tithe, if I don't pay tithe, would God bless me and make me rich? Yes or no?

Oga being rich is not from God alone, you can get rich from so many ways BUT the rich from God added no sorrow, that's the diff.

When Jesus was on the mountain didn't you hear that Satan told him to bow to him so that he will be the richest in the world?

I don't want to tell you my story plz.

victorazyvictor:
Oga being rich is not from God alone, you can get rich from so many ways BUT the rich from God added no sorrow, that's the diff.

When Jesus was on the mountain didn't you hear that Satan told him to bow to him so that he will be the richest in the world?

I don't want to tell you my story plz.

You are dodging my question.
Since nobody is forcing me to pay tithe, if I don't pay tithe, would God bless me and make me rich? Yes or no?

Michael547:
Is this the teaching that was taught to the isrealites? Were they told that the sabbath day could be any day?
Kindly show me that in the bible.

Oga oya tell us is Saturday or Sunday
Because your using English calendar what about old Igbo calendar that has only 4 days? Make we dey reason na

BrightQuadri:
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As properly stated in the headline, it is just a "story".
What yahoo boys call "format".

Religion is equivalent to the mafia, drug cartels, etc.

All are crime organisation.

victorazyvictor:
Oga oya tell us is Saturday or Sunday
Because your using English calendar what about old Igbo calendar that has only 4 days?

I am not discussing igbo calendar.
On what day was the sabbath day for the isrealites?
Do you obey the sabbath like the isrealites, or don't you have 7 days in a week just like the isrealites had seven days in the bible?

Slurity:
I WAS TOTALLY DISAPPOINTED IN PST PAUL ENENCHE TO THE EXTENT THAT AFTER REMOVING MYSELF FROM ALL IN SOCIAL MEDIA AND YOUTUBE CHANNELS I NEARLY STOP GOING TO CHURCH. He is an example of many Pastors that stop believing in God but money. Its is so embarrassing that someone i respect that much even need salvation that i don't even know. May God save his soul from earthly wealth.

Don't be surprised and disappointed brother.
As for me, Pastor Paul Enenche has lost it.
The only message about him that is true gospel of Jesus Christ, was before he struck fame. You can go and listen to those messages not the ones he preaches currently. Money don come so the guy don loose guard. I pray he re-traces his steps to his first love

IbileIfe:
Did the apostles of our Lord JESUS Christ pay tithe during His time and afterwards?

They payed more than tithes. They gave all that they had and shared it among themselves.

Michael547:
You are dodging my question.
Since nobody is forcing me to pay tithe, if I don't pay tithe, would God bless me and make me rich? Yes or no?

I didn't dodge your question.
Making money is by principle and there are many ways to make money.

The problem you guys and even many pastors have is that they don't know the work of tithes and offerings.

victorazyvictor:
I didn't dodge your question.
Making money is by principle and there are many ways to make money.

The problem you guys and even many pastors have is that they don't know the work of tithes and offerings.

Lol....funny man.....do you agree that God will bless me and make me rich if i don't pay my tithe? Yes or no?

Michael547:
I am not discussing igbo calendar.
On what day was the sabbath day for the isrealites?
Do you obey the sabbath like the isrealites, or don't you have 7 days in a week just like the isrealites had seven days in the bible?

From 7 days, did it tell you is Saturday or Sunday? Besides, if you start recognising Tuesday as 1st day of the week sure it will stand

Basicend:
The payed more than tithes. They gave all that they had and shared it among themselves.

So why the emphasis on tithe if we can even give more or less....why not just tell people to be generous like the apostles did?

victorazyvictor:
From 7 days, did it tell you is Saturday or Sunday? Besides, if you start recognising Tuesday as 1st day of the week sure it will stand

Lol....so you are telling me now that you don't even know the day of the sabbath for the isrealites and that you don't follow it the way they did? But you are here shouting about tithe? Can you see the hypocrisy?