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Wrong, Tinubu is Yoruba president and will remain Yoruba President as long as Yoruba are comfortable with him

odejimioflagos:
Tinubu is the president and he will continue to be the president.

All these noise is just noise.

Bebigiby1:
Earlier today, news of an update regarding David Hundeyin's FOIA disclosure case on Tinubu was published by many news websites. As usual, Nigerians were quick to react to it by posting comments on several social media websites, I was privilaged to engage with several users of this platform on matter and I must say that some of the comments I read were shocking, I felt ashamed reading these comments because it is challenging to believe that educated people will reason or behave the way some users reacted to the issue.... What I learnt from Tinubu's CIA asset scandal is that many Nigerians have no moral compass left in them and will support Tinubu even if a video evidence is presented showing that he shot and killed a child in cold blood. Simply put, many Nigerians are willing to trade their life on the alter of tribalism to ensure that Tinubu remains the president irrespective of whatever evil act he does.....

US intelligence agency's response to the FOIA requests was a damning one that I believe no sane sovereign African country will treat with lavity. The reaction of many Nigerians and the Nigerian government to this issue led to me to my final conclusion that Nigeria is indeed not a sane country because if Nigeria is a sane country, the fact that Tinubu was implicated in a drug related case and has a damning file in the possession of a foreign government should be enough reason to impeach and remove him immediately.... Seeing Nigerians insulting and fighting each other instead of calling for his impeachment today was a shameful sight to behold....

It is hopeless to keep pretending that Nigeria can function as a sane country or attain any meaningful progress when a majority of it's citizens are deeply biased, sentimentally compromised towards holding their government accountable, when a majority of it's citizens are incapable of admitting the truth about a crime committed irrespectful of the tribe of the person involved due to deep rooted tribal hateful sentiments ..... Tinubu's shameful presidency lays credence to the fact that the APC propaganda machine have won and Nigeria's enemies are laughing at Nigerians....

Since majority of the people have become hopelessly lost to tribalism, religious bigotry corruption and dishonesty to the point they can longer tell themselves the truth or reason like normal human beings, Nigerians have only 2 options to choose if they want to salvage what is left of their country.

First option - Weaken the centralized government by decentralizing political and economic power structures to devolve to regions,/states.....

Second option - Divide the country so it's regions can go separate ways....

Anything short of these 2 options is a waste of time... Nigeria's unity is a scam, Nigeria's unity is a mirage..... it's a shame.....

May this never be your final take on Tinubu CIA things. God will continue to keep you busy with his issues till your children continue from wherever you will stop.
Congratulations for the soon to be relaunch.
Una never start

All this uproar over a single generic CIA response! It’s merely speculation without solid evidence. The federal government should urgently declare a state of emergency in our education sector to address the fundamental issues hindering our citizens’ ability to think critically. Am I mistaken? Do you have any proof to support your claims beyond that generic CIA statement?

@kobojunkie thanks for honouring my request.... I admire the detailed bullet approach you deploy in dissecting comments on this platform irrespective of how silly such comments may be.

You see the reason I blame the system is because of every day observable practical experiences on how Nigerians react to issues of governance..... Many Nigerians are helplessly tribalist when it comes to analysing national political events and issues of corruption involving government officers like president or governors.... Weakening the center and decentralizing political power to regions/states is not a silver bullet that will make all these selfish biases go away but I believe it will reduce it because then it will no longer be an issue of "....you're criticizing Tinubu because your Obi who is your tribesman did not become president wailer!...." or ".... it is good that Tinubu as president is appointing only Yoruba into his government, you will wail for eternity...." even when there are clear reasons to criticize the actions of government, such divisive destructive rhetorics, comments like these and so many other hurtful actions that Nigerians do to each other have overtime have caused irreparable distrust and damage to the little gains made towards unity that existed during Obasanjo, Yaradua and Jonathan's government.... There is need for an overhaul of the system that will create the opportunity to depolarize and de-escalate..... There is a vast difference between each region as regards, tribal, religious and cultural values, these diversities have overtime been weaponized mainly by politicians to drive a false narrative that has succeeded in dividing the people to a point that many Nigerians in the southern part of the country do not see any unifying factor between them and those in the northern part.... These same sentiment is shared by majority of those in north for obvious reasons.....

You made a great point regarding Nigeria's societal and educational value system which I agree but I think if Nigeria is restructured or divided, the social and economic competition it will bring among the regions especially at the grass root levels will go a long way in addressing this.... The prolonged polarization using divisive tribalistic religious propaganda coupled with the impunity exhibited by unrepentant looters (politicians) who steal public funds and get away with it, did a lot of damage to Nigeria's moral value system.... Nigeria needs a structural reset to heal.... Looking at some terrible tribal induced hateful comments on this thread alone, you can see that no genuine progress can be made as hateful tribalism has eaten deep into many Nigerians.... How do you explain it that there are still many people supporting the callous government that is inflicting pain on them without looking stupid....? Only a partial or full separation can restore some kind of sanity to what is happening in Nigeria....

Kobojunkie:
1. Mental problems are not that easily blamed on others or systems. So, no point abeg! Not every Nigerian from that system is tribalistic and bigoted even though the vast majority turned out that way, so it is a copout of sorts to try to blame it on the system when it is more of individual psychosis.

2. My simple conclusion is that our value systems in Nigeria, and much of Africa are utterly worthless particularly where it has to do with personal and societal development. The society and educational system have been wrong for a long time and that is why we rarely raise people who put society and the welfare of others before their selfish desires and goals. Even at the tribal and traditional level, the very same is obtained. It's a no-brainer then why at the national level, all we have is the same mirror shone back at society. That's been my thought since my days growing up in Nigeria and it remains the same even today. Until we reconfigure our value system at the bottom, Nigerians will continue in the same part even if you were to divide it up this very day into over 250 different pieces— a piece for every ethnic group.

Yes it is not the final or ultimate solution but it is a pathway to it.... I understand that you've given up on this generation already based on your submission. I believe a partial separation (restructuring) or full separation (Division) is better than doing nothing, it is achievable and will go a long way in helping Nigeria address most of these issues....

Kobojunkie:
Solution? What you prescribed earlier isn't a solution though since it has already been tried before and was found wanting. So why expect a solution from me? I merely know where the problem that you described as though as mass psychosis in fact comes from. The solution... yeah... not for the current generation at all.

Bebigiby1:
I know that is why I am making the case for Nigerians to restructure or divide the country so you can enjoy your president in peace and let others who do not want him to move on.....

The problem with you people is that you are so troublesome, you can start a fight in an empty bar. If not, you'd have noted what you are demanding is what Tinubu is trying to do and be lending your support to him even if begrudgingly.

Look at the deliberate plan to give more autonomy to LGAs, States and regions and you will see what is obvious to discerning folks. We have the Elephant in the room, I.e the North, which means a Southern President must move with guile to achieve what you are demanding.

It is under Tinubu, as he promised before becoming President, that every region now have development commission leaving it up to them to develop or stagnate as desired. Many of Tinubu's action are geared towards the creation of a future Nigeria where States and regions can develop commensurate to their zeal and readiness for development minus the 'one Nigeria' impediments that made that previously impossible.

Open your eyes and stop writing lengthy emptiness that makes it appear you are either blind to the obvious or deliberately wish to appear blind to it to indict Tinubu of inaction and thus failure. Those who have unbiased eyes and good intentions can see what BAT is doing no other past President has ever attempted.

Is Tinubu's US drug related case not damning enough to declare him unfit to be president.....? Are you okay with the series of international embarrassment Nigeria is been subjected to constantly because of him? Can you hire someone with similar baggages like him as a manager in your business?

lionshare:
All this uproar over a single generic CIA response! It’s merely speculation without solid evidence. The federal government should urgently declare a state of emergency in our education sector to address the fundamental issues hindering our citizens’ ability to think critically. Am I mistaken? Do you have any proof to support your claims beyond that generic CIA statement?

Okay can explain how he is trying to do it?

UltraSolid:
The problem with you people is that you are so troublesome, you can start a fight in an empty bar. If not, you'd have noted what you are demanding is what Tinubu is trying to do and be lending your support to him even if begrudgingly.

Funny.... Your response only seem to reinforce and validate my final resolution on this thread.... Enjoy the ride....

gr8ofnnetwork:
May this never be your final take on Tinubu CIA things. God will continue to keep you busy with his issues till your children continue from wherever you will stop.
Congratulations for the soon to be relaunch.
Una never start

Bebigiby1:
Okay can explain how he is trying to do it?

After you wrote what is shown below, revealing your bais against Tinubu, and your subsequent conclusion he is "unfit to be President", you think anyone will believe you can be objective towards BAT? I will then waste my own time in a serious discussion with you? I already worked you out.

Bebigiby1:
Is Tinubu's US drug related case not damning enough to declare him unfit to be president.....? Are you okay with the series of international embarrassment Nigeria is been subjected constantly because of him? Can you hire someone with similar baggages like him as a manager in your business?

That is why I said in my last post:

you are either blind to the obvious or deliberately wish to appear blind to it to indict Tinubu of inaction and thus failure.

You've show the bolded is correct with your quoted post above. Regardless of your attempt at pretending to seek solutions, it is obvious you are the typical hateful Igbo seeking Tinubu's removal from office. Waste of time engaging your sort in any back and forth.

Bebigiby1:
Earlier today, news of an update regarding David Hundeyin's FOIA disclosure case on Tinubu was published by many news websites. As usual, Nigerians were quick to react to it by posting comments on several social media websites, I was privilaged to engage with several users of this platform on matter and I must say that some of the comments I read were shocking, I felt ashamed reading these comments because it is challenging to believe that educated people will reason or behave the way some users reacted to the issue.... What I learnt from Tinubu's CIA asset scandal is that many Nigerians have no moral compass left in them and will support Tinubu even if a video evidence is presented showing that he shot and killed a child in cold blood. Simply put, many Nigerians are willing to trade their life on the alter of tribalism to ensure that Tinubu remains the president irrespective of whatever evil act he does.....

US intelligence agency's response to the FOIA requests was a damning one that I believe no sane sovereign African country will treat with lavity. The reaction of many Nigerians and the Nigerian government to this issue led to me to my final conclusion that Nigeria is indeed not a sane country because if Nigeria is a sane country, the fact that Tinubu was implicated in a drug related case and has a damning file in the possession of a foreign government should be enough reason to impeach and remove him immediately.... Seeing Nigerians insulting and fighting each other instead of calling for his impeachment today was a shameful sight to behold....

It is hopeless to keep pretending that Nigeria can function as a sane country or attain any meaningful progress when a majority of it's citizens are deeply biased, sentimentally compromised towards holding their government accountable, when a majority of it's citizens are incapable of admitting the truth about a crime committed irrespectful of the tribe of the person involved due to deep rooted tribal hateful sentiments ..... Tinubu's shameful presidency lays credence to the fact that the APC propaganda machine have won and Nigeria's enemies are laughing at Nigerians....

Since majority of the people have become hopelessly lost to tribalism, religious bigotry corruption and dishonesty to the point they can longer tell themselves the truth or reason like normal human beings, Nigerians have only 2 options to choose if they want to salvage what is left of their country.

First option - Weaken the centralized government by decentralizing political and economic power structures to devolve to regions,/states.....

Second option - Divide the country so it's regions can go separate ways....

Anything short of these 2 options is a waste of time... Nigeria's unity is a scam, Nigeria's unity is a mirage..... it's a shame.....

You are what you described others as
Tribal bigot.

The CIA didn't confirm PBAT as an asset. You ran with fake news and believed it,

You got fooled guy

I made that comment before you updated your comment.... I will address your updated edited comment quote for quote in a new comment....

UltraSolid:
After you wrote what is shown below, revealing your bais against Tinubu, and your subsequent conclusion he is "unfit to be President", you think anyone will believe you can be objective towards BAT? I will then waste my own time in a serious discussion with you? I already worked you out.

That is why I said in my last post:


You've show the bolded is correct with your quoted post above. Regardless of your attempt at pretending to seek solutions, it is obvious you are the typical hateful Igbo seeking Tinubu's removal from office. Waste of time engaging your sort in any back and forth.

Bebigiby1:
I am totally convinced that Nigeria needs to be totally restructured or divided.... Nothing can solve the country's problem until it is done....

No
What we need is a change of heart by both those in position of authority and the citizens .

If you restructure , isn't it same Nigerians that will be in charge?
You just simply change one set of thieves for another, with restructuring you just widen the scope and make more money available to be stolen

You edited your earlier comment only to quote my response to your earlier comment as a basis to launch a personal attack on me only shows you lack integrity.... I've attached a screenshot of your comment which I replied to below....

UltraSolid:
After you wrote what is shown below, revealing your bais against Tinubu, and your subsequent conclusion he is "unfit to be President", you think anyone will believe you can be objective towards BAT? I will then waste my own time in a serious discussion with you? I already worked you out.




That is why I said in my last post:


You've show the bolded is correct with your quoted post above. Regardless of your attempt at pretending to seek solutions, it is obvious you are the typical hateful Igbo seeking Tinubu's removal from office. Waste of time engaging your sort in any back and forth.

So UltraSolid tried to play on our intelligence here?

Chai, what a bateria

@ultrasound here is the updated section of your comment as shown in screenshot below.... you then grabbed my old comment to attack and insult.... Not nice....

Yes he feels he is smart....

FourQu:
So UltraSolid tried to play on our intelligence here?

Chai, what a bateria

Bebigiby1:
You edited your earlier comment only to quote my response to your earlier comment as a basis to launch a personal attack on me only shows you lack integrity.... I've attached a screenshot of your comment which I replied to below....

You're a clown clearly fond of redundant back and forth. Yes I added to my initial post. Is that a crime or does it nullify your comment about Tinubu which shows you are biased against him, and seeking his ousting, yet you start a thread pretending to offer solutions he can adopt. Can a racist give a black man beneficial advice?

Your opinion indict you per what you really are I.e an unobjective and bigoted hater of PBAT. Grow up and own your utterances. Senseless back and forth can't change your own talk that exposes your mindset.

FourQu:
So UltraSolid tried to play on our intelligence here?

Chai, what a bateria

Another clown. It is your own fellow bigot trying to play on the intelligence of the entire forum. Will a racist offer you anything other than pretence since he does not and can never like you?

Your boy is an unrepentant hater of Tinubu who is always seeking his removal from office. What does he hope to achieve with this pretentious thread? The hack lists options shown below. Only his kind, including you of course, will pretend Tinubu is not moving deliberately to enact what is shown below.

What is the LG autonomy Tinubu just secured if not a plot to "weaken the centralized government"? As if we do not know the ploy of you lot is to keep pretending not to see the good the President is doing so you can daily and consistently keep pushing for his ousting from office. You lot are are nothing but hateful saboteurs and clowns.

First option - Weaken the centralized government by decentralizing political and economic power structures to devolve to regions,/states.....

Second option - Divide the country so it's regions can go separate ways....

Anything short of these 2 options is a waste of time... Nigeria's unity is a scam, Nigeria's unity is a mirage..... it's a shame.....

The mere fact that a foreign intelligience agency CIA, known to go rogue sometimes having a file on a president is reasons...alone to IMPEACH ASIWAJU

UltraSolid:
Another clown. It is your own fellow bigot trying to play on the intelligence of the entire forum. Will a racist offer you anything other than pretence since he does not and can never like you?

Your boy is an unrepentant hater of Tinubu who is always seeking his removal from office. What does he hope to achieve with this pretentious thread? You lot are clowns.

Is that why you wrote one thing down and edited it before lying that you never wrote down whatever you first edited?

You see how you tried to decieve yourself

See the useless bateria has done it again

Write one thing down and after you have replied to it the werey will go and edit it again and accuse you of writing rubbish

UltraSolid bateria tueeh

FourQu:
Is that why you wrote one thing down and edited it before lying that you never wrote down whatever you first edited?

You see how you tried to decieve yourself

Clown. I've just added to my original response to you. Go and check. Does that mean I am trying to decieve or simply that I later had more content to add as is allowed? Why does posting feature editing function if such is wrong? Olodo.

You're the one trying to decieve making an issue of nothing and holding on to idiocy and non-issues obdurately. Una no get sense anyway so can't blame you.

UltraSolid:
Clown. I've just added to my original response to you. Go and check. Does that mean I am trying to decieve or simply that I later had more content to add as is allowed? Why does posting feature editing function if such is wrong? Olodo.

You're the one trying to decieve making an issue of nothing and holding on to idiocy and non-issues obdurately. Una no get sense anyway so can't blame you.

You are a deciever and learner bateria. You have no single integrity and nobody with sense can waste their time debating or bantering you here because you say one thing now and change your words later behind backs.

Tueeh , Tueeh , Tueeh shameful bateria

Many Nigerians are miseducated or not educated at all on these things. So, don't be surprised at the reactions towards this implicative discovery.
It's pathetic for the entire nation.

Bebigiby1:
Earlier today, news of an update regarding David Hundeyin's FOIA disclosure case on Tinubu was published by many news websites. As usual, Nigerians were quick to react to it by posting comments on several social media websites, I was privilaged to engage with several users of this platform on matter and I must say that some of the comments I read were shocking, I felt ashamed reading these comments because it is challenging to believe that educated people will reason or behave the way some users reacted to the issue.... What I learnt from Tinubu's CIA asset scandal is that many Nigerians have no moral compass left in them and will support Tinubu even if a video evidence is presented showing that he shot and killed a child in cold blood. Simply put, many Nigerians are willing to trade their life on the alter of tribalism to ensure that Tinubu remains the president irrespective of whatever evil act he does.....

US intelligence agency's response to the FOIA requests was a damning one that I believe no sane sovereign African country will treat with lavity. The reaction of many Nigerians and the Nigerian government to this issue led to me to my final conclusion that Nigeria is indeed not a sane country because if Nigeria is a sane country, the fact that Tinubu was implicated in a drug related case and has a damning file in the possession of a foreign government should be enough reason to impeach and remove him immediately.... Seeing Nigerians insulting and fighting each other instead of calling for his impeachment today was a shameful sight to behold....

It is hopeless to keep pretending that Nigeria can function as a sane country or attain any meaningful progress when a majority of it's citizens are deeply biased, sentimentally compromised towards holding their government accountable, when a majority of it's citizens are incapable of admitting the truth about a crime committed irrespectful of the tribe of the person involved due to deep rooted tribal hateful sentiments ..... Tinubu's shameful presidency lays credence to the fact that the APC propaganda machine have won and Nigeria's enemies are laughing at Nigerians....

Since majority of the people have become hopelessly lost to tribalism, religious bigotry corruption and dishonesty to the point they can longer tell themselves the truth or reason like normal human beings, Nigerians have only 2 options to choose if they want to salvage what is left of their country.

First option - Weaken the centralized government by decentralizing political and economic power structures to devolve to regions,/states.....

Second option - Divide the country so it's regions can go separate ways....

Anything short of these 2 options is a waste of time... Nigeria's unity is a scam, Nigeria's unity is a mirage..... it's a shame.....

Bebigiby1:
Earlier today, news of an update regarding David Hundeyin's FOIA disclosure case on Tinubu was published by many news websites. As usual, Nigerians were quick to react to it by posting comments on several social media websites, I was privilaged to engage with several users of this platform on matter and I must say that some of the comments I read were shocking, I felt ashamed reading these comments because it is challenging to believe that educated people will reason or behave the way some users reacted to the issue.... What I learnt from Tinubu's CIA asset scandal is that many Nigerians have no moral compass left in them and will support Tinubu even if a video evidence is presented showing that he shot and killed a child in cold blood. Simply put, many Nigerians are willing to trade their life on the alter of tribalism to ensure that Tinubu remains the president irrespective of whatever evil act he does.....

US intelligence agency's response to the FOIA requests was a damning one that I believe no sane sovereign African country will treat with lavity. The reaction of many Nigerians and the Nigerian government to this issue led to me to my final conclusion that Nigeria is indeed not a sane country because if Nigeria is a sane country, the fact that Tinubu was implicated in a drug related case and has a damning file in the possession of a foreign government should be enough reason to impeach and remove him immediately.... Seeing Nigerians insulting and fighting each other instead of calling for his impeachment today was a shameful sight to behold....

It is hopeless to keep pretending that Nigeria can function as a sane country or attain any meaningful progress when a majority of it's citizens are deeply biased, sentimentally compromised towards holding their government accountable, when a majority of it's citizens are incapable of admitting the truth about a crime committed irrespectful of the tribe of the person involved due to deep rooted tribal hateful sentiments ..... Tinubu's shameful presidency lays credence to the fact that the APC propaganda machine have won and Nigeria's enemies are laughing at Nigerians....

Since majority of the people have become hopelessly lost to tribalism, religious bigotry corruption and dishonesty to the point they can longer tell themselves the truth or reason like normal human beings, Nigerians have only 2 options to choose if they want to salvage what is left of their country.

First option - Weaken the centralized government by decentralizing political and economic power structures to devolve to regions,/states.....

Second option - Divide the country so it's regions can go separate ways....

Anything short of these 2 options is a waste of time... Nigeria's unity is a scam, Nigeria's unity is a mirage..... it's a shame.....

No wonder they us government hav been behaving funny anything questions is asked abt tinubu.As long as CIA n DEA hav refused to bring our case on tinubu to d public...it means he serves a purpose for dem.

Bebigiby1:
✓ Yes it is not the final or ultimate solution but it is a pathway to it.... I understand that you've given up on this generation already based on your submission.
✓ I believe a partial separation (restructuring) or full separation (Division) is better than doing nothing, it is achievable and will go a long way in helping Nigeria address most of these issues....

Given up? These people are part of the genesis....the carrier generation -- of the problem that I described. And as you noted, their kind of psychosis is on a massive level, with near no end in sight. There is no me giving up on them as instead they have refused to fight for better for themselves. You can't force a horse to drink after you have led it to a stream.

2. Earlier, I painted a clear picture of how this problem is made even more pronounced when you take a look at life at the individual LGA levell in Nigeria. Yet here you are still insisting that some sort of partial separation will fix things. There are 774 partially separated LGAs as we speak and absolutely none of them can boast of functioning systems to date.

You may think yourself removed from the mass psychosis you described earlier but if you paid more attention to the disconnect in your reasoning, you may find that you are yourself closer to it than you would like to admit.

Bebigiby1:
I know that is why I am making the case for Nigerians to restructure or divide the country so you can enjoy your president in peace and let others who do not want him to move on.....

Who force them to born u for The Federal Republic of Nigeria?

Only an IDIOT would recognize DRUGGIE as his president.

bdon123:
No wonder they us government hav been behaving funny anything questions is asked abt tinubu.As long as CIA n DEA hav refused to bring our case on tinubu to d public...it means he serves a purpose for dem.

Poor Man know your level, incoherent wailers Bola Tinubu is your Master, acknowledge this & know peace.

Burruchaga71:
Only an IDIOT would recognize DRUGGIE as his president.

Who fault say them born u for The Federal Republic of Nigeria?

Burruchaga71:
Only an IDIOT would recognize DRUGGIE as his president.

the moment You decided not to fight for your stolen mandate is the moment you recognized him as your president.