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Lol .. this Alfa again... always pulling another person's faith down...but u will be calling it blasphemy if they do same you you...

You even missed the other Gods..I guess it is more than that.

You missed "God the devil"..

I wonder how Christian missed that guy...he fought 1 in all of them and came out. Just like the movie fantastic four rise of the silver surfer. Where Mr fantastic, invincible girl and the thing had to give their power to storm to fight victor Von doom.
The father and spirit was all in jesus when the devil carried him to the high mountain.. I wonder the mountain where you can see all the kingdom of the world..

Sad story though..

AntiChristian:
The creed that states the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are coequal and coeternal is the Nicene Creed.

Council of Nicaea: The Nicene Creed was established at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. This council was convened by the Roman Emperor Constantine I to address the Arian controversy, particularly the teachings of Arius, who denied the full divinity of Jesus Christ.

There is no evidence of trinity in the Bible without reading it into some verses and then retranslating it.

This is also true for the creed that the Father = the son = the Holy Spirit!

There's no evidence for this anywhere in the Bible!

The theory was fixed by twisting some biblical references, along with theological reflections and debates of the early Church Fathers and this contributed to the formulation of the Nicene Creed, affirming the equality and eternity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Christian belief.

Even Trinity exists in the Quran. You are just too blind to see it

Kukutente23:
Even Trinity exists in the Quran. You are just too blind to see it

You are the only one seeing it through the Holy Spirit eye!

Kukutente23:
Even Trinity exists in the Quran. You are just too blind to see it

Sorry, but AntiChristian is right on this. The pagan doctrine of the Trinity is most unbiblical good sir.

I once collated twenty clear verses from scripture which make this clear - over ten years ago on this board -



D1 - I Tim. 2:5: - For there is one God, and one Mediator of God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus Christ”

D2 - John 14:28 – “I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I”.

D3 - I Cor. 11:3 - “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God “

D4 - Eph. 1:15 - 17. - “15 Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints,16 do not cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers: 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him”

D5 - I Pet 1:3 - "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ"

D6 - Mark 10:18 - “So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.”

D7 - I Cor. 15:28 - “Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.”

D8 - John 15:1 – 10:“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 “Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away;[a] and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 “You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me."

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 “If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 “By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples. 9 “As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 “If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

D9 - John 20:17 – “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’”

D 10 - John 17:1 - 8 – “1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 “as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should[a] give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 “And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4 “I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5 “And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.”

6 “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. 7 “Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. 8 “For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me."

D 11 - Mark 13:32 - “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

D12 - Acts 2:22 – 24 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— 23 “Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken[b] by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; 24 “whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it.

D13 - Luke 22:41 - 42 – “41 And He was withdrawn from them about a stone’s throw, and He knelt down and prayed, 42saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.” (The Prayer in Gethsemane).

D14 - John 8:40 - “But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.”

D15 - Luke 23:32 - 34 – “There were also two others, criminals, led with Him to be put to death. 33 And when they had come to the place called Calvary, there they crucified Him, and the criminals, one on the right hand and the other on the left. 34 Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”

D16 - Matt 21:33 – 42 “33 Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country. 34 “Now when vintage–time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit. 35 “And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another.

36 “Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them. 37 “Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38 “But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ 39 “So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.

40 “Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?”

41 They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”

42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
‘The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone.
This was the Lord’s doing,
And it is marvelous in our eyes’

(The Parable of the Vineyard)

D17 - Matt 27:45 – 46 “45 Now from the sixth hour until the ninth hour there was darkness over all the land. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

D18 – Mark 16:19 – “So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.” [And all other scripture which refers to Christ as sitting at the Right Hand Side of God, including Psalm 110:1, and all similar scripture in the Book of Revelation].

D19 - John 3:16 - “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 “For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. [Only Begotten Son - "Monogenes" - and all other verses in scripture where the term "monogenes" i.e: "only begotten" is used].

D20 - Deuteronomy 6:4 - "Hear o Isreal, the Lord our God, the Lord is One."


https://www.nairaland.com/1341464/anony-deep-sight-verse-verse

DeepSight:
Sorry, but AntiChrn is right on this. The pagan doctrine of the Trinity is most unbiblical good sir.

I once collated twenty clear verses from scripture which make this clear - over ten years ago on this board -



D1 - I Tim. 2:5: - For there is one God, and one Mediator of God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus Christ”

D2 - John 14:28 – “I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I”.

D3 - I Cor. 11:3 - “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God “

D4 - Eph. 1:15 - 17. - “15 Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints,16 do not cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers: 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him”

D5 - I Pet 1:3 - "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ"

D6 - Mark 10:18 - “So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.”

D7 - I Cor. 15:28 - “Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.”

D8 - John 15:1 – 10:“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 “Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away;[a] and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 “You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me."

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 “If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 “By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples. 9 “As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 “If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

D9 - John 20:17 – “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’”

D 10 - John 17:1 - 8 – “1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 “as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should[a] give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 “And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4 “I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5 “And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.”

6 “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. 7 “Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. 8 “For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me."

D 11 - Mark 13:32 - “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

D12 - Acts 2:22 – 24 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— 23 “Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken[b] by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; 24 “whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it.

D13 - Luke 22:41 - 42 – “41 And He was withdrawn from them about a stone’s throw, and He knelt down and prayed, 42saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.” (The Prayer in Gethsemane).

D14 - John 8:40 - “But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.”

D15 - Luke 23:32 - 34 – “There were also two others, criminals, led with Him to be put to death. 33 And when they had come to the place called Calvary, there they crucified Him, and the criminals, one on the right hand and the other on the left. 34 Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”

D16 - Matt 21:33 – 42 “33 Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country. 34 “Now when vintage–time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit. 35 “And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another.

36 “Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them. 37 “Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38 “But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ 39 “So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.

40 “Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?”

41 They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”

42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
‘The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone.
This was the Lord’s doing,
And it is marvelous in our eyes’

(The Parable of the Vineyard)

D17 - Matt 27:45 – 46 “45 Now from the sixth hour until the ninth hour there was darkness over all the land. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

D18 – Mark 16:19 – “So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.” [And all other scripture which refers to Christ as sitting at the Right Hand Side of God, including Psalm 110:1, and all similar scripture in the Book of Revelation].

D19 - John 3:16 - “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 “For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. [Only Begotten Son - "Monogenes" - and all other verses in scripture where the term "monogenes" i.e: "only begotten" is used].

D20 - Deuteronomy 6:4 - "Hear o Isreal, the Lord our God, the Lord is One."


https://www.nairaland.com/1341464/anony-deep-sight-verse-verse

John 14:10
Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works



2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.




John 1:1–5
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.



John 10:30
“I and the Father are one.

DeepSight


Jesus’ claim that I and the Father are one (i.e., one entity—the Gk. is neuter; cf. John 5:17–18; John 10:33–38) echoes the Shema, the basic confession of Judaism, whose first word in Deut. 6:4 is shema‘ (Hb. “hear”). Jesus’ words thus amount to a claim to deity. Hence, the Jews pick up stones to put him to death. Jesus’ unity with the Father is later said to constitute the basis on which Jesus’ followers are to be unified (John 17:22). As in 1:1, here again the basic building blocks of the doctrine of the Trinity emerge: “I and the Father” implies more than one person in the Godhead, but “are one” implies that God is one being.

DeepSight:
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Here are the daughters of allah, his fellow idols that made up of WE, US, OUR you saw in quran


Your allah wish to have a son

Quran 39:4
If Allah had willed to choose a son, He could have chosen what He would of that which He hath created...

Your islamic deity allah has daughters

Quran 37:153 Muhammad Asad
“He has chosen daughters in preference to sons”

Quran 37:153 Wahiduddin Khan
Has He chosen daughters over sons


AND THE DAUGTHERS ARE:

Quran 53:19-21
Have you then considered Lat and ‘Uzza And another, the third, Manat Are the males for you and for Him the females

DeepSight:
Sorry, but AntiChristian is right on this. The pagan doctrine of the Trinity is most unbiblical good sir.

I once collated twenty clear verses from scripture which make this clear - over ten years ago on this board -



D1 - I Tim. 2:5: - For there is one God, and one Mediator of God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus Christ”

D2 - John 14:28 – “I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I”.

D3 - I Cor. 11:3 - “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God “

D4 - Eph. 1:15 - 17. - “15 Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints,16 do not cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers: 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him”

D5 - I Pet 1:3 - "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ"

D6 - Mark 10:18 - “So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.”

D7 - I Cor. 15:28 - “Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.”

D8 - John 15:1 – 10:“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 “Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away;[a] and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 “You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me."

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 “If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 “By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples. 9 “As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 “If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

D9 - John 20:17 – “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’”

D 10 - John 17:1 - 8 – “1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 “as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should[a] give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 “And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4 “I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5 “And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.”

6 “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. 7 “Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. 8 “For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me."

D 11 - Mark 13:32 - “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

D12 - Acts 2:22 – 24 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— 23 “Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken[b] by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; 24 “whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it.

D13 - Luke 22:41 - 42 – “41 And He was withdrawn from them about a stone’s throw, and He knelt down and prayed, 42saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.” (The Prayer in Gethsemane).

D14 - John 8:40 - “But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.”

D15 - Luke 23:32 - 34 – “There were also two others, criminals, led with Him to be put to death. 33 And when they had come to the place called Calvary, there they crucified Him, and the criminals, one on the right hand and the other on the left. 34 Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”

D16 - Matt 21:33 – 42 “33 Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country. 34 “Now when vintage–time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit. 35 “And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another.

36 “Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them. 37 “Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38 “But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ 39 “So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.

40 “Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?”

41 They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”

42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
‘The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone.
This was the Lord’s doing,
And it is marvelous in our eyes’

(The Parable of the Vineyard)

D17 - Matt 27:45 – 46 “45 Now from the sixth hour until the ninth hour there was darkness over all the land. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

D18 – Mark 16:19 – “So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.” [And all other scripture which refers to Christ as sitting at the Right Hand Side of God, including Psalm 110:1, and all similar scripture in the Book of Revelation].

D19 - John 3:16 - “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 “For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. [Only Begotten Son - "Monogenes" - and all other verses in scripture where the term "monogenes" i.e: "only begotten" is used].

D20 - Deuteronomy 6:4 - "Hear o Isreal, the Lord our God, the Lord is One."


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You have missed the idea of Trinity. Trinity does not say God is not one. It says God exists or has appeared in three forms to we humans. One is as God the father who sits on the throne, the son who is the word of God and became Jesus in human flesh, and His spirit which is the breath of God. All three forms or expression are also mentioned in the Quran. That they are not conceptualized as Trinity does not remove their existence. It is simply the ignorance of Muhammad who focused more on the polytheism of his Arab kinsmen than the true knowledge of God. Know that Allah has existed in Meccan worship before Muhammad. In fact, the name Allah is coined from the Aramaic language El Eloha which means "the god". So every concept and idea of religion or religiosity mentioned by Muhammad is not new. They all existed before him. He simply went with his own understanding of issues and sought to incorporate all sides into his view in a bid to be acceptable to all. When that failed, he went political and declared war on whoever disagreed with him.

For example, a lot of you fail to realise that God's first and only physical appearance to Abraham was as three persons. Read Gen 18vs1-3

Then the Lord appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day. 2So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground, 3and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant. 4Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree. 5And I will bring a morsel of bread, that you may refresh your hearts. After that you may pass by, inasmuch as you have come to your servant.”

They said, “Do as you have said.”

Now the question is if it is indeed God that appeared to Abraham in human form as the Bible recorded or he was simply misguided

AntiisIam:
John 10:30
“I and the Father are one.

In that very verse, he added "Just as ye and I are one."
So are you now Jesus?

And also therefore God?

Its obvious he meant of one mind, or united in thought.

Kukutente23:
You have missed the idea of Trinity. Trinity does not say God is not one. It says God exists or has appeared in three forms to we humans. One is as God the father who sits on the throne, the son who is the word of God and became Jesus in human flesh, and His spirit which is the breath of God. All three forms or expression are also mentioned in the Quran. That they are not conceptualized as Trinity does not remove their existence. It is simply the ignorance of Muhammad who focused more on the polytheism of his Arab kinsmen than the true knowledge of God. Know that Allah has existed in Meccan worship before Muhammad. In fact, the name Allah is coined from the Aramaic language El Eloha which means "the god". So every concept and idea of religion or religiosity mentioned by Muhammad is not new. They all existed before him. He simply went with his own understanding of issues and sought to incorporate all sides into his view in a bid to be acceptable to all. When that failed, he went political and declared war on whoever disagreed with him.

For example, a lot of you fail to realise that God's first and only physical appearance to Abraham was as three persons. Read Gen 18vs1-3

Now the question is if it is indeed God that appeared to Abraham in human form as the Bible recorded or he was simply misguided

I have given you scripture. Try not to be the usual religionist who is content to ignore his scripture in favour of his dogma.

PS: Three entities making an appearance says nothing to suggest that Jesus is God, or even that God is triune.

DeepSight:
In that very verse, he added "Just as ye and I are one."
So are you now Jesus?

And also therefore God?

Its obvious he meant of one mind, or united in thought.

In which verse? Hope allah has not blindfolded you

AntiisIam:
In which verse? Hope allah has not blindfolded you

John 17:21 -

New Living Translation
I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me.

https://biblehub.com/john/17-21.htm

PS: I am not Muslim. I dont endorse any Abrahamic religion.

AntiisIam:
Here are the daughters of allah, his fellow idols that made up of WE, US, OUR you saw in quran


Your allah wish to have a son

Quran 39:4
If Allah had willed to choose a son, He could have chosen what He would of that which He hath created...

Your islamic deity allah has daughters

Quran 37:153 Muhammad Asad
“He has chosen daughters in preference to sons”

Quran 37:153 Wahiduddin Khan
Has He chosen daughters over sons


AND THE DAUGTHERS ARE:

Quran 53:19-21
Have you then considered Lat and ‘Uzza And another, the third, Manat Are the males for you and for Him the females

I always knew you are very slow but I don't know you are as slow as this.

Is this the brain you are using for your every day activities? or you are only pretending to be dumb?

DeepSight:
John 17:21 -

New Living Translation
I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me.

https://biblehub.com/john/17-21.htm

PS: I am not Muslim. I dont endorse any Abrahamic religion.

Read verse 23 it says


23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.


Did you understand the bolded?

Qasim6:
I always knew you are very slow but I don't know you are as slow as this.

Is this the brain you are using for your every day activities? or you are only pretending to be dumb?

Welcome my run away customer, here is the question you and your fellow slaves are avoiding to answer


Quran 10:94

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was)....


If Islam is strictly monotheist, who are the WE there?

You are free to insult your dad but mind you, I won't insult you yet so that you won't use that as an escaping route

AntiisIam:
Read chapter 23 it says


23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.


Did you understand the bolded?

Its very obvious he meant this metaphorically even by his own explanation. Otherwise he will not use the same words to describe the inity of his followers which he was praying for.

AntiisIam:
Welcome my run away customer, here is the question you and your fellow slaves are avoiding to answer


Quran 10:94

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was)....


If Islam is strictly monotheist, who are the WE there?

You are free to insult your dad but mind you, I won't insult you yet so that you won't use that as an escaping route

Plural of royalty or majestic plural.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we

DeepSight:
Plural of royalty or majestic plural.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we

The guy is a top notch fool. He has been asking the question for ages and he will keep asking the same question till he dies.

DeepSight:
Its very obvious he meant this metaphorically even by his own explanation. Otherwise he will not use the same words to describe the inity of his followers which he was praying for.

The context of John 10:30 is different from what is in John 17:21 you came with. I asked if you understand the bolded or not I will explain rather than confusing yourself with a simple sentence. If you have problem comprehending this, "I in them and you in me" tell me I'll help you out

Qasim6:
I always knew you are very slow but I don't know you are as slow as this.

Is this the brain you are using for your every day activities? or you are only pretending to be dumb?

AntiisIam:
Welcome my run away customer, here is the question you and your fellow slaves are avoiding to answer


Quran 10:94

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was)....


If Islam is strictly monotheist, who are the WE there?

You are free to insult your dad but mind you, I won't insult you yet so that you won't use that as an escaping route

Just keep regurgitating the same old gabbage, are u that dumb?

U r still asking about the WE in the Qur'an in 2024?

AntiisIam:
The context of John 10:30 is different from what is in John 17:21 you came with. I asked if you understand the bolded or not I will explain rather than confusing yourself with a simple sentence. If you have problem comprehending this, "I in them and you in me" tell me I'll help you out

I have no problems understanding that, it speaks for itself.
Unless you want to say it makes you Jesus, you cant say that he also meant he was God.

I gave 20 verses that make it clear he was not God and didnt consider himself so.
Have you addressed them?

DeepSight:
Plural of royalty or majestic plural.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we

Royal WE was introduced in 12th century I believed you could see that from the link you dropped?

Are you saying quran or allah came into existence after 12th century to have make used of Royal WE?

Qasim6:
Just keep regurgitating the same old gabbage, are u that dumb?

U r still asking about the WE in the Qur'an in 2024?

Go back, open the link you dropped and read the article gently. A portion there says to refer to themselves



Quran 10:94

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was)....


If Islam is strictly monotheist, who are the WE there, who are the partners of allah in Quran 10:94?

AntiisIam:
Go back read open the link you dropped and read the article gently. A portion there says to refer to themselves

Quran 10:94

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was)....

If Islam is strictly monotheist, who are the WE there, who are the partners of allah in Quran 10:94?

Is Allah not referring to Himself?

AntiChristian:
Is Allah not referring to Himself?

AGAIN

AntiisIam:
Go back, open the link you dropped and read the article gently. A portion there says to refer to themselves



Quran 10:94

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was)....


If Islam is strictly monotheist, who are the WE there, who are the partners of allah in Quran 10:94?

AntiisIam:
Royal WE was introduced in 12th century I believed you could see that from the link you dropped?

Are you saying quran or allah came into existence after 12th century to have make used of Royal WE?

Royal We has always been there, even before what is written in that page - it has many forms, and in this case we are looking at the Divine plural of majesty.

Go and attend to my 20 Verses. There is enough there to keep you busy for twenty years.

AntiisIam:
Royal WE was introduced in 12th century I believed you could see that from the link you dropped?

Are you saying quran or allah came into existence after 12th century to have make used of Royal WE?

Qasim6 AntiChristian who else again?

AntiisIam:
Royal WE was introduced in 12th century I believed you could see that from the link you dropped?

Are you saying quran or allah came into existence after 12th century to have make used of Royal WE?

Why are you slow like this?
But u be Omo Yoruba now

Yoruba language have something similar, we use plural of respect for elders and people that are older than us. Was that introduced in the 12th century?

Just because it was introduced into English or whatever language in the 12th century does that mean that was the first time it's used in human history?

Qasim6:
Why are you slow like this?
But u be Omo Yoruba now

Yoruba language have something similar, we used plural of respect for elders and people that are older than us. Was that introduced in the 12th century?

Just because it was introduced into English or whatever language in the 12th century does that mean that was the first time it's used in human history?

I don't wish to expose you further but if you dare me ehn...

Boy listen,

The English royal we, or pluralis majestatis, dates to the late twelfth century, around the time of Henry II and his successor Richard I.