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AntiisIam:
AGAIN

AntiisIam:
Qasim6 AntiChristian who else again?

Qasim6:
Why are you slow like this?
But u be Omo Yoruba now

Yoruba language have something similar, we used plural of respect for elders and people that are older than us. Was that introduced in the 12th century?

Just because it was introduced into English or whatever language in the 12th century does that mean that was the first time it's used in human history?

AntiisIam:
Quran 10:94

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was)....


If Islam is strictly monotheist, who are the WE there, who are the partners of allah in Quran 10:94?

AntiChristian:
Chai!

Arabic Grammar has it before English!

Please use your IQ on nairaland!

AntiChristian:


You are the only one seeing it through the Holy Spirit eye!

AntiChristian:
Chai!

Arabic Grammar has it before English!

Please use your IQ on nairaland!

AntiisIam:
Royal WE has to do with group of people from the below picture attached. The question is WHO ARE THE PARTNERS OF allah IN QURAN 10:94

DeepSight:
I have given you scripture. Try not to be the usual religionist who is content to ignore his scripture in favour of his dogma.

PS: Three entities making an appearance says nothing to suggest that Jesus is God, or even that God is triune.

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. 9Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

AntiChristian:
Chai!

Arabic Grammar has it before English!

Please use your IQ on nairaland!

AntiChristian:
Chai!

Arabic Grammar has it before English!

Please use your IQ on nairaland!

DeepSight:
Plural of royalty or majestic plural.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we

Qasim6:
Why are you slow like this?
But u be Omo Yoruba now

Yoruba language have something similar, we use plural of respect for elders and people that are older than us. Was that introduced in the 12th century?

Just because it was introduced into English or whatever language in the 12th century does that mean that was the first time it's used in human history?

AntiChristian:
Allah who holds the highest office ever is referring to Himself!

Kukutente23:
RightChannel and Antiislam

I guess we will patiently wait for Deepsight, Antichristian and Qasim6 to come forward with an example of royal We used for a King in Mecca or Muhammad's Quraysh tribe in pre-Islamic Arabia. I hope we won't have to wait for long....

RightChannel:
You again, what is the name of the king that used Royal We in pre-islamic Arabia period?

You are wallowing in darkness religion!

Kukutente23:
Can you show an example from pre-Islamic Arab where royal WE was used and which King used it especially from Muhammad's Qurays tribe?

You see, this is the confusion you guys live with in your dogmatic and blind religion. In the other thread, you were pointing out to me that there was no form of government in Mecca before Islam. Here you are referring to royal WE. How can Arabic language have a royal WE when it had no royalty?

AntiisIam:
But this is Royal WE written in English and not in Arabic grammar, hope you aren't dunce to this extent identifying the two

Kukutente23:
But Allah has spirit in quran now so what is the wrong thing in Holy spirit for an Islamist?

AntiisIam:
You are avoiding my question slave


If Islam is strictly monotheist, who are the WE there, who are the partners of allah in Quran 10:94?

AntiChristian:
That's your wahala to look for! Arabic and the Qur'an precedes English language!

Those well versed in the language understands it!

AntiChristian:
Where will you see that when the Qur'an is the first document in Islam?
Don't type thrash before thinking!

AntiChristian:
The Qur'an became the Book of grammar for the Arabs.

The Grammatical usage became known as royal We in English later!

You are the one wallowing in hell from earth!

Kukutente23:
Royal We is different from the Yoruba use of They or plural You for Elders as a symbol of respect. You are simply ignorant. An Elder in Yoruba cannot use the yoruba We to refer to himself in the first person. Royal We implies referring to oneself in the first person plural. The Yoruba use of plural for adults occurs in the 2nd person or third person plural pronouns not the first plural

AntiChristian:
The Qur'an became the Book of grammar for the Arabs.

The Grammatical usage became known as royal We in English later!

You are the one wallowing in hell from earth!

AntiChristian:
Show us the verse that states that Allah has (Possesses) spirit!

So when I have fashioned him and had a spirit of My Own ˹creation˺ breathed into him, fall down in prostration to him.”

˹through which˺ the angels and the ˹holy˺ spirit will ascend to Him on a Day fifty thousand years in length.

You will never find a people who ˹truly˺ believe in Allah and the Last Day loyal to those who defy Allah and His Messenger, even if they were their parents, children, siblings, or extended family. For those ˹believers˺, Allah has instilled faith in their hearts and strengthened them with a spirit from Him. He will admit them into Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there forever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. They are the party of Allah. Indeed, Allah’s party is bound to succeed.

AntiChristian:
That's your wahala to look for! Arabic and the Qur'an precedes English language!

Those well versed in the language understands it!

Kukutente23:
Taqqiyya So quran is now brigher grammar with Allah as the teacher How can quran become the book of grammar for Arabs when Arabic language existed before quran and was heavily influenced by other semitic languages

So Arab influenced English culture and language as well. What period was that and who were the influencers?

Islamist and taqiyya. They breath and live lies

AntiChristian:
The Qur'an became the Book of grammar for the Arabs.

The Grammatical usage became known as royal We in English later!

You are the one wallowing in hell from earth!

Qasim6:
I am not saying it is the same as Yoruba plural of respect. I said something similar, I was only pointing out how languages can differ.

Majestic plural is not something just peculiar with Arabic, but something in Semitic languages. Why do you think the word Elohim is not translated as Gods?

Kukutente23:
It is not similar. Kings in Europe who normalised the use of royal We believed they were an embodiment of the state and thus symbol of sovereignity. That is why Louis XIV famously said "L'etat moi" meaning "I am the state". It is different from Yoruba who use it to refer to respect based on age.
Majestic plural does not exist AT ALL in Arabic or Semitic languages. It is easy to see in that in the Bible for example, Over twenty Kings were recorded and none ever used "We" to refer to himself. Same with Egyptian Kings which is one of the oldest civilisation. No record of royal We in usage there. As Antiislam pointed out, the royal We is mostly used in Europe.
Elohim is plural for God. Eloha is the singular. The usage in the Bible is to differentiate God from other gods especially canaanite gods which are also referred to as Eloha. it is from Eloha that Ilah came out and then Allah. Elohim was just a truncated way of saying Lord of gods or Lord God. So you missed it totally.

Till now, none of you can give an example of royal We usage in pre-Islamic Arabia so you need to give another explanation for Allah's use of We to refer to himself that is based on fact and fidelity. This one no fly

Next!!

Kukutente23:
It is not similar. Kings in Europe who normalised the use of royal We believed they were an embodiment of the state and thus symbol of sovereignity. That is why Louis XIV famously said "L'etat moi" meaning "I am the state". It is different from Yoruba who use it to refer to respect based on age.
Majestic plural does not exist AT ALL in Arabic or Semitic languages. It is easy to see in that in the Bible for example, Over twenty Kings were recorded and none ever used "We" to refer to himself. Same with Egyptian Kings which is one of the oldest civilisation. No record of royal We in usage there. As Antiislam pointed out, the royal We is mostly used in Europe.
Elohim is plural for God. Eloha is the singular. The usage in the Bible is to differentiate God from other gods especially canaanite gods which are also referred to as Eloha. it is from Eloha that Ilah came out and then Allah. Elohim was just a truncated way of saying Lord of gods or Lord God. So you missed it totally.

Till now, none of you can give an example of royal We usage in pre-Islamic Arabia so you need to give another explanation for Allah's use of We to refer to himself that is based on fact and fidelity. This one no fly

Next!!