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HenryWilliams:
That is not true .
Nigeria has assets in foreign countries including cash..
Those will be appropriated first .
Then physical assets in the country in with the loan was tied to will be seized. Dividing the country won't stop creditors from coming in.
Once the violence starts , foreign power will come in to "stabilize" the region..as the soldiers roll in, so do the assessors to take over the natural resources like oil and so on
Nigeria will pay the loans complete and then some.

What assets exactly are most of the loans tied to?

Most of the loans are for recurrent expenditures, they are down the drain.

They can only take those in foreign countries.
As for any in Nigeria, otilo

casualobserver:
The irony is that the people who should fear a breakup the most are the people pushing for a breakup.

Everyday we hear about how they are present in every corner of Nigeria and somehow in their brains they don’t realize they will be sent packing? Is it the small geographical area they occupy they will sell their goods or feed themselves? Is it the land where they don’t sell land to even themselves they will find land to build properties?

Don’t worry about the Yorubas, we were fine before and we will be fine after. Instead of SW raking 270b a month from vat and keeping only N73b, worst case, it will rake only N140b but keep all its N140b. The SS will take N100b and keep its N100b. What will the SE do, for anll the talk of we” are business men” all the entire SE generates in a month is N8b in vat. Except you want to start charging VAT on drug trafficking?

The Ibos are the greatest beneficiaries of Nigeria but they complain the most.

Lol!
Keep lying to yourselves, maybe one day you will start believing your lies.
The greatest beneficiaries of Nigeria are those who get bitter, get full of hate, start gaslighting techniques, get brain discombobulation at the mention of Nigeria break up!
Ndiigbo are scattered all over Africa even in Central Africa Republic, you still find Igbos there.
We know fully well we will adjust and do better without Nigeria which is why we want her gone.
Those who know they wouldn't but want to gaslight others like you are doing are jokers.

Once Nigeria disintegrate, there wouldn't be any difference between Lagos and Cotonou or Lome.
Those your imaginary VATS will vanish as all man will go home to build their own countries.
Your elites know this, I believe even your commoners know that which is why your hearts becomes filled with bitterness at the mention of Nigeria disintegration.

pazienza:
Lol!
Keep lying to yourselves, maybe one day you will start believing your lies.
The greatest beneficiaries of Nigeria are those who get bitter, get full of hate, start gaslighting techniques, get brain discombobulation at the mention of Nigeria break up!
Ndiigbo are scattered all over Africa even in Central Africa Republic, you still find Igbos there.
We know fully well we will adjust and do better without Nigeria which is why we want her gone.
Those who know they wouldn't but want to gaslight others like you are doing are jokers.

Once Nigeria disintegrate, there wouldn't be any difference between Lagos and Cotonou or Lome.
Those your imaginary VATS will vanish as all man will go home to build their own countries.
Your elites know this, I believe even your commoners know that which is why your hearts becomes filled with bitterness at the mention of Nigeria disintegration.

Why are you all outside SE? Do you see any tribe earn a living outside the SE like the Ibos?

Nobody leaves the comfort and familiarity of his home to earn a living elsewhere if home has all you need to survive. People don’t japa to Canada and Europe because they like the cold and snow, they go because they can’t fulfill their potential at home.

pazienza:
Good.
Then let's stop using the name Biafra at all and focus more on projection of republic of Igboland (Alaigbo).
By doing this, we strip the minorities of their ego of importance 😁, we rally our people in SS and NC, and we become stronger too with no fifth columnists.
Because like our ancestors said: Izu Ka MMA na nne ji! .
I consider anyone speaking of Biafra with non Igbo speaking groups to be an enemy of Ndiigbo.
Ndewo

It's no body business if igbos decide to use Biafra or not... That's the identity Igbos have choosen anyone who doesn't like it should kpai themselves

casualobserver:
The irony is that the people who should fear a breakup the most are the people pushing for a breakup.

Everyday we hear about how they are present in every corner of Nigeria and somehow in their brains they don’t realize they will be sent packing? Is it the small geographical area they occupy they will sell their goods or feed themselves? Is it the land where they don’t sell land to even themselves they will find land to build properties?

Don’t worry about the Yorubas, we were fine before and we will be fine after. Instead of SW raking 270b a month from vat and keeping only N73b, worst case, it will rake only N140b but keep all its N140b. The SS will take N100b and keep its N100b. What will the SE do, for anll the talk of we” are business men” all the entire SE generates in a month is N8b in vat. Except you want to start charging VAT on drug trafficking?

The Ibos are the greatest beneficiaries of Nigeria but they complain the most.while it is true they are politically excluded, unfortunately that is of their own making and down to their attitude.

My brother the day Nigeria breaks up majority of non yorubas will leave the southwest and Lagos as a whole I hope you know this includes business and investors dont forget 90% of Lagos revenue comes from taxes on these businesses think deep southwest if they don't sit up will suffer severe hardship all creative people will survive.

casualobserver:
Why are you all outside SE? Do you see any tribe earn a living outside the SE like the Ibos?

Nobody leaves the comfort and familiarity of his home to earn a living elsewhere if home has all you need to survive. People don’t japa to Canada and Europe because they like the cold and snow, they go because they can’t fulfill their potential at home.

You are talking nonsense.
SE is the most densely populated region in Nigeria.
We have millions of our people back home and doing greatly.
SE top all SSCE statistics for the past decade!
Our home front is strong.
Buses leaving SE to other parts of Nigeria don't return empty, they carry our people there too back to SE!
Chinese people are everywhere, in USA, Europe, even in dead Nigerian villages, you see Chinese there.
The world is an Igbo man play ground, we will explore the world and bring back gains to Igboland.
We are adventurous in nature. That's who we are and the world will always belong to those who dare leave home to explore other climes.

Goodmarlian:
My brother the day Nigeria breaks up majority of non yorubas will leave the southwest and Lagos as a whole I hope you know this includes business and investors dont forget 90% of Lagos revenue comes from taxes on these businesses think deep southwest if they don't sit up will suffer severe hardship all creative people will survive.

You overate your importance. You think Lagos was not developed before the influx of ibos? You think yorubas were not engaged in spare parts before you came into the SW? What is business you do that cannot be replaced, selling spare parts, fake drugs and second hand clothes?

Don’t also forget any land you own in Nigeria is a 99yr lease and can be revoked at the discretion of the governor.


Let me explain to you how countries function, in a breakup, your elites will remain in Lagos because they add value and they need The SW especially Lagos, the parasites, the dross (people like you) will be expelled.

pazienza:
You are talking nonsense.
SE is the most densely populated region in Nigeria.
We have millions of our people back home and doing greatly.
SE top all SSCE statistics for the past decade!
Our home front is strong.
Buses leaving SE to other parts of Nigeria don't return empty, they carry our people there too back to SE!
Chinese people are everywhere, in USA, Europe, even in dead Nigerian villages, you see Chinese there.
The world is an Igbo man play ground, we will explore the world and bring back gains to Igboland.
We are adventurous in nature. That's who we are and the world will always belong to those who dare leave home to explore other climes.

You are doing greatly but you are the lowest VAT generating region in the country?

Abeg yeye Dey smell!

Every day you come you make noise, everyday you say invest in the SE, instead everyday you leave in bus loads.


Watch what a man does not what he says.


You that are posting I am sure you are not in the SE. I am Yoruba, I am in the SW. 90% of all tribes in Nigeria are in their zones only you are all over the place…why?

casualobserver:
You overate your importance. You think Lagos was not developed before the influx of ibos? You think yorubas were not engaged in spare parts before you came into the SW? What is business you do that cannot be replaced, selling spare parts, fake drugs and second hand clothes?

Don’t also forget any land you own in Nigeria is a 99yr lease and can be revoked at the discretion of the governor.


Let me explain to you how countries function, in a breakup, your elites will remain in Lagos because they add value and they need The SW especially Lagos, the parasites, the dross (people like you) will be expelled.

Why have Yorubas in Benin republic not developed Cotonou or your development prowess starts and ends in Lagos?

Lagos will not be any different from Cotonou and Lome once Nigeria is disintegrated and Lagos serves only Oduduwa republic!
Lagos is a beneficiary of monopoly of large Nigeria population!

Your elites know this.
Even you yourselves know this which is why you go green with bitterness, evil thoughts and hate filled machinations at the mention of Nigeria disintegration.

If at all you believe your deception that Lagos is better off without Nigeria, you will not be exhibiting the above actions at the mention of Nigeria disintegration.

pazienza:
Why have Yorubas in Benin republic not developed Cotonou or your development prowess starts and ends in Lagos?

Lagos will not be any different from Cotonou and Lome once Nigeria is disintegrated and Lagos serves only Oduduwa republic!
Lagos is a beneficiary of monopoly of large Nigeria population!

Your elites know this.
Even you yourselves know this which is why you go green with bitterness, evil thoughts and hate filled machinations at the mention of Nigeria disintegration.

If at all you believe your deception that Lagos is better off without Nigeria, you will not be exhibiting the above actions at the mention of Nigeria disintegration.

This matter is not hard. If you don’t need Nigeria, go and earn your living in the SE and let us suffer in the SW for not appreciating you.

Is it hard?

casualobserver:
You are doing greatly but you are the lowest VAT generating region in the country?

Abeg yeye Dey smell!

Every day you come you make noise, everyday you say invest in the SE, instead everyday you leave in bus loads.


Watch what a man does not what he says.


You that are posting I am sure you are not in the SE. I am Yoruba, I am in the SW. 90% of all tribes in Nigeria are in their zones only you are all over the place…why?

Exactly.
We are watching what Yoruba man does, not what he says.
Yoruba man resents Igbo!
Yoruba man claims to be generating billions in VAT that he must share with parasitic Igbo.

Yet at the mention of disintegration of Nigeria, an event that will enable the Yoruba man to booth Igbos out of Lagos and enjoy their VATS and IGR alone, the Yoruba man becomes filled with bile, bitterness, evil thoughts, gaslighting deception and other funny behaviours towards the Igbo!
The Yoruba man starts preaching to the same Igbo they resent on why the Igbo must stay united with Yoruba in Nigeria, nah so you love Igbos reach? Who is deceiving who?

I mean, your actions don't match your words. We know who is lying!

casualobserver:
You overate your importance. You think Lagos was not developed before the influx of ibos? You think yorubas were not engaged in spare parts before you came into the SW? What is business you do that cannot be replaced, selling spare parts, fake drugs and second hand clothes?

Don’t also forget any land you own in Nigeria is a 99yr lease and can be revoked at the discretion of the governor.


Let me explain to you how countries function, in a breakup, your elites will remain in Lagos because they add value and they need The SW especially Lagos, the parasites, the dross (people like you) will be expelled.

I desperately want to be expelled what are you waiting for? And what if the elites want to relocate will you force them to stay besides Lagos will become useless by then,hausas gone,igbos gone,calabars gone,tivs gone who will wants to do business in such an empty place with hungry agberos.

casualobserver:
This matter is not hard. If you don’t need Nigeria, go and earn your living in the SE and let us suffer in the SW for not appreciating you.

Is it hard?

Lol!
That's not how it works.
First we need to divide the country peacefully so that Igbos in SE will unite with Igbo clans indigenous in SS and NC and peaceful leave your Nigeria for you if you so wish.
It shouldn't be a thing of bitterness or gaslighting, unless ofcourse, you are not saying the truth, which is that you benefit most from the union and is pained by your impending loss should the union end!

Czechs and Slovaks both knew they were better off without the CzechSlovakia country, hence they sat on table and amicably divided into Czech Republic and Slovakia.
The bitterness and hate and unify forcing only comes in when parasitism exists and the true parasites are bitter at the lost of their host.

Think about it!

pazienza:
Exactly.
We are watching what Yoruba man does, not what he says.
Yoruba man resents Igbo!
Yoruba man claims to be generating billions in VAT that he must share with parasitic Igbo.

Yet at the mention of disintegration of Nigeria, an event that will enable the Yoruba man to booth Igbos out of Lagos and enjoy their VATS and IGR alone, the Yoruba man becomes filled with bile, bitterness, evil thoughts, gaslighting deception and other funny behaviours towards the Igbo!
The Yoruba man starts preaching to the same Igbo they resent on why the Igbo must stay united with Yoruba in Nigeria, nah so you love Igbos reach? Who is deceiving who?

I mean, your actions don't match your words. We know who is lying!

This is my last comment to you. We are not the ones holding you back. Sardauna and Awolow insisted on secession clause. Zik was the one who insisted on not including one and he managed to prevail. Even then Zik knew the ibos cannot survive without Nigeria.

If you want to prove you want Biafra, let your actions show that you really want Biafra but to the rest of us, the shouts for Biafra are merely a presidential political negotiation tactic that is designed to fail.

Good night.

pazienza:
Lol!
That's not how it works.
First we need to divide the country peacefully so that Igbos in SE will unite with Igbo clans indigenous in SS and NC and peaceful leave your Nigeria for you if you so wish.
It shouldn't be a thing of bitterness or gaslighting, unless ofcourse, you are not saying the truth, which is that you benefit most from the union and is pained by your impending loss should the union end!

Czechs and Slovaks both knew they were better off without the CzechSlovakia country, hence they sat on table and amicably divided into Czech Republic and Slovakia.
The bitterness and hate only comes in when parasitism exists and the true parasites are bitter at the lost of their host.

Think about it!

Abeg go and rest, you have turned yourselves into a laughing stock. Nobody take you seriously.

Goodmarlian:
I desperately want to be expelled what are you waiting for? And what if the elites want to relocate will you force them to stay besides Lagos will become useless by then,hausas gone,igbos gone,calabars gone,tivs gone who will wants to do business in such an empty place with hungry agberos.

Can you not go home on your own? Do you need to be expelled if that is what you truly want? We have seen through your BS that is why Kanu is in prison and nothing will happen, that is why Ekpa will be imprisoned and nothing will happen, that is why presidency will elude you and nothing will happen.

casualobserver:
This is my last comment to you. We are not the ones holding you back. Sardauna and Awolow insisted on secession clause. Zik was the one who insisted on not including one and he managed to prevail. Even then Zik knew the ibos cannot survive without Nigeria.

If you want to prove you want Biafra, let your actions show that you really want Biafra but to the rest of us, the shouts for Biafra are merely a presidential political negotiation tactic that is designed to fail.

Good night.

The old usual Yoruba gaslighting!

Awolowo had opportunity to booth the Igbos off the union in 1966 like Malaysia did to Singapore, but he instead used all devilish tricks to keep Igbo in the Union against their wish! Awolowo words of wanting Independent Yoruba nation didn't match his actions when the opportunity presented in 1966-70, so we know who is lying once again.

Igbos are not the once forcing Nigeria unity and going green with bitterness at the mention of Nigeria disintegration, it's the Yoruba and North that are doing that. Why? Because the both groups know or atleast believe that they are better off in Nigeria, which means they are beneficiaries of Nigeria unity.
Ndiigbo on the other hand believe they are better off without Nigeria since 1970.
Actions speaks better than words bro.

casualobserver:
Abeg go and rest, you have turned yourselves into a laughing stock. Nobody take you seriously.

You all are obsessed with the Igbo nation nah.
Tinubu has already showed us what Yorubas are capable of doing.
I think if anyone is the laughing stock now, we know who that is.
Ndiigbo have paid our dues. We stand firmly in our resolve to pursue a nationhood without the baggage of Yoruba and North and even non Igbo minorities.
We yearn to be independent and pursue our own future without you lots!
How is this a crime? Why the bitterness resentment, shouldn't you be glad to get Igbos out of your beloved Nigeria like Malaysians were to finally booth the Singaporeans out of the defunct Malay federation?

casualobserver:
Can you not go home on your own? Do you need to be expelled if that is what you truly want? We have seen through your BS that is why Kanu is in prison and nothing will happen, that is why Ekpa will be imprisoned and nothing will happen, that is why presidency will elude you and nothing will happen.

You are just beating round the bush
Bye

I may not know who will pay, but I'm damn sure I will be one of those who will oppose allowing the Igbos to pay for loans taken & used by idiots and their cronies for them and their lustful lifestyle.

pazienza:
The old usual Yoruba gaslighting!

Awolowo had opportunity to booth the Igbos off the union in 1966 like Malaysia did to Singapore, but he instead used all devilish tricks to keep Igbo in the Union against their wish! Awolowo words of wanting Independent Yoruba nation didn't match his actions when the opportunity presented in 1966-70, so we know who is lying once again.

Igbos are not the once forcing Nigeria unity and going green with bitterness at the mention of Nigeria disintegration, it's the Yoruba and North that are doing that. Why? Because the both groups know or atleast believe that they are better off in Nigeria, which means they are beneficiaries of Nigeria unity.
Ndiigbo on the other hand believe they are better off without Nigeria since 1970.
Actions speaks better than words bro.

Let me explain this thing to you. The SW region is capable of standing on its own and indeed was the fastest developing region in he world when we had federating units. Awolowo has always been in favour of autonomy and has famously said Nigeria is a mere geographical expression. Ofcourse membership of a bigger country has benefits but being part of Nigeria has been but an albatross to the Sw since the unification which by the way was done by Ironsi.


We are not afraid of break up, we do not seek it but if it happens we will be fine, in fact not just be fine, we will explode, in fact we as well as the Ss will be the biggest beneficiaries. However it is the ibos that have checkmated us all in this union called Nigeria and they make the most noise.

Awolowo is not the reason you are stuck in Nigeria, look towards Zik. Awolowo is not the reason we all lost 50% control of our resources, look towards ironsi. Awolowo is not the reason we have states and not independent regions, look towards the reactions necessitated by Ojukwu and his misadventures. Awolowo is not the reason the presidency eludes you, look towards Ifeajina, Ojukwu, Ironsi, Kanu, Ekpa etc.

Look at the theme running through everything I said….you are the architects of your perceived misfortunes. Your biggest problem is you don’t know how to coexist peacefully with others and that’s why you’ve lost trust. Despite that you are still the biggest beneficiaries of Nigeria. Secondly you are always shortsighted politically so you engage in moves ( be it secession clause, 1966 coup, civil war, IPOB insulting northerners, insulting yorubas etc) that backfire on you and leave you worse that you were before. Every time the ibo makes a political move, he sets himself back and then doubles down and makes his situation worse. The ibo man today has less chance of becoming president of Nigeria than he ever did.

All this Biafra talk is all about the presidency, if it were genuinely about leaving Nigeria, you would all be moving home and not buying and building homes in regions you claim you want to leave. We cannot and will not be gaslighted into an ibo presidency on the back of threats of breakup and insults. The more you do the more we withhold our votes. You are the ones trying to gaslight us but we have seen through you and called your bluff….do your worst! Heaven will not fall, no one is voting for a president or a tribe who supports secession and insults every other tribe. I am for one Nigeria, all this talk of break up are just the rankings of a deluded bunch, we are well past that. You are the ones who put us in this position, you will pay the price and suffer for you misdeed just like we have been suffereing the consequences of your misdeeds and misadventures. But that presidency….don’t hold your breath.

Finally let me say this. Every region of Nigeria is self sufficient (the SE will prosper but a significant number of ibos will need to leave their enclave to eek a living) , the people who fear the breakup of Nigeria the most are the north not the yorubas and let me educate you why? [b][/b]After the killing of Sardauna (by the ibos), the North has not really had true leadership. Think about it, Buhari is the closest they have had. The north is not as united as we tend to think and there are many different factions in the North. The fear of the North and why they tolerate your nonsense and don’t allow you to go with your N8B a month VAT is because they fear that the North will be Balkanized. This is the real reason the North tolerates all the noise from the SE. but they have you where they want you, they will not give you the presidency you crave but thanks to your leaders you are stuck. It is your killing of the Sardauna and them not having a natural successor that is haunting you. Nothing to do with yorubas or Awolowo. If you know where we were in 1966 and where we are today, we have paid a severe price for this union. Unlike you we don’t engage in fruitless battles, we make the best of the supituation that is why the SW in spite of everything is the best performing region. It will always be, within Nigeria or on its own. That why you troop here in droves to eek a living.

I have always believed that rather than fear the exit of the SE and consequential balkanisation of the North, the North should allow a referendum and secession, I say call their blufff!, They are making noise and not letting us have peace because they know there is no referendum or possibility of secession. If you give them the option and they realize what they will lose, they will all borrow themselves some brain cells. Like I said the ibos benefit from Nigeria more than any other tribe. Give them the referendum, call their blufff and let us have peace!

Bigkoko:
I may not know who will pay, but I'm damn sure I will be one of those who will oppose allowing the Igbos to pay for loans taken & used by idiots and their cronies for them and their lustful lifestyle.

We will chest our own portion and pay it off easily.
We are prudent wealth and debt managers, especially when we have our best brains with core Igbo characteristics at the helm of affairs and not criminals foisted on us by dead Nigerian political systems that are only Igbos by name.

casualobserver:
Let me explain this thing to you. The SW region is capable of standing on its own and indeed was the fastest developing region in he world when we had federating units. Awolowo has always been in favour of autonomy and has famously said Nigeria is a mere geographical expression. Ofcourse membership of a bigger country has benefits but being part of Nigeria has been but an albatross to the Sw since the unification which by the way was done by Ironsi.


We are not afraid of break up, we do not seek it but if it happens we will be fine, in fact not just be fine, we will explode, in fact we as well as the Ss will be the biggest beneficiaries. However it is the ibos that have checkmated us all in this union called Nigeria and they make the most noise.

Awolowo is not the reason you are stuck in Nigeria, look towards Zik. Awolowo is not the reason we all lost 50% control of our resources, look towards ironsi. Awolowo is not the reason we have states and not independent regions, look towards Ojukwu and his misadventures. Awolowo is not the reason the presidency eludes you, look towards Ifeajina, Ojukwu, Ironsi, Kanu, Ekpa etc.

Look at the theme running through everything I said….you are the architects of your perceived misfortunes. Your biggest problem is you don’t know how to coexist peacefully with others and that’s why you’ve lost trust. Despite that you are still the biggest beneficiaries of Nigeria. Secondly you are always shortsighted politically so you engage in moves ( be it secession clause, 1966 coup, civil war, IPOB insulting northerners, insulting yorubas etc) that backfire on you and leave you worse that you were before. Every time the ibo makes a political move, he sets himself back and then doubles down and makes his situation worse. The ibo man today has less chance of becoming president of Nigeria than he ever did.

All this Biafra talk is all about the presidency, if it were genuinely about leaving Nigeria, you would all be moving home and not buying and building homes in regions you claim you want to leave. We cannot and will not be gaslighted into an ibo presidency on the back of threats of breakup and insults. The more you do the more we withhold our votes. You are the ones trying to gaslight us but we have seen through you and called your bluff….do your worst! Heaven will not fall, no one is voting for a president or a tribe who supports secession and insults every other tribe. I am for one Nigeria, all this talk of break up are just the rankings of a deluded bunch, we are well past that. You are the ones who put us in this position, you will pay the price and suffer for you misdeed just like we have been suffereing the consequences of your misdeeds and misadventures. But that presidency….don’t hold your breath.

Finally let me say this. Every region of Nigeria is self sufficient (only the ibos need to leave their enclave to eek a living) , the people who fear the breakup of Nigeria the most are the north not the yorubas and let me educate you why? After the killing of Sardauna (by the ibos), the North has not really had true leadership. Think about it, Buhari is the closest they have had. The north is not as united as we tend to think and there are many different factions in the North. The fear of the North and why they tolerate your nonsense and don’t allow you to go with your N8B a month VAT is because they fear that the. Roth will be Balkanized. This is the real reason the North tolerates all the noise from the SE. but they have you where they want you, they will not give you the presidency you crave but thanks to your leaders you are stuck. Nothing to do with yorubas or Awolowo. If you know where we were in 1966 and where we are today, we have paid a severe price for this union. Unlike you we don’t engage in fruitless battles, we make the best of the supituation that is why the SW in spite of everything is the best performing region. It will always be, within Nigeria or on its own. That why you troop here in droves to eek a living.

Facts on ground disagree with your above vituperations.
SW was never the fastest growing region in Nigeria before the war, Eastern region anchored by the Igbo who are prudent resources managers were, and I have facts to back this up, I will post it later. It just goes to show how you Yorubas love to make up your own lies and live in your self deception.

I have been in NL since 2006. No other Nigerian group goes green with bitterness and hate like the Yorubas does at the mention of Igbo independence from Nigeria.
Actions like I say speak louder than words! Only the North elites are scared of Igbo independence as they know they will lose, the poor northern commoners have gained nothing from Nigeria and don't really care about Nigeria disintegration. But in Yoruba land, both the commoners and the elites are United in bitterness at the mention of Igbo exit because they know they will lose.

Lagos is not better than Lome or Cotonou, it's Nigerian lopsided post civil war economic policies and population that make Lagos what it is.
If you say otherwise, why doesn't Ogun, Osun, Ondo, Etc look like Lagos
Lagos will shrink to Lome and Cotonou level when Nigeria disintegrate and all ethnicities return home to build their own countries.
The Port in Lagos will serve only Oduduwa, the embassies as well, the company headquarters will downsize too as they have to open new headquarters in the capital cities of the new countries if they hope to operate there.
The job loss will be massive, the real estate will plummet.
You all know this, your actions show that too, but your usual lying tongues claim otherwise but no one is deceived.

And as usual you attempted to rope SS into the discussion.
Well I'm not an IPOB and only care about Igbo Indigenous part of SS.
SS to me is a mini Nigeria and will have same issues as Nigeria should they remain as a single country without ofcourse Igbo communities there.
But that's their headache not mine.

No Igbo man actually is obsessed with Nigerian presidency. We just want the best man and quality political leadership at the helms which unfortunately isn't possible with Yorubas and the North as has been proven since 2015.
Your SW states outside Lagos isn't better in any metrics of measurement of human development or quality of living than SE states, so I don't know how producing Nigerian presidency in OBJ and now Tinubu has helped you lots or placed your commoners at better economic standing than Igbo commoners.

aul Anber's essay "Modernization and Political Disintegration: Nigeria and the Ibos" published in the journal of Modern African Studies vol. 5, No 2 (Sep, 1967) 163-179. See pp 171-172 for excerpt:


" '' A system of Universal primary education was introduced in Eastern Nigeria in 1953, though the mission schools had already prospered in the Region long before then. Despite the fact that there was a requirement for limited contributory fees, education continued to be very much in demand. Even at the time when universal primary education was first introduced, the percentage of the population over seven years of age who were literate was higher in the East than in any other Region: East, 10.6 per cent; West 9.5 percent; North, 0.9 percent. Since 1959, the East has had more teachers and pupils than any other area of the country, with the heaviest emphasis on primary education.

Figures for elementary and secondary education indicate that the approximate ratio of teachers to population in 1963 was 1 to every 1,500 in the East, 1 to every 2,500 in th West, and 1 for every 10,000 in the north. Other statistical data reveal how rapidly the standard of living rose among Ibos. The East had the most extensive hospital facilities in the country by 1965, the largest regional production of electricity in the country by 1954, and the greatest number of vehicle registrations by 1963. The economic orientation of the Ibos was also reflected through membership of credit associations:in 1963 the East had 68,220 individual members, the west 5,776, and the north a mere 2,407." ''... His source was the Annual Abstract of Statistics ( Federal Office of Statistics, Lagos, 1965

See the thread on Igbo high living standard and economic development and growth before the civil war.
At no point in time were your SW our mates.

Nigerian unity just gave you all shoulders to be thinking you are on same wavelength with the Igbo.
We are not same people and will never be!

https://www.nairaland.com/6584993/high-standard-living-igbos-before

pazienza:
Facts on ground disagree with your above vituperations.
SW was never the fastest growing region in Nigeria before the war, Eastern region anchored by the Igbo who are prudent resources managers were, and I have facts to back this up, I will post it later. It just goes to show how you Yorubas love to make up your own lies and live in your self deception.

I have been in NL since 2006. No other Nigerian group goes green with bitterness and hate like the Yorubas does at the mention of Igbo independence from Nigeria.
Actions like I say speak louder than words! Only the North elites are scared of Igbo independence as they know they will lose, the poor northern commoners have gained nothing from Nigeria and don't really care about Nigeria disintegration. But in Yoruba land, both the commoners and the elites are United in bitterness at the mention of Igbo exit because they know they will lose.

Lagos is not better than Lome or Cotonou, it's Nigerian lopsided post civil war economic policies and population that make Lagos what it is.
If you say otherwise, why doesn't Ogun, Osun, Ondo, Etc look like Lagos
Lagos will shrink to Lome and Cotonou level when Nigeria disintegrate and all ethnicities return home to build their own countries.
The Port in Lagos will serve only Oduduwa, the embassies as well, the company headquarters will downsize too as they have to open new headquarters in the capital cities of the new countries if they hope to operate there.
The job loss will be massive, the real estate will plummet.
You all know this, your actions show that too, but your usual lying tongues claim otherwise but no one is deceived.

And as usual you attempted to rope SS into the discussion.
Well I'm not an IPOB and only care about Igbo Indigenous part of SS.
SS to me is a mini Nigeria and will have same issues as Nigeria should they remain as a single country without ofcourse Igbo communities there.
But that's their headache not mine.

No Igbo man actually is obsessed with Nigerian presidency. We just want the best man and quality political leadership at the helms which unfortunately isn't possible with Yorubas and the North as has been proven since 2015.
Your SW states outside Lagos isn't better in any metrics of measurement of human development or quality of living than SE states, so I don't know how producing Nigerian presidency in OBJ and now Tinubu has helped you lots or placed your commoners at better economic standing than Igbo commoners.

You are not getting Biafra and you are not getting the presidency. We are all paying for the sins of your fathers and your children will pay for the sins you commit today if you don’t change your ways. So I suggest you continue to enjoy the benefits Nigeria affords you like being able to have a market of 250m people and able to buy and own property in other peoples land. The day you realize the misadventures of your past leaders is what got you here is the day maybe you will realize what you are doing today will be paid for by your children.

Everything else is just noise!

"He that is dead is free from sin" (Rom6:7).

casualobserver:
You are not getting Biafra and you are not getting the presidency. We are all paying for the sins of your fathers and your children will pay for the sins you commit today if you don’t change your ways. So I suggest you continue to enjoy the benefits Nigeria affords you like being able to have a market of 250m people and able to buy and own property in other peoples land. The day you realize the misadventures of your past leaders is what got you here is the day maybe you will realize what you are doing today will be paid for by your children.

Everything else is just noise!

Nigeria will disintegrate sooner or later.
There is no two ways about it.
No Nation ever thrived on injustice and forced unity.
Nigeria will get poorer, weaker and a burden to all associated with it, until it disintegrates.
Your Yoruba children are already paying for the sins of Awolowo and currently for those of Tinubu.
It will only get worse.
You can't keep a man on the floor without staying in the floor with him, this has been the case of Nigeria and Ndiigbo since 1970!

The 2025 ballon d'or goes to:

Pazienza

pazienza:
Nigeria will disintegrate sooner or later.
There is no two ways about it.
No Nation ever thrived on injustice and forced unity.
Nigeria will get poorer, weaker and a burden to all associated with it, until it disintegrates.
Your Yoruba children are already paying for the sins of Awolowo and currently for those of Tinubu.
It will only get worse.
You can't keep a man on the floor without staying in the floor with him, this has been the case of Nigeria and Ndiigbo since 1970!

When you were doing forced unity with no secession clause and unification decree, you didn’t know? You thought it would benefit you, when it backfired on you you are now wailing?

Until then get out of here we are tired of your nonsense. You are never happy until you control everybody, Sardauna said it and he is right. The thing is you are not strategic enough to execute such a plan so it always backfired and leaves you worse that you were.

Nobody takes you seriously anymore, you are seen as a joke.

pazienza:
Lol!
Keep lying to yourselves, maybe one day you will start believing your lies.
The greatest beneficiaries of Nigeria are those who get bitter, get full of hate, start gaslighting techniques, get brain discombobulation at the mention of Nigeria break up!
Ndiigbo are scattered all over Africa even in Central Africa Republic, you still find Igbos there.
We know fully well we will adjust and do better without Nigeria which is why we want her gone.
Those who know they wouldn't but want to gaslight others like you are doing are jokers.

Once Nigeria disintegrate, there wouldn't be any difference between Lagos and Cotonou or Lome.
Those your imaginary VATS will vanish as all man will go home to build their own countries.
Your elites know this, I believe even your commoners know that which is why your hearts becomes filled with bitterness at the mention of Nigeria disintegration.

SO WHY DON’T YOU PACK AND GO TO CONGO NOW?

WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN LAGOS AND KANO IN YOUR MILLIONS?

YOU DON’T NEED ANYBODY TO BREAK NIGERIA BEFORE YOU CAN VOTE WITH YOUR FEET AND GO BACK TO THE EAST AND THE REST OF YOU SETTLE IN CONGO AND MALAWI AND CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC.

IDIOTS.

STUPID THINGS WITH NO BRAINS.

DISTURBING PEOPLE EVERYDAY YET YOU ARE IN THEIR REGION EATING THEIR FOOD AND BUILDING HOUSES ON THEIR LANDS.

PACK YOUR STUFF AND GET OUT OF THOSE PLACES AND GO HOME, OR WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GO!

THE OTHER DAY AREWA YOUTHS GAVE YOU 1 WEEK TO LEAVE THE NORTH, AND OHANEZE WENT THERE TO BEG FOR MERCY.

WHY ARE YOU BEGGING TO REMAIN THERE IF YOU WANT SECESSION?

YOU ARE LUCKY I AM NOT THE PRESIDENT. I WOULD DRIVE ALL OF YOU BACK TO THAT YOUR PARADISE IN THE EAST AND BUILD A WALL BLOCKING YOU FROM ENTRY INTO NIGERIA.

UNGRATEFUL DEMONS.

TELL ME ANYWHERE ELSE ON EARTH WHERE THE PEOPLE ALLOW TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE OF ANOTHER ETHNICITY TO SETTLE ON THEIR LANDS PEACEFULLY WITH NO COMPLAINTS.

YET ALL THEY RECEIVE FROM YOU DEVILS IS HATRED AND SPITE.

WORTHLESS THINGS.

YOU ARE SO LUCKY NIGERIA IS RULED BY GENTLEMEN LIKE TINUBU AND CO.

WHAT WE NEED IS A NO-NONSENSE DICTATOR THAT WILL HANDLE YOU TRAITOROUS INGRATES THE RIGHT WAY.

RUBBISH!

casualobserver:
When you were doing forced unity with no secession clause and unification decree, you didn’t know? You thought it would benefit you, when it backfired on you you are now wailing?

Until then get out of here we are tired of your nonsense. You are never happy until you control everybody, Sardauna said it and he is right. The thing is you are not strategic enough to execute such a plan so it always backfired and leaves you worse that you were.

Nobody takes you seriously anymore, you are seen as a joke.

How exactly did Zik force unity on you?
Because he argued there shouldn't be secession clause?
Did he use military to force it on Awolowo?
When Awolowo had the chance to lead Yoruba secession in 1966, what did he do?
Like I told you, actions will always speak louder than words.
Ndiigbo thought Nigeria stood a chance of greatness at the beginning.
But we quickly discovered Nigeria is doomed and our prediction has been spot on since then. Nigeria will only get worse.
The only joke is Yorubas.
Through Tinubu, you have shown the world how inept you are as a people in wealth creation and debt management.
OBJ know you lots well which is why he surrounded himself with Igbo top brains as ministers.
You are a joke. Tinubu will continue exposing you all for how hollow you are.
You have no business with leading a modern nation.
Ndiigbo deserve and will get better than a Nigeria with Yorubas and the North.