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achorladey:
Year 2020

achorladey:
The Jesus in your Bible is not perfect don't ask me the when in the Bible it was stated so

So why jump into the discussion if you are only coming to yarn off point?

Please let me know whenever you're ready to talk on point .

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

Thanks for your time!

MaxInDHouse:
Please mention one perfect man in the Bible!

Abel the righteous,

Enoch who didn't see death

MaxInDHouse:
So why jump into the discussion if you are only coming to yarn off point?

Please let me know whenever you're ready to talk on point .



Thanks for your time!

That's what those Pharisees say to Jesus when their lies and manipulations packed into their brains get exposed

You need evidence for that too as I exposed your lies and manipulations about God's people are have not taking the good news worldwide

Please let me know whenever you're ready to talk on point .

Runaway as usual, you are responding to my "talk"

Thanks for your time

Signature for you running away as usual when caught in your web of lies and manipulations

Captain4Jehovah:
Abel the righteous,
Enoch who didn't see death.

OK, you don't even know the meaning of that word "PERFECT"
Well let me help you.
Is there any human who lived throughout his life without a sin?

For your information this is what Jesus Christ himself said regarding perfection in the sight of God.

"Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is" Matthew 11:11

Please were Abel and Enoch born of women?

Did they lived before or after John the baptist?

According to Jesus even John the baptist is not perfect like Born Again Christians whose part in God's Kingdom is to dwell in heaven and the Born Again brothers of Christ were selected after the early Christians were baptized with the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.

So if we are to talk about perfection it could only be possible after the baptism by God's Holy Spirit without which no one can put on the New Personality {Ephesians 4:22-24} and according to Paul and James (Jesus' brother) nobody is perfect! Romans 7:15-25; James 3:2

achorladey:
Let him go to his thread and bring it here. Where in the Bible did they get the 1914 date? His lying and manipulating brains still asking for dates. Who taught him 1914. That's the height of his delusion.

he cowardly runs away from truth, and replies with confused babble

and dummy tries to convince us who have half a brain, that making the Holy Spirit out to be a liar isn't sinning against the Holy Spirit,
that's how dum he is

achorladey:
Running helter skelter as usual. He is even using the word rapture

he has a spirit of fear

achorladey:
Awon masters of telling us what is literal and figurative

it's amazing how much of God's word they don't believe,
and they turn literal to figurative etc. to support their false beliefs

MaxinDHouse: Every eyes here doesn't mean the literal eyes rather seeing what Jesus stood for through the activities of his (real) disciples on earth.

they are seeing like lightning shines from the east to the west what Jesus stood for through the activities of his
(real) disciples on earth

he is like that all over the place, talk about false teachers

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly what Satan designed to piss you off from identifying the true Christian group!

lost false jw mad max

and from the other side of your mouth you say, referring to your group;
"A city set on a hill cannot be hidden"

you people are just full of bull, all those lies and contradictions that come out of your head are of course from the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Kobojunkie:
But here's the obvious problem with the interpretation he gave you, lighting cannot be seen everywhere. If I am in the Humboldt Park area of Chicago for example, and lightning strikes in the Irving park area of the same Chicago, or even somewhere up in somewhere in Harwood, chances are almost 100% that I will not see it, even if at night.

oh duh, Jesus isn't lightning, He comes like lightning "shining" and "travelling east to west"

Mat_24:27  "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.

johnw47:
➜oh duh, Jesus isn't lightning, He comes like lightning "shining" and "travelling east to west" Mat_24:27  "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.

...

Petalss:
See how interpreting the phrase "every eye shall see him," is literally explained by johnw47 and he cite Matthew 24:27, which states, "For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man."

Petalss, after pointing out in my previous response how his literal explanation of that verse— an interpretation/explanation which completely ignored every else spoken by the same Jesus Christ in the same context — is not to be trusted, you see he is now having to back-track on what you had previously asserted of his explanation — he is now contradicting the former claim made by you of how his explanation was literal. 😂😂😂😂😂

Kobojunkie:
... Petalss, after pointing in my previous response how quickly his literal explanation of that verse— an interpretation/explanation which completely ignored every else spoken by the same Jesus Christ in the same context — you see he is now having to back track on what you had previously asserted of his explanation — he is now contradicting the former claim made by you of how his explanation was literal. 😂😂😂😂😂

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


truly dum dum, Jesus isn't lightning, He comes like lightning "shining" and "travelling east to west"

Mat_24:27  "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.

MaxInDHouse:
Please mention one perfect man in the Bible!

lost false jw mad max

Jesus is one perfect man in the Bible, He never sinned, He never even had original sin, He obeyed His Father completely,
He is just like His Father.
those to mention just a few are qualifications for being a perfect man.

but of course you false jw say He is a deceiver, that He deceived thomas,
but then again you also say that Yahovah is not all knowing, and that Yahovah is not Almighty,
and you blaspheme the Holy Spirit, etc. etc. etc. you know nothing about being perfect

but false jw, you go on preaching that Jesus wasn't perfect, and that Yahovah isn't all knowing and Almighty etc.

Mat_10:33  "But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.

achorladey:
No be the same religious organization told members can believe the lie to preserve unity at all cost

Lies + jw = Satan

Dtruthspeaker:
See how you prove that, jws are devils in pretendng at your pleasure not to know bible again.

Not surprising after all you people even believe that it is right to Lie

https://www.nairaland.com/7822145/jws-believe-it-right-lie#125455243

God mentioned 3 perfect man, Noah, Daniel, Job

amazing, so called Jehovah's witnesses teaching it's ok to lie

a bit from that article:

The Watchtower Society has a history of lying, not only to outsiders, but to its own members! Is this Christian or Pagan? The Society tries to make it Christian by calling it “justified lying.” This doctrine is still in place down to our day.

We have just considered an example where they denied writing a biography of Charles Russell, but really wrote three. This doesn’t fit their definition of “justified lying” which is also called “theocratic war strategy.” Justified lying is defined by them as follows: “As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise added caution when dealing with God’s foes. Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the interests of God’s cause, it is proper to hide the truth from God’s enemies….” (Watchtower, June 1/60 p. 352)

The trouble is, not only does the Society lie to outsiders, they regularly lie to their own members! We will consider more of this practice of lying later, but cannot help but quote Revelation 22:15, “Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices lying.”

MaxInDHouse:
Always calling everyone devil for having faith that differs from your self-centered thinking.

Just quote where it's written.
Thanks!

See more proof jws are devils and atheists.
https://www.nairaland.com/7841175/jws-actually-atheists-bibles

See how you lie just like an atheis. And an atheist is a devil

Continue pretendng jw devil not to know what the bible says.again.

Job 1
1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God,....

Genesis 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God

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achorladey:
The Jesus in your Bible is not perfect don't ask me the when in the Bible it was stated so

challengeing to mention one perfect man in the Bible
is implying there is none, which includes Jesus

but then mad max also teaches that Yahovah is not all knowing and not Almighty, as well

he is such a denier of Father and Son,
and he thinks giving credit to the Holy Spirit for lies isn't speaking against the Holy Spirit - none can be more blinded

1Jn_2:23  Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father;

Dtruthspeaker:
See more proof jws are devils and atheists.
https://www.nairaland.com/7841175/jws-actually-atheists-bibles
See how you lie just like an atheis. And an atheist is a devil
Continue pretendng jw devil not to know what the bible says.again.
Job 1
1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God,....

Genesis 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God

Oh i forgot your KJV used wrong words!

So if Noah and Job were PERFECT before God then how come Jesus said:

"Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is" Matthew 11:11

Perhaps you people don't understand what Paul meant when he wrote:

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23

So if there are PERFECT humans then of what need is Jesus to set the model for all mankind? John 3:16

Perhaps Noah and Job don't need the blood of Jesus to be saved from their sins:

That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned. Romans 5:12

MaxInDHouse:
Oh i forgot your KJV used wrong words!

So if Noah and Job were PERFECT before God then how come Jesus said:

"Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is" Matthew 11:11

Aha! Another thing devils have in common is that they are often mad.

How can you use "greater than"
to .compare with "perfect"?
The very example of using pineapple to compare with jollof rice .

Man, you devils are mad

johnw47:
amazing, so called Jehovah's witnesses teaching it's ok to lie

a bit from that article:

The Watchtower Society has a history of lying, not only to outsiders, but to its own members! Is this Christian or Pagan? The Society tries to make it Christian by calling it “justified lying.” This doctrine is still in place down to our day.

We have just considered an example where they denied writing a biography of Charles Russell, but really wrote three. This doesn’t fit their definition of “justified lying” which is also called “theocratic war strategy.” Justified lying is defined by them as follows: “As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise added caution when dealing with God’s foes. Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the interests of God’s cause, it is proper to hide the truth from God’s enemies….” (Watchtower, June 1/60 p. 352)

The trouble is, not only does the Society lie to outsiders, they regularly lie to their own members! We will consider more of this practice of lying later, but cannot help but quote Revelation 22:15, “Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices lying.”

Na so ooh. You know that i got this article in those days when this Max would directly lie even in the face of clear and established Truth that he himself had upheld that i began to suspect that he lies because his cult told him to. Which was why I not went digging and I found this article.

See the rubbish he just got did up above. We are talking about "perfect" and devil tried turning it around to "greater than". Clearly, he is mad

johnw47:
challengeing to mention one perfect man in the Bible
is implying there is none, which includes Jesus

but then mad max also teaches that Yahovah is not all knowing and not Almighty, as well

he is such a denier of Father and Son,
and he thinks giving credit to the Holy Spirit for lies isn't speaking against the Holy Spirit - none can be more blinded

1Jn_2:23  Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father;

His boastfulness won't make him readily admit the world don't revolve round his religious organization

Dtruthspeaker:
Aha! Another thing devils have in common is that they are often mad.

How can you use "greater than"
to .compare with "perfect"?
The very example of using pineapple to compare with jollof rice .

Man, you devils are mad

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

I see him as one who can define terms and redefine terms to suit his lies and manipulations

johnw47:
he has a spirit of fear

Fear of men packing lies and manipulations into his brains

johnw47:
he cowardly runs away from truth, and replies with confused babble

and dummy tries to convince us who have half a brain, that making the Holy Spirit out to be a liar isn't sinning against the Holy Spirit,
that's how dum he is

His numerous lies regarding the Holy spirit are well documented here

achorladey:
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

I see him as one who can define terms and redefine terms to suit his lies and manipulations

Exactly what Satan does.

Dtruthspeaker:
Aha! Another thing devils have in common is that they are often mad.

How can you use "greater than"
to .compare with "perfect"?
The very example of using pineapple to compare with jollof rice .

Man, you devils are mad

Who is not mad to you?
Kumuyi, Adeboye, Olukoya, Oyedepo, Mouka, Oyakilomeh all of them are mad to you and those following them.
So you stands against all authorities and respect none!

achorladey:
For starters no where the Bible define going to hell based on your membership in a religious denomination.

thank you for your point

MaxInDHouse:
Oh i forgot your KJV used wrong words!

So if Noah and Job were PERFECT before God then how come Jesus said:

"Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is" Matthew 11:11

Perhaps you people don't understand what Paul meant when he wrote:

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23

So if there are PERFECT humans then of what need is Jesus to set the model for all mankind? John 3:16

Perhaps Noah and Job don't need the blood of Jesus to be saved from their sins:

That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned. Romans 5:12

max, are you trying to said that the is no sinless person in bible so did Jesus commit sin ?

Kingsempires:
max, are you trying to said that the is no sinless person in bible so did Jesus commit sin ?

That's why he is God's chosen model for all of us to follow his footsteps closely {1Peter 2:21} apart from him all others became imperfect through Adamic sin! Romans 5:12

No. Don't allow anybody mislead you or deceive you. If you know what you're doing, Catholic Church and being a Catholic is the fastest, easiest and the most assured way of making Heaven.
Enough said.
Cheers.
All the best.

Kingsempires:
Ever since I became a catholic member,I enjoyed the church I enjoy the mass, preaching etc. But I have been watching videos that is talking bad about catholic. I always ignore those videos till I come across this video that the link is at the Bossom. Is this history in the video is true, like am confused. Am I right being a catholic remember



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjLvP7GGOEs?si=sDCCWxiYVijNRjPF


What do you guys think about this video

MaxInDHouse:
OK, you don't even know the meaning of that word "PERFECT"
Well let me help you.
Is there any human who lived throughout his life without a sin?

For your information this is what Jesus Christ himself said regarding perfection in the sight of God.

"Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is" Matthew 11:11

Please were Abel and Enoch born of women?

Did they lived before or after John the baptist?

According to Jesus even John the baptist is not perfect like Born Again Christians whose part in God's Kingdom is to dwell in heaven and the Born Again brothers of Christ were selected after the early Christians were baptized with the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.

I have explained to you in short texts what are obtainable and expected of A BORN AGAIN, BORN OF GOD, CHRIST-IAN WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE FAMILY OF GOD. My joy is that you acknowledged my answer requested with respect to PERFECTION but I discovered that your counter argument was shallow and anti to Jesus acknowledgement, praise and testimony of Abel as "Abel the righteous" (Matt 23:35) for he is the Creator and righteous judge. God and even Satan testify to Job's perfection in addition to the selfsame in Job 1:
1,8; 2:3. So, your question: "Please were Abel and Enoch born of women?" is invalid for they were the seeds of Eve.

Original sin does not make anyone perfect having lost the power of sonship to Satan. However, the sacrificial death of Jesus settles it. It is unwise on the other hand to see oneself as a sinner and one who cannot attain the
perfection Jesus calls for.
Moreover, man is imperfect if compared to the BEING of God, His majesty and Nature_ He is truthful, righteous and HOLY as against man's nature. Man cannot behold His BEING and live because of the original sin, adamic nature inherent in man. Anyway, IN MAN'S CAPACITY and with God's provision in Jesus, your claim and emphasis is INVALID for the nature can be subdued.

This is actually Jesus message to Christian.

Captain4Jehovah:
man is imperfect if compared to the BEING of God.

Thank you!

AllLovingGod:
No. Don't allow anybody mislead you or deceive you. If you know what you're doing, Catholic Church and being a Catholic is the fastest, easiest and the most assured way of making Heaven.
Enough said.
Cheers.
All the best.

Thanks for your point