₦airaland Forum

Odingo1:
South East and State creation is political and military creation to divide Igbos and doesn’t represent tribes, Igbos in Nigeria spread across 13 states;
1. Anambra
2. Abia
3. Enugu
4. Ebonyi
5. Imo
6. Edo (Igbanke Igbos)
7. Delta (Anioma)
8. Rivers Igbos (Ikwerre, Ogba, Asa, Ekpeye, Ndoni-Egbema, Ndoki, Obigbo, Etches, Opobo, Ubani and Bonny)
9. Benue (Ado, Oju, Okpoku And Obi)
10. Cross River (Isobo in Obubra Lga).
11. Bayelsa (Sagbama-Ogbia)
12. Kogi ( Onicha Igo, Eke, Akpanya, Odolu, Ugwuebonyi, Nwajala, Amaeke, Ozara, etc mostly found in 3 local government of Ibaji, Odolu and Ofu local government areas in Kogi state)
13. Akwa Ibom ( Ohaobu Ndoki in Ukanafun Local government, Obuagu and Itumbauzo in Ini LGA and Umubueze in Ika LGA).

Not only that, but all the tribes in the military created fictional “South-South” (when there is no North north lol) are related to IGBO… Ijaw are kin, Efik are kin, Ibibio are kin…

Are they kin to Fulani? lol

Yet you want to be upholding One Nigeria that White Man created….?

No wonder they call you NIGGERS from time to time, even shythole and you VEX?

Why? Why vex? LOL

Odingo1:
I have modify the mistake, it is actually Isobo in Obubra LGA, thanks for the remark.

Thank you too for the knowledge.

Odingo1:
Humans don’t have the capacity to decide which tribe they belong to, nature do that for all humans in the world. Your indigenous language and culture define which ethnicity you belong as human on this planet earth.

Aworis, Ilaje and Egun Languages are not intelligible with Yoruba, so they are not Yorubas but they can choose to align themselves with Yorubas for political purposes. That cannot not be said with Ikwerre dialect of Igbo because every Igbo person hear Ikwerre language when it is spoken and vice versa every Ikwerre person hear central Igbo when it is been spoken offcourse saying they are not Igbos is just for political purposes.

please where did d awori, ilaje n egun said they ain't Yoruba?

I come tire for u oooo

Odingo1:
You see Ijaws in reality on their ancestral land in Lagos and you are saying they are claiming land.

There was a time Ijaw and Yorubas clash over the ownership of some waterline communities in Ajegunle Lagos.

The truth is that Ijaws occupied that area before the white people came into Lagos, Egun occupied Badagri axis, why Aworis own Lagos island. Yorubas like Egba and others live in upland like Lagos mainland.

See census in 1891 below. If you like dey deceive yourself.

Odingo1:
Humans don’t have the capacity to decide which tribe they belong to, nature do that for all humans in the world. Your indigenous language and culture define which ethnicity you belong as human on this planet earth.

Aworis, Ilaje and Egun Languages are not intelligible with Yoruba, so they are not Yorubas but they can choose to align themselves with Yorubas for political purposes. That cannot not be said with Ikwerre dialect of Igbo because every Igbo person hear Ikwerre language when it is spoken and vice versa every Ikwerre person hear central Igbo when it is been spoken offcourse saying they are not Igbos is just for political purposes.

Aworis and Ilaje are not....kkkkkk. something we dey hear wella.

Factcheck0001:
please where did d awori, ilaje n egun said they ain't Yoruba?

I come tire for u oooo

Please try to understand, they don’t need to say they are not Yoruba. Your language define you. As far as Yorubas cannot hear Egun language when it is spoken then it is simple that they are not originally Yoruba indigenous but can choose to claim or align with Yorubas.

There are various dialects of Yorubas that when spoken every Yoruba will understand a little bit eg Ekiti, Igbomina, Ijebu, Ijesa, Oyo, Ondo, Owo, Ikale, Ikare, Gbede, Ijumu, Ife, etc.

If Igbos cannot hear Ikwerre language when it is spoken then it is simple that Ikwerres are not Igbo. I am not a Yoruba because I can’t hear Yoruba language except if I learn it.

Odingo1:
Please try to understand, they don’t need to say they are not Yoruba. Your language define you. As far as Yorubas cannot hear Egun language when it is spoken then it is simple that they are not originally Yoruba indigenous but can choose to claim or align with Yorubas.

There are various dialects of Yorubas that when spoken every Yoruba will understand a little bit eg Ekiti, Igbomina, Ijebu, Ijesa, Oyo, Ondo, Owo, Ikale, Ikare, Gbede, Ijumu, Ife, etc.

I b Lagos boy but I had a girlfriend from ijebu then

Anytime she speaks with her mom in ijebu I no dey hear anything dem Dey talk

Does that mean ijebu is not Yoruba land?

Same thing with ondo, I was just lost when we went there for ceremony

Does that mean ondo n ijebu are not yorubas?

Factcheck0001:
I b Lagos boy but I had a girlfriend from ijebu then

Anytime she speaks with her mom in ijebu I no dey hear anything dem Dey talk

Does that mean ijebu is not Yoruba land?

Same thing with ondo, I was just lost when we went there for ceremony

Does that mean ondo n ijebu are not yorubas?

Then to classify it as Yoruba, the sound have to be similar with cultural similarities. Dialects can sound similar but may not be heard. Like Itshekiri in Delta state, everyone that hear where itshekiri is spoken know that it is similar to Yoruba in sound.

Odingo1:
Then to classify it as Yoruba, the sound have to be similar with cultural similarities. Dialects can sound similar but may not be heard. Like Itshekiri in Delta state, everyone that hear where itshekiri is spoken know that it is similar to Yoruba in sound.

since dialect differ

Are ijebu n ondo still yorubas

Yes or no?

Odingo1

Oya come n answer now

Factcheck0001:
since dialect differ

Are ijebu n ondo still yorubas

Yes or no?

No Ijebu people are not originally indigenous to dialects of Yorubas but long time of living close to Yorubas assimilated there language into Yoruba. Ijebu is different ethnicity that migrated from Sudan.

Remember that the term Yoruba is a unity name, in ancient time there no name like Yoruba, Yorubas live dialects by dialects like Egbas, Ekiti, Owo, Oyo etc. There are many different tribes in South West that was assimilated into Yoruba umbrella.

Odingo1:
Migration have ended in the world with technology innovation except what Fulani is doing in Benue by killing entire villages and taking over their land.

Igbos can never become indigenous to Yoruba land except if Yorubas do like Northern cities were they gave Igbo people outskirts area and call it Sabo Ngari, with time Igbos built up the area and become dominant in the area but yet it doesn’t make them indigenous, incase of Yorubas, Igbos are scattered in Yoruba cities with no concentration to a particular area like in the core North.

There are already areas that are known to be Ibo areas.

Festac is predominantly Ibo, amuwo, etc.

Odingo1:
No Ijebu people are not originally indigenous to dialects of Yorubas but long time of living close to Yorubas assimilated there language into Yoruba. Ijebu is different ethnicity that migrated from Sudan.

so in one word ijebus are not yorubas?

Factcheck0001:
so in one word ijebus are not yorubas?

Yes they are not Yorubas but understand that over the years they have been assimilated into Yoruba umbrella.

Them theirselves Ijebus maintain that they differ from Yorubas, their Awujele king said that openly that they are from Sudan and not previously Yorubas.

Prosperity of Lagos or South West bring so many different ethnic groups together under Yoruba umbrella.

Odingo1:
Yes they are not Yorubas but understand that over the years they have been assimilated into Yoruba umbrella.

Them theirselves Ijebus maintain that they differ from Yorubas, their Awujele king said that openly that they are from Sudan and not previously Yorubas.

any link to that bro?

Factcheck0001:
any link to that bro?

I will send you a link of Ijebu Awujele that said that, so that you can listen to him.

owobokiri:
Lagos belong to the Aworis and Eguns.
Igbos and Yorubas are not indigenous to Lagos.
Yeah!

Is Awori not Yoruba again? Habba! Sey Awori language no be Yoruba ni? There are other Yoruba subgroups too: Ijebu, Egba, Ijesha, Ekiti, Ondo, Ilaje... Etc.

Why is it that these Igbos are always defining Yoruba identity for Yoruba people? This is very strong o

Factcheck0001:
any link to that bro?

http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/06/25/ijebus-are-from-sudan-awujale-insists/

I will look for the video, Awujele said clearly that they are not originally Yorubas.

Odingo1:
http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/06/25/ijebus-are-from-sudan-awujale-insists/

I will look for the video, Awujele said clearly that they are not originally Yorubas.

u don't even understand what u posted

He's talking about migration to settle down, he never claimed ijebus were not yorubas

yommen:
Is Awori not Yoruba again? Habba! Sey Awori language no be Yoruba ni? There are other Yoruba subgroups too: Ijebu, Egba, Ijesha, Ekiti, Ondo, Ilaje... Etc.

Why is it that these Igbos are always defining Yoruba identity for Yoruba people? This is very strong o

Try to differentiate reality with political classification or sub groups, any language in the world that you cannot hear what they are speaking simply means that your language is not synonymous or intelligible with their language and of different ethnicity. A Yoruba person can’t hear Awori, Egun or Ilaje. I don’t know much about Ijebu.

In Lagos state television, they air news in Egun and it is totally different from Yoruba language including Awori and Ilaje.

Factcheck0001:
u don't even understand what u posted

He's talking about migration to settle down, he never claimed ijebus were not yorubas

There is one he said they are not Yorubas, I am looking for it

kasim155:
This is how some of u write false history about other people and their region. The Egun and the Aworis are sub groups of the Yoruba tribe, we also have the Ijebu as indigene of Lagos. So because Igbo are not indigenous to Lagos doesn't mean that Yoruba are not.

GBAM!!!

Factcheck0001:
u don't even understand what u posted

He's talking about migration to settle down, he never claimed ijebus were not yorubas

https://g.co/kgs/TAWnJGW

In Awujele statement: Oba Adetona revealed that as a matter of fact, when the idea of Yoruba term was first tossed around, Ijebus declined membership of Yoruba umbrella on the ground that they are not descendants of Oduduwa but from Wadai in Sudan.

Odingo1:
https://g.co/kgs/TAWnJGW

In Awujele statement: Oba Adetona revealed that as a matter of fact, when the idea of Yoruba term was first tossed around, Ijebus declined membership of Yoruba umbrella on the ground that they are not descendants of Oduduwa but from Wadai in Sudan.

thanks @ Odingo1 for the history exposition in your own little research 🙏
and especially the manner you used in responding to tensed comments that would have spiraled out of control on the thread. Kudus👍

chimex38:
thanks @ Odingo1 for the history exposition in your own little research 🙏
and especially the manner you used in responding to tensed comments that would have spiraled out of control on the thread. Kudus👍

Ok thanks 🙏, you are welcome 🤗

casualobserver:
There are already areas that are known to be Ibo areas.

Festac is predominantly Ibo, amuwo, etc.

Yes but it still lack the community term that can be used to refer to an area as belonging to a particular tribe, like if you enter Badagri side of Lagos you will know that it is Egun community or Igbo Osere of Ilajes. Festac or Amuwo Odofin only have large number of Igbos but it is not Igbo community.

When I live in surulere bodethomas area of Lagos, in our street there is about 30 houses, Igbos own about 18 so the remaining 12 mixed it Up, 9 Yoruba houses, 1 Hausa, 1 Bini, 1 Urobo Delta Man. So Igbos can’t claim such places although they are majority owners of houses.

Odingo1:
So here we go with concrete evidence of Ijaw people being indigenous to Lagos, watch and learn;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfW7499XWXk

See this retard sending a screenshot from Facebook and a video of a hungry looking man as his historical evidence 😂😂
Nawa for some of you oo

Odingo1:
Humans don’t have the capacity to decide which tribe they belong to, nature do that for all humans in the world. Your indigenous language and culture define which ethnicity you belong as human on this planet earth.

Aworis, Ilaje and Egun Languages are not intelligible with Yoruba, so they are not Yorubas but they can choose to align themselves with Yorubas for political purposes. That cannot not be said with Ikwerre dialect of Igbo because every Igbo person hear Ikwerre language when it is spoken and vice versa every Ikwerre person hear central Igbo when it is been spoken offcourse saying they are not Igbos is just for political purposes.

This guy is a dunce
Say Awori isn’t intelligible with Yoruba 😂😂
I’m sure you’ve never heard Awori spoken anywhere else before . The same Awori of Lagos and Ogun Abi another one .

Awori is even closer to the mainstream Oyo Yoruba than the ones been spoken in the Eastern flanks of Ijebu, Ondo and Ekiti 😂😂

EeyanMayweather:
See this retard sending a screenshot from Facebook and a video of a hungry looking man as his historical evidence 😂😂
Nawa for some of you oo

It is obvious that you didn’t watch the video to learn one or two things about this Kiokio Ijaw community in Lagos.

EeyanMayweather:
This guy is a dunce
Say Awori isn’t intelligible with Yoruba 😂😂
I’m sure you’ve never heard Awori spoken anywhere else before . The same Awori of Oyo and Ogun Abi another one .

Awori is even closer to the mainstream Oyo Yoruba than the ones been spoken in the Eastern flanks of Ijebu, Ondo and Ekiti 😂😂

Ok let say Awori is a sub group of Yoruba language, what of Egun, I am 100% sure that Egun is not intelligible with Yoruba.

Odingo1:
Maybe the census counters could not reach the waters because Ijaw people normally live ontop of water. I will show you evidence.

You are irredemably daft.

Fortruth:
Not only that, but all the tribes in the military created fictional “South-South” (when there is no North north lol) are related to IGBO… Ijaw are kin, Efik are kin, Ibibio are kin…

Oh, Ijaw, Efik and Ibibio are now kin?

When Ojukwu took over Akwa-Cross during the war, how did you Igbos treat Efik and Ibibios?
You raped their women and buried them alive.
You took their land went to their farms, harvested their crops and declared that the land belongs to Biafra.

Are you aware that in parts of the SS, they still celebrate the defeat of Biafra and liberation of their land from Igbos?

See how Ikwerres were celebrating the defeat of biafra. In fact, the Nigerian troops had to create a buffer between Ikwerre land and Igboland because the Ikwerres wanted to retaliate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRbA2CFudgU&t=26s&pp=ygUYaWt3ZXJyZSBhZnRlciBiaWFmcmEgd2Fy

Elechi Amadi an Ikwerre man wrote about the atrocities of Igbos in Ikwerre land during the war.

You must think you are talking to the idiots you call elders in your place.