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OriOko88:

Una no wan still get sense for this tithing of a thing. Dem no dey force u to pay now. Infact for church,when I get broke I no dey stand up for my seat during offering time. Nobody go from force me to stand. So what's d fuss!

Tithe is personal,if u like pay,if u like don't pay, Jehovah witness wey no dey pay tithe,dem no dey live? Or living good life? Abeeg
I pay tithe and I'm happy with it. I pay it to God so I don't care if any pastor embezzles it or not. It's my damn money not urs. So shove ur opinion down ur asss Mr Op

Nobody is complaining about people paying tithes. It is a personal choice. The complaint is against those frauds that tie God's blessings to solely paying tithes. Those dodgy "pastors" that say "if you don't pay tithes you'll be poor", or "if you don't pay tithes you'll die". If you don't see the danger in that trend, then you need to check your Christianity (if you're a christian).

Fiscus105:
King Hezekiah in the Bible, go and read it

Ok.....so do you mean that God had destined for Hezekiah to die at that particular time only for him to change the time for him to die? If yes, does that mean that people who die from terrorism today has been destined by God to die that way?

deeway200:
Tithing is personal. I don't pay it but won't criticize anyone who does. If you believe in it , who am I to stop you and if you don't,who am I to compel you. Do anything that works for you

if biblical principles is a personal thing, then stealing, immorality, homosexuality, corruption can also be a personal thing.

do whatever you like as long as it is personal

Even as a Christian, I have never believed in tithing.....

More so how preachers threaten the members on tithe discouraged me...

But the main thing is, I never believed in tithing....... But i pay my offering... That I believe in

Even Jesus said, let every man give cheeringly without no grudge..... Which is offering and I give it with no grudge... Same can't be said of tithe..

OriOko88:

Una no wan still get sense for this tithing of a thing. Dem no dey force u to pay now. Infact for church,when I get broke I no dey stand up for my seat during offering time. Nobody go from force me to stand. So what's d fuss!

Tithe is personal,if u like pay,if u like don't pay, Jehovah witness wey no dey pay tithe,dem no dey live? Or living good life? Abeeg
I pay tithe and I'm happy with it. I pay it to God so I don't care if any pastor embezzles it or not. It's my damn money not urs. So shove ur opinion down ur asss Mr Op

if biblical principles is a personal thing, then stealing, immorality, homosexuality, corruption can also be a personal thing.

do whatever you like as long as it is personal

Druss:
Are we discussing this again? If you are born again and consult with your father in heaven, then the answer is in his word. I tithe and I sow seeds.

You cannot reap without sowing. That is the rule by which people become rich. That is the way of this universe. You don't have to be a Christian to be wealthy. Read Ecclesiastes to understand Solomon's thoughts on wealth. Who said both gentlemen didn't tithe?

NB Paying tithe is not about wealth.

Can you kindly show us where God commands Christians to pay tithe?

jesusjnr2020:
The whole point of this topic is that when you tithe, make prayer requests or do whatever you want to do unto God, let it not be because you were seeking prosperity or riches for yourself from God, instead let it be because you love God and were seeking after His kingdom and righteousness, that's the only time whatever you do would please God.

And you know what that possibly means - Ask King Solomon, world richest man that ever lived.

God bless.

You should have posted only this and not the first two epistles that has heresy. If you are telling people to give to God voluntarily for support of God's work instead of seeking return, that is different from acting like ya statements are condemning tithing.
Maybe you don't know or you're a complete agent of AntiChrist, ya statements are creating loopholes to bash the church more from never do well antiChrists. Use ya sense to construct corrections properly

Michael547:
What of pastors who claim that if you don't pay tithe, You will be poor, windows will not open and that those who don't pay will go to hell fire? Are they not forcing their members to pay with such teachings?

and did he point d gun at them n forcefully compelled them to pay titthe?

Nobody pay it and said he want to be the richest
You won’t lack again once you paying and a way for church growth contribution

saintkel:
and did he point d gun at them n forcefully compelled them to pay titthe?

So do you mean that if a yahoo boy does not point gun at me to scam me, then he is not a fraudster and I should not talk against him?

I guess you all are becoming enlightened..

Welcome to reality. Tithing is not mandatory. Same with salvation. It's entirely up to you..

Personally, I have never paid tithe to a church. What I occasionally do, emphasis on "occasionally", is to give part of my salary to people in need.

Am I losing favours or grace because of it? I honestly can't say and neither can anyone.

Menclothing1:
Nobody pay it and said he want to be the richest
You won’t lack again once you paying and a way for church growth contribution

What of people who don't pay tithe, do they lack?

Wait,I want to ask one question,was there anywhere in the bible where God said he will make tithers the richest people in the world?

lexy2014:
if biblical principles is a personal thing, then stealing, immorality, homosexuality, corruption can also be a personal thing.

do whatever you like as long as it is personal

So you're equating tithe as home sexuality or stealing? Ur head don hit ground

afadi2410:
Wait,I want to ask one question,was there anywhere in the bible where God said he will make tethers the richest people in the world?

Nowhere in the bible.....there is also Nowhere in the bible where God says that Christians who don't pay tithe will be poor.

Michael547:
What is this strategic investment all about? Can you explain with bible verses?

My take is not about religion or Bible. I talk about being smart with your money or even commitment to something as that could also be a form of investment.

Brenbentondiaz:
Nobody is complaining about people paying tithes. It is a personal choice. The complaint is against those frauds that tie God's blessings to solely paying tithes. Those dodgy "pastors" that say "if you don't pay tithes you'll be poor", or "if you don't pay tithes you'll die". If you don't see the danger in that trend, then you need to check your Christianity (if you're a christian).

You're d one spewing trash here. Give any reference of where a pastor says if u don't pay tithe you'll die. Just a reference. Don't join the bandwagon of online gullible

Until we leave this Earth we won't know the importance of tithing.

Goodlyhrt:
My take is not about religion or Bible. I talk about being smart with your money or even commitment to something as that could also be a form of investment.

Ok....so you are simply saying that if I invest my money in a profitable business I will have more money, right?

Michael547:
.when you say tithe is not necessarily biblical, what do you mean?

What I mean here someone shouldn't come to tell you to pay 10% of your hard earned income. Pay what you can.

jesusjnr2020:
When You Realize Tithing Didn't Make Solomon Or Elon Musk World Richest Men

The length to which the prosperity preachers were taking the matter of tithing, one would think tithing has made many tithers, themselves inclusive, the richest men in the world, however that couldn't be any further from the truth, because tithing has never made any man to become world's richest, not even one.

Even king Solomon, the only man the Bible called world's richest, it wasn't tithing that made him to become the richest man in history.

In fact God Himself (who made Solomon richer than all those who lived before and after him) said the reason He gave Solomon such an unprecedented amount of riches, was because Solomon didn't ask for riches for himself, but the things that mattered to God.

1 Kings 3:11-13 (KJV)

And God said unto him, Because thou hast asked this thing, and hast not asked for thyself long life; neither hast asked riches for thyself, nor hast asked the life of thine enemies; but hast asked for thyself understanding to discern judgment;
Behold, I have done according to thy words: lo, I have given thee a wise and an understanding heart; so that there was none like thee before thee, neither after thee shall any arise like unto thee.
And I have also given thee that which thou hast not asked, both riches, and honour: so that there shall not be any among the kings like unto thee all thy days.

God bless.

Work hard and tell God to bless the work of your hands...very simple.

chrisxxx:
What I mean here someone shouldn't come to tell you to pay 10% of your hard earned income. Pay what you can.

Ok....so you mean that the bible does not enforce a Christian to pay tithe, right?

OriOko88:
So you're equating tithe as home sexuality or stealing? Ur head don hit ground

since your head no hit ground, how are biblical principles are personal thing?

why should homosexuality not also be a personal thing?

MadamVanessa:




Tithing has never been a guaranteed path to wealth. Preachers who manipulate their congregation into paying tithes with the promise of riches are, in fact, exploiting them. Interestingly, many of the world's wealthiest individuals are not Christians and are unfamiliar with the concept of tithing, yet they have amassed generational wealth.

Do not be deceived by charlatans masquerading as God's servants. They distort the true nature of God by emphasizing tithing, portraying Him as a financial multiplier or a Ponzi scheme where you invest and expect a larger return. This misguided narrative undermines the true essence of God.

Wow ..never thought Vanessa could teach like this. 👍

I was once a member of a prospering church during my fellowship days in varsity... They made tithing their top priority to a point that if you don't give, you'd feel guilty... One day I decided to give a small tithe even though I had some good money in my wallet when I visited one of our fellowship church branches for a Sunday service... And on my way back, I felt so guilty that I ended up giving most of the money I had to this elderly lady I didn't know.

They'll always say things like, "if you give, blessings shall come your way, you shall be victorious in all that you do and more riches will come your way."

And whenever they preach, they'd like to refer to what the pastor says rather than what the Bible says... Tithing started becoming a competition amongst the members of the fellowship and the sisters would compete with their Sunday outfits... Me I was from a simple biblical church back home and the whole thing was a shock to me considering how it wasn't long before I became a Christian... One Sunday I went to the church wearing these new shoes that my dad had just bought me and one sister ran after me after church and she started complimenting the shoes... And as we were talking, she then asked me to borrow her my shoes for the next Sunday service.

I thought she was joking, but she followed me to my place of residence after our weekday service and asked for the shoes once more... She promised to wear them only once for the Sunday service and return them. I eventually gave her the shoes and she did came wearing them the following Sunday... It took months for her to finally return them and by the time she returned them, she had spoilt them... I was really bothered because I had been disturbing my father for those shoes for a while.

Like most of the fellowship members, she'd use her monthly allowance to buy new clothes for Sunday services and tithing... Sometimes she'd spent all her money on tithing that she'd not even have money to buy sanitary pads.

I then decided to slowly backslide from the day they elected me in my absence as the new cell leader... I started associating with the other leaders and that's when I saw that not everything is as it seems... Many of those leaders were fornicating and cohabiting with their girlfriends and boyfriends and to them it wasn't a big deal... But for me it went against the teachings of my church back home.

And as leaders we were allocated the amount of tithe that we were supposed to give and it was a lot considering that we were just students... I protested against it, but they'd use the head pastor's preachings against me... I then asked them how come many of them are fornicating freely when the bible says "the body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for God? And again I reminded them that sexual immorality and greed is regarded as improper for God's disciples, but they told me that their head pastor doesn't mind masturbation.

That was my queue for me to leave... My faith was crashed because I really loved that church.

Michael547:
Can you kindly show us where God commands Christians to pay tithe?

Do you have a relationship with GOD? GOD never commands Christians to do anything. Does Jesus mention Christians anywhere in the Bible.

My advice - if you have a personal relationship with GOD, then you should know the answer on whether to pay tithe or not.

Druss:
Do you have a relationship with GOD? GOD never commands Christians to do anything. Does Jesus mention Christians anywhere in the Bible.

My advice - if you have a personal relationship with GOD, then you should know the answer on whether to pay tithe or not.

So what you are saying is that there is no commandment from God or Jesus for Christians to pay tithe, right?

You guys are missing the point about this whole tithing of a thing; and to some extend, I don't blame you guys. Crooked preachers are the ones causing much of this confusion.

From the way I understand it, the old testament commandments on tithing are neither practical nor mandatory for we non-jewish christians. BUT a christian can voluntarily decide to give 10% of his or her income to God as a way of acknowledging God and appreciating him as the one who gave you the money, and also as a way of thanking God for his blessings in every other aspects of your life. I tell you there is undeniable blessing in doing this.

Don't pay tithe to force God to bless you or do anything for you because it doesn't work that way. Tithing should only be one of the ways of showing appreciation to God for all that he has already done for you and for being your ultimate provider.

As for those of you who like to think God does not need our money, don't forget that if you attend a church where God is worshipped in truth and in spirit that money will be put to good use for the furtherance of his kingdom on earth.

Michael547:
So what you are saying is that there is no commandment from God or Jesus for Christians to pay tithe, right?

Is that all you read from that post? Do you have a personal relationship with GOD? Do you drink milk or do you eat meat?

bitbillionaire:
You guys are missing the point about this whole tithing of a thing; and to some extend, I don't blame you guys. Crooked preachers are the ones causing much of this confusion.

From the way I understand it, the old testament commandments on tithing are neither practical nor mandatory for we non-jewish christians. BUT a christian can voluntarily decide to give 10% of his or her income to God as a way of acknowledging God and appreciating him as the one who gave you the money, and also as a way of thanking God for his blessings in every other aspects of his life. I tell you there is undeniable blessing in doing this.

Don't pay tithe to force God to bless you or do anything for you because it doesn't work that way. Tithing should only be one of the ways of showing appreciation to God for all that he has already done for you and for being your ultimate provider.

As for those of you who like to think God does not need our money, don't forget that if you attend a church where God is worshipped in truth and in spirit that money will be put to good use for the furtherance of his kingdom on earth.

KPOM!!

jesusjnr2020:
Furthermore the reason God gave for making Solomon the richest man that ever lived, also puts the idea being sold by prosperity preachers, that one needs to seek or strive for earthly riches or financial prosperity (as they do) to become rich in the mud, because Solomon didn't ask or seek after such things beforehand, just the things that mattered to God, yet all of the riches of all the prosperity seeking preachers in history combined cannot come close to matching the riches of king Solomon.

Just to illustrate how rich King Solomon became, he made silver and gold to become as stones in Jerusalem.

2 Chronicles 1:15 (KJV)

And the king made silver and gold at Jerusalem as plenteous as stones, and cedar trees made he as the sycomore trees that are in the vale for abundance.

That should already give an idea of the telling impact and ripple effect his riches had upon the lives of his people, Israel. It was to the extent the most precious metals, silver and gold, become as many as stones in their land.

That is what it truly means to be prosperous, when the prosperity reaches everyone that no one has lack among the people even as it was in the early church (Acts 4:34-35), not the kind of today's prosperity preachers that will be flaunting their earthly riches in their faces and even bragging about being dangerously rich, while many of their church members yet wallow in abject poverty[/b]

God bless.

You have mental issues. Did the preachers of today hijack God's wisdom and monopolize it? As a matter of fact, the riches they flaunt(according to you), actually comes to them through the people you are trying to incite against them.

Druss:
Is that all you read from that post? Do you have a personal relationship with GOD? Do you drink milk or do you eat meat?

Yes I eat to survive. Did God command the isrealites to tithe? If yes, does God command me today to tithe? Yes or no?