₦airaland Forum

Michael547:
So why will a loving God burn a wicked person forever for a crime he did not commit forever?

ok but you get the point that some people will be burnt forever.beside why will anyone want to be burnt forever should be the right questions? God loves you,so love him back and do what he commands.burning forever was meant for Satan and his demons.dont do Satans work and think God won't keep his word of burning you forever.God is a righteous judge. if he burns you small then he will be unjust for burning Satan and his demons forever.remember he created satan and the demons too.repent and live for God and forget about being burnt forever.even government sentence someone to life imprisonment

kennethesan:
This tithing subject has been Overflugged. Keep your tithe if you feel otherwise. It will still not amount to sin if you don't pay tithe and become another Elon.

The bottom line is that you don't want to pay tithe. Just do as you pls

is it really being overflugged?

If it's not from Jesus and won't lead to salvation?

Then what does it lead to? Who is it from? The flesh, carnal or the devil?


If we do our will would we be accepted? Would we be accepted for going against God's will?


They threatened people with a curse yet curse is anyone who doesn't keep all the law, and they made people obey a lie, and improper interpretation of the law, not 33%, not to the Levitical priests, the poor and the like but to themselves and their idols.

They made people worship money, give for blessings and security and bragged about it.

Overflugged? You say, people blinded began to serve money thinking they were serving God, building the kingdoms of men instead of the kingdom of God.

If by mercy their heart pleased God who would reward them for tithing when the reward is for those who gave the hungry, the thirsty and the brethren who had no clothes or shelter a cover.

jesusjnr2020:
When You Realize Tithing Didn't Make Solomon Or Elon Musk World Richest Men

The length to which the prosperity preachers were taking the matter of tithing, one would think tithing has made many tithers, themselves inclusive, the richest men in the world, however that couldn't be any further from the truth, because tithing has never made any man to become world's richest, not even one.

Even king Solomon, the only man the Bible called world's richest, it wasn't tithing that made him to become the richest man in history.

In fact God Himself (who made Solomon richer than all those who lived before and after him) said the reason He gave Solomon such an unprecedented amount of riches, was because Solomon didn't ask for riches for himself, but the things that mattered to God.

1 Kings 3:11-13 (KJV)

And God said unto him, Because thou hast asked this thing, and hast not asked for thyself long life; neither hast asked riches for thyself, nor hast asked the life of thine enemies; but hast asked for thyself understanding to discern judgment;
Behold, I have done according to thy words: lo, I have given thee a wise and an understanding heart; so that there was none like thee before thee, neither after thee shall any arise like unto thee.
And I have also given thee that which thou hast not asked, both riches, and honour: so that there shall not be any among the kings like unto thee all thy days.

God bless.

and that is where you missed it tithing was part of what prospered Solomon, you aren't reading your Bible well

ogolemati:
ok but you get the point that some people will be burnt forever.beside why will anyone want to be burnt forever should be the right questions? God loves you,so love him back and do what he commands.burning forever was meant for Satan and his demons.dont do Satans work and think God won't keep his word of burning you forever.God is a righteous judge. if he burns you small then he will be unjust for burning Satan and his demons forever.remember he created satan and the demons too.repent and live for God and forget about being burnt forever

So where does the Bible teach that Satan and people will be burnt forever?

gohf:
you said tithing cannot take one to hell?

If you give money to idol worshippers, to shrines, to JuJu makers, witch doctors, will you go to heaven?


If you offer strange fire God did not ask for will you be spared?

Do you think God accepts what he doesn't ask for or what he doesn't want, did he accept Cain's offering, did he accept Saul's offering?

Firstly Tithing is for Believers and Children of the PROMISE of YE-SHUA (Salvation)
Those who give to the purpose you mention do not have a place in God.

If a person like let them give from now till eternity, if You have not truly repented, the person is not a candidate for God. He is just a plus in the Work of God, He is not WALKING for God.

We are talking about believers here. Do You think not paying tithe will take one whose Soul has been won by Christ to hell?

Every true Christian should want to pay tithe, I mean should we not all be concerned about God's Work?? I don't give too much time to the topic.

Bizaustine:
Yes as long as You dont do it with the intention of Tithing. Tithing should not be less than 10% and mind You it's not taking you to hell or blocking your blessings if You don't pay tithe.

It's all about Giving , Givers never lack, now pit your mind to giving directly for God's work.

Don't focus so much on the message of Tithing. It is for your WORK with and for God, this will not originally take You to heaven.
Keep Your total focus on Your WALK with and for God, na this one be koko.

So you are saying that I am not under any law to pay tithe, right?

nairalee:
This tithe issue is become so stale

If u like pay
If u like don't pay

No need over flogging this horse
Just do whatever rocks your boat

But fuel issue is not stale ba?

At least people are making decisions about tithes.
Can u do same for ur fuel issues that has plagued u for decades?

Kingosytex:
Yeah. The will of God isn't automatic, you have a role to play.

And say to Archippus: "Take heed to the ministry that you have received in the Lord, that you may fulfill it."
(Colossians 4:17).

Pay attention to the bolded. It didn't say that God will fulfill it for you.
It said, that you may fulfil it.
Not everyone becomes what they're destined to be.

So if God destined to die today, can I avoid fulfilling it?

kuntash:
Another thread with the sole purpose of discouraging the propagation of Gods word or message.

You use the false teachers or insincere priests as justification, whereas you don't proffer any alternative how to propagate the message.
Go and find out how difficult it is if spread Gods word these days especially over the internet.
You condemn tithes and offerings and expect the structure of the house of God to be maintained and fixed by who ?


DO YOU KNOW WHAT SOLOMON DID BEFORE GOD BLESSED HIM? LETS TRY NOT TO BE AN AGENT AGAINST THE SPREAD OF THE WORD OF GOD

Solomon did far more than tithing, and he also suffered the consequences of drifting away from God's ways despite his promise of God in blessing for his life ...


The wiles of the enemy is quite tough and potent these days , Let Christians be well guided especially when you are quite fresh in the race or considering accepting Christ .


May God's grace be sufficient!

Was it recorded anywhere that God appeared to anyone because of the tithe they gave, all through scripture from Genesis to Malachi, why did God wait till Malachi to curse, why weren't there records of people being forced or arrested or punished for not giving it, yet under grace the devil propagates in a corruptible way to lure souls into worshippinh mammon and ending up in hell.


Jesus said he will build his church, when did was his church ever built on money for the true believers and church still stands but this fakes make a lot of noise winning men and making them a worse child of the devil than they are.

Didijiji:
I tithe and the reason is that church needs money to run, fuel generators, pay workers etc not because of pastors ..

And my church isn’t one of those one-Man owned Daddy Go churches that manages inflow and outflow with wives and children as signatories

church needing money isn't an excuse to lie steal and defraud, while misusing the name of God for vain things.


Should a man of God lie so that people will have faith because the ends justifies the means? It is evil

Flame333:
Dey play
Make you dey compare your destiny with others..
The devil have a way of twisting the word of God against doubters..
The country that brought Christianity to us is a world power today but our poverty keep growing everyday..
The world is mysteriously created far beyond man understanding..
Tomorrow you hear people say those doing good die young while evil people live longer but you don't ask God how he does it..
Just do the part that will favour you and leave the rest.. Earth is not heaven

Pastor Flame I sight u

Michael547:
So where does the Bible teach that Satan and people will be burnt forever?

another day for this discussion.just serve God and do his commands

ogolemati:
another day for this discussion.just serve God and do his commands

🤣🤣🤣🤣baba don run.
Is it also justice for God to burn the devil forever since he did not sin forever?

Bizaustine:
Firstly Tithing is for Believers and Children of the PROMISE of YE-SHUA (Salvation)
Those who give to the purpose you mention do not have a place in God.

If a person like let them give from now till eternity, if You have not truly repented, the person is not a candidate for God. He is just a plus in the Work of God, He is not WALKING for God.

We are talking about believers here. Do You think not paying tithe will take one whose Soul has been won by Christ to hell?

Every true Christian should want to pay tithe, I mean should we not all be concerned about God's Work?? I don't give too much time to the topic.

Those believers are not the ones in Christ who believe in the price Jesus paid to set them free.

Jesus asked Peter, who pays, sons or strangers and Peter said strangers, to which Jesus responded to the sons are free

Who the son of man sets free is free indeed

But the devil uses men blinds them and puts them under the bondage of the law promising them blessings.

A soul that is won is one that endures until the end OBEYING THE WORDS OF JESUS and not the doctrines and traditions of men. Those who love and give food, water and clothes who are righteous in the sight of God, not those who mismanage what the Lord has given them and giving it to shrines and idols in the name of churches.

Did they do God's will or their own will.

Michael547:
So you are saying that I am not under any law to pay tithe, right?

You are under no Law dear 😁😁

Did your Bible not tell you that GRACE is above the LAW??

It's a choice of wisdom if You ask me.

Do You believe in the law of Returns, Give and it shall be Given unto You??
Now imagine Given for God's work.

Michael547:
So if God destined to die today, can I avoid fulfilling it?

Sorry, I didn't understand your question.
Please can you rephrase or come clearer?

jesusjnr2020:
The whole point of this topic is that when you tithe, make prayer requests or do whatever you want to do unto God, let it not be because you were seeking prosperity or riches for yourself from God, instead let it be because you love God and were seeking after His kingdom and righteousness, that's the only time whatever you do would please God.

And you know what that possibly means - Ask King Solomon, world richest man that ever lived.

God bless.

the problem is those who are taught tithing are taught to expect blessings in return. Like you shared when people go to them for help they say are you tithing if no we can't help, if yes then God will help you.


They are leading themselves and souls to hell

Kingosytex:
Sorry, I didn't understand your question.
Please can you rephrase or come clearer?

If God has destined me to die today before I was born, can I avoid dying today?

Tithing is not a command but an instruction (or maybe we can call it an advice, I don't know). If you tithe, you get the blessings of the act, if you don't, you get no blessings attached to it. Nevertheless, that you miss out on the blessings associated with tithing does not mean your life is condemned to poverty. In summary, there are other spiritual and natural principles that you can engage in to get blessed while violating another. But think about it, if 1+2 gives you 3. Imaging what 1+2+3 would give you.

Michael547:
Yes I eat to survive. Did God command the isrealites to tithe? If yes, does God command me today to tithe? Yes or no?

MajorOvakporaye:
It is men that constantly tell us to give to 'God'. What if God doesn't even want us to give to Him? God is immaterial and so doesn't need material gratifications. Religious scammers everywhere.

Jesus told us to give to THE POOR, those in need, our brothers and sisters in the Lord, strangers in need of help and even our enemies


YET NEVER DID JESUS TEACH GIVE TO GOD SO THAT YOU CAN BE RICH ON EARTH.

I have liked your posts, pity would have nairaland doesn't have 💕 or 🤗

MadamVanessa:




Tithing has never been a guaranteed path to wealth. Preachers who manipulate their congregation into paying tithes with the promise of riches are, in fact, exploiting them. Interestingly, many of the world's wealthiest individuals are not Christians and are unfamiliar with the concept of tithing, yet they have amassed generational wealth.

Do not be deceived by charlatans masquerading as God's servants. They distort the true nature of God by emphasizing tithing, portraying Him as a financial multiplier or a Ponzi scheme where you invest and expect a larger return. This misguided narrative undermines the true essence of God.

Jesus told us to give to THE POOR, those in need, our brothers and sisters in the Lord, strangers in need of help and even our enemies


YET NEVER DID JESUS TEACH GIVE TO GOD SO THAT YOU CAN BE RICH ON EARTH.


1,000 likes

deeway200:
Tithing is personal. I don't pay it but won't criticize anyone who does. If you believe in it , who am I to stop you and if you don't,who am I to compel you. Do anything that works for you

And what if paying tithe leading one to hell?

Great.

I feel more concerned about the way church finance is being handled than just the inflow means. Anyways, tithe is neither the ticket for entry or dismissal into or from heaven.

Today I see MOG boasting of owning estates after amassing stupendous wealth through threatening seeds, offerings and tithes.

It is well sha..

gohf:
is it really being overflugged?

If it's not from Jesus and won't lead to salvation?

Then what does it lead to? Who is it from? The flesh, carnal or the devil?


If we do our will would we be accepted? Would we be accepted for going against God's will?


They threatened people with a curse yet curse is anyone who doesn't keep all the law, and they made people obey a lie, and improper interpretation of the law, not 33%, not to the Levitical priests, the poor and the like but to themselves and their idols.

They made people worship money, give for blessings and security and bragged about it.

Overflugged? You say, people blinded began to serve money thinking they were serving God, building the kingdoms of men instead of the kingdom of God.

If by mercy their heart pleased God who would reward them for tithing when the reward is for those who gave the hungry, the thirsty and the brethren who had no clothes or shelter a cover.

Michael547:
🤣🤣🤣🤣baba don run.
Is it also justice for God to burn the devil forever since he did not sin forever?

go read Matthew 13. I don't engage people on spiritual things because they reason with their developed brain.because you live as mortal you know time but afterlife knows no time so you will understand forever then.for now your developed brain is limited. so continue thinking you as a muderer or a criminal will stay in heaven with the righteous.me personally will burn you in that hell forever if I catch you there

Tom1960:
When I realized this in 2021, I stopped paying tithe. From then up to now, doing the same job, I have made more money than the whole period I was paying tithe. I'm not saying I'm the richest man in my community or profession. It's my own story.

but remember to obey Jesus and give to the poor, and to those who truly serve God, to those in need, be it strangers or your enemy share the love of God but make sure you honor your parents and not be in debt or owe no one

Chucks13:
You are right.

he is wrong, what if your personal preference and will leads you to hell?

ogolemati:
go read Matthew 13. I don't engage people on spiritual things because they reason with their developed brain.because you live as mortal you know time but afterlife knows no time so you will understand forever then.for now your developed brain is limited. so continue thinking you as a muderer or a criminal will stay in heaven with the righteous.me personally will burn you in that hell forever if I catch you there

So where does Matthew 13 say that the devil and people will be burnt forever?

OriOko88:

Una no wan still get sense for this tithing of a thing. Dem no dey force u to pay now. Infact for church,when I get broke I no dey stand up for my seat during offering time. Nobody go from force me to stand. So what's d fuss!

Tithe is personal,if u like pay,if u like don't pay, Jehovah witness wey no dey pay tithe,dem no dey live? Or living good life? Abeeg
I pay tithe and I'm happy with it. I pay it to God so I don't care if any pastor embezzles it or not. It's my damn money not urs. So shove ur opinion down ur asss Mr Op

Exactly, sometimes I doubt that guy. Is it your money they're using to pay the tithe, so what's your problem. Better mind your business and let God be the judge

nairalee:
This tithe issue is become so stale

If u like pay
If u like don't pay

No need over flogging this horse
Just do whatever rocks your boat

that's what you think, but actions have consequences and if we are to answer for every careless word we speak what about our accountability before God for what we use our money to do.


Did we obey Jesus with it or obeyed men

Juddithaa:
Tithing is not a command but an instruction (or maybe we can call it an advice, I don't know). If you tithe, you get the blessings of the act, if you don't, you get no blessings attached to it. Nevertheless, that you miss out on the blessings associated with tithing does not mean your life is condemned to poverty. In summary, there are other spiritual and natural principles that you can engage in to get blessed while violating another. But think about it, if 1+2 gives you 3. Imaging what 1+2+3 would give you.

So where does the Bible say that there is a seperate blessing for tithe for Christians? Kindly provide a verse.

Michael547:
If God has destined me to die today before I was born, can I avoid dying today?

Well, to the best of my knowledge there is nowhere it is written in the Bible that God has picked out a date for each of us to die.
Though, the Bible clearly states that there are things that can shorten or lengthen one's life span.

When Christ comes to judge every idle word, I hope you will be able to stand besides this your foolish comment.

If you don't pay tithe, good and fine, if you hate pastors in christiendom for their exploiting the scriptures to profit their pockets, even better. But when you allow devil to use you to stumble those whose hearts have not yet become hardened to simple facts stated plainly by God Himself in the scriptures, then I just hope when it's time to settle accounts, you can bear the consequences of what you typed here.

Firstly, it was the offering that Solomon made to God that moved God to even visit him in the first place! Such a type of offering which has never before been seen in the history of men and Kings or do you know what it means to burn a thousand bulls unto The Lord? You with your crayfish brain,Can you even count that high without making mistake? Then to even mention Elon musk in the same sentence as tithing shows how very unsound your thinking abi what fellowship does light have with darkness? Is it only God that gives worldly riches? Did you not read where Satan offered Jesus all the riches of this world for a simple act of worship?

All you tares that have been sown amongst the wheat in order to weaken the potency and power of the church and scriptures, you just wait. You have long mistaken God's patience for inaction but very soon now your cups will get full.