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Explore2xmore:
Desperately looking for a means to validate your error or uphold your claim to medical expertise? Please do much better.

Which is correct please? The prophet was well enough to go on long journeys, hajj, fasting or he was persistently sick due to the effects of poisoning?

Cupping was a well-known treatment endorsed by the Prophet pbuh so you cannot authoritatively say you have conclusive evidence linking it directly to his response to the poisoning incident at Khaybar.

Please do a thorough job and don't rush back to post to reveal yourself.

AntiChristian:
But this your "exactly" is false! It looks exact in English but not so in Arabic.

So it's not exact!

That's why I requested you state the words translated in the Qur'an and hadith to Aorta!

SIRTee15:
I'm not going to indulge in your nonsense Arabic linguistics argument.

Erudite Arabic scholars have done a good job translating the Quran and hadiths to English.
If U think they did a poor job with the Arabic words they translated to aorta. Then it's your duty to bring the evidence here.

AntiChristian:
What are the names of the erudite scholars?
How are they erudite? Can we know their qualifications?

He that mentions a proverb in an in-law's place will have to interpret it.

I regard you as a liar. You said the word is exactly the same. But clearly it is not. It was translated exactly the same way but not as you said!

That's a big lie.

Then you accused me of being the mastermind of convincing the mods to transfer a post against Islam to islamic section.

Something I wasn't even aware of. Na so then go lie on your ass!

SIRTee15:
I think we done here - I hate it when people reject evidence because it goes against their claim.
If U want to reject your hadith, that's your business.
hiding behind medical pathophysiology to extricate your Prophet would not safe him.

Muhammed knew what killed him and he voiced it out while dying. The hadiths confirmed it.

Your hadith is clear- MUHAMMED SUFFERED FROM THE POISON EFFECT RIGHT FROM THE TIME HE INGESTED IT TILL HE DIED.
LEARN TO KISS THE TRUTH.

Now if you want us to deal with the actual pathophysiology of Muhammed's poison effect, I will educate U but first answer my question

Was Muhammed wrong to say the poison was still in his body during his terminal illness 3 yrs after consuming the poison.

Was Muhammed wrong to have attributed his terminal illness pain to the poison effect still in his body.

If the poison had left his body as U trying to claim, why did Muhammed groan that he was dying as a result of the poison effect still in his body.

Answer the questions and I will give U a proper teaching on the poison pathophysiology U confused about.

SIRTee15:
Allah said he will kill Muhammed by severing his aorta if he's ever caught lying in his name.

Muhammed cried out when he was dying that it feels like his aorta is being severed.

If U think the Arabic scholars did a shoddy job, then correct them by bringing the evidence here.

SIRTee15:
A Christian brother called mightysparrow created a topic called Islam And It's Impacts On Modern Day Yoruba People.
Note This thread was created by a Christian and not a Muslim.
People will not believe that the topic has been moved to the islamic section where U have to say the Shahada before U can comment.

The question is why? How did a topic created by a Christian brother end up in the islamic section?.

The trend of the thread extended to whether Muhammed was killed by Allah because he was a false prophet.
I brought evidence from the hadith and Quran to support the assertion that Allah killed Muhammed by severing his aorta possibly because he was a false prophet.

No Muslim could refute my claim. All they yapping about was the so called richness of Arabic language and the pathophysiology of poison/aortic disease.

The challenge for muslims was why did Muhammed described the illness that killed him exactly the way Allah said he would kill Muhammed if he's ever caught lying.

Next thing I noticed was they moved the topic to islamic section so that the topic could be killed.

If Muslims are embarrassed by their Prophet, that's their business not mine or any other Christian. But they shouldn't control a thread not created by them by bullying or intimidating moderators to move it to islamic section.

There was no blasphemous statement against Muhammed on the thread. Everything we Christians wrote was deducted from their books.

Above is criticism and not blasphemy. Muslims should learn the difference.
Criticising Muhammed is not the same as blasphemy against him.
Most matured Christians here don't even bother about mocking their prophet or anything like that. We simply point them to the truth in their own books which apparently Muslims don't like.

Muslims should stop behaving like cowards and learn to defend their prophet and their religion. If it's the truth, they should not be ashamed of it.

Muslims are so embarrassed by the way and manners their prophet died they didn't want the thread alive anymore- they want it dead.

Imagine the deception. If U are so proud of your prophet. Why are U scared of his dark side?

Here is what the argument is all about just to let all of u know this not a case of blasphemy or anything.

cc: MightySparrow TenQ ANTIlSLAM innotutorial FxMasterz advocatejare PROVERBZ GothamCities

Explore2xmore:
Reject evidence?

Did prophet Muhammad pbuh practice cupping for sickness?

What proof is there that all cupping done after the Khaybar expedition was for poison effect if he practiced cupping for other ailments before this?

So all bacteria as an example are equally sensitive to the same type of antibiotics? Is this how you practice medicine?

I didn't state unequivocally the poison had left his body but ask you to find medical evidence of singular exposure to food poisoning lasting for years before killing the subject and you are having gargantuan delusions. Keep silent so you don't convince people you don't know.

Obviously you have nothing unquestionable to prove your case. Make sure you know what you are talking about before making statements.

AntiChristian:
Stop the lies! Allah never mentioned "Aorta"!
Who are the Arabic scholarship you don't even know?

Na me even get time dey argue with a deluded and ignorant liar!

Same foolish argument from David Wood over a decade ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6st_tFj6ouM

That have been rebutted comprehensively https://www.call-to-monotheism.com/prophet_muhammad__peace_be_upon_him__and_the_taking_of_poison

SIRTee15:
So both al wateen in the Quran and Al abahr in hadith denotes blood vessels. Then what's the difference!!!!

I even thought they would mean different organs with different functions. Not knowing is same blood vessels for both words.

U guys are jokers.

Allah is saying if we ever catch Muhammed lying in our name, we will grab him and kill him by severing his blood vessels- meaning he will bleed to death.

Muhammed cried out he's dying and seems like the poison has cut through his blood vessels - meaning he's bleeding to death.

Pls how is this different!!!!
In case U dont know, U only made things worse for Muhammed because U actually confirmed Muhammed died the way Allah said he would kill him if he's ever caught lying- bleed to death.

Btw the definition of Al wateen is medical nonsense- there's no blood vessel extending from the head to the feet thru the back. That's medical ignorance in display.

That such word could enter the Qur'an supposedly dictated by an all knowing Allah shows his level of medical illiteracy.

U guys should continue exposing your dirty linen outside, we enjoying the show.

The Abhar is a vein that originates from the head and extends to the feet.

He then proceeds to say, after assigning names to specific veins and their respective locations in the human body:

And it extends to the back and is called al-wateen.

So here we observe that al-wateen is actually a part of al-abhar. This is why al-wateen is sometimes used synonymously with al-abhar in some dictionaries. However, it can't be said vice versa, for Al-abhar doesn't necessarily refer to al-wateen.

MightySparrow:
Thanks for drawing my attention to it. I never knew that. Islam or lielam as I to call is all lies.

SIRTee15:
A Christian brother called mightysparrow created a topic called Islam And It's Impacts On Modern Day Yoruba People.
Note This thread was created by a Christian and not a Muslim.
People will not believe that the topic has been moved to the islamic section where U have to say the Shahada before U can comment.

The question is why? How did a topic created by a Christian brother end up in the islamic section?.

The trend of the thread extended to whether Muhammed was killed by Allah because he was a false prophet.
I brought evidence from the hadith and Quran to support the assertion that Allah killed Muhammed by severing his aorta possibly because he was a false prophet.

No Muslim could refute my claim. All they yapping about was the so called richness of Arabic language and the pathophysiology of poison/aortic disease.

The challenge for muslims was why did Muhammed described the illness that killed him exactly the way Allah said he would kill Muhammed if he's ever caught lying.

Next thing I noticed was they moved the topic to islamic section so that the topic could be killed.

If Muslims are embarrassed by their Prophet, that's their business not mine or any other Christian. But they shouldn't control a thread not created by them by bullying or intimidating moderators to move it to islamic section.

There was no blasphemous statement against Muhammed on the thread. Everything we Christians wrote was deducted from their books.

Above is criticism and not blasphemy. Muslims should learn the difference.
Criticising Muhammed is not the same as blasphemy against him.
Most matured Christians here don't even bother about mocking their prophet or anything like that. We simply point them to the truth in their own books which apparently Muslims don't like.

Muslims should stop behaving like cowards and learn to defend their prophet and their religion. If it's the truth, they should not be ashamed of it.

Muslims are so embarrassed by the way and manners their prophet died they didn't want the thread alive anymore- they want it dead.

Imagine the deception. If U are so proud of your prophet. Why are U scared of his dark side?

Here is what the argument is all about just to let all of u know this not a case of blasphemy or anything.

cc: MightySparrow TenQ ANTIlSLAM innotutorial FxMasterz advocatejare PROVERBZ GothamCities

AntiisIam:
They must lie to strengthen islam while we'll be exposing the dark and evil side of their notorious pedophile warlord messenger Muhammad that was poisoned to death like a useless rat

SIRTee15:
Did U read the link I sent U on poisoning or U started your crazy unsubstantiated argument again.

Don't worry, just swallow a sip of industrial acid...just a sip. Since it's just a sip, I'm sure u will overcome the initial toxic effect on your system.
Only that we will make good money out of U treating your chronic esophagitis and gastritis till U die.
Shebi U want to prove stupid to extricate Muhammed.

Regarding what your prophet did with cupping, your answer is here...
Once again kiss the truth unless U want to tell me U know better than muhammed's companions

Explore2xmore:
Anas felt the effect not the prophet himself? How? Can you feel another persons Uvula by looking?

advocatejare:
Atenuje lopa Muhamo
AntiChristian and his likes are ashamed of that fact!

AntiisIam:
They must lie to strengthen islam while we'll be exposing the dark and evil side of their notorious pedophile warlord messenger Muhammad that was poisoned to death like a useless rat

AntiChristian:
Is that what you can clearly see in the link above? Chai! Now i know you can see but have no sight!

Yeah, that's why you couldn't say anything before!

You guys are liars!



So in essence you brought the same medical illiteracy to counter us right? Can't you see the foolishness in what you are typing?

How much of the nervous system do you even know apart from the normal circulatory system organs, veins, arteries and capillaries? You believe only in scientific medicine because your religion has no such field! We believe in all forms of medicine in so far as it doesn't involve disbelief. You seem drunk like the Biblical description "Then the Lord awoke as from sleep, like a mighty warrior overcome by wine." Psalm 76:65. You don't have a monopoly of abusive mouth!

Which show are you enjoying when you are trying to define our religion for us you liar?

AntiChristian:
Na so Jesus and John the Baptist die!

Jesus yin ku tu e! Just as the ram we dey kill!

SIRTee15:
Oga there's no such thing as vein extending from head to feet. It's medical jargon.

Anywhere I did my own independent research on meaning of Al wateen and Al abahr and they both mean the Same thing.

Your scholars are correct. They were right in thier translation.

You guys are the one doing wuruwuru....

advocatejare:
They didn’t die of atenuje like Muhammad who claimed to have terrorized people

His death was foretold, he died and resurrected the third day and we are telling everyone about it because his death had meanings and brought redemption to humanity

On the other hand, Muhammad died like a common rat who couldn’t control his cravings for food, and he was left unburied for 3 days and left to rot. His death had no meaning, o ku ti adiye ti koli gbe

AntiChristian:
Hope no one will vex if we call Christianity by the name Christ-lie?

Na eye for eye we dey here o!

MightySparrow:
What about sexlam?
Warlam?
Terrorism?

TenQ:
And information abound in this religion of falsehood to even warn those captured by the spirit of islam that is leading them straight to hell BUT they wouldn't even try to open their eyes and be free

AntiChristian:
Are you sure? They gave Jesus vinegar on the cross! And he drink am! No be atenuje be that?

Forget all the lies! God no dey die!

advocatejare:
Oh. So you now believe that Jesus was on the cross and that your Quran lied that he was not the one. I’m happy that your brain is getting cleaned now.

So you believe that Jesus if God?

FxMasterz:
Please expose the information. Who knows what God would do in the lives of those who'll read the exposure?

AntiChristian:
Jesus substitute = Jesus of Rome = Jesus of the Bible! That's your Jesus! Whenever i talk to you it's about this your Jesus!

God no dey die nor become man!

AntiChristian:
AI translation?

Chai! Chai Chai!

Your AI gave you what you want based on your antecedent!

AntiChristian:
And we go dey get plenty rebuttals!

It's December again! Make we start reminding people of the idolatry of Christmas!

FxMasterz:
You see yourself?

You're preparing for rebuttals even when you're yet to see the expositions?

It shows that you're not all about the truth. You're all about religion, and the lies of the religion do not even matter.

SIRTee15:
Don't bring any Muslim source here. I need independent source not a fake source saying medical jargon like a vein extending from the head to the feet.

advocatejare:
Carry your frustration to go and meet Sahih Muslim.

Muhammad also said that the poisoned food caused the sickness that killed him. Are you saying that Muhammad was not sane when he said that?