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Re: The HONDA Club by Bola4boy(m): 3:56pm On Dec 01, 2024
Macmilla:
Wrong.
Yes the fan cools mainly the radiator, but it also circulate air through the engine for more or less direct cooling.
The cooling system (including the radiator) is a pressurized system when working and the pressure is achieved with increased temperature. Constant cooling means the required pressure will be difficult to achieve.
If the radiator is very cool while the engine is very hot, imagine what will happen when the cool coolant from the radiator hits the very hot engine. Metals do not like rapid cooling (quenching).
Cool coolant on one side of the thermostat and very hot coolant on the other side means the thermostat will not work appropriately.
As the thermostat opens, cool coolant rushes into the engine, cooling it rapidly. Then the thermostat will close fast (due to the cool coolant) and the engine temperature will rise again. This cycle will keep raising and crashing the engine temperatre, confusing your ECU.
In all these, you will hardly achieve closed loop. Failure to get to closed loop means your ECU will continue dumping fuel in your engine, trying to warm up.
Lastly, your fan takes some energy to run. This energy is drawn from your alternator. Your alternator draws from the energy produced by the engine. This means that constantly running the fan is taking reasonable energy from your engine. This will stress your alternator and reduce its life span and also further increase fuel consumption.
Hummm, I quite agree..
Re: The HONDA Club by skywalker240(m): 5:31pm On Dec 01, 2024
Proud Civic owner

2003 Honda Civic
Re: The HONDA Club by skywalker240(m): 5:34pm On Dec 01, 2024
Cryomancer:
You got the drill,

who wouldn't want to be an admin just like the same way being an admin made you a billionaire right?
grin
Re: The HONDA Club by ahmadmg: 6:49pm On Dec 01, 2024
Macmilla:
Wrong.
Yes the fan cools mainly the radiator, but it also circulate air through the engine for more or less direct cooling.
The cooling system (including the radiator) is a pressurized system when working and the pressure is achieved with increased temperature. Constant cooling means the required pressure will be difficult to achieve.
If the radiator is very cool while the engine is very hot, imagine what will happen when the cool coolant from the radiator hits the very hot engine. Metals do not like rapid cooling (quenching).
Cool coolant on one side of the thermostat and very hot coolant on the other side means the thermostat will not work appropriately.
As the thermostat opens, cool coolant rushes into the engine, cooling it rapidly. Then the thermostat will close fast (due to the cool coolant) and the engine temperature will rise again. This cycle will keep raising and crashing the engine temperatre, confusing your ECU.
In all these, you will hardly achieve closed loop. Failure to get to closed loop means your ECU will continue dumping fuel in your engine, trying to warm up.
Lastly, your fan takes some energy to run. This energy is drawn from your alternator. Your alternator draws from the energy produced by the engine. This means that constantly running the fan is taking reasonable energy from your engine. This will stress your alternator and reduce its life span and also further increase fuel consumption.
I recently bought a used 07 accord and the fans were connected directly and i noticed it's idling high and it's consuming fuel, i used a scan tool to scan for codes, these are the codes

Re: The HONDA Club by Cryomancer(op): 11:48am On Dec 02, 2024
skywalker240:
Proud Civic owner

2003 Honda Civic
Nice car you've got there Sir, I hope you're really taking care of her. There was a time I wanted to get that same same but it was just too low and has small cabin space for my liking. I needed it for a sporty redesign and tune-up project I intended embarking on.
Re: The HONDA Club by Cryomancer(op): 11:53am On Dec 02, 2024
ahmadmg:
I recently bought a used 07 accord and the fans were connected directly and i noticed it's idling high and it's consuming fuel, i used a scan tool to scan for codes, these are the codes
These are changeable sensors and doesn't require any major works. A competent auto-rewire should be able to get all these done. If you're also a DIY fan, you can go source for some of these sensors and have them changed yourself.

The ABS sensor will involve bringing down your tires. And I'll advise you get brand new so as to save yourself headaches.
Re: The HONDA Club by Cryomancer(op): 11:57am On Dec 02, 2024
dalitigator:
Please I need the contact of any good gear master at Oyingbo. And directions on how to get there from Marina or Costain. Thanks.
I don't have anybody I would like to recommend. But as for the direction to Oyingbo, just type Willoughby Street on your map and it will get you down there. From costain, drive straight to apapa-road and use the newly constructed bridge, then descend the bridge and cut to your left hand side towards yaba road. The map should guide you better.
Re: The HONDA Club by Macmilla(m): 9:17pm On Dec 02, 2024
dalitigator:
My fan were connected directly. How do we fix this?
I can't really answer this question because I don't know exactly how they did what they did. Start with a trusted electrician that really understands how a car should work and let him detect where the abuse is.
Re: The HONDA Club by Macmilla(m): 9:20pm On Dec 02, 2024
ahmadmg:
I recently bought a used 07 accord and the fans were connected directly and i noticed it's idling high and it's consuming fuel, i used a scan tool to scan for codes, these are the codes
You have a lot of codes there. I see your battery failed at a point. A low voltage battery can make some systems throw codes in some cars. Start by clearing all codes and rice the car and see what comes back.
Re: The HONDA Club by Anticannibal(m): 9:29pm On Dec 02, 2024
CAN SOME ONE HELP ME WITH WHAT I NEED TO DO TO RECTIFY ERROR P0948 ON MY HONDA EOD 2003
Re: The HONDA Club by rapheal5(m): 9:31pm On Dec 02, 2024
Good day house, honda civic alternator was faulty it's over 3 months now but i went to fix it early last month. while i was driving the car to the rewire shop with his battery i didn't notice the car was running without the fan on and the temperature didnt rise on the cluster board..I got to know after i parked the car and hood was open then i noticed some water leaked at the top of the radiator like a sign of overheat, to cut it short after fixing the alternator on starting the car there i confirmed i drove the car there without the fan on so the rewire tried connecting the fan but only one fan works, its double cell radiator so he had to create a wire from the of the top of the engine to the fuse board before the 2 fan could run but it making a loud noise.....Is the connection right and what could be the reason why the fan is making noise and it runs faster than before....
Re: The HONDA Club by Cryomancer(op): 11:00pm On Dec 02, 2024
rapheal5:
Good day house, honda civic alternator was faulty it's over 3 months now but i went to fix it early last month. while i was driving the car to the rewire shop with his battery i didn't notice the car was running without the fan on and the temperature didnt rise on the cluster board..I got to know after i parked the car and hood was open then i noticed some water leaked at the top of the radiator like a sign of overheat, to cut it short after fixing the alternator on starting the car there i confirmed i drove the car there without the fan on so the rewire tried connecting the fan but only one fan works, its double cell radiator so he had to create a wire from the of the top of the engine to the fuse board before the 2 fan could run but it making a loud noise.....Is the connection right and what could be the reason why the fan is making noise and it runs faster than before....
I don't understand how the two fans were supposed to work if you didn't on your AC. was your AC on when you noticed none of the fans were working?

Only one fan is meant to cool your radiator, while the other one picks and stops simultaneously when your AC is on.

Rather than allowing the rewire to by-pass the fan, why not look for the root cause of the stoppage and fix it. I suspect a thermostat issue here.
Re: The HONDA Club by skywalker240(m): 11:08pm On Dec 02, 2024
Cryomancer:
Nice car you've got there Sir, I hope you're really taking care of her. There was a time I wanted to get that same same but it was just too low and has small cabin space for my liking. I needed it for a sporty redesign and tune-up project I intended embarking on.
Very much reliable lovely moving box.
Re: The HONDA Club by Cryomancer(op): 11:09pm On Dec 02, 2024
Anticannibal:
CAN SOME ONE HELP ME WITH WHAT I NEED TO DO TO RECTIFY ERROR P0948 ON MY HONDA EOD 2003
What are the symptoms/changes you observed in the vehicle first?

Common Causes of P0948

Faulty hydraulic pump relay
Wiring issues in the relay circuit
Voltage spikes in the circuit
Corrosion or damage to electrical connectors
Issues with the vehicle's battery or charging system

Check the relay and probably get a replacement to test on your vehicle.
Re: The HONDA Club by Anticannibal(m): 2:04am On Dec 03, 2024
Cryomancer:
What are the symptoms/changes you observed in the vehicle first?

Common Causes of P0948

Faulty hydraulic pump relay
Wiring issues in the relay circuit
Voltage spikes in the circuit
Corrosion or damage to electrical connectors
Issues with the vehicle's battery or charging system

Check the relay and probably get a replacement to test on your vehicle.
Sorry the right code is P0498
And the current obvious symptoms are hard starting when the engine is hot or cold, and lack of power when I try to accelerate.
Re: The HONDA Club by Cryomancer(op): 6:49am On Dec 03, 2024
Anticannibal:
Sorry the right code is P0498
And the current obvious symptoms are hard starting when the engine is hot or cold, and lack of power when I try to accelerate.
Your EVAP canister vent shut valve is the culprit.

This link below should be of great help to you.

https://www.nairaland.com/4303743/scanned-honda-codes

You can also get your EGR checked and cleaned in the process, it might also help improve your acceleration due to the removal of carbon buildup after cleaning. I once experienced this low acceleration and after scanning, it showed my EGR was bad. Car came back to life after I got a replacement.
Re: The HONDA Club by Macmilla(m): 7:06am On Dec 03, 2024
Anticannibal:
CAN SOME ONE HELP ME WITH WHAT I NEED TO DO TO RECTIFY ERROR P0948 ON MY HONDA EOD 2003
Is it a manual transmission?
Re: The HONDA Club by Macmilla(m): 7:13am On Dec 03, 2024
rapheal5:
Good day house, honda civic alternator was faulty it's over 3 months now but i went to fix it early last month. while i was driving the car to the rewire shop with his battery i didn't notice the car was running without the fan on and the temperature didnt rise on the cluster board..I got to know after i parked the car and hood was open then i noticed some water leaked at the top of the radiator like a sign of overheat, to cut it short after fixing the alternator on starting the car there i confirmed i drove the car there without the fan on so the rewire tried connecting the fan but only one fan works, its double cell radiator so he had to create a wire from the of the top of the engine to the fuse board before the 2 fan could run but it making a loud noise.....Is the connection right and what could be the reason why the fan is making noise and it runs faster than before....
In my car, the fan comes on and off as the ECU seems fit. This means that a lot of times, the fans will be off and that is perfectly normal.
You didn't mention any clear sign of overheating, so I'm pretty sure your engine didn't overheat, especially when you said the temp indicated on the dashboard didn't rise.
You had a radiator leak, but you didn't mention if you fixed it.
Lastly, stay far away from whoever did this connection for you. He is a demon of destruction. Find a good electrician that will correct that nonsense and fix the actual problem. PLEASE STOP BYPASSING ANYTHING IN YOUR CAR.
Re: The HONDA Club by Gombs(m): 7:16am On Dec 03, 2024
thebigkendo:
Converted?
Really dunno!


It came from Germany
Re: The HONDA Club by rapheal5(m): 10:41am On Dec 03, 2024
Cryomancer:
I don't understand how the two fans were supposed to work if you didn't on your AC. was your AC on when you noticed none of the fans were working?

Only one fan is meant to cool your radiator, while the other one picks and stops simultaneously when your AC is on.

Rather than allowing the rewire to by-pass the fan, why not look for the root cause of the stoppage and fix it. I suspect a thermostat issue here.
Well I bought the car used and only one fan was working when I bought it and ac isn’t working so it was after I fixed the ac that the second fan was connected… Can anybody suggest a good Rewire that can fix it back to normal here in Abeokuta ogun state…
Re: The HONDA Club by rapheal5(m): 10:44am On Dec 03, 2024
Macmilla:
In my car, the fan comes on and off as the ECU seems fit. This means that a lot of times, the fans will be off and that is perfectly normal.
You didn't mention any clear sign of overheating, so I'm pretty sure your engine didn't overheat, especially when you said the temp indicated on the dashboard didn't rise.
You had a radiator leak, but you didn't mention if you fixed it.
Lastly, stay far away from whoever did this connection for you. He is a demon of destruction. Find a good electrician that will correct that nonsense and fix the actual problem. PLEASE STOP BYPASSING ANYTHING IN YOUR CAR.
I didn’t ask him to bypass I guess he did because it’s getting late that day and I insisted on fixing the fan before I leave, that place is not secure enough to leave the car there over night…
Re: The HONDA Club by Gombs(m): 8:39pm On Dec 03, 2024
2cribz:
Aka acura tsx old model. Check the fuses at engine bay or whwrevee they hid it in the car.
i've cehcked..still
Re: The HONDA Club by youngaduco(m): 10:15pm On Dec 03, 2024
Abeg i need Honda civic one door, 2000 model
Re: The HONDA Club by 2cribz: 1:49pm On Dec 04, 2024
Fuel not aupplying to injectors.my car broke down last week,i had about 40 litres.not knowing where i did top up of 10 litrews,about 4litres fuel,6 litres water.if no be dangote fuel.u go hear am hot.injector go seize,fuel pump go dey on pending....
Gombs:
i've cehcked..still
Re: The HONDA Club by 2cribz: 1:50pm On Dec 04, 2024
Alaye dpnt bother doi g all that,my crv 2009 model fan was connected direct from berger,till i sold it,no overheating.pks look at.your hoses for cracks.naija is a dead country
rapheal5:
Well I bought the car used and only one fan was working when I bought it and ac isn’t working so it was after I fixed the ac that the second fan was connected… Can anybody suggest a good Rewire that can fix it back to normal here in Abeokuta ogun state…
Re: The HONDA Club by rapheal5(m): 1:54pm On Dec 04, 2024
2cribz:
Alaye dpnt bother doi g all that,my crv 2009 model fan was connected direct from berger,till i sold it,no overheating.pks look at.your hoses for cracks.naija is a dead country
Thanks boss
Re: The HONDA Club by 2cribz: 2:01pm On Dec 04, 2024
The hose going into injector mouth na koko. Check am for c,racks,leaks or water drops.b4 u leave ac man place,make sure the ac is turned on for 30mins and monitor temp guage.if e pass middle.e mean say the hose don sapa
rapheal5:
Thanks boss
Re: The HONDA Club by rapheal5(m): 2:07pm On Dec 04, 2024
2cribz:
The hose going into injector mouth na koko. Check am for c,racks,leaks or water drops.b4 u leave ac man place,make sure the ac is turned on for 30mins and monitor temp guage.if e pass middle.e mean say the hose don sapa
ok noted
Re: The HONDA Club by Macmilla(m): 11:55am On Dec 05, 2024
2cribz:
Alaye dpnt bother doi g all that,my crv 2009 model fan was connected direct from berger,till i sold it,no overheating.pks look at.your hoses for cracks.naija is a dead country
You drove a car with a permanently on radiator fan for years and you think you are alive? Seriously, you really think you are alive?
Re: The HONDA Club by Macmilla(m): 12:02pm On Dec 05, 2024
rapheal5:
ok noted
Note that a lot of the advice you will get here is nothing but poisonous garbage. It is on you to choose what to take and what to discard. Nobody owes you anything and you don't owe anyone anything. My people say that if the rat joins the lizard under the rain, if the lizard's body dries later, the rat's not will not. Some people will abuse a car for years and then sell the car when it is close to the grave. They will then come here and shout "I did it and I never complained till I sold it". Then the buyer will befriend a mechanic for life. All of us will still come and be shouting Nigeria is dead when we are the murderers.
Re: The HONDA Club by rapheal5(m): 12:28pm On Dec 05, 2024
Macmilla:
Note that a lot of the advice you will get here is nothing but poisonous garbage. It is on you to choose what to take and what to discard. Nobody owes you anything and you don't owe anyone anything. My people say that if the rat joins the lizard under the rain, if the lizard's body dries later, the rat's not will not. Some people will abuse a car for years and then sell the car when it is close to the grave. They will then come here and shout "I did it and I never complained till I sold it". Then the buyer will befriend a mechanic for life. All of us will still come and be shouting Nigeria is dead when we are the murderers.
I understand your point, the issue is where do I find a competent Rewire, most of those Rewire out there are only good at bypassing and cut and join…
Re: The HONDA Club by dalitigator(m): 6:13pm On Dec 05, 2024
Macmilla:
Note that a lot of the advice you will get here is nothing but poisonous garbage. It is on you to choose what to take and what to discard. Nobody owes you anything and you don't owe anyone anything. My people say that if the rat joins the lizard under the rain, if the lizard's body dries later, the rat's not will not. Some people will abuse a car for years and then sell the car when it is close to the grave. They will then come here and shout "I did it and I never complained till I sold it". Then the buyer will befriend a mechanic for life. All of us will still come and be shouting Nigeria is dead when we are the murderers.
Hmmmmm!
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