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Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:14am On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
Oga can't you also see the catholic version? Were you not the one that said that hell and Hades means the same thing?

Ecc
9:10
Bible

Smith's Literal Translation
All which thy hand shall find to do, with thy
strength, do thou; for no work and
understanding and knowledge and
wisdom, in hades where thou goest there

Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it
earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell,
whither thou art hastening
Solomon is talking about the grave. Physical pit.
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Michael547(m): 11:15am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
My dear, where did Solomon say hell?
Look at the catholic version below.

Ecc
9:10
Bible

Smith's Literal Translation
All which thy hand shall find to do, with thy
strength, do thou; for no work and
understanding and knowledge and
wisdom, in hades where thou goest there

Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it
earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell,
whither thou art hastening
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:15am On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
The blood of Abel also cried. So where does the Bible teach in Revelation and Genesis that it was a 'spirit' that was crying?
Are you deliberately trying to discredit the scriptures?

The Bible says that souls were crying under the altar! Souls of martyrs.
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Michael547(m): 11:16am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
Solomon is talking about the grave. Physical pit.
Which can rightly be translated as hades and hell according to the versions below
Ecc
9:10
Bible

Smith's Literal Translation
All which thy hand shall find to do, with thy
strength, do thou; for no work and
understanding and knowledge and
wisdom, in hades where thou goest there

Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it
earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell,
whither thou art hastening
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:16am On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
Which can rightly be translated as hades and hell according to the versions below
Ecc
9:10
Bible

Smith's Literal Translation
All which thy hand shall find to do, with thy
strength, do thou; for no work and
understanding and knowledge and
wisdom, in hades where thou goest there

Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it
earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell,
whither thou art hastening
Nope!
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:17am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
Did you not say Ecclesiastes said grave? Is grave not physical pit or are you now trying to change mouth?
Grave means the realm of the dead that's why Jonah referred to the belle of whale as his own grave or hell:

Out of my distress I called out to Jehovah, and he answered me. Out of the depths of the Grave I cried for help. You heard my voice. Jonah 2:2 NWT

And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice. KJV


He said: “In my distress I called to the Lord, and he answered me. From deep in the realm of the dead I called for help, and you listened to my cry. NIV‬


Humble yourself and learn!
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:17am On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
The blood of Abel also cried. So where does the Bible teach in Revelation and Genesis that it was a 'spirit' that was crying?
Genesis says blood cried.

Revelation said Souls cried.

So, what are you saying?

In both scenarios, dead people are active!
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Michael547(m): 11:17am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
Are you deliberately trying to discredit the scriptures?

The Bible says that souls were crying under the altar! Souls of martyrs.
Is soul and spirit the same?
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Michael547(m): 11:18am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
Genesis says blood cried.

Revelation said Souls cried.

So, what are you saying?
Is soul and spirit the same? So where are you seeing spirit?
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:18am On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
Is soul and spirit the same?
They dwell in the same entity.
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Michael547(m): 11:18am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
Nope!
Bring your evidence against those translations
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Michael547(m): 11:19am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
They dwell in the same entity.
Which entity? Explain
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:19am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
My friend, dead martyrs complained to God in the book of Revelation!
Revelations is not events that happened but prophecies to be studied and understood! Revelations 22:18-19
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:20am On Dec 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Grave means the realm of the dead that's why Jonah referred to the belle of whale as his own grave or hell:

Out of my distress I called out to Jehovah, and he answered me. Out of the depths of the Grave I cried for help. You heard my voice. Jonah 2:2 NWT

And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice. KJV


He said: “In my distress I called to the Lord, and he answered me. From deep in the realm of the dead I called for help, and you listened to my cry. NIV‬


Humble yourself and learn!
Grave is the pit. Everyone knows that .
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:21am On Dec 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Revelations is not events that happened but prophecies to be studied and understood! Revelations 22:18-19
And what do prophecies do? They deceive events that will happen!
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:21am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
Grave is the pit. Everyone knows that .
Except Jonah! cheesy
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:22am On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
Which entity? Explain
I'm not here to teach you that!

I'm here to show you that spirits in prison were the souls of those who disobeyed the preaching of Noah according to Peter!
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:23am On Dec 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Except Jonah! cheesy
Show me the pit where Jonah went.
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:23am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
And what do prophecies do? They deceive events that will happen!
Revelations are written in SIGNS to be studied not something literally explained! Revelations 1:1 smiley
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:24am On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
Bring your evidence against those translations
Check the Hebrews interlinear if you want to learn. It's grave. Not hell.
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:25am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
Show me the pit where Jonah went.
Jonah is a Jew and prophet of God so he knew what grave means that's why he referred to the belle of the fish as his own GRAVE! cheesy
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Michael547(m): 11:25am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
Check the Hebrews interlinear if you want to learn. It's grave. Not hell.
What is the Hebrew word for grave according to the Hebrews interlinear?
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:26am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
I'm not here to teach you that!

I'm here to show you that spirits in prison were the souls of those who disobeyed the preaching of Noah according to Peter!
LIE!

DEAD people are in their graves awaiting resurrection {John 5:28-29} it's fallen angels that are imprisoned according to God's word! wink
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:27am On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
What is the Hebrew word for grave according to the Hebrews interlinear?
Perhaps you don't have hands to search for it yourself.

This is meta AI!

Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Michael547(m): 11:27am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
I'm not here to teach you that!

I'm here to show you that spirits in prison were the souls of those who disobeyed the preaching of Noah according to Peter!
🤣🤣🤣false teacher cannot prove what entity the soul and spirit dwell.
Can you kindly show me where Peter mentioned 'souls' as those who were in prisons?
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Michael547(m): 11:29am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
Perhaps you don't have hands to search for it yourself.

This is meta AI!
So can't you see that sheol and Hades can be used for grave?

What is the Hebrew word used in Ecclesiastics 9:10? That is the question that I am asking you. Don't you agree that hades is hell again?
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:29am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
Perhaps you don't have hands to search for it yourself.
This is meta AI!
But the reference says Shoel, Hades and Grave means the same thing nah! cheesy
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:30am On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
🤣🤣🤣false teacher cannot prove what entity the soul and spirit dwell.
Can you kindly show me where Peter mentioned 'souls' as those who were in prisons?
False teacher fraudulently disregard the Bible to show forth his demonic doctrines on this thread.

How many things should I teach you. I've expose your falsehoods long enough!

I should start teaching you again about Spirits, souls and bodies? Create a thread for that and get teachers!
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:31am On Dec 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
But the reference says Shoel, Hades and Grave means the same thing nah! cheesy
I know you're not sincere. Now, underline the parts that say so!
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Michael547(m): 11:32am On Dec 04, 2024
GothamCities:
False teacher fraudulently disregard the Bible to show forth his demonic doctrines on this thread.

How many things should I teach you. I've expose your falsehoods long enough!

I should start teaching you again about Spirits, souls and bodies? Create a thread for that and get teachers!
Lol....baba I am with you na......show me where Peter said 'souls' were in prison......don't run away oo.....what entity does soul and spirit dwell?
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:32am On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
So can't you see that sheol and Hades can be used for grave?

What is the Hebrew word used in Ecclesiastics 9:10? That is the question that I am asking you. Don't you agree that hades is hell again?
Even AI said they're often used interchangeably but they're not the same. It went ahead to state the differences. Are you an illiterate?
Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by GothamCities: 11:32am On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
Lol....baba I am with you na......show me where Peter said 'souls' were in prison......don't run away oo.....what entity does soul and spirit dwell?
Quote and show me where Peter didn't say souls!
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