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Kog45:
Fans criticized Osimhen against Ghana

Now compare that to the multitude of fans who defended him against those so called criticisms. That's my point. There will always be exceptions but what matters is the majority. Majority always carries the vote. Osimhen is the Super Eagles' favourite child for a reason.

COOL10:
Now compare that to the multitude of fans who defended him against those so called criticisms. That's my point. There will always be exceptions but what matters is the majority. Majority always carries the vote. Osimhen is the Super Eagles' favourite child for a reason.

Go to super eagles social spaces and see how people hate Osimhen
Some people even still carry that finidi matter for head till today

COOL10:
How many strikers have clicked for the Super Eagles apart from Osimhen and Iheanacho? Bro, I don't where you were when I made the initial comparisons but in case you missed it, here's the updated list:


Sadiq Umar has 1 goal in 12 matches for the Super Eagles.

Paul Onuachu has 3 goals in 25 matches for the Super Eagles.

Awoniyi has 2 goals in 10 matches for the Super Eagles.

Boniface has 1 goal in 11 matches for the Super Eagles.

Cyriel Dessers has 2 goals in 6 matches for the Super Eagles and those 2 goals came from 2 starts. 1 against Mexico and another against Ghana( 2 teams that are not easy to score against).


As you can see, Dessers has a better goal per game ratio for the Super Eagles than most, if not all of the strikers I mentioned above apart from Osimhen and Iheanacho, yet they keep getting multiple invites ahead of him.


Dessers is one of the few Nigerian players who decided to play for us despite the fact that he could have easily played for the country of his birth/naturalization. The other players I can think of are Iwobi, Victor Moses and perhaps Lookman.


As at the time Dessers decided to play for us, the only Belgian striker that had a better goal scoring record than him was Lukaku. Every other Belgian striker was beneath Dessers. Even Lois Openda was nowhere to be found. I made the comparisons on this thread some years back.


If Dessers decides to play for Belgium tomorrow, he's walking into that team WITH EASE, especially now that Openda isn't performing well, but I know he won't because he loves Nigeria so much.

Pls can you gives us minutes played stats of our strikers in eagles.

COOL10:
Now compare that to the multitude of fans who defended him against those so called criticisms. That's my point. There will always be exceptions but what matters is the majority. Majority always carries the vote. Osimhen is the Super Eagles' favourite child for a reason.

I'm not getting your point on criticism...are you saying a must to criticize a player even if he is performing cuz Osimhen has not had any woeful performance in eagles that would warrant heavy criticisms

Samueltemi337:
Go to super eagles social spaces and see how people hate Osimhen
Some people even still carry that finidi matter for head till today

I'm talking about on-the-field performances and not off-the-field. That Finidi issue is an off-the-field occurrence. Besides I don't think anyone who criticises Osimhen based on the Finidi issue hates him. They just feel he could have handled that situation better, and they're right. People need to understand the difference between criticisms and hatred.



Has Osimhen ever had to lock his comments section because of constant death threats from Nigerian fans? Has Osimhen ever had to lock his comments section because of constant death threats to his family members?
These are things that Ighalo, Iwobi and Maduka all faced.


Osimhen never chop criticism oh, trust me. He's a learner in that area 😄

Kog45:
I'm not getting your point on criticism...are you saying a must to criticize a player even if he is performing cuz Osimhen has not had any woeful performance in eagles that would warrant heavy criticisms

We should criticize him when there's nothing to criticize

COOL10:
I'm talking about on-the-field performances and not off-the-field. That Finidi issue is an off-the-field occurrence. Besides I don't think anyone who criticises Osimhen based on the Finidi issue hates him. They just feel he could have handled that situation better, and they're right. People need to understand the difference between criticisms and hatred.



Has Osimhen ever had to lock his comments section because of constant death threats from Nigerian fans? Has Osimhen ever had to lock his comments section because of constant death threats to his family members?
These are things that Ighalo, Iwobi and Maduka all faced.


Osimhen never chop criticism oh, trust me. He's a learner in that area 😄

Like Kog45 said
What has Osimhen done that warrant criticism?

Samueltemi337:
Go to super eagles social spaces and see how people hate Osimhen
Some people even still carry that finidi matter for head till today

Osimhen goofed on Finidi matter and anyone supporting him on that is not helping him.

Kog45:
I'm not getting your point on criticism...are you saying a must to criticize a player even if he is performing cuz Osimhen has not had any woeful performance in eagles that would warrant heavy criticisms

My point is simple. When a player underperforms, despite your love for that player, be mature enough to put your sentiments aside and criticize that player for performing poorly.


The thing is that, as Nigerians, we don't like telling ourselves the truth. Osimhen had a terrible AFCON outing. An African Player of the Year scoring just one goal in the entire tournament and missing the most chances (13) is a woeful performance.


Most Nigerians will argue with you and tell you to forget about that because he knows how to mark and put pressure on defenders, forgetting that the number one goal of a striker is to put the ball in the back of the net. Osimhen didn't win the African Player of the Year award by putting pressure on defenders, he won it because of the goals he scored and trophy he won with Napoli.


Imagine what would have happened if the likes of Lookman and Ekong didn't step up at the AFCON. We won't even have gotten out of the group stage.

Samueltemi337:
Like Kog45 said
What has Osimhen done that warrant criticism?

Read my reply to him

COOL10:
My point is simple. When a player underperforms, despite your love for that player, be mature enough to put your sentiments aside and criticize that player for performing poorly.


The thing is that, as Nigerians, we don't like telling ourselves the truth. Osimhen had a terrible AFCON outing. An African Player of the Year scoring just one goal in the entire tournament and missing the most chances (13) is a woeful performance.


Most Nigerians will argue with you and tell you to forget about that because he knows how to mark and put pressure on defenders, forgetting that the number one goal of a striker is to put the ball in the back of the net. Osimhen didn't win the African Player of the Year award by putting pressure on defenders, he won it because of the goals he scored and trophy he won with Napoli.


Imagine what would have happened if the likes of Lookman and Ekong didn't step up at the AFCON. We won't even have gotten out of the group stage.

bros na lie….dont use the word terrible for Osimhen when analyzing his afcon numbers…
Nig 1- 1 EQG (osimhen scores)
Nig 1-0 CIV (Ekong scored the penalty, osimhen was fouled on an almost 1 on 1 situation vs CIV keeper)
Nig 1- 0 GNB(Simon wing cross out, osimhen was right closely behind the defender that scored the own goal)
Nig 2-0 Cam(Lookman 2goals..osimhen wrestling down a defender to give an on running free lookman for the opening goal)
Nig 1-0 Ang (scored a sweet header against angola, but canceled)
NiG 1-1 SA (Ekong scored, osimhen won us a penalty facing the goalkeeper after been brought down in the 18yard box, scored another beautiful goal that was disallowed due to alhassan fouling SA player before the goal)
It was only in the final and maybe against GNB that osimhen did not make an assist or score a goal.
Dont tag his afcon numbers as terrible…i no gree..na big lie.
Look for another match to tag osimhen as terrible not afcon where he contributed 90% to our second place finish

Kog45:
Pls can you gives us minutes played stats of our strikers in eagles.

Here are the minutes played of the players I mentioned:

Awoniyi: 426 minutes

Saqiq: 309 minutes

Onuachu: 797 minutes

Boniface: 591 minutes

Dessers: 322 minutes


You can see that even by minutes played, Cyriel Dessers has a better goal scoring record in the Super Eagles than those particular players.

COOL10:
My point is simple. When a player underperforms, despite your love for that player, be mature enough to put your sentiments aside and criticize that player for performing poorly.


The thing is that, as Nigerians, we don't like telling ourselves the truth. Osimhen had a terrible AFCON outing. An African Player of the Year scoring just one goal in the entire tournament and missing the most chances (13) is a woeful performance.


Most Nigerians will argue with you and tell you to forget about that because he knows how to mark and put pressure on defenders, forgetting that the number one goal of a striker is to put the ball in the back of the net. Osimhen didn't win the African Player of the Year award by putting pressure on defenders, he won it because of the goals he scored and trophy he won with Napoli.


Imagine what would have happened if the likes of Lookman and Ekong didn't step up at the AFCON. We won't even have gotten out of the group stage.

-imagine what would have happened if Osimhen had not wrestled that defender to set up lookman free goal.
-Imagine what would have happened if osimhen had not been brought down in second match vs CIV…ekong for see penalty score?
-Imagine what would have happen if Osimhen had not given Ekong another penalty chance against SA, shey him for see goal score?.
Osimhen did not score goals at the afcon but he was not terrible

minfelix:
-imagine what would have happened if Osimhen had not wrestled that defender to set up lookman free goal.
-Imagine what would have happened if osimhen had not been brought down in second match vs CIV…ekong for see penalty score?
-Imagine what would have happen if Osimhen had not given Ekong another penalty chance against SA, shey him for see goal score?.
Osimhen did not score goals at the afcon but he was not terrible

Guy, why do you like disgracing yourself like this? How many times are you going to prove that you lack the capacity to engage in logical conversations?


You're always too eager to argue, so much that you don't even realise when you are proving my point. The two statements you quoted me with proved the exact points I made to Kog45, but you're just too emotional and illogical to see them. You're supporting me without even knowing that you're supporting me


Everytime you go dey jump on my mentions uninvited; so desperate for my attention and validation. 🤣 Guy shift abeg, I don't have your time today. This is my first and last reply to you on this topic. Find someone else to argue with.

I've barely even said much about Osimhen yet about three people have already come out to defend him, yet they claim that Osimhen has a lot of critics.


I know more defenders will come. . They keep proving my points every single time. I'm loving it

COOL10:
Here are the minutes played of the players I mentioned:

Awoniyi: 426 minutes

Saqiq: 309 minutes

Onuachu: 797 minutes

Boniface: 591 minutes

Dessers: 322 minutes


You can see that even by minutes played, Cyriel Dessers has a better goal scoring record in the Super Eagles than those particular players.

Good bro but can you give me their starting stats not coming from the bench minutes....

minfelix:
-imagine what would have happened if Osimhen had not wrestled that defender to set up lookman free goal.
-Imagine what would have happened if osimhen had not been brought down in second match vs CIV…ekong for see penalty score?
-Imagine what would have happen if Osimhen had not given Ekong another penalty chance against SA, shey him for see goal score?.
Osimhen did not score goals at the afcon but he was not terrible

wait oh,did you praise any player for doing the same for Osimhen and others cuz we have seen players wrestling and doing a lot of stuffs in assisting for goals

COOL10:
I've barely even said much about Osimhen yet about three people have already come out to defend him, yet they claim that Osimhen has a lot of critics.


I know more defenders will come. . They keep proving my points every single time. I'm loving it

Imagine say Dessers lead our line for Afcon you think say we for smell finals
Abi nor be the same Dessers we see against Mali
Dessers, sadiq, Onuachu and Awoniyi na the same WhatsApp group them dey
We should move away from these people

COOL10:
I've barely even said much about Osimhen yet about three people have already come out to defend him, yet they claim that Osimhen has a lot of critics.


I know more defenders will come. . They keep proving my points every single time. I'm loving it

Are you criticizing Osimhen for not scoring goals or poor performance in Afcon?

DeloitteNG:
Imagine say Dessers lead our line for Afcon you think say we for smell finals
Abi nor be the same Dessers we see against Mali
Dessers, sadiq, Onuachu and Awoniyi na the same WhatsApp group them dey
We should move away from these people

Which whatsapp group Boniface dey.

DeloitteNG:
Imagine say Dessers lead our line for Afcon you think say we for smell finals
Abi nor be the same Dessers we see against Mali
Dessers, sadiq, Onuachu and Awoniyi na the same WhatsApp group them dey
We should move away from these people

Why did you omitted Boniface....my Man fact,we don't believe in these guys and any mistake we take them on,just check their minutes and see criticisms they received.....I can only blame Onuachu considering his caps with eagles.

zicky:
Which whatsapp group Boniface dey.

No o we are waiting for Boniface goals

COOL10:
Now compare that to the multitude of fans who defended him against those so called criticisms. That's my point. There will always be exceptions but what matters is the majority. Majority always carries the vote. Osimhen is the Super Eagles' favourite child for a reason.

no let nairaland bubble deceive you. person wey dey chop slander for Twitter and Facebook Wella. Better expand your horizon no let nairaland deceive you. I don see person wey call am oh semen as slander name.

COOL10:
I've barely even said much about Osimhen yet about three people have already come out to defend him, yet they claim that Osimhen has a lot of critics.


I know more defenders will come. . They keep proving my points every single time. I'm loving it

pointing out fact is defending? You basically said he ghosted the Afcon and they pointed out how he was vital to our final run but you call it defending, continue with your agenda

Amedino99:
no let nairaland bubble deceive you. person wey dey chop slander for Twitter and Facebook Wella. Better expand your horizon no let nairaland deceive you. I don see person wey call am oh semen as slander name.

This thread represent real football talking about eagles,X and Facebook critics are more of bla bla,many out of football context

Kog45:
wait oh,did you praise any player for doing the same for Osimhen and others cuz we have seen players wrestling and doing a lot of stuffs in assisting for goals

Kanu has no Afcon goal but anybody will tell you he was very vital in 2000 and 2004 Afcon

zicky:
Which whatsapp group Boniface dey.

Boniface will come through
I believe he will

COOL10:
Guy, why do you like disgracing yourself like this? How many times are you going to prove that you lack the capacity to engage in logical conversations?


You're always too eager to argue, so much that you don't even realise when you are proving my point. The two statements you quoted me with proved the exact points I made to Kog45, but you're just too emotional and illogical to see them. You're supporting me without even knowing that you're supporting me


Everytime you go dey jump on my mentions uninvited; so desperate for my attention and validation. 🤣 Guy shift abeg, I don't have your time today. This is my first and last reply to you on this topic. Find someone else to argue with.

if i have not started my disagreement with you on a terrible insulting level, then you should not have insulted me…
but since you have done that, i can kindly say you are a very STUPID man fellow.
once again your useless illogical analysis is whack if you think osimhen was terrible at the afcon….u dont have sense at all to have used the term terrible…Osimhen was not clinical in front of goal, but he was 90% very instrumental to our afcon near success.

wetin your useless attention wan give me…anyone that says or analyzes any thing that i feel i dont agree with here on nairaland, i will quote the person and disagree….who the F are you that i should not quote what you have said….abeg shift enter bush ewu…be you anybody, if i see an analysis i dont agree with i will humbly object…who u be that i should be looking for your attention…iwu ewu!
if you reply me again, then you be mumu…
nairaland is a place of agreement and disagreement, and ofcos the point you raised is a controversial one…saying osimhen was terrible at the Afcon must surely raise one or two eyebrow, given the work input osimhen put in at the afcon…..oga i no f**king send you oo…i will quote you or anyone that drops any analysis that seems controversial……carry your f**king attention enter sambisa forest…ode!

COOL10:
Guy, why do you like disgracing yourself like this? How many times are you going to prove that you lack the capacity to engage in logical conversations?


You're always too eager to argue, so much that you don't even realise when you are proving my point. The two statements you quoted me with proved the exact points I made to Kog45, but you're just too emotional and illogical to see them. You're supporting me without even knowing that you're supporting me


Everytime you go dey jump on my mentions uninvited; so desperate for my attention and validation. 🤣 Guy shift abeg, I don't have your time today. This is my first and last reply to you on this topic. Find someone else to argue with.

the way some of you come here on social media to feel like elon musk eehn🤣🤣🤣 see this one is ode ooo
“everytime you jump on my mentions UNINVITED;”
“so desperate for my attention and validation”
yen yen yen yan yan yan

anytime you drop mumu quote, always tag people or invite that should respond to your post.

walai guy you be real mumu🤣…sometimes i suppose that some people here are over 30’s and 40’s but comments like this make me feel 90% of monikers here are u-17…..like i dont understand ooo, i disagree with your quote you start dey foam for mouth that im looking for your attention and validation 🤣🤣.
Abeg make a list of people you have validated here and how it has gone a long way to help there career or put money in their account🤣🤣🤣
you be OSIMHEN,MIKEL OBI,JAY JAY OKOCHA that i should be looking for your validation and attention?
like i dont get why i should be looking for those cheap mumu things from you…who you help….if you drop any quote and i scroll pass nairaland and the quote doesn’t sink down well with me, oga if your moniker get tail i go drag you out…and same i expect for myself…if i drop an analysis that seems controversial i expect people to quote me….you be tozzo if you feel your response to me is giving me validation/attention

Kog45:
wait oh,did you praise any player for doing the same for Osimhen and others cuz we have seen players wrestling and doing a lot of stuffs in assisting for goals

bros name the player, and tell us the tournament the player played in…and also tell us where we got to at that tournament…..so far so good the strike force(point men) we took to afcon 2021 was a whack one…
Awoniyi 1goal no impact(we jah for round 16)
Sadiq 1goal no impact(we jah for round 16)
if osimhen had ended afcon 2023 that way na me go personally drag am for here that he was terrible……oga as a striker you should be hugely/actively/passively responsible for our success in a tournament.
Osimhen was 90% responsible for our Afcon second place finish…his only major undoing was that he didn’t directly score goals….
tell us which SE striker that put in same number/statistics/workrate Osimhen gave at the last afcon that we blamed hugely

jihday:
pointing out fact is defending? You basically said he ghosted the Afcon and they pointed out how he was vital to our final run but you call it defending, continue with your agenda

i wonder why he is feeling serious chest pain if i counter his fact…mumu is telling me that his response to me is a validation and an attention to me…SMH🤦🏼😂

DeloitteNG:
Imagine say Dessers lead our line for Afcon you think say we for smell finals
Abi nor be the same Dessers we see against Mali
Dessers, sadiq, Onuachu and Awoniyi na the same WhatsApp group them dey
We should move away from these people

Na you dey compare the two of them, not me. I never compared them because I know that Osimhen is clearly ahead of him in the pecking order. Don't try to deviate from the topic of discourse.


Kog45 was the one who mentioned that Osimhen receives lots of criticisms from Nigerian fans. I disagreed and gave my reasons. The question is, do you agree or not? You're free to also give your reasons.