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DeloitteNG:
Imagine say Dessers lead our line for Afcon you think say we for smell finals
Abi nor be the same Dessers we see against Mali
Dessers, sadiq, Onuachu and Awoniyi na the same WhatsApp group them dey
We should move away from these people

aicon4s:
You are right bro. Boniface too don join that Whatsapp group.

Amedino99:
no let nairaland bubble deceive you. person wey dey chop slander for Twitter and Facebook Wella. Better expand your horizon no let nairaland deceive you. I don see person wey call am oh semen as slander name.

jihday:
pointing out fact is defending? You basically said he ghosted the Afcon and they pointed out how he was vital to our final run but you call it defending, continue with your agenda

COOL10:
Now compare that to the multitude of fans who defended him against those so called criticisms. That's my point. There will always be exceptions but what matters is the majority. Majority always carries the vote. Osimhen is the Super Eagles' favourite child for a reason.

COOL10:
Na usual banter be that now 😄. I'm not in support of it but what will you now say about those that pointed out Ighalo's big buttocks and said that it's because of the big buttocks that he missed that chance at the World Cup? What will you say about those that threatened to kill his wife and children?


What will you say about those who said that Okocha should have been the one to impregnate Iwobi's mother so that Iwobi would have at least been half as good as Okocha?


What will you say about those who till now love to call Maduka Okoye "beauty queen wey no get sense", just because dem worwor no be small and they know that their girlfriends would leave them immediately if Maduka should as much as wink at them?


Like I said earlier, Osimhen hasn't received one quarter of the criticisms/insults that other Nigerian players have received. At least the insult "oh semen" still has some sort of attribution to masculinity.

daveP:
I think it is balanced. The love-hate numbers of VO.

Since the Chelsea face front, i noticed a new niche of "haterz"
They don't even want to recognize his exploits and use every opportunity to talk down and mock him.


However, some facts remains and few can have non-banter dialogue when it comes to this matter, from both sides.

He definitely needs to improve on that AFCON performance no doubt. But he was one key factor of reaching that final. Everyone knows if he didn't waste chance we will probably win that cup. But that should not be used to wash him like ive been seeing lately. People even criticize Boniface and Iwobi well. Few defenders on their part.


Better days ahead.

Truidstarr:
😂😂😂😂 Brother!!! E be like say u new for here. Ask them ooo. I was the first and only person who clamored for Dessers even before the 2018 World Cup. Cause I knew Ighalo was not it at that time. When it comes to Dessers you just dey start for the matter.

Kog45:
Pls can you gives us minutes played stats of our strikers in eagles.

COOL10:
My point is simple. When a player underperforms, despite your love for that player, be mature enough to put your sentiments aside and criticize that player for performing poorly.


The thing is that, as Nigerians, we don't like telling ourselves the truth. Osimhen had a terrible AFCON outing. An African Player of the Year scoring just one goal in the entire tournament and missing the most chances (13) is a woeful performance.


Most Nigerians will argue with you and tell you to forget about that because he knows how to mark and put pressure on defenders, forgetting that the number one goal of a striker is to put the ball in the back of the net. Osimhen didn't win the African Player of the Year award by putting pressure on defenders, he won it because of the goals he scored and trophy he won with Napoli.


Imagine what would have happened if the likes of Lookman and Ekong didn't step up at the AFCON. We won't even have gotten out of the group stage.

minfelix:
bros na lie….dont use the word terrible for Osimhen when analyzing his afcon numbers…
Nig 1- 1 EQG (osimhen scores)
Nig 1-0 CIV (Ekong scored the penalty, osimhen was fouled on an almost 1 on 1 situation vs CIV keeper)
Nig 1- 0 GNB(Simon wing cross out, osimhen was right closely behind the defender that scored the own goal)
Nig 2-0 Cam(Lookman 2goals..osimhen wrestling down a defender to give an on running free lookman for the opening goal)
Nig 1-0 Ang (scored a sweet header against angola, but canceled)
NiG 1-1 SA (Ekong scored, osimhen won us a penalty facing the goalkeeper after been brought down in the 18yard box, scored another beautiful goal that was disallowed due to alhassan fouling SA player before the goal)
It was only in the final and maybe against GNB that osimhen did not make an assist or score a goal.
Dont tag his afcon numbers as terrible…i no gree..na big lie.
Look for another match to tag osimhen as terrible not afcon where he contributed 90% to our second place finish

COOL10:
Here are the minutes played of the players I mentioned:

Awoniyi: 426 minutes

Saqiq: 309 minutes

Onuachu: 797 minutes

Boniface: 591 minutes

Dessers: 322 minutes


You can see that even by minutes played, Cyriel Dessers has a better goal scoring record in the Super Eagles than those particular players.

TheSuperNerd:
Cool10 obviously thinks na him don fight for Dessers pass for here not knowing it all began with you. He doesn't know of your #InviteCyrielDessers Campaign running then in the days of Rohr.

I even named you president of the Cyriel Dessers club.😂😂😂

Anyway, his Dessers argument is valid coz Boniface we keep inviting haven't scored once in 11 caps.

COOL10:
I've barely even said much about Osimhen yet about three people have already come out to defend him, yet they claim that Osimhen has a lot of critics.


I know more defenders will come. . They keep proving my points every single time. I'm loving it

COOL10:
*Sighs*

Supernerd, I don't know why you and Truidstar are trying to turn this into a tug of war between Truidstar and I. He said that Dessers hasn't been good for the Super Eagles and then I drew his attention to an updated list of a post I made months ago.


How you people have turned it into a tug of war is what I don't understand. If Truidstar should check his old account, he's bound to see where I liked and even shared his posts about Dessers.


Una too like wahala sha. 😄

jihday:
pointing out fact is defending? You basically said he ghosted the Afcon and they pointed out how he was vital to our final run but you call it defending, continue with your agenda

TheSuperNerd:
Well answered. To be honest, Boniface's Zero goals in 11 caps is impossible to defend anymore. At this point, any whisper of Dessers from this angle is valid.

But then stretching this to Osimhen is another matter.

COOL10:
I didn't stretch anything to Osimhen. Go through all my posts and you'll see that I never made any comparison between both players. You're the one who'ss trying to see something that isn't there.


Kog45 was the one who brought up Osimhen with regards to criticisms. I replied him and we were having a respectful conversation until the mini guy jumped into my mentions as usual and involved himself in a conversation that I was having with someone else.


I know it's a public forum where anyone can quote anyone anyhow they like, but it's happened many times too often and if I'm being honest, it extremely irritating. Must he mention me?

COOL10:
Which fact exactly? The fact that he scored just one goal at the last AFCON? The fact that he missed the most chances at the last AFCON? The last time I checked, Osimhen missed about 13 chances at the last AFCON. He probably also scored the most offside goals(haven't checked) because he just couldn't keep himself onside as usual.

Rules are changed for certain players


The thing with you people is that you're trying to redefine the GENERAL definition of a Striker/Centre Forward.


Osimhen didn't win African Player of the Year by marking players, winning penalties or creating space for other players. He won it because of the goals, assists and trophy he won with Napoli.


I expect better from him and that's why I'm calling out his flaws, but it seems like people like you who act like you love him more than anyone else are hell-bent on preventing him from improving. Since you want to talk about agendas, then perhaps that's your own agenda. 🤷🏽‍♂️

TheSuperNerd:
Cool10 obviously thinks na him don fight for Dessers pass for here not knowing it all began with you. He doesn't know of your #InviteCyrielDessers Campaign running then in the days of Rohr.

I even named you president of the Cyriel Dessers club.😂😂😂

Anyway, his Dessers argument is valid coz Boniface we keep inviting haven't scored once in 11 caps.

TheSuperNerd:
The way you were sounding and coming at Truidstarr is the reason why he even had to take a step back and smile reminding you that you and him are actually on the same side on Dessers' invite.

That is all. I only pointed out the timeline of events.

Anyway, I commend your consistency in everything Dessers. You are actually a reason i don't report on him anymore because I know Cool10 got it covered.

COOL10:
Now this is a logical take that I respect. Intelligent and precise.


I'm against all forms of insults. Perhaps a little banter here and there, but I'm all about keeping it civil when it comes to criticizing a player. If you've noticed, I've never used a rude word against him since I started talking about him. I can't say the same for his supporters though.


Osimhen's passion and his intense application of that passion are what separates him from the rest. I'm not doubting that.


My point is if you're hired to do a job, then do your damn job. He does it most of the time but he didn't do it at the last AFCON. Why's that so hard for people to accept? Oh, because it's Osimhen, then exceptions should be made abi. Would they have said the same if Ighalo or Onuachu or Sadiq had scored just one goal at the AFCON? Of course not. This is how people create gods out of men and it's wrong.


You said that everyone knows that if Osimhen hadn't missed those chances, we would have won the AFCON. Bro, have you seen this thread? You and I are probably the only ones here who believe that. To them, Osimhen did no wrong at the AFCON.

TheSuperNerd:
Okay, fine.

But I actually said it with Minfelix's reply to your Osimhen mention in mind.

Also, you and Minfelix get beef before? Lol

COOL10:
Thanks a lot for the commendation, but please don't stop talking about Dessers' goals/assists because of me. This Balablu Bulaba regime keeps me so busy that I barely even have enough time for myself, let alone to consistently talk about any football player.

DeloitteNG:
Boniface will come through
I believe he will