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Michael547:
So show us where the bible says that some spirits are in hell🤣

GothamCities:
The souls under the altar in Revelation 6:9, are they still in their clay bodies?

Michael547:
Why Did God say that Abel's blood was crying to him?
Was Abel's blood seperate from the soul?

GothamCities:
Why should I answer this question? How is Abel's blood related to what we're discussing?

GothamCities:
I should still show you what I've already shown you? Something is definitely wrong with you.

Michael547:
Oga point out where you showed me spirits in hell

Michael547:
Are you saying Abel's blood is separate from his soul?

Michael547:
Are you saying Abel's blood is separate from his soul?

MaxInDHouse:
Repent because of your eternity!

Michael547:
🤣🤣🤣.....don't mind him. He cannot answer that question because of his idea of what the soul is.

Michael547:
Don't mind him...he is confused. He does not know that man with his body is a soul that is different from spirit. That is where his confusion is.

GothamCities:
Confused people.

Man with his body is a soul? Lol. Confused people.

Man is actually a soul that inhabits a body. The body can be terrestrial or celestial depending on the realm the man is.

Michael547:
Does Genesis 2:7 say that soul was put inside Adam's body?

NNTR:
Ezekiel 18:20a
The soul that sinneth, it shall die:...

After moulding the body of man, read Genesis 2:7 to see that it was after when God breathed into the man's nostrils, the breath of life, also known as ruach or spirit, that man became a living soul.

What you won't ever be able unwriggle from nor understand, is that, man is tripartite, and hence is distinct from all the rest of creation, including the animals, just like the - snakes, snails, hares, turtles, bats, fishes etc you mentioned, in that, it is only man who is made in the image of the Godhead and according to likeness of the Godhead

Also, it is the soul of man/woman, that will give an account of him/herself to God. It is not the animals, just like the - snakes, snails, hares, turtles, bats, fishes etc you mentioned, that will give an account of him/herself to God because it was not animals who committed sin from eating of the forbidden fruit.

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NNTR:
The soul (i.e. you) is created out, that which is not visible.

The soul part that you are, is unable to be physically touched or felt. It has a physical presence proxy by the flesh or body. The soul, meaning in essence, you, came from thing(s) not seen.

The body, your flesh, is just a dirt suit made up of dust, hence why when the spirit, the ruach aka wind, aka life-force, aka breath of God expires in you, you die, you slump and drop dead, then at the end, your body or flesh returns back to earth

You are soul, you are the soul. You, the soul, was made out of things not seen with the naked eyes. Your dirt suit, the body or flesh is not you, but your soul, is you, you are soul.

It is you, your soul, that will give account of yourself on Judgment Day

After death, meaning after transiting from the land of the living, you, meaning you the soul, go to a waiting area, similarly to the lounge seating areas in airport. You stay there, awaiting Judgment Day, then upon giving a verdict, you get to board a flight to an appropriate destination

You're soul. The soul is you, and vice versa, meaning what you are, is soul, you are the soul.

Essentially, you are a soul, housed in a body made up from dust and made animated with a life-force, which is ruach aka spirit aka pneuma or also known as, the breath of God. So, in short, your beingness, you, are a soul

Sheol, is the Hebrew word for grave. Physically its wherever the body is buried et cetera, metaphysically speaking, it has two sections, where souls are temporarily 'interned'

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NNTR:

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Michael547 & GothamCities beloveds, you're both right in youse own perspective

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MaxInDHouse:
Lailai!
Both can't be right stop lying to yourself!

NNTR:
Operative keywords used was depending the 6 or 9 perspective they are looking at it from
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MaxInDHouse:
So Jesus and Pharisees were also looking at matters from the 6 and 9 position shey?

NNTR:
Yes, Jesus and Pharisees absolutely were also looking at matters from the 6 and 9 position

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NNTR:

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Michael547 beloved & GothamCities beloved, youse are both right depending on the perspective youse are looking from

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Michael547:
You funny oo....So does Genesis 2:7 say that man without his body became a living soul?

Kasalagoburst:
1. Circa the years before Christ came: Hebrews 11:1-2 says the Faith (in the context of the book) is both prospective and retrospective; Prospective because it looked forward in hope for somethings or someone; Retrospective because the object hoped for was actualized and though one having not seen it, is convicted about it. That hope was Christ. The conviction of those who prospected and those ex post facto were the same.

So many believed Christ, knew Christ, even before he came (ask Prophet Isaiah). As far back as Seth, the son of Adam, his genealogy is translated (figuratively) as: God will come down to earth to make disciples but he will be pierced- they were the ones referred to as the “Sons of God”- showing us many believed in the seed that would bruise the head of the serpent.

2. Those in the prospective class: Hebrew 11:40 says, God has planned something better for us, so that together with us they would be made perfect.

What does this mean? The word “perfect” is translated from a word called “Telos”, implying that we and those before Christ came will reach the same goal, limit, end, result etc.

When Christ was glorified, it is recorded in Matthew 27:52, that many bodies of the saints resurrected from the dead. Psalms 24 gives us reason to believe that these saints accompanied Christ through the everlasting gates.

So for us who have known Christ through the believing of the gospels, we will reach where they have reached.

Cc: Jokerman

NNTR:
Would come across as funny to you
Read what immediately follows below

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Michael547:
Oga where was the man who became a living soul made from?

NNTR:
Scroll up to circa 10 posts above to see and re-read where posted that:

'The soul (i.e. you) is created out, that which is not visible.

The soul part that you are, is unable to be physically touched or felt.
It has a physical presence proxy by the flesh or body. The soul, meaning in essence, you, came from thing(s) not seen.'
- Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 on Saturday 07 2024 by NNTR: 7:08pm

Michael547 beloved, you're out of your depth, and prolly couldn’t figure any of the subject matter out, so give a rest please, as this is my last response to you on this thread

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NNTR:
The Jews, (i.e. king Solomon, the Israelites) did not know at all nor understand that awareness and consciousness exists in the realm of the dead. It was, Jesus, through the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, that He used it, to reveal these invaluable insights to us

'Jesus parable was not a true life story', does not take away nor diminish the truths, that, awareness and consciousness exists in Sheol after one crosses over.

Please share an inexhaustible list what other lessons apart from torment in Hades, was the parable used to reveal?
(i.e. other than torment, what is the reason(s) for Jesus to tell the rich man and Lazarus parable)

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Religion / Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by NNTR: 3:17am On Nov 12, 2023

NNTR:
I didnt assume. From personal experience I know, that on this side of eternity, meaning while in the land of the living, with the help of my brain, I am aware of experiencing both physical and mental pain.

Now watch this, in the spiritual realm, in the realm of incorporeality, a different mechanism, exclusive to a use of gray matter, is used to register pain or experience delight

So you want to play this sort of card, no problem, two can play the game. Meet me below

I am sure this is not a science class

On the contrary, it is very necessary. Necessary because the conversation goes into a realm operating beyond the constraints or limit of a three dimension

While you focused on defining what fibromyalgia alone is, what you really was asked, is, whats the correlation between emotional pain and fibromyalgia?

Psalm 63:1
'A Psalm of David, when he was in the wilderness of Judah.
O God, thou art my God; early will I seek thee:
my soul thirsteth for thee, my flesh longeth for thee in a dry and thirsty land, where no water is;'

Hmmm at Psalm 63:1 too

Do you see the parallelism with the rich man, asking for a dip of the tip of Lazarus finger in water to cool his tongue for him though with Psalm 63:1? The point here, is that, without physical bodies, without physical organs, even without a brain, we are capable of having semblance of sensations, be aware of things, as it were, using other mechanisms while existing or operating in a different dimension

You didnt asking a hard hitting question at all. Try my question below here for effect

Is the soul capable of feeling pain or does the soul feel pain?

Yes, of course, even without a body, (i.e. meaning beyond a 3 dimensional setting or set up) the soul, incomparably, is capable of experiencing other-dimensionally more painful pain

You're taking great pains in believing its a bit flawed. Even if a bit flawed, what of the bigger picture, thats not flawed

Thanks for confirming my point that emotional pain, is less accessible to medicine treatment.

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Re: How Will We Feel Pain In Hell. by NNTR: 2:40am On Jun 15, 2022

NNTR:
Kasalagoburst beloved, as you see conversed with Acehart offline, the information you presented, was too much to be grasped by your looking & reading audience

Yes, of course, it was after GOD breathed into Adam's nostril with part of His Spirit (i.e. ruach, life-force, consciousness, breath of life, living breath) that Adam became a living soul.

Now, it is with the Spirit that is from GOD, that the soul becomes conscious on earth. When one kpais, the body that is made & came from earth will return to the earth (i.e. dust you are, dust you return to, simply because the life of the flesh is in the blood.).

The body relinquishes the Spirit for it, to return back to its Owner, (i.e. simply because the life of the soul, on this side of eternity, is in the ruach) and so, equally the body is released of the soul, for the soul to head on to, a lounging area place, to await a destination, to go end up, at one or another place (i.e. the final destination aspect all happens after judgment)

No need to panic, no need to be alarmed, as, the opportunity will be given for you to acknowledge that you believe in JESUS CHRIST. If you do and accept Him as Lord & Saviour, then you'll be saved from eternal damnation. If not, then YOYO.

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Kasalagoburst:
Thank you sir.

Job 19:25-27 KJV. For I know that my redeemer liveth, And that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, Yet in my flesh shall I see God: Whom I shall see for myself, And mine eyes shall behold, and not another; Though my reins be consumed within me.

One thing is clear from Monsieur Job: This flesh shall die, and our (another) flesh of ours will see God. Yet he spoke of his “reins”. I wish I could paraphrase what he has stated clearly; His reins, his being, is his inward parts - his soul. “Reins” is a plural expression in singular terms. Whatever makes up the reins, David and Jeremiah says of it that it is the reins that Jehovah God will try on the Day of Judgment.

Michael547:
If you say that the 'reins' in Job 19:27 is Jobs soul with another flesh, did Job not tell you that his 'reins' can be consumed too as shown below?

King James Bible
Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.

So can the soul be consumed or die just like the flesh according to Job? Yes or no?

Kasalagoburst:
Thank you sir for your question. I would like you to spend time studying the scriptures, diligently and rightly. There are resources online that help one in the process of understanding the scriptures, and many versions apart from the KJV proffer proper grammar or translations of the original writings.

In so doing, you will come to know by comprehension that your question is invalid and has no merit.

Kasalagoburst:
Thank you sir.

Kasalagoburst:
Job 19:25-27 KJV.
For I know that my redeemer liveth,
And that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
And though after my skin worms destroy this body,
Yet in my flesh shall I see God:
Whom I shall see for myself,
And mine eyes shall behold, and not another;
Though my reins be consumed within me.

One thing is clear from Monsieur Job:
This flesh shall die, and our (another) flesh of ours will see God.

Yet he spoke of his “reins”. I wish I could paraphrase what he has stated clearly; His reins, his being, is his inward parts - his soul. “Reins” is a plural expression in singular terms. Whatever makes up the reins, David and Jeremiah says of it that it is the reins that Jehovah God will try on the Day of Judgment.