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Lukuluku69:
Isaiah 1:1-10 (KJV) The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.
Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.
Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.
Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.
And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city.
Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.
Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.

Prophet Isaiah was one the major Prophet of Israel. He prophesied for both the Judean Kingdom as well as the breakaway Northern Kingdom of Israel comprising the 10 breakaway Tribes just after the Death of King Solomon.

Reading thru his prophecies, he detailed the conditions of the Israelites Nation presently as well as lay the future outlook for them.

According to the words he gave, the Israel Nation is that of Children nurtured by God Himself but have continually rebelled. Even Animals know their owners Crib much less a people given to repeated Messengers and Warner haven lived amongst them. For their rebellion, they were punished repeatedly. Wars, famine, exile etc were their lots.

Sometimes, they repent and after a while, they backslide.

So. When you go thru Isaiah from Chapter One to the last, you will see a clear cut theme of a Prophet Lamentations about his Nations woes, mostly self induced ones and God's vows of Punishment and ultimately the restoration of their lost glory.

I would have love to go thru them one after the other but it is the same story, but ultimately, God abandoned them!

God abandoned them and this abandonment warnings were a recurring theme all thru the Bible but many a Bible reader never pay much attention to it because the Jewish Doctors have doctored their Records so much so that they alone understand it. Unfortunately, the Christians inherited a doctored version of the Jewish story and believed it to be the Truth.

MightySparrow:
Good morning brethren. Please are there clear cut prophecies about the rise of Islam? Going true the prophecies of Daniel and Revelations, it doesn't look like Islam is ever implied.

Contributions please.

EMILO2STAY:
you are not making sense. there was no nation called arab muslims in 334 bc when the kingdom of persia lost power. the arabs united under mohammeds islamic faith which he got from catholic priests anyway 600 yrs after the christian faith and over 1300 years after the persian kingdom fell from power .the fact that they lost their culture or even faith does not mean that they lost power to islam. world power was already with rome at that time and they could not conquer most places without the permission of the pope. yes! the muslim conquistadors needed a papal bull to invade a place and without that they could not do nothing. this goes to show they do not even have power of their own.

alexander vanquished the persians from world domination and declared himself king of persia and greece.and ruled over the provinces of the fallen persian empire that is what the book of daniel was talking about.

daniel 2:44 is referring to the ten kingdom that broke out of the fourth kingdom which is rome. these kingdoms are present now . and the fourth kingdom is the last kingdom on the earth before christ himself sets up a kingdom by his own hands ,not by the hands of muslims.

it is ridiculous to see you trying to prove islamic teachings with the bible you do not believe. and also trying to force the application of a prophecy from the bible to islam when it is clear to even the blind that its not.

EMILO2STAY:
are you seriously trying to use the bible prophecy for a muslim fulfilment? like seriously what is wrong you muslims? you have your Qur'an a book that you kill if a person mess with it yet you erroneously cling to the bible prophecy to claim it applies to muslim arabs common !! be reasonable!! no wonder you people behave the way you behave.



the persian capital and seat of power was in babylonia and alexander the great took over their seat of power when he defeated darius 3 in the battle of gaugamela in 334' the historical records are there for any to see including you.

https://www.history.com/news/alexander-the-great-defeat-persian-empire

when the arabs invaded greece, greece was fallen from world power. when the arab muslims invaded constantinople rome was fallen from world power. rome fell in 476 ad, as at that time when rome fell there was no islam. the emperor of rome left power to the pope. this was when the popes contolled most of the european nations that was once part of roman empire. so mr arab muslims did not conquer rome nor greece nor persian that was in power before all these kingdoms.


I will educate you a little in world history and islam; the vatican wanted jerusalem as a holy site, so he wanted to have it without directly engaging in the battle for jerusalem.
these qas when they saw an untapped man power in the arabs. so they deviced a plan to form a new religion for the arabs to unit them under one umbrella. that religeion was islam. so they used "waraqa" a cousine of mohammeds wife to tell him he would be a prophet of god. waraqa and mohammeds wife were christian roman catholics. a fact you can verify now now!'

when the religion of islam grew over the years , with catholic priests pulling the strings. the muslim arabs were sent to invade many nations who where not subject to the pope these nations included north africa, because the donatist in north africa denied and reject the sovrienity of the pope and also they where sent to invades jerusalem and capture it for the pope. because of this when ever the arab muslims qant ot invade a particular nation, they take permission from the pope who issues them a papal bull granting them permission. when they succeeded, they refused to hand over the holy land to the pope, even calling the pope an infidel. the pope heard pf tgis and realised that they have created a monster who have turned agaisnt them and these is the reason for the crusades between the catholic knight templers and the arab muslims in jersulam. at the end an agreement was struck to allow muslims dwell in the captured areas of the land and also allow the vatican occupy the other side captured by the crusaders.

now you know a little of you religion


daniel 2;7 talks about an image. and the imterpretation of it is in the bible. but the fact of the matter is that you and your muslim religion have no business with it. face your Qur'an and find to interpret the prophecies in there, and leave the bible which you claim is corrupt and tainted alone. it is appalling to find you trying to use biblical prophecy for a muslims interpretation and fulfilment. ridiculous!!!

Lukuluku69:
You are a Dunce. Grade A.

Daniel was a Jew. How can he worship the Christian Triune Gods of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit? Do Jews worship Three Gods in One and One in Three?

Yes, Prophet Muhammad confirmed the Prophecy of Daniel when he foretold tyhe Triumph of Muslims over Persia, Byzantine and Roman Empires.

EMILO2STAY:
like I said before, there is nothing in daniel 7 about the rise of islam. I cant go back to start reading alot of things. just right now give the chapters and verses that you claim talks about yhe rise of islam in the book of daniel and let me show you that you are wrong.

EMILO2STAY:
like I said before, there is nothing in daniel 7 about the rise of islam. I cant go back to start reading alot of things. just right now give the chapters and verses that you claim talks about yhe rise of islam in the book of daniel and let me show you that you are wrong.

Mysteriousworld:
Have you gotten an answer, or should I?
I just realized the bible spoke alot about Islam, from Daniel to Isaiah Jeremiah and Revelation... Wow, yes the bible does warn about Islam.

Mysteriousworld:
I used to think it was Rome .. but it's Islam

EMILO2STAY:
wrong, Mr man. The fourth kingdom is historically and numerically Rome. Not Islam. Medo Persia conquered Babylon and became world power after which Greece through Alexander conquered Persia. The Rome the kingdom of iron conquered Greece and became world power this is historically accurate . When Greece fell, there was no Islam. Islam came 600 years after Christianity.

The popes created Islam to capture Jerusalem but they refused giving it BK to him hence the crusades which lasted centuries even up till now. The Muslims could not do much unless the power in Rome which has metamorphosed to a religious power grants them papal bull or permission. So Islam on its own has no power at all except the one granted them by the popes of Rome. Rome is the sit of power even till this day and will continue until Jesus comes.

Plus the antichrist who you think is coming in the future is already here and in the person of the popes.


So you are just too wrong , go study the book of Daniel and History together.

Mysteriousworld:
I'm busy studying and gathering knowledge, I'm coming back in few days to burst out.
The prophecies now make more sense reading from the perspective of Islam and not Rome.
The western world has so brainwashed us to see history from her side, while the bible centers on the middle East...not Europe.
Pls permit me to keep enjoying my research, before I post.
Even the whole book of Daniel is making more sense to me now, from Daniel 8 to 11/12.
The Al Mahdi, is the Antichrist, and Muslims will soon sweep this earth, killing billions of people, people will worship the al Mahdi even in the Vatican, and the USA.

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Lukuluku69:
You are starring at it. You have read it over more than a hundred times yet you disbelieved in it fulfillment.

Like the Americans, when confronted with a glaring TRUTH he/she will blurt out " Unbelievable/Are you kidding me?

The Vision of Daniel Chapter 2/7 is enough for any Bible student armed with a grounded history of the World (Even Elementary knowledge of it) to accept that Islam is the Real Deal.

Daniel 7 should clear all your doubts but rather some of you dig in and deny. A lot in the Western World are coming to Islam while reading and searching stuff in the Bible.

I can show you the Fulfillment of Daniel 7 in Islam. You can feel and see it fulfillment but be ready to unlearn what you have learned before and be open to new learning based on what you can verify.

As for Revelation, the Writer was only mirroring Daniel with his own preconceived notions and interpretation.

MightySparrow:
Thanks for your response but you have not really pin point any aspects pointing to Mohammed and Islam. You will do well to answer the question.

MightySparrow:
You have not answered the question. But if you think you have, let us examine the passage.
1. Jesus came in His Father's name. He was not accepted.
2. Mohammed came in his own name ( self called, self sent prophet).
3. Even then, he was not accepted by Jews.
4. The verse says, ' if someone comes n his own name.'
This is conditional statement not a prophecy.
5. I think you qouted wrongly.


Please give unambiguous bible references.
Thanks

Queenttoast01:
Having known and seen the truma and pain caused by the Islamic Religion through hacking & burning their fellow human being(s) to death as response to defend their Prophet Mohammed, would you still continue to be a member or join them where the following are not guaranteed;

a) Peace is not guaranteed
b) You must kill your fellow humans to defend your prophet
c) Eternal life is not guaranteed- even your Prophet said he doesn't know where he is going afterlife.

Think about this and give your life to Jesus Christ today where your peace and eternal life is guaranteed!

MightySparrow:
This is even filled with a lot of ambiguities because some scholars are saying Mohammed has nothing to do with Ishmael. His disciples are trying to foist the tribe and Ishmael on him

MaxInDHouse:
So talk about yourself and what you think is Christianity don't speak for others!

EMILO2STAY:
lol learner

Padipadi:
Jesus laid down foundation to know the truth and lie. Jesus thought people to pray to Allah in His name. Mr poisoned mutton wey cut his aorta came through another means. See original, see counterfeit.

Mysteriousworld:
The problem is that your story is coming from the quran, that's all,. Lol...
We're talking real life history here.

Mysteriousworld:
Na so, everyday we get knowledge, we don't have the arrival mentality
That's one of the reasons why I love pastor Adeboye, very humble and never scared to say he made a mistake,. Even though he has fought the good fight, he has finished the race and he has kept the faith.
Even Apostle Paul that many regard as the best of the apostles said he was the least.loo you are lost, adeboye is a false pastor. Yet he is your idol. Bro you are still lost and far from the truth.
It's well with us by God's grace.

Mysteriousworld:
Na so, everyday we get knowledge, we don't have the arrival mentality
That's one of the reasons why I love pastor Adeboye, very humble and never scared to say he made a mistake,. Even though he has fought the good fight, he has finished the race and he has kept the faith.
Even Apostle Paul that many regard as the best of the apostles said he was the
It's well with us by God's grace.

EMILO2STAY:
lol you are lost, adeboye is a false pastor. Yet he is your idol. Bro you are still lost and far from the truth.

Padipadi:
There's no problem here. You do anyhow you receive nukes. Jesus is the truth and the way, not janjaweèds from macca. Argue with ya keyboard, you won't get any virgins

Padipadi:
You're a janjaweèd acting like an atheist. Ya secrets are opened.

MaxInDHouse:
What do you know about Christianity according to the Bible not what we see today?

Mysteriousworld:
The Quran is full of fake stories ...
There a saying, without lies, the Quran dies...
Allah waited 600uears to send Mohammed. I hope you know the Catholics created Islam

Padipadi:
Wetin logically fit people know about Christianity as per wetin we see today be say it's the way of life. The religion that reaches peace, common sense, godliness, equity and moral uprightness.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you think those that knows the way of life should pick up weapons to kill one another due to racial or political differences?

Padipadi:
It depends on the context that made you raise ya weapon. If it's for self defense, raise am well.

MaxInDHouse:
So Jesus was wrong by telling his disciples to run away {Matthew 10:23} and never raise a weapons in defense? Matthew 26:52